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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Chosen Daughter on June 21, 2020, 10:22:39 pm
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Tom Petty's family says it sent cease-and-desist letter to Trump after Tulsa rally featured 'I Won't Back Down'
Hannah Yasharoff
USA TODAY
Tom Petty's family says they sent a cease-and-desist notice to President Donald Trump's reelection campaign after the late musician's song "I Won't Back Down" was used during the president's Tulsa rally.
In a statement on Twitter, Petty's family says the song was used without permission.
"Trump was in no way authorized to use this song to further a campaign that leaves too many Americans and common sense behind," reads a statement on Petty's Twitter account, signed by daughters Adria and Annakim along with his widow Dana Petty and ex-wife Jane Benyo.
"Both the late Tom Petty and his family firmly stand against racism and discrimination of any kind. Tom Petty would never want a song of his used for a campaign of hate. He liked to bring people together."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/06/21/trump-campaign-used-tom-pettys-song-without-permission-family-says/3232706001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/06/21/trump-campaign-used-tom-pettys-song-without-permission-family-says/3232706001/)
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Maybe the Devil Went down to Georgia would be more appropriate.
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Who gives a flaming pile of crap? Just another gaggle of hate-filled leftie hags presuming to speak for the already dead and attempting to score political points with their Marxist masters. And apparently...
hags of a feather hate together.
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Who gives a flaming pile of crap? Just another gaggle of hate-filled leftie hags presuming to speak for the already dead and attempting to score political points with their Marxist masters. And apparently...
hags of a feather hate together.
Well, if Trump did not have permission frim whoever owns the song, then he was wrong to use it and could be liable for damages. So yes, while the family may be hated by Trump supporters, they could be right in this situation. Now I don't knw if they own the rights to Petty's music or not, but whoever does could have a case if no permission to use the song was granted.
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If the campaign paid the licensing fee, then the Petty estate has no grounds for complaint. In other words, they can STFU.
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If the campaign paid the licensing fee, then the Petty estate has no grounds for complaint. In other words, they can STFU.
Exactly.
At any rate....whether or not the campaign paid the licensing fee or not... it would seem that the family name fits them to a perfect "T". And petty is as petty does (which goes for those petty posters here).
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Well, if Trump did not have permission frim whoever owns the song, then he was wrong to use it and could be liable for damages. So yes, while the family may be hated by Trump supporters, they could be right in this situation. Now I don't knw if they own the rights to Petty's music or not, but whoever does could have a case if no permission to use the song was granted.
If we respected the original intent of the founders, that song wouldn't be owned by anyone by now. Our Constitution only allows creators the rights to hold copyright for a limited time. That used to be 28 years. It did not allow for that copyright to be transferable or an inherited property.
As the creator of the song is now deceased, claiming a copyright on a dead man's work should be unconstitutional, but we threw that out in the 1970s.
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If the campaign paid the licensing fee, then the Petty estate has no grounds for complaint. In other words, they can STFU.
Indeed. It's called "compulsory license."
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If the campaign paid the licensing fee, then the Petty estate has no grounds for complaint. In other words, they can STFU.
That's just it. Did the campaign pay for permission to use the song and if so, to whom? You're correct if the family does not own the rights to the music, they have no right to complain.
This is like last week's story about one of the Village People complaining about use of their song, YMCA. The guy did not own the music and Trump had an agreement with whoever does own it; so this guy can complain all he wants, but he cannot prevent Trump from using the song.
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Our republic is under assault by race hatred, riots and a communist insurrection, but let’s put that aside and talk about the campaign’s music selection. Jeez, talk about rearranging deck chairs.
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Well, if Trump did not have permission frim whoever owns the song, then he was wrong to use it and could be liable for damages. So yes, while the family may be hated by Trump supporters, they could be right in this situation. Now I don't knw if they own the rights to Petty's music or not, but whoever does could have a case if no permission to use the song was granted.
dont you think his lawyers have this covered? I mean, musicians have been bitching about republicans using their music at rallies for about four decades now. Jeez
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dont you think his lawyers have this covered? I mean, musicians have been bitching about republicans using their music at rallies for about four decades now. Jeez
I don't know which I why I asked.
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Our republic is under assault by race hatred, riots and a communist insurrection, but let’s put that aside and talk about the campaign’s music selection. Jeez, talk about rearranging deck chairs.
88devil @aligncare 888high58888
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Man, I miss Tom Petty. I hope he’s making really great music in heaven.
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Tom Petty's family says they sent a cease-and-desist notice to President Donald Trump's reelection campaign after the late musician's song "I Won't Back Down" was used during the president's Tulsa rally.
In a statement on Twitter, Petty's family says the song was used without permission.
@Chosen Daughter
Fine. Have them compile a list of radio stations and private citizens who have played that song without permission that they have sued,and then go forward from there.
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We've been through this before. Screw them. They should not have signed the ASCAP and BMI license contracts.
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Even a crappy editor,might ask the reporter, to ask the family:
"who owns the rights?"
"Family; we don't know, he never told us."
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Should have played this instead.
Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Don't Come Around Here No More (Official Music Video)
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JvF9vpqx8#)
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I'm sure the Trump campaign can find another song -- let Petty's family have their way. Who cares?
I'm sure Kid Rock would oblige him (he's a Trump fan)
"Born Free" would make an excellent Trump rally song!!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu3rsha1ZtI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu3rsha1ZtI#)
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Tom Petty's family says it sent cease-and-desist letter to Trump after Tulsa rally featured 'I Won't Back Down'
Hannah Yasharoff
USA TODAY
Tom Petty's family says they sent a cease-and-desist notice to President Donald Trump's reelection campaign after the late musician's song "I Won't Back Down" was used during the president's Tulsa rally.
In a statement on Twitter, Petty's family says the song was used without permission.
"Trump was in no way authorized to use this song to further a campaign that leaves too many Americans and common sense behind," reads a statement on Petty's Twitter account, signed by daughters Adria and Annakim along with his widow Dana Petty and ex-wife Jane Benyo.
"Both the late Tom Petty and his family firmly stand against racism and discrimination of any kind. Tom Petty would never want a song of his used for a campaign of hate. He liked to bring people together."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/06/21/trump-campaign-used-tom-pettys-song-without-permission-family-says/3232706001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/06/21/trump-campaign-used-tom-pettys-song-without-permission-family-says/3232706001/)
Well if the Petty family is against any campaign of hate I wonder what they think of yours?
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I'm sure the Trump campaign can find another song -- let Petty's family have their way. Who cares?
I'm sure Kid Rock would oblige him (he's a Trump fan)
"Born Free" would make an excellent Trump rally song!!
Great song, thank you for the turn-on. Loved the Caddy with the mounted firearms.
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Man, I miss Tom Petty. I hope he’s making really great music in heaven.
Too bad he went out, as a using addict.
Plenty with long term sobriety like Clapton,Ringo, Elton JOhn, Bonnie Raitt, Alice Cooper, others.
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Too bad he went out, as a using addict.
Plenty with long term sobriety like Clapton,Ringo, Elton JOhn, Bonnie Raitt, Alice Cooper, others.
@truth_seeker
Well,probably the truest words you will ever hear are "If it were easy to quit,no one would be an addict."
It really does grab people at the genetic level,and that's what makes it almost impossible to resist. If you have addicts in your family,do NOT drink alcohol or take narcotic drugs. Not even once. No matter how strong-willed you might think you are,your own compulsions are stronger.
On the other hand,if no one in your family has a history of addiction,"Party ON,Dude/Dudette!"
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@truth_seeker
Well,probably the truest words you will ever hear are "If it were easy to quit,no one would be an addict."
It really does grab people at the genetic level,and that's what makes it almost impossible to resist. If you have addicts in your family,do NOT drink alcohol or take narcotic drugs. Not even once. No matter how strong-willed you might think you are,your own compulsions are stronger.
On the other hand,if no one in your family has a history of addiction,"Party ON,Dude/Dudette!"
My maternal Grandfather was a functioning alcoholic. Only 4 children out of 7 (Including my mother) that did not have problems with the bottle. Half of my cousins have alcohol issues. I used to have more than 1 or 2 back in the day, but now, a sip of the chalice at Mass on Sundays and that is about it. Maybe 1 drink every 3-6 months, MAYBE. Entire years have gone by with out one. I won't stop someone else, figure it is their choice.
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Great song, thank you for the turn-on. Loved the Caddy with the mounted firearms.
888high58888
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@truth_seeker
Well,probably the truest words you will ever hear are "If it were easy to quit,no one would be an addict."
It really does grab people at the genetic level,and that's what makes it almost impossible to resist. If you have addicts in your family,do NOT drink alcohol or take narcotic drugs. Not even once. No matter how strong-willed you might think you are,your own compulsions are stronger.
On the other hand,if no one in your family has a history of addiction,"Party ON,Dude/Dudette!"
Genes absolutely have a lot to do with it. I get angry when people suggest that people can quit if they want to or had the will power. Unless you witness or experience addiction and how it destroys lives and tears your gut out watching a loved one struggle ... think again.
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@truth_seeker
Well,probably the truest words you will ever hear are "If it were easy to quit,no one would be an addict."
You'll get no argument from me that it is difficult to stop. I would prefer that Trump use music from Stevie Ray or somebody that got sober, etc.
Trump would be endorsing sobriety, which he practices.
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My maternal Grandfather was a functioning alcoholic. Only 4 children out of 7 (Including my mother) that did not have problems with the bottle. Half of my cousins have alcohol issues. I used to have more than 1 or 2 back in the day, but now, a sip of the chalice at Mass on Sundays and that is about it. Maybe 1 drink every 3-6 months, MAYBE. Entire years have gone by with out one. I won't stop someone else, figure it is their choice.
@verga
Same here,but I do confess to trying to convince teens whose parents I know are drunks to not drink. I tell them in plain blunt language with no sugar-coating,either.
Then I leave them alone. You can tell people anything,but you can't make them not do something they are determined to do.
The way I see it,you owe it to them as one human being to another to lay out their probably "life road" to them if they get loaded versus life as a sober person. How they live it is up to them,though.
I also tell them that after our little talk if they ever come to me looking for help,they are bleep out of luck. I can warn you,but it is not my job to be your babysitter.
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@verga
Same here,but I do confess to trying to convince teens whose parents I know are drunks to not drink. I tell them in plain blunt language with no sugar-coating,either.
Then I leave them alone. You can tell people anything,but you can't make them not do something they are determined to do.
The way I see it,you owe it to them as one human being to another to lay out their probably "life road" to them if they get loaded versus life as a sober person. How they live it is up to them,though.
I also tell them that after our little talk if they ever come to me looking for help,they are bleep out of luck. I can warn you,but it is not my job to be your babysitter.
I teach high school, if they ask I tell them, after that it is up to them. I have on more than one occasion been their one phone call from jail. I let the parents know and I post bail for minor infractions (Never DUI or DaD) and let them spend a couple of days at my place until everyone cools down. meet with them and the parents and 9/10 times all is good and they go home. I try to be a good example when their parents can't be. Some times it works and some times it takes a while to sink in. I know I was young and stupid nd figure they have every right to be once or twice.
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I teach high school, if they ask I tell them, after that it is up to them. I have on more than one occasion been their one phone call from jail. I let the parents know and I post bail for minor infractions (Never DUI or DaD) and let them spend a couple of days at my place until everyone cools down. meet with them and the parents and 9/10 times all is good and they go home. I try to be a good example when their parents can't be. Some times it works and some times it takes a while to sink in. I know I was young and stupid nd figure they have every right to be once or twice.
That's a tough group to teach. God bless you!
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Our republic is under assault by race hatred, riots and a communist insurrection, but let’s put that aside and talk about the campaign’s music selection. Jeez, talk about rearranging deck chairs.
888high58888
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Well if the Petty family is against any campaign of hate I wonder what they think of yours?
888mouth