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General Category => Editorial/Opinion/Blogs => Topic started by: Sanguine on June 06, 2019, 03:59:42 pm

Title: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Sanguine on June 06, 2019, 03:59:42 pm
Steven Crowder was just kicked off of YouTube, apparently because a Vox person complained about him.   He joins an ever longer list of anti-leftist voices being silenced there.

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Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: roamer_1 on June 06, 2019, 04:10:22 pm
Steven Crowder was just kicked off of YouTube, apparently because a Vox person complained about him.   He joins an ever longer list of anti-leftist voices being silenced there.


@Sanguine

Correction: To my knowledge, Crowder is not 'kicked off', but he has been de-monitized, at least temporarily.
It is an interesting case - In the light of Google's $70B loss this quarter, largely blamed upon Youtube's algorithms, Youtube actually defended Crowder in part - refusing to kick him off the platform.

That is when Maza at VOX went after the advertisers.

Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: roamer_1 on June 06, 2019, 04:12:51 pm
For more information,
Look to the latest vids by Red Elephant, Tim Pool, Shapiro
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Dexter on June 06, 2019, 04:14:06 pm
Internet censorship will get even worse if the Republicans let corporations crap all over net neutrality for profit. We all need to be vigilant and fight this kind of thing, otherwise the greatest technology yet made will be perverted by the government and big business.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Sanguine on June 06, 2019, 04:15:17 pm
@Sanguine

Correction: To my knowledge, Crowder is not 'kicked off', but he has been de-monitized, at least temporarily.
It is an interesting case - In the light of Google's $70B loss this quarter, largely blamed upon Youtube's algorithms, Youtube actually defended Crowder in part - refusing to kick him off the platform.

That is when Maza at VOX went after the advertisers.

Thanks, @roamer_1.  Appreciate the correction. 
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Wingnut on June 06, 2019, 04:16:14 pm
Internet censorship will get even worse if the Republicans let corporations crap all over net neutrality for profit.

The push for Net neutrality is the second biggest scam perpetrated upon the American public right after Man made climate change.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Dexter on June 06, 2019, 04:19:47 pm
The push for Net neutrality is the second biggest scam perpetrated upon the American public right after Man made climate change.

Most people don't actually understand this issue. Net neutrality is a good thing and has been the standard since the beginning of the internet. People interested in making lots of money want to destroy it and prioritize internet content, which will lead to more censorship.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Sanguine on June 06, 2019, 04:36:59 pm
Internet censorship will get even worse if the Republicans let corporations crap all over net neutrality for profit. We all need to be vigilant and fight this kind of thing, otherwise the greatest technology yet made will be taken from us by the government and big business.

Did you really write that?   :facepalm2:
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Dexter on June 06, 2019, 04:41:53 pm
Did you really write that?   :facepalm2:

I sure did.

The fight to maintain internet freedom is important to me.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Sanguine on June 06, 2019, 04:44:22 pm
I sure did.

The fight to maintain internet freedom is important to me.

If that is true, why do you advocate for the Orwellianly named "net neutrality" push?
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: roamer_1 on June 06, 2019, 04:45:59 pm
Internet censorship will get even worse if the Republicans let corporations crap all over net neutrality for profit. We all need to be vigilant and fight this kind of thing, otherwise the greatest technology yet made will be taken from us by the government and big business.

@Dexter
Maybe so - But this issue in particular is not about net neutrality, lest we confuse other readers.

It is about corporate liberalism censoring that which does not agree with liberalism... Likely best demonstrated by what they did in unison against Alex Jones.

This is all about the 'platform vs. publisher' argument.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Dexter on June 06, 2019, 04:54:56 pm
If that is true, why do you advocate for the Orwellianly named "net neutrality" push?

Net neutrality is simply the principle that ISPs should treat all internet communications equally and not discriminate or charge differently based on user, content, website, platform, application, type of equipment or method of communication.

If you're against net neutrality you are against the idea that content shouldn't be prioritized by ISPs for profit.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Dexter on June 06, 2019, 04:57:12 pm
@Dexter
Maybe so - But this issue in particular is not about net neutrality, lest we confuse other readers.

It is about corporate liberalism censoring that which does not agree with liberalism... Likely best demonstrated by what they did in unison against Alex Jones.

This is all about the 'platform vs. publisher' argument.

Yeah, you're right. I guess I just wanted to point out that in my opinion the left and right are both failing to fight for internet freedom in their own way. Both sides need to get with the program on this issue.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: roamer_1 on June 06, 2019, 05:04:11 pm
Yeah, you're right. I guess I just wanted to point out that in my opinion the left and right are both failing to fight for internet freedom in their own way. Both sides need to get with the program on this issue.

It has definitely turned a terrible corner...
I have always known our geek friends were largely liberal, but their one glorious principle, that 'information must be free', was something I thought could never be altered. That the internet community by and large is now allowing, even cheering censorship makes net neutrality a moot point.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Bill Cipher on June 06, 2019, 05:09:00 pm
Net neutrality is simply the principle that ISPs should treat all internet communications equally and not discriminate or charge differently based on user, content, website, platform, application, type of equipment or method of communication.

If you're against net neutrality you are against the idea that content shouldn't be prioritized by ISPs for profit.

Net neutrality is also about not being charged in accordance with your actual use, which simply engenders a tragedy of the commons scenario. 
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Dexter on June 06, 2019, 05:13:31 pm
Net neutrality is also about not being charged in accordance with your actual use, which simply engenders a tragedy of the commons scenario.

We're not going to run out of internet. The internet will not be depleted, so I don't think a tragedy of the commons scenario can happen.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: roamer_1 on June 06, 2019, 05:45:49 pm
Steven Crowder vs. the (YouTube) universe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQZ-mbYQgS0#)

Glenn Beck: Steven Crowder vs. the (YouTube) universe
9:37
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Wingnut on June 06, 2019, 06:02:06 pm
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Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 06, 2019, 06:39:33 pm
Speaking of Vox and its writers...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-04/-house-of-cards-and-the-wire-creators-urge-union-deal-at-vox (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-04/-house-of-cards-and-the-wire-creators-urge-union-deal-at-vox)
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 06, 2019, 07:27:37 pm
We're not going to run out of internet. The internet will not be depleted, so I don't think a tragedy of the commons scenario can happen.
Oh, really? https://hmpg.net/ (https://hmpg.net/)

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Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 06, 2019, 08:39:51 pm
Net neutrality is also about not being charged in accordance with your actual use, which simply engenders a tragedy of the commons scenario.

Totally agree.

  :thumbsup:
Title: Dave Rubin & Steven Crowder on Vox Adpocalypse | Rubin Report
Post by: truth_seeker on June 08, 2019, 06:26:51 pm
Dave Rubin & Steven Crowder on Vox Adpocalypse | Rubin Report
Published on Jun 8, 2019
Dave Rubin joins Steven Crowder on Louder with Crowder to discuss the Vox Adpocalypse, free speech, censorship and YouTube's new hate speech policy.
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Title: Re: Dave Rubin & Steven Crowder on Vox Adpocalypse | Rubin Report
Post by: truth_seeker on June 08, 2019, 06:56:06 pm
Scott Adams: Demise of VOX and the Daily Beast, Nervous Nancy, Floppy Joe, Shadowbanning

Published on Jun 7, 2019

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Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Sanguine on June 08, 2019, 07:26:15 pm
@truth_seeker I combined these two threads into one.  Thanks for posting these two youtubes.
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: truth_seeker on June 08, 2019, 08:01:09 pm
Sen. Ted Cruz defends Crowder.

Good for him. I hope he realizes how the growing alt-media will influence politics. Already does.

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&source=hp&ei=9RL8XKjxFtHa-gS9-JugDQ&q=ted+cruz+defend+youtube+steven+crowder&oq=ted+cruz+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39l2j0j0i131l2j0l5.3993.8251..12991...1.0..1.108.944.9j2......0....1..gws-wiz.....6.X-g4RZRvXLw (https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&source=hp&ei=9RL8XKjxFtHa-gS9-JugDQ&q=ted+cruz+defend+youtube+steven+crowder&oq=ted+cruz+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39l2j0j0i131l2j0l5.3993.8251..12991...1.0..1.108.944.9j2......0....1..gws-wiz.....6.X-g4RZRvXLw)
Title: Re: The #VoxAdpocalypse is coming for you!
Post by: Sanguine on June 08, 2019, 08:06:50 pm
I loved the Rubin one.  But, I have a big crush on him - he's such an adult.   :laugh: