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General Category => Sports/Entertainment/MSM/Social Media => Shooting Sports => Topic started by: txradioguy on June 27, 2017, 05:10:03 pm
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Took it on post on Sunday. It was a packed class....20 students including myself and my wife.
The "legal" portion of the class was drool inducing...but thankfully almost 20 years in the Army had me ready for this kind of torture.
A few observations from the class:
There were a couple people that they bought the gun they brought to class specifically for this class and hadn't fired it prior to coming to the class.
When the instructor was going over the "how to clean your gun" portion of the class...there were many people who even though they had owned them for a couple years they were unfamiliar with or had forgotten how to field strip their weapons.
A couple of people...the ones that had bought their gun just to attend this class had trouble hitting a man sized silhouette at 7 yards...one lady put two round out of two magazines in the black...you need to hit 11 out of 20 to pass the range portion of the test.
One of the "can't hit the target shooters" was being shown by an RSO how to adjust her grip on the S&W .380 she was using...the slide was locked back but that didn't stop her from having her finger wrapped completely around the trigger. It was at that point my wife said "it's time to go".
One guy brought a Hi Point .45 as his qualifying gun. **nononono*
My wife was the only one that qualified with a wheel gun. The RSO's and the instructor were impressed, the other females there looked worried LOL!
One woman brought a .380 out there I'd never seen before and after researching it I would probably advise her to get rid of it...it's a Davis Arms .380
After I qualified I got to shoot a Glock 27 that was chambered (with a replacement barrel) for .357 Sig. I was impressed. In fact I'm starting to look at one of the X Conversion barrels for my P320 so I can alternate between 9mm and .357 Sig.
My wife and I both commented about how that was the shortest time on the firing range we'd spent since we started shooting and the fewest rounds we'd fired as well.
Right now we both feel like these two in comparison to the rest of the class:
(http://tremorsguide.com/dev/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Michael-Gross.jpg)
All in all it was a good class...and necessary to get our CCDW permits in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. And despite my stories to the extreme....there were other military types in there that were good shots and had quality weapons on them.
Now the hard part...like Tom Petty sang "The waiting is the hardest part..."
Sometime this week we should be getting via email our certificates showing we graduated the class...then we have to take that to the Sheriff's office and fill out the paperwork and pay $60 each for our permits...then wait up to 60 days to get our permits in the mail. I'm figuring we'll have them by Labor day.
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Of course you did! Never had any doubt.
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Congratulations!
Now comes the hardest part - deciding each morning which weapon goes with which holster for the days activities. :laugh:
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Congratulations!
Now comes the hardest part - deciding each morning which weapon goes with which holster for the days activities. :laugh:
Unless I can find a comfortable IWB holster for the Sig...I'm gonna use my 1911 as my EDC gun.
The Missus bought a concealed carry purse so she will have more flexibility than I do.
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Unless I can find a comfortable IWB holster for the Sig...I'm gonna use my 1911 as my EDC gun.
The Missus bought a concealed carry purse so she will have more flexibility than I do.
Congratulations!
Where did the Missus buy her purse?
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Tremors?
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Congratulations!
Where did the Missus buy her purse?
There was a lady selling concealed carry purses at a kiosk in the PX here.
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Tremors?
Yup!
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Yup!
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There was a lady selling concealed carry purses at a kiosk in the PX here.
Always liked the Flash and bang...
(http://thewellarmedwoman.com/image/data/products/looper/flashbang_holster-silber.jpg)
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Congrats. I'm envious.
In my county I'll sooner headline at Teatro alla Scala than ever have a CCW.
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Congrats! I LOVE my Glock 27, even in the standard .40 cal. :tongue2:
I used to carry in my purse, but got to thinking more and more that a lot of times women's purses are what's targeted for snatch and grab, so I switched to IWB.
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Always liked the Flash and bang...
I bet you did.
Always thought that was one of the worst ways to carry, though I've never tried it. One slip of the finger while your adrenaline is running could pop a balloon.
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I bet you did.
Always thought that was one of the worst ways to carry, though I've never tried it. One slip of the finger while your adrenaline is running could pop a balloon.
You do have a point! I'd hate to be known forever as "Half Sack"
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After I qualified I got to shoot a Glock 27 that was chambered (with a replacement barrel) for .357 Sig. I was impressed. In fact I'm starting to look at one of the X Conversion barrels for my P320 so I can alternate between 9mm and .357 Sig.
My son has a Sig in .357 Sig( model # eludes me) He likes it a Lot. Later on he picked up a .40 bbl for it also.
I got lazy and just mailed off for my CCW from Florida. No class or firearms qual for Veterans.
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My son has a Sig in .357 Sig( model # eludes me) He likes it a Lot. Later on he picked up a .40 bbl for it also.
I got lazy and just mailed off for my CCW from Florida. No class or firearms qual for Veterans.
Yeah I could have skipped the class because I'm active duty. But I thought I should go ahead and take it anyway.
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Yeah I could have skipped the class because I'm active duty. But I thought I should go ahead and take it anyway.
Well, you were taking it with your wife.
I think when the price drops in Texas, I'll take the class. Classes will fill up then, though.
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Yeah I could have skipped the class because I'm active duty. But I thought I should go ahead and take it anyway.
I did the same. It was a one on one class. We were at his indoor range. Another guy came in and was shooting hot loads in what looked like a 357.
As I was shooting I got hit in the stomach by a rebound. Scared the crap outta me. Felt like I got punched but no blood.
I dont do indoor ranges anymore.
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ping
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When I took my renewal class five years ago I was amazed at the amount of stupid questions, and sadly the inept instructor. The instructor went over what questions would be asked on the written test and let everyone keep a cheat sheet to insure all would get 100%.
When it came to the shooting portion he broke the class down to those who could only shoot five times vs those who could shoot ten. I chose the ten shot section. My pistol is a Glock 9 with a Plus Two magazine . . . when the instructor saw what I was shooting he freak out and pitched a bitch because he thought my gun would shoot less than 10 shots. Even though I told him my magazine was a Plus Two, he tried to shame me by telling everyone we could only shoot 5 times before reloading . . . I made sure to let the class know not only did the magazine in my gun hold 10 rounds, the extra magazine also held 10 bullets ~ so any time lapse was not my fault, but that of an unknowable instructor. That guy was an ass!
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I did the same. It was a one on one class. We were at his indoor range. Another guy came in and was shooting hot loads in what looked like a 357.
As I was shooting I got hit in the stomach by a rebound. Scared the crap outta me. Felt like I got punched but no blood.
I dont do indoor ranges anymore.
That's good to know because my wife and I have been frequenting an indoor rage here. Wasn't even aware that could happen.
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When I took my renewal class five years ago I was amazed at the amount of stupid questions, and sadly the inept instructor. The instructor went over what questions would be asked on the written test and let everyone keep a cheat sheet to insure all would get 100%.
When it came to the shooting portion he broke the class down to those who could only shoot five times vs those who could shoot ten. I chose the ten shot section. My pistol is a Glock 9 with a Plus Two magazine . . . when the instructor saw what I was shooting he freak out and pitched a bitch because he thought my gun would shoot less than 10 shots. Even though I told him my magazine was a Plus Two, he tried to shame me by telling everyone we could only shoot 5 times before reloading . . . I made sure to let the class know not only did the magazine in my gun hold 10 rounds, the extra magazine also held 10 bullets ~ so any time lapse was not my fault, but that of an unknowable instructor. That guy was an ass!
Sadly I've read more stories than I cared to about instructors like that.
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That's good to know because my wife and I have been frequenting an indoor rage here. Wasn't even aware that could happen.
Its one of the reasons you are supposed to wear safety glasses. Even then it is an extremely remote possibility because the ranges are designed to prevent it. Unless of course some bonehead comes in and does something stupid. The instructor knew something happened because I reacted to the hit. I picked up the still hot bullet and showed it to him. It was about the size of a quarter and nearly flat. He took one look at me and walked over and kicked the guy out.
I prefer the fresh air and additional space between shooters in the outdoor ranges.
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Its one of the reasons you are supposed to wear safety glasses. Even then it is an extremely remote possibility because the ranges are designed to prevent it. Unless of course some bonehead comes in and does something stupid. The instructor knew something happened because I reacted to the hit. I picked up the still hot bullet and showed it to him. It was about the size of a quarter and nearly flat. He took one look at me and walked over and kicked the guy out.
I prefer the fresh air and additional space between shooters in the outdoor ranges.
Yeah I prefer that too. What the hell was the guy shooting? Now I'm thinking I was very lucky a couple weeks ago when I was at the indoor range and a guy came in with a single fire M249 and started lighting it up 3 spaces down from me. They let the same guy bring a SCAR 6.8 in while we were there as well.
Glad you weren't seriously hurt.
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There was a lady selling concealed carry purses at a kiosk in the PX here.
Thanks. I was just curious -- my favorite Gun Toten' Mama purse is wearing out and I'm going to be in the market soon.
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Thanks. I was just curious -- my favorite Gun Toten' Mama purse is wearing out and I'm going to be in the market soon.
I'll try and remember to take a look at the manufacturer tonite when I get home.
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I'll try and remember to take a look at the manufacturer tonite when I get home.
You might want to be careful about taking liberties with a woman's purse. That goes double if she's packing. :laugh:
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You might want to be careful about taking liberties with a woman's purse. That goes double if she's packing. :laugh:
I learned that lesson a LONG time ago from my mom...still treat my wife's purse like there's a big ol bear trap inside that will bite me if I reach in it.
I will carefully observe the manufacturers tag on the outside of the purse from a safe distance. :silly:
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I learned that lesson a LONG time ago from my mom...still treat my wife's purse like there's a big ol bear trap inside that will bite me if I reach in it.
I will carefully observe the manufacturers tag on the outside of the purse from a safe distance. :silly:
Perfect! I didn't want to be responsible for any domestic violence incidents ...
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I learned that lesson a LONG time ago from my mom...still treat my wife's purse like there's a big ol bear trap inside that will bite me if I reach in it.
I will carefully observe the manufacturers tag on the outside of the purse from a safe distance. :silly:
That and they are like a blackhole.
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Thanks. I was just curious -- my favorite Gun Toten' Mama purse is wearing out and I'm going to be in the market soon.
Have you checked out The Well Armed Woman?
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"A couple of people...the ones that had bought their gun just to attend this class had trouble hitting a man sized silhouette at 7 yards...one lady put two round out of two magazines in the black...you need to hit 11 out of 20 to pass the range portion of the test."
Many people, maybe most, do not know how to hit a target. You must keep your eye on the target, not the gun. If you eye wavers off the target, you likely will not hit it.
You can practice by throwing a wad of paper into a trash can. If you keep your eye on the trash can, you will likely hit it. If you don't keep your eye there but look at the wad of paper when you throw, you will likely miss.
Two real life instances:
I was going fishing with my husband and he said I should practice outside with my rod and reel before we went. I said I didn't need to do that. We got to the lake, and he showed me a spot where fish would be. He said, "You are not going to hit it because you didn't practice." I threw the line out and it landed directly where he said. He said, "Damn, I had to practice a long time before I hit anything." It was eye on the target that guided that line.
I went to a gun range with my son and his wife. I was in my early fifties and that was my first time at a gun range. I had an old Colt 35 revolver. I raised the gun, used the gun sight to find the spot in the middle of the target, kept my eye on it and pulled the trigger. It went in the center of the target. My daughter-in-law said, "She shoots better than I do and we go all the time!" She was not happy with my performance.
Keep your eye on the target.
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I learned that lesson a LONG time ago from my mom...still treat my wife's purse like there's a big ol bear trap inside that will bite me if I reach in it. I will carefully observe the manufacturers tag on the outside of the purse from a safe distance. :silly:
@txradioguy
My "gun purse" is fairly large - Got it at Sam Moons which has many hundreds/likely a thousand, of purses that are cheap - can you say "China"? I paid in the $20s for this purse. It's a cowboy ornate looking purse, with an American Indian design on one side with a very large metal ornate silver cross on it. On the other side of the purse, is a zipper to the gun compartment. It would hold a fairly large gun. Fits my Ruger 38 special easily with room to spare.
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Have you checked out The Well Armed Woman?
Yes! I got a purse from there a few years back.
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@txradioguy
My "gun purse" is fairly large - Got it at Sam Moons which has many hundreds/likely a thousand, of purses that are cheap - can you say "China"? I paid in the $20s for this purse. It's a cowboy ornate looking purse, with an American Indian design on one side with a very large metal ornate silver cross on it. On the other side of the purse, is a zipper to the gun compartment. It would hold a fairly large gun. Fits my Ruger 38 special easily with room to spare.
Wow. Yeah, I paid quite a bit more than that for mine, and it hurt my frugal little soul!!
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@txradioguy
My "gun purse" is fairly large - Got it at Sam Moons which has many hundreds/likely a thousand, of purses that are cheap - can you say "China"? I paid in the $20s for this purse. It's a cowboy ornate looking purse, with an American Indian design on one side with a very large metal ornate silver cross on it. On the other side of the purse, is a zipper to the gun compartment. It would hold a fairly large gun. Fits my Ruger 38 special easily with room to spare.
@Victoria33 @Polly Ticks my wife's purse is made by Damsel In Defense
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@Victoria33 @Polly Ticks my wife's purse is made by Damsel In Defense
That's a new one for me. Thank you -- I will check it out!