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Title: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Wingnut on January 27, 2024, 02:45:20 pm
Anyone who has ever worn a hard hat knows the answer is "True".

President Joe Biden wore a hard hat backwards during a photo op with union construction workers in Superior, Wisconsin.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/YrQT1SHmTtoCFC_MPgFpoA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTcwNTtoPTE5MDtjZj13ZWJw/https://media.zenfs.com/en/snopes_632/274e6d5dc8f9ac98afaa31449cc5e1d2)

After U.S. President Joe Biden and Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., visited a construction site in Superior, Wisconsin, on Jan. 25, 2024, to unveil the administration's $5 billion infrastructure plan, Klobuchar posted a photo on X (formerly Twitter) of herself, Biden and a group of construction workers celebrating in a local barroom.

Social media users not particularly friendly to the president were quick to identify what they took to be a gaffe on Biden's part: He appeared to be wearing a hard hat backwards.



The photo is genuine. And it does look, at first glance, like Biden was wearing that hard hat backwards. But after comparing it to other photos and videos of the same event, we were forced to reach the opposite conclusion: The hat on Biden's head was facing forward, bill to the front, not backward.

We identified it as the same hard hat worn by one of the construction workers Biden met that day. Here's a photo. Compare the arrangement of the stickers :

Read the rest of the spin at snopes.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-wear-hardhat-backwards/

Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 27, 2024, 07:16:52 pm
Nice try, but the "additional photos" suggest to me he had the hat on backwards.  Their own evidence does not support their claim.
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Wingnut on January 27, 2024, 07:32:20 pm
Nice try, but the "additional photos" suggest to me he had the hat on backwards.  Their own evidence does not support their claim.

Joe has been a long haul trucker and an oil field worker so he knows how to wear a hard hat.  right?
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 27, 2024, 09:56:46 pm
https://twitter.com/Stwabewys/status/1751305260935917738
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: bigheadfred on January 27, 2024, 09:59:37 pm
https://twitter.com/Stwabewys/status/1751305260935917738

If you know you know.
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Lando Lincoln on January 27, 2024, 10:46:51 pm
Joe was waiting for Y.M.C.A. by the Village People to start playing.
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Wingnut on January 28, 2024, 09:08:56 pm
Snopes eats crow after backlash!

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-tongues-wagging-biden-030400724.html

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Rating: True
Editor's Note: We received a ton of comments in a very short time challenging our assumption that wearing a hard hat "backwards" means wearing it with the brim facing to the rear, and "forwards" means wearing it brim to the front. On the basis of that assumption, we originally rated the claim that Biden was wearing a hard hat backwards as false.

The prevailing counter-argument is that if the suspension of the hat has been purposely configured by its owner such that the bill and tightening knob are worn to the back (as was the case of the hat Biden wore), to wear that hat with the bill facing forward is, practically speaking, to wear it backwards. Therefore, it's argued, it's actually true that, in the photo op discussed below, Biden was wearing it backwards. The strap and tightening knob, which should have been behind Biden's head, were on his forehead.

A corollary to that argument is "Biden looks d*mn silly in any case."

We find these arguments sound. Therefore, the claim "President Joe Biden wore a hard hat backwards during a photo op with union construction workers in Superior, Wisconsin" is true, and this fact check has been re-rated as such. Thanks to all who argued on behalf of this correction.

Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: bigheadfred on January 28, 2024, 09:13:27 pm
Snopes eats crow after backlash!

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-tongues-wagging-biden-030400724.html

 :mauslaff:
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2024, 09:45:54 pm
Snopes eats crow after backlash!

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-tongues-wagging-biden-030400724.html

 :laughingdog:
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: libertybele on January 28, 2024, 09:47:53 pm
Who believes anything 'Snopes' says anyways.  They've been unreliable for decades. :shrug:
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2024, 09:48:41 pm
Who believes anything 'Snopes' says anyways.  They've been unreliable for decades. :shrug:

Yeah, but it's fun when they are forced to admit it.....
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: libertybele on January 28, 2024, 09:49:25 pm
Yeah, but it's fun when they are forced to admit it.....

 :laugh: Indeed
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Wingnut on January 28, 2024, 10:08:08 pm
Yeah, but it's fun when they are forced to admit it.....
Problem is that the closest thing to a hard hat these soybouys have ever seen is a flavored condom.
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Hoodat on January 28, 2024, 11:00:47 pm
This is backwards.

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(https://media.notthebee.com/articles/65b54674d0c1765b54674d0c18.jpg)
Title: Snopes REVERSES 'fact check' claiming Joe Biden didn’t wear hard hat backwards
Post by: rangerrebew on January 29, 2024, 05:36:04 pm
 
AMERICAN NEWS Jan 27, 2024
Snopes REVERSES 'fact check' claiming Joe Biden didn’t wear hard hat backwards
The fact-check outlet had previously stated Biden wore the hat in standard fashion.
 
 
Misinformation hall-monitor website Snopes was forced to reverse a fact-check on Saturday after making the false claim the Joe Biden did not wear a hard hat backwards during a recent photo-op with construction workers.

When Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) posted the photo of Biden to X with several other construction workers, users responded slamming Biden for wearing the hard hat backwards. 
 
One user zoomed into the photo and posted, "Why his hard hat is wore backward?"
 
Others were quick to respond to Biden's often middle-class image that is portrayed in media, saying, "Hat backwards because 'he’s a man of the people.'"

https://thepostmillennial.com/snopes-reverses-fact-check-claiming-joe-biden-didnt-wear-hard-hat-backwards?utm_campaign=64487
Title: Re: Snopes REVERSES 'fact check' claiming Joe Biden didn’t wear hard hat backwards
Post by: rangerrebew on January 29, 2024, 05:37:33 pm
I'll bet his press secretary will say wearing hats backwards is cool these days and that is what he was doing. :tongue2:
Title: Re: Snopes uses pretzel logic to explain Joe's Hard Hat picture.
Post by: Mod5 on January 29, 2024, 05:39:57 pm
Merged.