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Title: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: TomSea on November 09, 2017, 06:50:36 pm
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Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
By Andrew Kaczynski and Chris Massie, CNN
Updated 12:26 PM ET, Thu November 9, 2017


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    Moore ruled in a 1990s divorce case that a woman who had a lesbian affair couldn't visit her children unsupervised or with her partner.
    Moore, then a circuit judge, was ultimately removed from the case by an Alabama appeals court after the woman and her attorneys argued that he couldn't be impartial because of his views on homosexuality.

(CNN)Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for Senate in Alabama, ruled in a 1990s divorce case that a woman who had a lesbian affair couldn't visit her children unsupervised or with her partner, writing that the "minor children will be detrimentally affected by the present lifestyle" of the mother.
Moore, then a circuit judge, was ultimately removed from the case by an Alabama appeals court after the woman and her attorneys argued that he couldn't be impartial because of his views on homosexuality, according to public court documents reviewed by CNN's KFile.

Read more at: http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/politics/kfile-roy-moore-divorce-case/index.html
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: dfwgator on November 09, 2017, 06:53:24 pm
That should help him.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: cato potatoe on November 09, 2017, 07:12:25 pm
This was the 1990s, and a lot of people's views have changed.  The bothersome part is he failed at his job, time and time again.  Justice is supposed to be blind, and Roy Moore was there to push an agenda.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: DiogenesLamp on November 09, 2017, 09:26:35 pm
This was the 1990s, and a lot of people's views have changed.  The bothersome part is he failed at his job, time and time again.  Justice is supposed to be blind, and Roy Moore was there to push an agenda.


Insisting upon a Normal  reading of the law is not an agenda.   
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Hoodat on November 10, 2017, 04:10:01 am
That should help him.

Exactly.  CNN acts as if he is running for Senator of San Francisco.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 10, 2017, 07:01:52 am
is it just me, or is this one of those ..."and another thing!" stories to toss on the allegations by the young (at the time, 40 long, silent, years ago) ladies?
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 10, 2017, 07:29:17 am
is it just me, or is this one of those ..."and another thing!" stories to toss on the allegations by the young (at the time, 40 long, silent, years ago) ladies?

Yup. Bezos set the stink bomb with these now questionable allegations so that the MSM had an excuse to drag up all the shit he has done over the last 40 years. Smell very coordinated to me.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 10, 2017, 07:44:42 am
Yup. Bezos set the stink bomb with these now questionable allegations so that the MSM had an excuse to drag up all the shit he has done over the last 40 years. Smell very coordinated to me.
Reminds me of another set of campaign attacks...coordinated, rapid fire, damning if true, visceral allegations which don't look for the truth but produce emotive reactions on a knee jerk basis, very familiar.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 10, 2017, 07:52:23 am
Reminds me of another set of campaign attacks...coordinated, rapid fire, damning if true, visceral allegations which don't look for the truth but produce emotive reactions on a knee jerk basis, very familiar.

We're on the same wavelength. Taylor v Cass election of 1848 right?
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 10, 2017, 08:10:31 am
We're on the same wavelength. Taylor v Cass election of 1848 right?
Admittedly, I was thinking of something more recent. I may be gray around the muzzle, but Taylor v Cass was a mite before my time. Plenty of mudslinging, though...
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Bigun on November 10, 2017, 11:02:52 am
Admittedly, I was thinking of something more recent. I may be gray around the muzzle, but Taylor v Cass was a mite before my time. Plenty of mudslinging, though...

Something along the lines of a certain black presidential candidate who was getting some traction when someone found a few women to come forward and make unfounded allegations against him all of whom just faded back into the woodwork after he dropped his candidacy perhaps?
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 10, 2017, 06:57:51 pm
Something along the lines of a certain black presidential candidate who was getting some traction when someone found a few women to come forward and make unfounded allegations against him all of whom just faded back into the woodwork after he dropped his candidacy perhaps?
Well, him, too...

I was thinking of a primary election, but be that as it may, it sure seems to be a pattern.

Either there just aren't very many GOP candidates who can keep their pecker in their pants and their hands to themselves, or this is the media driven attack, standard, MK 1.n with the allegations well publicized in time to scuttle the candidate but not refuted in time to be disseminated before the vote.

I will say one thing for Pence, they won't turn him into another Wilbur Mills as long as he keeps the Mrs. close. It is the only defense against this sort of crap, and he is a rare one who realizes that.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: musiclady on November 10, 2017, 07:03:28 pm
Well, him, too...

I was thinking of a primary election, but be that as it may, it sure seems to be a pattern.

Either there just aren't very many GOP candidates who can keep their pecker in their pants and their hands to themselves, or this is the media driven attack, standard, MK 1.n with the allegations well publicized in time to scuttle the candidate but not refuted in time to be disseminated before the vote.

I will say one thing for Pence, they won't turn him into another Wilbur Mills as long as he keeps the Mrs. close. It is the only defense against this sort of crap, and he is a rare one who realizes that.

They should all follow the Billy Graham example and never, ever, ever, be in a room alone with a woman.

Ever.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 10, 2017, 08:45:12 pm
They should all follow the Billy Graham example and never, ever, ever, be in a room alone with a woman.

Ever.
Oh I agree, at least not without someone in the next room and the door open.

But 40 years alter, how many witnesses would even still be alive, much less remember?

 To put that in perspective, "Where were you on November 10, 1977, and do you remember this guy?" I have to stop and thing what State I was in...and couldn't tell you off the top of my head what day of the week it was.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: musiclady on November 10, 2017, 08:48:51 pm
Oh I agree, at least not without someone in the next room and the door open.

But 40 years alter, how many witnesses would even still be alive, much less remember?

 To put that in perspective, "Where were you on November 10, 1977, and do you remember this guy?" I have to stop and thing what State I was in...and couldn't tell you off the top of my head what day of the week it was.

But I would guess that a teenage girl would remember if she was assaulted or groped by a man half again her age... both where and when...

Again, I'm not saying that these women are telling the truth.  But if it did happen to them, they remember.

And if Moore never did such a thing, then he should remember as well.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 10, 2017, 08:56:28 pm
But I would guess that a teenage girl would remember if she was assaulted or groped by a man half again her age... both where and when...

Again, I'm not saying that these women are telling the truth.  But if it did happen to them, they remember.

And if Moore never did such a thing, then he should remember as well.
As to the first, certainly she would, if it happened. The more the event (if one occurred) was pleasant--or unpleasant, the more vivid the memories. The extremes stand out in our recollections. The ordinary tends not to.

Again, I'm not saying this isn't a complete fabrication, too.

He admitted dating the 17 year old, and 40 years ago, that was going to movies and the drive-in, not the hookup 'dating' tends to be considered today.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: musiclady on November 10, 2017, 08:59:30 pm
As to the first, certainly she would, if it happened. The more the event (if one occurred) was pleasant--or unpleasant, the more vivid the memories. The extremes stand out in our recollections. The ordinary tends not to.

Again, I'm not saying this isn't a complete fabrication, too.

He admitted dating the 17 year old, and 40 years ago, that was going to movies and the drive-in, not the hookup 'dating' tends to be considered today.

Good point.

Today's connotation of the word "dating" (do people even say that any more?) involves far more than what dates actually were 40 years ago.

Movies and TV's dark hindsight notwithstanding, there were a lot of moral folks back then who actually didn't jump into bed with a perfect stranger like too many do now....
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: DiogenesLamp on November 10, 2017, 09:02:25 pm
But I would guess that a teenage girl would remember if she was assaulted or groped by a man half again her age... both where and when...

Again, I'm not saying that these women are telling the truth.  But if it did happen to them, they remember.

And if Moore never did such a thing, then he should remember as well.


From TOS.   

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Another Freeper found these posts on the Fox Business Facebook page that was talking about this story:
https://www.facebook.com/FoxBusiness/?ref=br_rs

Post 1: She is a liar. Some of my family was Pastor to her and she is lying 100%. We know her personally... Terrible woman! She lied on several ministers that we know.

Post 2: .... yes, it is very much so a pattern for her! she has went to various churches within our denomination and accused at least three other pastors besides an uncle of ours, making sexual advances at her. Each time that she brought it to the District board for Alabama they found her to be uncredible and she changed her story many times. Additionally, she tried to sue a pastor in one of the sections within our denomination and the Circuit Judge would not hear the case. This was around 2007 this particular incident took place.

Post 3: Our section Presbyter has been notified and has notified the proper authorities! She is 100% uncredible. This is just an attack on a good Christian man, no doubt she was promised some type of monetary benefit for her lies by someone... I know 100% that she is money hungry and I wish I could go into details of the other situations involving the pastor that she accused. I will say this though I can truthfully say that 3 times out of the four times she accused pastors that we know, she attempted to “ Make a Deal” to not go public with the accusation if she would be compensated an x amount of dollars. That is one reason why the Circuit Judge in the Civil Court dismissed her case with prejudice.

It will be pretty easy to search the Alabama Court records to see if that civil suit was filed by the accuser against a pastor around 2007 and it’s disposition. It’s game over for the ComPost when that becomes public.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3603547/posts?page=9#9


Might be crap,  but then again it might not be.   


Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: DiogenesLamp on November 10, 2017, 09:06:04 pm
As to the first, certainly she would, if it happened. The more the event (if one occurred) was pleasant--or unpleasant, the more vivid the memories. The extremes stand out in our recollections. The ordinary tends not to.

Again, I'm not saying this isn't a complete fabrication, too.

He admitted dating the 17 year old, and 40 years ago, that was going to movies and the drive-in, not the hookup 'dating' tends to be considered today.



And does no one note that none of the older teenagers are saying he touched their bras or panties or anything untoward?    Only this one woman is alleging this.  (the one who was 14 at the time.)   The other three are not.   

Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 10, 2017, 09:23:49 pm


And does no one note that none of the older teenagers are saying he touched their bras or panties or anything untoward?    Only this one woman is alleging this.  (the one who was 14 at the time.)   The other three are not.
Yep. Only one reads like something from the letters in Penthouse Forum.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: aligncare on November 10, 2017, 09:25:01 pm
Sean Hannity is right in the middle of a live interview with Roy Moore at this very moment.

I have to say Sean is asking the tough questions but the judge is not fielding them very well in my opinion. He does not seem to be acquitting himself well.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: DiogenesLamp on November 10, 2017, 10:13:50 pm
Sean Hannity is right in the middle of a live interview with Roy Moore at this very moment.

I have to say Sean is asking the tough questions but the judge is not fielding them very well in my opinion. He does not seem to be acquitting himself well.


Did he get any better?   How did this interview end up? 


Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: aligncare on November 10, 2017, 10:22:09 pm
After listening to the entire interview he did better as the interview progressed and did eventually, forcefully deny the allegations. Also he became more animated as he brought up the political aspects of the timing of the allegations. On balance, at this point though, it’s still a he said–she said for me.
Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: DiogenesLamp on November 10, 2017, 10:30:11 pm
After listening to the entire interview he did better as the interview progressed and did eventually, forcefully deny the allegations. Also he became more animated as he brought up the political aspects of the timing of the allegations. On balance, at this point though, it’s still a he said–she said for me.


Did you see that excerpt I posted from Free Republic where someone is alleging that this woman has done this same thing before,  multiple times?   


Supposedly the woman who posted that can be contacted,  but I don't do facebook. 


Title: Re: CNN: Roy Moore was removed from 1990s divorce case after he barred lesbian from seeing her children unsupervised
Post by: aligncare on November 10, 2017, 10:31:37 pm
Yes, I read the posts. Veeery interesting.