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Title: Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles
Post by: mystery-ak on January 29, 2023, 02:37:06 pm
Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles

Oliver JJ Lane 29 Jan 2023

Western countries agreed to supply tanks for use against the Russian invasion this week, prompting the Ukrainian government to push the envelope further, with discussions about more major military equipment advancing.

(above, clockwise from top left: German Frigate Lübeck (F214), German Leopard-2 Main Battle Tank, German 212A diesel-electric hydrogen fuel cell attack submarine, F-16 fighter jet)

Talk of NATO nations supplying long-range missiles, warships, submarines, and fighter jets is evident, with Ukrainian government figures seemingly tasked with acquiring new equipment wasting absolutely no time to push new ideas immediately after the dam burst on tank supply.

The shift from tank talk to fighter jets was, perhaps inevitably, almost instantaneous after the United States and Germany dropped their previous objections to sending offensive armour to Ukraine this week. Yet the conversation has, at the hands of Ukrainian politicians and diplomats trying to talk Western powers into sending more equipment, taken another leap forward.

Discussions to get long-range missiles to Ukraine are apparently well underway, with reports describing the talks as “fast-track”. Advisor to Ukrainian President Zelensky, Mykhailo Podolyak, who has been a cheerleader for western warplanes is involved in the missile talks and said he was trying to explain to allies that getting the advanced weaponry would “reduce fatalities… reduce security threats to the European continent, this will keep the war localised”.

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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/01/29/now-receiving-tanks-ukraine-advances-discussions-to-jets-submarines-long-range-missiles/
Title: Re: Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles
Post by: catfish1957 on January 29, 2023, 02:45:06 pm
I am really starting to think that there are some pending gloom and doom economic factors undercutting what is going on.

Think of all the (non-regional)  wars of the past few hundred years that were at base level economically driven.  How better to distract, obfusicate, and distort a disastrous fiscal policy, than create potential world war scenario against a nation that is no. 11 in world GDP.

Title: Re: Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 29, 2023, 04:27:08 pm
FTA

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The United States had long insisted — right up until the point it flipped and agreed to send them — that its Abrams main battle tanks were too sophisticated to quickly train Ukrainians to drive, fight, and maintain. Yet donating a submarine with a novel energy system without crew is a whole new level of complexity. Sending a manned submarine is immediately possibly, but of course would be an actual act of war by a NATO member.

Insanity.
Title: Re: Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 29, 2023, 04:30:09 pm
Reminder:. None of this is our problem.  The borders in Europe have moved back and forth for a thousand years without any help from us.

Title: Re: Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 29, 2023, 04:56:51 pm
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Title: Re: Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 29, 2023, 06:57:51 pm
"Head of NATO's strategy council, Admiral Rob Bauer, says NATO is ready for "direct confrontation" with Russia -- but must transition to a "wartime economy" modeled on US industrial policy in World War II, when civilian factories were appropriated for full-time military production" (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/mtracey/status/1619560775017955329
Title: Re: Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles
Post by: mountaineer on January 31, 2023, 10:35:18 pm
 According to US president Joe Biden, World War III starts in a few weeks.

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Title: Re: Now Receiving Tanks, Ukraine Advances Discussions to Jets, Submarines, Long-Range Missiles
Post by: mountaineer on January 31, 2023, 11:03:25 pm
Rushing giddily into WWIII:

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5:19 PM · Jan 31, 2023