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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Machiavelli on June 28, 2014, 09:21:20 pm

Title: Venture Capitalist Proposing to Divide California Into 6 States
Post by: Machiavelli on June 28, 2014, 09:21:20 pm
Larry Gerston
NBC Bay Area
June 25, 2014

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Venture capitalist Tim Draper and his supporters this weekend will attempt to collect more than 800,000 valid signatures for his ballot proposal to divide California into six states.

With California home to 38 million people and the nation's most populated state, Draper said the state has become ungovernable and can no longer meet the needs of its citizens.

Draper has invested $2 million into his efforts to get California split into six states:
More (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Venture-Capitalist-Proposing-to-Divide-California-Into-6-States-264329621.html)

Why venture capitalist Tim Draper wants to divide California into six states (interview) (http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/21/why-venture-capitalist-tim-draper-wants-to-divide-california-into-six-states-interview/)

Wikipedia article: Six Californias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias)
Title: Re: Venture Capitalist Proposing to Divide California Into 6 States
Post by: Chieftain on June 28, 2014, 09:22:27 pm
That's if Obama doesn't lose it to Aztlan first.......

 :smokin:
Title: Re: Venture Capitalist Proposing to Divide California Into 6 States
Post by: Machiavelli on June 28, 2014, 11:31:01 pm
The state of Jefferson would be created from the far north part of California, bordering Oregon, and would consist of fourteen counties: Butte, Colusa, Del Norte, Glenn, Humboldt, Lake, Lassen, Mendocino, Modoc, Plumas, Siskiyou, Shasta, Tehama, and Trinity.

The state of North California would be south of Jefferson spanning from the Pacific Ocean to Nevada. North California would consist of thirteen counties: Amador, El Dorado, Marin, Napa, Nevada, Placer, Sacramento, Sierra, Solano, Sonoma, Sutter, Yolo and Yuba.
Silicon Valley

The state of Silicon Valley would span the coastline from San Francisco to Monterey. It would consist of eight counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, San Benito, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz and Monterey.

The state of Central California would be between Silicon Valley and Nevada. It would consist of the fourteen counties north of Los Angeles and south of Sacramento: Alpine, Calaveras, Fresno, Inyo, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, Mono, San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Tulare and Tuolumne.

The state of West California would be south of Silicon Valley and Central California, and west of San Bernardino County. It would consist of four counties: Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Los Angeles and Ventura.

The state of South California would be made up of the southernmost part of the state. It would consist of five counties: Imperial, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino and San Diego.

Source: Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias)

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Title: Re: Venture Capitalist Proposing to Divide California Into 6 States
Post by: SPQR on June 29, 2014, 06:13:05 am
Nothing new. This idea has been floating around for years. It still has to be approved by Congress. If he wants to blow his money on something that is long shot let him spend his money on it.
Title: Re: Venture Capitalist Proposing to Divide California Into 6 States
Post by: Oceander on June 30, 2014, 01:18:04 pm
I honestly cannot see this happening this side of the collapse of the US federal government (at which point the consent of Congress would be moot as there would be no Congress to give such consent, nor a Constitution that required such consent).
Title: Re: Venture Capitalist Proposing to Divide California Into 6 States
Post by: Machiavelli on June 30, 2014, 02:50:01 pm
I don't think it's going to happen either. This proposal almost belongs in the humor section.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Venture Capitalist Proposing to Divide California Into 6 States
Post by: Oceander on June 30, 2014, 03:04:50 pm
I don't think it's going to happen either. This proposal almost belongs in the humor section.  :laugh:


agreed!
Title: Re: Venture Capitalist Proposing to Divide California Into 6 States
Post by: truth_seeker on June 30, 2014, 04:27:11 pm
If the states are not sacred, why then are the counties sacred?

I expect many of the counties would have difficulty financially, without subsidies from state funds. For example San Bernardino, which is the largest county in the country, and therefore has a lot of territory to cover with helicopters and fire fighting equipment. Not much industry, however.

To even discuss topics like breaking California into parts, requires analysis of capitals, sources and applications of taxpayer funds, etc.

Nationwide the average population of a state is between approaching 7 million.  The six sections proposed here, are very uneven in population.