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News Explodes That Donald Trump Ate Dinner With White Nationalist Nick Fuentes
By Bonchie | 12:30 PM on November 25, 2022
Ask me how much I’d like to not be writing this piece right now. Yet, the news doesn’t stop just because I don’t like it, and the internet is now ablaze with confirmation that Donald Trump had dinner with white nationalist Nick Fuentes.
Fuentes showed up on Tuesday at Mar-a-Lago with Kanye West (or Ye or whatever). As I shared in another recent piece, West put out a “debrief” describing his meeting with the former president, including an accusation that Trump badmouthed Kim Kardashian and praised Fuentes. Still, I was wishing that the reports of the white nationalist actually being there were false.
Unfortunately, they aren’t.
This source is wrong. Nick Fuentes in fact did have dinner with Trump and Kanye at Mar-a-Lago and spoke directly with the former president, per sources with direct knowledge. Story to come on @axios. https://t.co/1QK4j5WuQv
— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) November 25, 2022
There are very few mainstream media reporters I take at their word, but Jonathan Swan is one of them. If he says this happened, it happened. Besides, we already knew that Fuentes was with Kanye that night because it was on video. I had just hoped that maybe he was left in the parking lot or something.
The failure points here are almost too plentiful to keep up with. For starters, does Trump not have any staffers around him? Did none of them see Fuentes and think “maybe we should throw up a red flag on this” in an attempt to stop this dinner from occurring? It’s one thing to sit down with Kanye, who is struggling with mental illness and has a prior relationship with the former president. It’s another to have dinner with (and allegedly praise) a freaking white supremacist who denies the Holocaust.
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https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/11/25/news-explodes-that-donald-trump-ate-dinner-with-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes-n663851
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Trump Dined at Mar-a-Lago with White Nationalist, Holocaust Denier Nick Fuentes Alongside Kanye West; UPDATE – Trump Responds, ‘Had Never Met and Knew Nothing About’ Fuentes
Jerome Hudson and Matthew Boyle25 Nov 20223,503
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UPDATE: After the publication of this article, Trump’s campaign provided Breitbart News with this statement from President Trump: “Kanye West very much wanted to visit Mar-a-Lago. Our dinner meeting was intended to be Kanye and me only, but he arrived with a guest whom I had never met and knew nothing about.”
Kanye West released screenshots of text messages and a video after his dinner Tuesday night at Mar-a-Lago with former President Donald Trump that suggest in addition to dining with the rapper this week, the former president met with an openly white nationalist and Holocaust denier named Nick Fuentes.
In the video discussing the dinner the day after, West claims: “Trump is really impressed with Nick Fuentes.”
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/25/trump-dined-at-mar-a-lago-with-white-nationalist-holocaust-denier-nick-fuentes-alongside-kanye-west/
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What the hell has happened to this country? I remember when White Supremacists were Protestant and had less ethnic-sounding names, like Robert Byrd and David Duke.
To think the White Supremacy movement has lowered its purity standards to include Papists of Mexican descent. Is there no W.A.S.P. shame?
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:facepalm2:
Diitto.
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Trump in damage control mode after dinner with white nationalist
Former President Donald Trump responded after receiving backlash for dining with white nationalist Nick Fuentes at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida on Tuesday, saying he "didn’t know Nick Fuentes."
Trump called the dinner "quick and uneventful," saying he "got along great" with Kanye West, who reportedly brought the white nationalist as his dinner guest. He added that the rapper "expressed no anti-Semitism."
"We got along great, he expressed no anti-Semitism, & I appreciated all of the nice things he said about me on 'Tucker Carlson.' Why wouldn’t I agree to meet?" he wrote on Truth Social of West, who now goes by Ye.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-dines-with-nick-fuentes-mar-a-lago
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Maybe I'm missing something, but does "White nationalist" equal "White supremacist"?
According to Wiki,the answer isn't straightforward, and there is overlap, but the two are only the same thing depending on the person who espouses beliefs using the term.
The media, of course, willfully uses the terms interchangeably, even when the people they are talking about are no more racist than any other group of people wanting to preserve their cultural norms and customs.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but does "White nationalist" equal "White supremacist"?
Uhhh, yeah, white nationalists generally see whites as inferior to everyone else.
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Uhhh, yeah, white nationalists generally see whites as inferior to everyone else.
Well, let me put it this way.
I'm "white". Big surprise.
I am all for preserving the traditions and culture I grew up in.
I don't want Sharia law, I don't like hip-hop/rap, and while I like food from a wide variety of cultures, I must note that lutefisk did not make the hit list, any more than tamales (too starchy for me), although I'd eat tamales before i ate lutefisk again.
That said, and being a straight, Christian, white male, I must observe there is a cultural war being waged against all four of those facets of my existence. Preserving my own culture and traditions is not claiming necessarily that they are the very best of everything, or that I should rule the world, just that I believe that, in a country whose legal and philosophical foundations were laid by people of my ilk, I would prefer to see those traditions upheld.
I don't want to enslave or own anyone, or force anyone to do things my way, but it's nice not being on the sh*t end of the cultural stick, either. The best way to have that is to have a country that upholds those values. That's one of the reasons Israel was formed, to do the same for the Jewish people, because they had suffered so much oppression elsewhere. I just don't want my culture to be subjected to the same depredations, hence believe in a justice system and Constitution founded on the basis of Western European philosophies, and Christian thought.
In a sense, because I believe the world would be poorer for the lack of that, I suppose I am a nationalist, and though my cultural ties to my genetics factor in, I an no racist, I just believe the results of that heritage, when implemented as intended, are superior to what other countries have and want to preserve that.
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All I know about this Nick Fuentes as he was saying in a recent video we should elect Trump and make him dictator, which is idiotic. Also he looks like he's 10 years old.
I'm not optimistic about 2024 at this point. Even if we pick someone like Desantis, Trump will be a major distraction along the way...
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Well, let me put it this way.
I'm "white". Big surprise.
I am all for preserving the traditions and culture I grew up in.
I don't want Sharia law, I don't like hip-hop/rap, and while I like food from a wide variety of cultures, I must note that lutefisk did not make the hit list, any more than tamales (too starchy for me), although I'd eat tamales before i ate lutefisk again.
That said, and being a straight, Christian, white male, I must observe there is a cultural war being waged against all four of those facets of my existence. Preserving my own culture and traditions is not claiming necessarily that they are the very best of everything, or that I should rule the world, just that I believe that, in a country whose legal and philosophical foundations were laid by people of my ilk, I would prefer to see those traditions upheld.
I don't want to enslave or own anyone, or force anyone to do things my way, but it's nice not being on the sh*t end of the cultural stick, either. The best way to have that is to have a country that upholds those values. That's one of the reasons Israel was formed, to do the same for the Jewish people, because they had suffered so much oppression elsewhere. I just don't want my culture to be subjected to the same depredations, hence believe in a justice system and Constitution founded on the basis of Western European philosophies, and Christian thought.
In a sense, because I believe the world would be poorer for the lack of that, I suppose I am a nationalist, and though my cultural ties to my genetics factor in, I an no racist, I just believe the results of that heritage, when implemented as intended, are superior to what other countries have and want to preserve that.
Whatever, chief. White nationalists are bigots and supremacists. If you what to play cute little rhetorical games to justify it, so be it. Mr. Fuentes is also an antisemite and a Holocaust denier, so he’s not just some dude who’s proud of his roots.
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Trump has an apparent weakness for the extreme right conspiracy crowd: q-Anon, Proud Boys, etc. What I see is that Trump apparently believes these folks are his biggest supporters, and they may well be. But they are also baggage that prevents him from being able to appeal to mainstream Americans, and even some Republicans.
These characters on the far right have always been an anvil around the neck of the GOP. I do not think these kooks need to be shed completely (after all, the Dems would never shed their leftist kooks). But they need to be kept at a distance. Trump seems to be tone deaf when it comes to these people.
That said, it looks like he was played by Kanye here.
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Trump has an apparent weakness for the extreme right conspiracy crowd: q-Anon, Proud Boys, etc. What I see is that Trump apparently believes these folks are his biggest supporters, and they may well be. But they are also baggage that prevents him from being able to appeal to mainstream Americans, and even some Republicans.
These characters on the far right have always been an anvil around the neck of the GOP. I do not think these kooks need to be shed completely (after all, the Dems would never shed their leftist kooks). But they need to kept at a distance. Trump seems to be tone deaf when it comes to these people.
That said, it looks like he was played by Kanye here.
Trump has to have major security that would have vetted anyone entering his home.
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Trump has to have major security that would have vetted anyone entering his home.
You would be surprised. In Trump's case, the Secret Service is not going to warn him about Fuentes being a white nationalist, so long as he is no security threat. In fact, they probably let him straight in, knowing the political scandal it would cause. The Democrat Party has corrupted all federal law enforcement, including and especially the detail around Trump. You can be sure of that.
Trump being a notorious cheapskate, he probably still relies on the Secret Service. But they are not going to protect Trump from himself.
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It's well known on this forum that I am not a Trump fan, but I don't think Trump is a racist or a hater. He's just so obsessed with himself that he allows himself to be played by scoundrels like West and Fuentes who shine up to him.
How Trump cannot realize that associating with anti-Semites and white supremacists hurts him is unfathomable. :shrug:
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Trump faces backlash for hosting dinner with white supremacist Nick Fuentes: ‘Unacceptable conduct’
Former President Donald Trump has been roundly criticized for having dinner this week with Kanye West and Nick Fuentes, a white supremacist leader and Holocaust denier.
Trump hosted the pair at his home Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Fla., the former president confirmed in a post on Truth Social. Downplaying the encounter, he said the rapper, now known as Ye, “unexpectedly showed up with three of his friends, whom I knew nothing about."
“We had dinner on Tuesday evening with many members present on the back patio. The dinner was quick and uneventful. They then left for the airport,” Trump posted.
According to Trump, Ye asked him for business advice and the two “got along great.” He said Ye “expressed no anti-Semitism, & I appreciated all of the nice things he said about me on ‘Tucker Carlson.’.........
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-nick-fuentes-kanye-west-white-supremacist-dinner-161002615.html
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Well, let me put it this way.
I'm "white". Big surprise.
I am all for preserving the traditions and culture I grew up in.
I don't want Sharia law, I don't like hip-hop/rap, and while I like food from a wide variety of cultures, I must note that lutefisk did not make the hit list, any more than tamales (too starchy for me), although I'd eat tamales before i ate lutefisk again.
That said, and being a straight, Christian, white male, I must observe there is a cultural war being waged against all four of those facets of my existence. Preserving my own culture and traditions is not claiming necessarily that they are the very best of everything, or that I should rule the world, just that I believe that, in a country whose legal and philosophical foundations were laid by people of my ilk, I would prefer to see those traditions upheld.
I don't want to enslave or own anyone, or force anyone to do things my way, but it's nice not being on the sh*t end of the cultural stick, either. The best way to have that is to have a country that upholds those values. That's one of the reasons Israel was formed, to do the same for the Jewish people, because they had suffered so much oppression elsewhere. I just don't want my culture to be subjected to the same depredations, hence believe in a justice system and Constitution founded on the basis of Western European philosophies, and Christian thought.
In a sense, because I believe the world would be poorer for the lack of that, I suppose I am a nationalist, and though my cultural ties to my genetics factor in, I an no racist, I just believe the results of that heritage, when implemented as intended, are superior to what other countries have and want to preserve that.
I'm white too. And I really don't give a sh*t about any culture but my own either, with the exception I suppose, of native elements that I see as natural or complimentary to my culture, and whatever Canuck influences that bleed across the border (which is about the same thing), and whatever Latino that blows up this way from the Desert Southwest... Of course I prefer what I know.
That also comes with a strong sense of pride in this nation, and her accomplishments.
I would even suggest that the white culture that has spawned the US in all its variety, namely Western Civ, and the Christianity that drives it is provably superior to other other cultures, at least in its ability to make men free and lift them far above the poverty that has plagued mankind throughout its history.
I guess that makes me a white nationalist and white supremacist, huh?
Of course the opposite of that, which seems to be all the rage, is to necessarily deny those proofs, and the God that stands behind them, to embrace lesser cultures that have no such proofs, and the gods that hide behind secular humanism instead... Or to falsely embrace a different culture that is not my own. All of which, any of which, would be an absurdity.
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Whatever, chief. White nationalists are bigots and supremacists. If you what to play cute little rhetorical games to justify it, so be it. Mr. Fuentes is also an antisemite and a Holocaust denier, so he’s not just some dude who’s proud of his roots.
So he is part of the overlap.
I'm not antisemetic, and I hate no one, but I'm making neither apologies for nor concessions in my heritage. It's the one that produced things like the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
You do you, I'll do me.
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So he is part of the overlap.
I'm not antisemetic, and I hate no one, but I'm making neither apologies for nor concessions in my heritage. It's the one that produced things like the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
You do you, I'll do me.
Whatever assuages your ego, chief.
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It's well known on this forum that I am not a Trump fan, but I don't think Trump is a racist or a hater. He's just so obsessed with himself that he allows himself to be played by scoundrels like West and Fuentes who shine up to him.
How Trump cannot realize that associating with anti-Semites and white supremacists hurts him is unfathomable. :shrug:
Plus, unlike Biden or any Democrat, he has a hostile media waiting to pounce on every misstep he takes.
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So he is part of the overlap.
I'm not antisemetic, and I hate no one, but I'm making neither apologies for nor concessions in my heritage. It's the one that produced things like the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
You do you, I'll do me.
Amen!!!
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Lol, after Kanye West asked Trump to be HIS VP, I am sure things didn't go well... and even Kanyee is admitting Trump got loud after that happened...
I always said K.W. was a loose cannon that should be avoided, but some Trumpist played along with Trump's dream of being popular and tolerated West.... Now we have K.W. in cahoots with Nick Fuentes... just wow... what was Trump thinking (other than about himself).
Only the best... yet I imagine about 99% of these social media "stars" are fully nuts and full of themselves almost as much as Trump is.
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Fuentes is misguided, and I he grows out of it, but Trump’s handlers should have known who he was. Donald clearly lacks the ability to distance himself from his white supremacist fringe. He is too elderly and insulated by yes-men to understand why this a problem.
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I guess a public figure should only talk with those that agree with them.. Seems to me that is how we got here...
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He'll get away with it.
There is nothing that he can do that will cause his base, which still, like it or not, makes up a huge chunk of the Republican Party (enough to have a lock on the primary process) and will utterly refuse to listen to anyone, anything, or any entity that speaks negatively of the man, to abandon him.
The Trump movement has never been about anything except a cult of personality, and anything to the contrary is nothing more than an excuse.
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Plus, unlike Biden or any Democrat, he has a hostile media waiting to pounce on every misstep he takes.
@LMAO
HAY!
Wade a minit hear!
Are yew tryin ta claim that Slow Joe iz sumhow mentaily dafective,n dat the press,providid by nowon less than Gawd Hisself,iz cuverin for him?
Why ah neva!
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Nick Fuentes: “Don’t Think He (Trump) Knew That I Was Me At The Dinner”
Mike Jenkins November 27, 2022
Former President Donald Trump had dinner with rapper Kanye West and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes at his Mar-a-Lago estate late last week.
But Fuentes says he doesn’t think Trump knew who he was, at least at dinner.
“We had a very interesting dinner, which I’m sure you’ve all read about,” Fuentes said Friday on his podcast about the get-together Tuesday with his friend Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, and Trump.
“I have to say about the events of the last week, I’m a little bit embarrassed in a certain sense because, you know, this has become a little bit of a scandal for President Trump,” Fuentes said.
“I don’t think he knew that I was me at the dinner” — at least initially, Fuentes said with a laugh. “Let’s put it that way. I don’t know if I’m gonna say he didn’t know me. I’m not sure about that.”
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https://www.tampafp.com/nick-fuentes-dont-think-he-trump-knew-that-i-was-me-at-the-dinner/
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Nick Fuentes: “Don’t Think He (Trump) Knew That I Was Me At The Dinner”
Mike Jenkins November 27, 2022
Former President Donald Trump had dinner with rapper Kanye West and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes at his Mar-a-Lago estate late last week.
But Fuentes says he doesn’t think Trump knew who he was, at least at dinner.
“We had a very interesting dinner, which I’m sure you’ve all read about,” Fuentes said Friday on his podcast about the get-together Tuesday with his friend Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, and Trump.
“I have to say about the events of the last week, I’m a little bit embarrassed in a certain sense because, you know, this has become a little bit of a scandal for President Trump,” Fuentes said.
“I don’t think he knew that I was me at the dinner” — at least initially, Fuentes said with a laugh. “Let’s put it that way. I don’t know if I’m gonna say he didn’t know me. I’m not sure about that.”
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https://www.tampafp.com/nick-fuentes-dont-think-he-trump-knew-that-i-was-me-at-the-dinner/
Which says absolutely nothing complementary for the people managing Trump's schedule.
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He'll get away with it.
There is nothing that he can do that will cause his base, which still, like it or not, makes up a huge chunk of the Republican Party (enough to have a lock on the primary process) and will utterly refuse to listen to anyone, anything, or any entity that speaks negatively of the man, to abandon him.
The Trump movement has never been about anything except a cult of personality, and anything to the contrary is nothing more than an excuse.
You don’t seem to understand that he’s playing(insert number here) dimensional chess
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These kind of bonehead errors just push more people into the camp of my Presidential choice, Gov. Ron DeSantis.
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These kind of bonehead errors just push more people into the camp of my Presidential choice, Gov. Ron DeSantis.
Trump was always a clown but in 2016 he did novel things like say he only made fun of Rosie O'Donnell (the one moment I can think of where I thought to myself I bet he wins the nomination), he won the people over. That was a novel approach then. Not so much anymore I don't think.
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So whoever said overnight wins the pot!
https://thehill.com/homenews/3751785-trump-blames-kanye-west-for-bringing-nick-fuentes-as-dinner-guest/
Former President Trump on Saturday said Ye, the rapper formerly known as Kanye West, is a “seriously troubled man” who he was trying to help, but also blamed the controversial musician for a dinner in which Trump says Ye brought along a known white supremacist.
Trump said on Truth Social that Ye brought far-right activist Nick Fuentes to the dinner on Tuesday night and that he did not know who Fuentes was.
“So I help a seriously troubled man, who just happens to be black, Ye (Kanye West), who has been decimated in his business and virtually everything else,” Trump wrote, “and who has always been good to me, by allowing his request for a meeting at Mar-a-Lago, alone, so that I can give him very much needed ‘advice.'”
“He shows up with 3 people, two of which I didn’t know, the other a political person who I haven’t seen in years,” the former president added. “I told him don’t run for office, a total waste of time, can’t win. Fake News went CRAZY!”
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Ambassador David Friedman to Trump on Kanye West and Fuentes: ‘Throw Those Bums Out’
Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David M. Friedman urged former President Donald Trump to disavow Kanye West and Nick Fuentes, two known antisemites who attended a private dinner at Mar-a-Lago earlier this week.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/27/ambassador-david-friedman-to-trump-on-kanye-west-and-fuentes-throw-those-bums-out/
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You don’t seem to understand that he’s playing(insert number here) dimensional chess
It's the Never Trump media ginning all this up. :whistle:
It'll be interesting to see if our resident shills show up for damage control —they're eerily silent right now.
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He'll get away with it.
There is nothing that he can do that will cause his base, which still, like it or not, makes up a huge chunk of the Republican Party (enough to have a lock on the primary process) and will utterly refuse to listen to anyone, anything, or any entity that speaks negatively of the man, to abandon him.
The Trump movement has never been about anything except a cult of personality, and anything to the contrary is nothing more than an excuse.
Not too long ago I would disagree with you, but you are correct. It is very unfortunate as the leftists are determined to ensure that he won't run in '24. Trump also tends to create much of his own drama. I still feel that he did well as our president, but it is time for him to pass the torch onto someone else before he completely fractures the GOP voting base and ruins any chance of them taking the oval office.
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Nick Fuentes?
A "white nationalist"?
Never heard of him.
Now if Mr. Trump would really like to be educated on White Nationalism, he ought to host dinner with gentlemen like Jared Taylor and Gregory Hood...
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I was at the gym and, of course, CNN was all over the story with Jim Acosta(sp) with a very concerned look on his face over this and they also threw in the "Very fine people" hoax
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Nick Fuentes?
A "white nationalist"?
Never heard of him.
Now if Mr. Trump would really like to be educated on White Nationalism, he ought to host dinner with gentlemen like Jared Taylor and Gregory Hood...
@Fishrrman
Are they "important" Kluxxers/Neo-Nazi's?
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Three days later, and nary a cross word from the Donald. Stand By Your Klan
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@DefiantMassRINO The correct term is Catholic. I hear rumors that your bigotry is still tolerated/ welcomed at TOS.
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Three days later, and nary a cross word from the Donald. Stand By Your Klan
He actually threw Kanye under the bus for embarrassing him.
Trump blames Kanye West for bringing Nick Fuentes as dinner guest
https://thehill.com/homenews/3751785-trump-blames-kanye-west-for-bringing-nick-fuentes-as-dinner-guest/
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109412757444768475
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Meanwhile, Ron DeSantis keeps smoothly governing the state of Florida.
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Three days later, and nary a cross word from the Donald. Stand By Your Klan
It's amaing how little you are aware of........and proudly so. :laugh:
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Nick Fuentes: “Don’t Think He (Trump) Knew That I Was Me At The Dinner”
Mike Jenkins November 27, 2022
“I don’t think he knew that I was me at the dinner” — at least initially, Fuentes said with a laugh. “Let’s put it that way. I don’t know if I’m gonna say he didn’t know me.
Why would President Trump, or any adult with both a life and a working frontal lobe, know you ---- a 24 year old blogger or something? :shrug:
But, apparently Trump haters know you ----- they'll forever love and thank you for your service to their cause.
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Why would President Trump, or any adult with both a life and a working frontal lobe, know you ---- a 24 year old blogger or something? :shrug:
But, apparently Trump haters know you ----- they'll forever love and thank you for your service to their cause.
How is it Trump has no security to find out who's coming into his home for dinner? That's a major failure all by itself.
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How is it Trump has no security to find out who's coming into his home for dinner? That's a major failure all by itself.
Actually unlikely... There's a SKIF onsite. Security is bound to be tight as all get out.
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How is it Trump has no security to find out who's coming into his home for dinner? That's a major failure all by itself.
Good question.
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Actually unlikely... There's a SKIF onsite. Security is bound to be tight as all get out.
Yes, but the claim is nobody knew anything about the stranger that he dined with... Which isn't credible.
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How is it Trump has no security to find out who's coming into his home for dinner? That's a major failure all by itself.
Another “I only hire the best people” moment, perhaps.
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Yes, but the claim is nobody knew anything about the stranger that he dined with... Which isn't credible.
My comment was in support of that statement. happy77
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Yes, but the claim is nobody knew anything about the stranger that he dined with... Which isn't credible.
Agreed.
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Yes, but the claim is nobody knew anything about the stranger that he dined with... Which isn't credible.
Why? @DB
A 24 year old 'friend' is brought as a guest ----- without advanced notice or permission. Once the vetters scrambled and found the kid and what he's been saying, they were asked to leave.
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He'll get away with it.
There is nothing that he can do that will cause his base, which still, like it or not, makes up a huge chunk of the Republican Party (enough to have a lock on the primary process) and will utterly refuse to listen to anyone, anything, or any entity that speaks negatively of the man, to abandon him.
The Trump movement has never been about anything except a cult of personality, and anything to the contrary is nothing more than an excuse.
"The Trump movement has never been about anything except a cult of personality"
I've said the same thing and have gotten excoriated for it. I've never seen any politician get the adoration Trump got from his cult. Not even Obama.
I thought conservative Republicans would be immune to idolizing any politician and excusing mistakes and bad actions.
I was wrong. Trump's cult might be diminishing, but it's still there. He still has many diehards who think he can win in 2024. He'd get whipped worse than he did in 2020. Far worse.
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Nick Fuentes?
A "white nationalist"?
Never heard of him.
Now if Mr. Trump would really like to be educated on White Nationalism, he ought to host dinner with gentlemen like Jared Taylor and Gregory Hood...
What is he going to learn from those two? Separating the races is a good idea?
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It's amaing how little you are aware of........and proudly so. :laugh:
Do tell, o wise trumplady. Thus far, we know Donald is mildly frustrated with anti-Semite Kanye ... for daring to suggest Trump should be his #2. I have not read any comments from Trump on Fuentes, other than he doesn't know who he is (sort of like he developed amnesia with David Duke).
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Why? @DB
A 24 year old 'friend' is brought as a guest ----- without advanced notice or permission. Once the vetters scrambled and found the kid and what he's been saying, they were asked to leave.
...and there it is. Took that long to get your talking points, huh? Man, things are slipping.
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No worries...Trump now has new rules. *****rollingeyes*****
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,485920.0.html
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@DefiantMassRINO The correct term is Catholic. I hear rumors that your bigotry is still tolerated/ welcomed at TOS.
Rumors? What is this, High School? If aspersions are to be cast, please attribute them to their source by name.
I have been repremanded by a moderator for my comment.
The moderators do not tolerate bigotry and personal attacks. They try to walk the razor's edge between civility and censorship and cancel culture. I have been reprimanded, and appropriately so. The moderators do not deserve to be cast with asperions of tolerating bigotry.
What someone else thinks of me is none of my business.
I am Irish Catholic. I am aware that Papist is a historical perjeorative slur against Catholic by nativist Protestant bigots.
I was raised amongst an Irish-American community that was historically targeted by nativist Protestant bigots for violence and discrimination - Irish Need Not Apply.
That community uses self-depricating humor when referencing histocic nativist Protestant bigotry.
I was baptized Catholic. I received First Penance and First Communion. I chose not to be Confirmed because of my conscientious disagreement with Catholic dogma and conduct of Catholic hierarchy. I attended a parochial grammar school run by the Sisters of St. Joseph for 8 years. I attended a Catholic highschool run by the Jesuits for 4 years.
Often, accusations of bigtory, racism, homophobia, xeonphobia, transphobia, etc., are made by opponents of conservatism to stifle debate and discusion of contentious social, political, and economic issues. Opponents of conservatism attempt to limit and control language so they can also limit and control discussion, debate, thought, and opinion.
The forum and its moderators allow me the rope with which I may rhetorically hang myself. My comments are reflection of me, and only me; not them.
I will add "Papist" to my list of no-no words to no longer cause offense.
I was attempting to make the point that white nativist Protestants bigots, ironically, might consider Mr. Fuentes to not be "white" enough because of his lineage and faith. This also makes Mr. Fuentes a hypocrite because he does not meet the traditional membership requirements of the hateful communities that he evangelizes. In short, Mr. Fuentes is not white enough nor Protestant enough to be a traditional White Supremacist or a White Nationalist.
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How is it Trump has no security to find out who's coming into his home for dinner? That's a major failure all by itself.
Trump was advised by security and he rebuffed their advice.
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I was baptized Catholic.
@DefiantMassRINO Then start acting like it. And for the record anyone with an IQ above room temperature was not a shot at the mods.
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1598404722708582400
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Whether or not it was a set up, did Trump really think that a complete stranger who he knew nothing about was just paying him a friendly visit? That's quite a dangerous assumption, especially being the ever so popular past-president that he is.
Frankly, I'm much more interested in the 5 Secret Service rental cars that blew up.
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Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
We brought two uninvited guests to dinner at Mar-a-Lago
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11:00 AM · Dec 4, 2022