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Title: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: corbe on September 23, 2020, 03:55:00 pm
Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground

Good Republican candidates do well in Texas while weak candidates have a hard time.

by David Thornton
September 23rd, 2020


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Fresh on the heels of news that two red states, Georgia and Iowa, are dead heats in the presidential election comes another indication that Joe Biden is taking the fight to states that are typically considered safe for Republicans. This time the alarm bells are ringing in Texas, a state that has not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1976.

The extent of Republican concerns for the Lone Star State is shown by a Politico report that Texas is among several battleground states that received million dollar cash infusions from the Republican National Committee. The $1.3 million payment is the largest-ever grant from the RNC to the Texas State GOP.

Underscoring the problem is a new poll from the Tyson Group that shows President Trump trailing Joe Biden by a 44-48 margin with five percent undecided. The poll also found that Trump’s approval in the state was underwater by four points at 45 percent.

Senator John Cornyn is also struggling in his re-election bid. At 35 percent approval, Cornyn holds a two-point lead over MJ Hegar, his Democratic challenger, with 11 percent undecided.

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Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: corbe on September 23, 2020, 03:55:54 pm
   Just what @libertybele alluded to yesterday.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: skeeter on September 23, 2020, 04:12:19 pm
And all of this time presidential candidates thought they had to actually campaign to shoot up in the polls.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: massadvj on September 23, 2020, 04:37:48 pm
Yawn.  Every two years, I read about Texas turning blue. Then there is a Republican landslide.  Then two years later ir is supposedly turning blue again. I do recognize that Austin in particular is becoming "California-ized" and that the migrants are bringing the politics that destroyed California with them, in the hope that maybe this time they will finally get socialism right.  But I have yet to see an election where the predictions of Texas being blue have come to pass, so I take this with a big, big grain of salt.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: skeeter on September 23, 2020, 04:40:32 pm
Yawn.  Every two years, I read about Texas turning blue. Then there is a Republican landslide.  Then two years later ir is supposedly turning blue again. I do recognize that Austin in particular is becoming "California-ized" and that the migrants are bringing the politics that destroyed California with them, in the hope that maybe this time they will finally get socialism right.  But I have yet to see an election where the predictions of Texas being blue have come to pass, so I take this with a big, big grain of salt.
I just don’t sense the Big Mo is with the Biden camp. Tough to generate any with the ‘lid’ on two out of every three days.

However the rats are planning bigtime hijinks this time, so who knows.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: corbe on September 23, 2020, 04:41:21 pm
   Cruz beating beto by only 2.2% was a real eye opener for me in 2018.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: massadvj on September 23, 2020, 04:53:51 pm
   Cruz beating beto by only 2.2% was a real eye opener for me in 2018.

I think Beto got every possible vote he could out of the Dem coalition in Texas.  In particular, he was popular with millennials, and they can be a game changer anywhere, as they were in 2008 when they showed up in droves to support Obama.  But millennials will not be voting in big numbers this year.  They are principled enough not to care when there is no one on the ballot to inspire them.

Case in point: Cornyn is polling at plus 8 right now.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: sneakypete on September 23, 2020, 05:05:34 pm
   Cruz beating beto by only 2.2% was a real eye opener for me in 2018.

@corbe

No kidding. Beato isn't even within shouting distance of being normal.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 23, 2020, 11:17:12 pm
@corbe

No kidding. Beato isn't even within shouting distance of being normal.
He is normal by Democrat standards ala Joe Biden.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: Victoria33 on September 23, 2020, 11:32:19 pm
   Cruz beating beto by only 2.2% was a real eye opener for me in 2018.

Many thousands of Democrats who had not voted in a Primary before, showed up in 2018, and those high Democrat numbers voted in the general, and Cruz barely won.

It will be worse this year and Texas may become Democrat.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: mystery-ak on September 23, 2020, 11:39:32 pm
I How can this be, Biden never comes out of the basement...
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: Victoria33 on September 24, 2020, 12:17:27 am
How can this be, Biden never comes out of the basement...
@mystery-ak

Trump comes out everywhere, screwing up, that is how this can be.   happy77
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 24, 2020, 12:28:51 am
Many thousands of Democrats who had not voted in a Primary before, showed up in 2018, and those high Democrat numbers voted in the general, and Cruz barely won.

It will be worse this year and Texas may become Democrat.
Guess it makes no difference to you if it has been 26 years since a Democrat last won a statewide office?
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 24, 2020, 12:31:32 am
Yawn.  Every two years, I read about Texas turning blue. Then there is a Republican landslide.  Then two years later ir is supposedly turning blue again. I do recognize that Austin in particular is becoming "California-ized" and that the migrants are bringing the politics that destroyed California with them, in the hope that maybe this time they will finally get socialism right.  But I have yet to see an election where the predictions of Texas being blue have come to pass, so I take this with a big, big grain of salt.

Educate yourself @Victoria33 Read this  pointing-up
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 24, 2020, 12:39:49 am
@mystery-ak

Trump comes out everywhere, screwing up, that is how this can be. 

You sound confused @Victoria33   Would a man who's "screwing up" have 12,000 people stand and cheer him on just at one event in Pennsylvania?? 

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Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: HoustonSam on September 24, 2020, 12:47:57 am
Many thousands of Democrats who had not voted in a Primary before, showed up in 2018, and those high Democrat numbers voted in the general, and Cruz barely won.

It will be worse this year and Texas may become Democrat.

Trump's failure to control his mouth and social media posting certainly activates democrats and would-be democrats.  But I think Beto's campaign was simply the high water mark for The Young and The Clueless in Texas.

The democrats' alignment with anarchy and lawlessness will not sell in this state.  Given the choice between a narcissist lunatic who will maintain law and order, manage the economy effectively, speak up for individual rights to assemble and engage in commerce, and put Constitutionalists on the court, and Chauncey Gardiner speaking for Madame DeFarge, we'll take the former every day and twice on Sunday.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: corbe on September 24, 2020, 12:49:08 am
   Yes, it's been done before @Right_in_Virginia

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Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: roamer_1 on September 24, 2020, 01:08:30 am
You sound confused @Victoria33   Would a man who's "screwing up" have 12,000 people stand and cheer him on just at one event in Pennsylvania?? 


Because people are sheep.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 24, 2020, 01:29:13 pm
Because people are sheep.
Speak for yourself rather than making blanket pronouncements.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: skeeter on September 24, 2020, 01:40:54 pm
Trump's failure to control his mouth and social media posting certainly activates democrats and would-be democrats.  But I think Beto's campaign was simply the high water mark for The Young and The Clueless in Texas.

The democrats' alignment with anarchy and lawlessness will not sell in this state.  Given the choice between a narcissist lunatic who will maintain law and order, manage the economy effectively, speak up for individual rights to assemble and engage in commerce, and put Constitutionalists on the court, and Chauncey Gardiner speaking for Madame DeFarge, we'll take the former every day and twice on Sunday.

Pardon me if you were being facetious, but would a lunatic do those things you would credit him with? The worst I'll say about Trump is he often engages mouth before brain, which may be a character trait of many from Queens. Regarding his leadership in the White House, which is what should really matter to all of us, I haven't seen any better in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: Victoria33 on September 24, 2020, 02:25:15 pm
Guess it makes no difference to you if it has been 26 years since a Democrat last won a statewide office?
@IsailedawayfromFR

I worked in politics beginning when George Bush was Governor.  Part of my job was dealing with voter numbers.  Democrat voter numbers have risen by many thousands since 2016, and I am fearful Texas will lose Republican places in state government and national offices.  Hopefully, I will be wrong.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: sneakypete on September 24, 2020, 04:21:38 pm
Guess it makes no difference to you if it has been 26 years since a Democrat last won a statewide office?

@IsailedawayfromFR

The truth is it makes no difference to anyone that is rational. That was then,and this is now. We all live in the "now".
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: roamer_1 on September 24, 2020, 04:22:55 pm
Speak for yourself rather than making blanket pronouncements.

No... It is plain as the nose on your face. People ARE sheep. 9.9 out of 10 follow. Blindly.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: sneakypete on September 24, 2020, 04:24:31 pm
@IsailedawayfromFR

I worked in politics beginning when George Bush was Governor.   

@Victoria33

That explains it. Boy Jorge was one of the worse Presidents in the history of America.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 24, 2020, 04:49:48 pm
@IsailedawayfromFR

I worked in politics beginning when George Bush was Governor.  Part of my job was dealing with voter numbers.  Democrat voter numbers have risen by many thousands since 2016, and I am fearful Texas will lose Republican places in state government and national offices.  Hopefully, I will be wrong.
Saying you are fearful of Texas losing Republican seats is one thing, but I responded to a post wherein you said 'It will be worse this year and Texas may become Democrat.'

There is almost zero chance that this year Texas will become Democrat.  For one thing, all statewide and national seats are not up for election, and those seats are now held by Republicans who would have to switch sides to achieve your fear.

It is like saying after generations of only blue-eyed people are born in a family that suddenly a generation of only brown-eyed people are born.  So damn unlikely as to be laughable.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: Victoria33 on September 24, 2020, 05:38:20 pm
Saying you are fearful of Texas losing Republican seats is one thing, but I responded to a post wherein you said 'It will be worse this year and Texas may become Democrat.'
There is almost zero chance that this year Texas will become Democrat.  For one thing, all statewide and national seats are not up for election, and those seats are now held by Republicans who would have to switch sides to achieve your fear.
@IsailedawayfromFR

I am not the only one concerned about the huge number of Democrats voting in a Texas Primary when it had never happened before in modern times. The Texas Republican State Chairman also responded to the huge number of Democrats showing up at a primary, just like I did.  He even wrote a document about that and send it to all Republican Chairmen.

When voting, a voter of one party tends to vote the same party down the list of candidates.  If one votes for Biden, then consider this voter will vote for Democrats down the list.
Of course, any seat not up for election, will remain as it is.
Until now, I have never thought Texas Republicans could lose seats - and, of course I do not want them to lose seats.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 24, 2020, 06:38:09 pm
No... It is plain as the nose on your face. People ARE sheep. 9.9 out of 10 follow. Blindly.
You are not describing the bulk of patriotic and conservative Americans.

Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: HoustonSam on September 24, 2020, 07:31:05 pm
Pardon me if you were being facetious, but would a lunatic do those things you would credit him with? The worst I'll say about Trump is he often engages mouth before brain, which may be a character trait of many from Queens. Regarding his leadership in the White House, which is what should really matter to all of us, I haven't seen any better in my lifetime.

I'm not being facetious.   Although I'm no psychologist, I consider Trump's most obvious, defining trait to be narcissism, and I consider it extreme.  In contrast to the media and democrats, I do not find Trump to be a racist, power-hungry, or dictatorial; most of the criticism of Trump delivered by the "mainstream media" is simply lies.  But I find his narcissism to be a severe limitation on the quality of his leadership, because leadership is fundamentally influence.  The turnover his administration has experienced at the cabinet and WH staff level tells me that his influence is disabling, rather than enabling, for many capable people.  Refusing to accept accountability, consistently deflecting blame, under-cutting his subordinates, and elevating disagreement to puerile and needless personal controversy are not the marks of an effective leader.

In spite of that narcissism, his administration has accomplished some very desirable things for the country, and I'll add to that initial list the recent peace agreements.  His administration has done better than I expected and it seems slam-dunk obvious that a second Trump term will be far better for the country than any democrat administration; so while I did not vote for him in 2016 I will be voting for him this year.

Deciding that a vote for Trump is clearly my best choice in 2020 does not mean ignoring his glaring personal and character faults or pretending that he is something more than what we can all plainly see.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 24, 2020, 09:43:10 pm
I'll say this.
In 2016, the county I live in, Ft. Bend, went to Hillary.
In 2018, all the Blue candidates accept Pete Olsen won.
Pete Olden decided not to run again this time.
Troy Nehls, the former county sheriff is running for his congressional seat.
Beto may not have beat Cruz, but the Beto effect took out Republicans all down the ballot,
This year, there will be no more one punch straight party line vote.
You have to go line-by-line, which may stop some of the bleeding.
Fort Bend hadn't gone blue in a few decades until now.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
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Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: roamer_1 on September 24, 2020, 09:59:18 pm
You are not describing the bulk of patriotic and conservative Americans.

Yes I am. Very VERY few are independent.

Tail lights.
The last 4th of July I spent down on Flathead lake, when the fireworks show was just about over, I gave the 'load up' order and tried to get out of there before everyone else. I failed. I spent from 11:30 or so till 1:30 AM in a bumper to bumper cluster**** getting to the top of Somers knob, a mere few miles... And from the top of Somers knob, I looked across the silent, dark valley, with nothing for miles but a string of tail lights all the way to town. At the bottom of Somers hill, I turned right and went a half mile east to get onto Lower Valley Road, and breezed into town at 70mph... home in minutes.

People are sheep... It's just the truth of it.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2020, 11:27:00 pm
   Just what @libertybele alluded to yesterday.

It's a pity she ran off.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: sneakypete on September 25, 2020, 02:24:53 am
You are not describing the bulk of patriotic and conservative Americans.

@IsailedawayfromFR

And you and too many others are overconfident because you are overlooking the fact that the majority of Americans old enough to vote and neither conservative OR leftists.

They are middle-of-the road,pay attention to politics for a month every years" voters. Some vote for a Presidential candidate because he has a hot wife,others vote might vote for his opponent because his wife has nice hair and dresses nice.

Seriously.

Sadly,we live in an age where tv advertisements and celebs on talk shows (some know as political shows)  have more influence on political results that facts and political positions.

Luckily,in MY opinion,Trump knows this,understands it,and is countering it by some of the best political tv advertisements I have ever seen or heard,while Slow Joe hides in his basement and sucks his trumb. Or maybe is big toe.

Trump is just OOOZING dynamic energy,and Biden is the Energizer Bunny without his battery.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 25, 2020, 02:49:04 am
I'll say this.
In 2016, the county I live in, Ft. Bend, went to Hillary.
In 2018, all the Blue candidates accept Pete Olsen won.
Pete Olden decided not to run again this time.
Troy Nehls, the former county sheriff is running for his congressional seat.
Beto may not have beat Cruz, but the Beto effect took out Republicans all down the ballot,
This year, there will be no more one punch straight party line vote.
You have to go line-by-line, which may stop some of the bleeding.
Fort Bend hadn't gone blue in a few decades until now.

Go back to the 2016 results and look at what happened in Ft Bend down ballot.  It was still overwhemingly red, with one or two races even moving from blue to red.  IMO it demonstrated a mistrust of Trump and not a blue wave.  And then came RFO in 2018 and a lot of Dems rode in on his coattails.  Oooh, he goes to Whataburger and rides a skateboard!! dummies came out of the woodwork. I miss Judge Hebert.

I read today that Cornyn is +8 and Trump +5  in TX.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: LadyLiberty on September 25, 2020, 03:29:49 am
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Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: catfish1957 on September 25, 2020, 05:31:23 am
Can't vouch for the rest of Texas, but in my location, there isn't a Biden sign within a 10 mile radius of me.

I think the "Blue" wave isn't here yet.  2028?  Then it may be another story.
Title: Re: Another Red State Is Becoming A Battleground
Post by: GrouchoTex on September 25, 2020, 12:53:05 pm
Go back to the 2016 results and look at what happened in Ft Bend down ballot.  It was still overwhemingly red, with one or two races even moving from blue to red.  IMO it demonstrated a mistrust of Trump and not a blue wave.  And then came RFO in 2018 and a lot of Dems rode in on his coattails.  Oooh, he goes to Whataburger and rides a skateboard!! dummies came out of the woodwork. I miss Judge Hebert.

I read today that Cornyn is +8 and Trump +5  in TX.

My daughter-in-law worked for Fort Bend County Commissioner Patterson.
She lost her Job in 2018.
She still works for the County, in their transportation department.