One of the main reasons Donald Trump is losing is because of the number of lifelong Republicans who refuse to vote for him - #NeverTrumpers if you will. Right after Trump won Indiana and Cruz dropped out, Trump and his supporters were boasting that the #NeverTrump movement was insignificant and would soon fizzle out. Trump himself tweeted at the convention that #NeverTrump was dead......
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/08/19/trump-supporters-try-convince-nevertrump-get-board-insulting/
In fact, we regard insults from anyone who believes Trump would actually be a non-disaster as President to be a badge of honor.
Hypothetical:I don't understand where people get this idea they don't know what Trump is. He's been a lifelong liberal. He's on record praising Billzebubba as a great President, he's on record praising Hillary Clinton as secretary of State, he was a registered Democrat during Obama first term, he's on record against the first and second amendments, he's on record wanting to raise taxes, he's on record wanting to raise minimum wage, he's on record supporting the individual mandate of Obama care, and he started his campaign because of a phone call with the Clintons. I am 100% certain Trump is a lifelong liberal democrat with an R behind his name in this race acting out the crazy caricatures of what he thinks conservatives are (ie. a bigoted, racist, foulmouthed jerk) so that Hillary can win. We've been had.
You are trapped in a sinking ship. You only have one exit door, but only a slim chance of survival. Furthermore, you don’t like this door. Ugly paint, door knob is out of style, hinges creak, etc. Do you open the door and try to escape or do you sit there, seething at the door, mocking those people who use the door, just waiting for the water to drown you?
Real life:
Hey, I was kicked off of “the other bulletin board that rhymes with ‘creepers’” for daring to question Trump and his followers. And as I have mentioned on that board, I was for Walker, then Cruz. They are gone. So, I will do with this election what I did with the Romney and McCain elections …. I will pull the lever for the so-called “Republican”, walk around behind the school gymnasium, and vomit.
I don’t know what I’m going to get with Trump, but I damn well know what Hillary will bring. Let’s say there’s a 10 percent chance that Trump leads as a conservative…. That’s 10 percent more chance than Hillary.
Hypothetical:
You are trapped in a sinking ship. You only have one exit door, but only a slim chance of survival. Furthermore, you don’t like this door. Ugly paint, door knob is out of style, hinges creak, etc. Do you open the door and try to escape or do you sit there, seething at the door, mocking those people who use the door, just waiting for the water to drown you?
Real life:
Hey, I was kicked off of “the other bulletin board that rhymes with ‘creepers’” for daring to question Trump and his followers. And as I have mentioned on that board, I was for Walker, then Cruz. They are gone. So, I will do with this election what I did with the Romney and McCain elections …. I will pull the lever for the so-called “Republican”, walk around behind the school gymnasium, and vomit.
I don’t know what I’m going to get with Trump, but I damn well know what Hillary will bring. Let’s say there’s a 10 percent chance that Trump leads as a conservative…. That’s 10 percent more chance than Hillary.
Hell Yeah! And I will stay that way Even if it hairlips every cow in Texas before Trump loses.
I don't understand where people get this idea they don't know what Trump is. He's been a lifelong liberal. He's on record praising Billzebubba as a great President, he's on record praising Hillary Clinton as secretary of State, he was a registered Democrat during Obama first term, he's on record against the first and second amendments, he's on record wanting to raise taxes, he's on record wanting to raise minimum wage, he's on record supporting the individual mandate of Obama care, and he started his campaign because of a phone call with the Clintons. I am 100% certain Trump is a lifelong liberal democrat with an R behind his name in this race acting out the crazy caricatures of what he thinks conservatives are (ie. a bigoted, racist, foulmouthed jerk) so that Hillary can win. We've been had.
Hairlip?
(http://www.laterallinemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/giant_moustache.gif)
I'm on vacation and not following this garbage. But Leave Wingnut alone when he's on a roll!
I'm on vacation and not following this garbage. But Leave Wingnut alone when he's on a roll!
Couldn't find any hairlipped cows worth mentioning, but here's one that's sitting like a dog.
(http://i.imgur.com/9JXtwGt.jpg)
(Apparently it's a whole internet devoted to the phenomenon.)
Hypothetical:
You are trapped in a sinking ship. You only have one exit door, but only a slim chance of survival. Furthermore, you don’t like this door. Ugly paint, door knob is out of style, hinges creak, etc. Do you open the door and try to escape or do you sit there, seething at the door, mocking those people who use the door, just waiting for the water to drown you?
Just vote your values and your conscience and the rest will work itself out. If that means Trump, then you did fine by your conscience. If not, then let your conscience be your guide. Just don't be manipulated into thinking the choice is binary.
There are a lot of people who consider us NeverTrumpers to be just as fanatical as the Trumpanzies.
Someone not born in America might say that what we have in the current election is a group of fanatical fanatics talking about how bad the opposite fanatical fanatics are. Even though they both appear to be roughly the same thing.
I'm not sure that would be a correct interpretation, but I do know that I will never vote for that Orange skin, tiny-hands, neo-Nazi, fraud, even if Hillary does get elected because of it.
#NeverTrump forever!
There are a lot of people who consider us NeverTrumpers to be just as fanatical as the Trumpanzies.
Someone not born in America might say that what we have in the current election is a group of fanatical fanatics talking about how bad the opposite fanatical fanatics are. Even though they both appear to be roughly the same thing.
I'm not sure that would be a correct interpretation, but I do know that I will never vote for that Orange skin, tiny-hands, neo-Nazi, fraud, even if Hillary does get elected because of it.
#NeverTrump forever!
There are a lot of people who consider us NeverTrumpers to be just as fanatical as the Trumpanzies.
Someone not born in America might say that what we have in the current election is a group of fanatical fanatics talking about how bad the opposite fanatical fanatics are. Even though they both appear to be roughly the same thing.
I'm not sure that would be a correct interpretation, but I do know that I will never vote for that Orange skin, tiny-hands, neo-Nazi, fraud, even if Hillary does get elected because of it.
#NeverTrump forever!
Just vote your values and your conscience and the rest will work itself out. If that means Trump, then you did fine by your conscience. If not, then let your conscience be your guide. Just don't be manipulated into thinking the choice is binary.
I am hoping to be saved by a big strong Trumpster who will berate, browbeat, insult and threaten me and mine until I change my decision not to support Trump. Otherwise it will be the re-education camp for me so it will be for my own good don't you know.
<Just don't be manipulated into thinking the choice is binary.>
Hate to break this to everyone, but it is binary. In one way that stinks, but in another, thank God it's only binary. I don't want a European style choice of 37 different parties.
<Just don't be manipulated into thinking the choice is binary.>
Hate to break this to everyone, but it is binary. In one way that stinks, but in another, thank God it's only binary. I don't want a European style choice of 37 different parties.
You will get the same thing you did the other times you pulled the lever, you will lose your dinner and the Democrat will win the election. Thanks for playing.
Real life:
Hey, I was kicked off of “the other bulletin board that rhymes with ‘creepers’” for daring to question Trump and his followers. And as I have mentioned on that board, I was for Walker, then Cruz. They are gone. So, I will do with this election what I did with the Romney and McCain elections …. I will pull the lever for the so-called “Republican”, walk around behind the school gymnasium, and vomit.
I don’t know what I’m going to get with Trump, but I damn well know what Hillary will bring. Let’s say there’s a 10 percent chance that Trump leads as a conservative…. That’s 10 percent more chance than Hillary.
<Just don't be manipulated into thinking the choice is binary.>There aren't 37 choices, actually, aside from Republicrats and Democans, I counted 68 parties to choose from:
Hate to break this to everyone, but it is binary. In one way that stinks, but in another, thank God it's only binary. I don't want a European style choice of 37 different parties.
Twelve Visions Party? :shrug:Yep. Here's their website: http://tvpnc.org/ (http://tvpnc.org/)
Yep. Here's their website: http://tvpnc.org/ (http://tvpnc.org/)
and their platform:http://tvpnc.org/Prime_Documents/TVP%20National%20Platform.pdf (http://tvpnc.org/Prime_Documents/TVP%20National%20Platform.pdf)
Make All the People Rich, Including the Poor, the premier (and timeless) National Platform of the Twelve Visions Party, opens the mind-space to visualize a Twelve-Visions World.It is just one of the plethora of visions for America out there. I like the Constitution Party, myself.
Far out man
There aren't 37 choices, actually, aside from Republicrats and Democans, I counted 68 parties to choose from:
America First Party
America's Party
America's Third Party
American Eagle Party
American Freedom Party
American Independent Party
American Nazi Party
American Party
Citizens Party
Communist Party
Conservative Party
Constitution Party
Country Party
Cyber Party
Democratic-Republican Party
Freedom Socialist Party
Grassroots Party
Green Party
Independence Party of Florida
Independence Party of Minnesota
Independence Party of New York
Independent American Party
Independent Green Party
Independent Party of Connecticut
Independent Party of Delaware
Independent Party of Oregon
Iowa Party
Justice Party
Labor Party
Legalize Marijuana Party
Liberal Party
Libertarian Party
Liberty Union Party
Light Party
Marijuana Party
Moderate Party
Modern Whig Party
National Socialist Movement
Natural Law Party
New Hampshire Liberty Party
New Independent Party
Objectivist Party
Oregon Progressive Party
Pacifist Party
Party for Socialism and Liberation
Peace and Freedom Party
Pirate Party
Prohibition Party
Reform Party
Rent Is Too Damn High Party
Sapient Party
Social Democrats USA
Socialist Action
Socialist Alternative
Socialist Equality Party
Socialist Labor Party
Socialist Party
Socialist Workers Party
Tax Wall Street Party
Transhumanist Party
Twelve Visions Party
United Independent Party
Unity Party
Vermont Progressive Party
Veterans Party
Women's Equality Party
Workers World Party
Working Families Party
https://amthirdpartyreport.com/category/constitution-party/ (https://amthirdpartyreport.com/category/constitution-party/)
Scroll down the sidebar on the right, but these are just the ones with web links.
Of these, the Libertarian, Reform, Green, and Constitution Parties are the top 4.
Frankly, my favorite is the Constitution Party, but when I say I am a Conservative, I believe much of the Constitution as amended is a great framework, and that we should return to it. I'd repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments, though, and restore even that to something closer to the Founders' well thought out structure for a Government, and rein in the FedGov, back to its assigned duties and return the functions and powers it has usurped to the States and the people.
So, there are only six parties in play, not the full 70, which should be quite a relief for you.
We had three parties represented in the Congress before (that's right, Bernie Sanders was listed as a Socialist).
You forgot the Cheese Party.Well, at least cheese is binding. I got a flag that the Pirate party site was not secure. Go figure.
http://cheeseparty.org/
And the American Pirate Party
http://uspirates.org/
Trump might be the perfect President for 2017. If he really is a liberal Republican, maybe Ryan and McConnell can actually resist his agenda, or at least pretend to enough to throw Republican citizens a bone now and again.
They would never resist anything clinton wants to do.