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Title: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: mystery-ak on August 08, 2020, 05:31:18 pm
Hannah Bleau 8 Aug 2020

One in three Americans would not get a free, FDA-approved vaccine for the Chinese coronavirus, a Gallup poll released Friday revealed.

While a majority indicated they would agree to be vaccinated, a sizeable portion of Americans indicated they would not.

“If an FDA-approved vaccine to prevent coronavirus/COVID-19 was available right now at no cost, would you agree to be vaccinated?” Gallup asked.

Sixty-five percent of all Americans said yes, compared to 35 percent who said no.

The decision to get a vaccine appears to correspond strongly with political parties. A vast majority of Democrats, 81 percent, said they would get a vaccine, as did 59 percent of independents. However, a majority of Republicans, 53 percent, indicated they would not get the vaccination, compared to 47 percent of Republicans who said they would.

A majority in every age range indicated they would agree to the vaccination, although those 18-29 hold the biggest majority, 74 percent saying they would get the vaccination, despite their status as one of the lowest-risk age groups. Seventy percent of those 65 and older, the highest-risk age group, said they would get it.

The survey, conducted July 20-August 2 among 7,632 U.S. adults, has a margin of error of +/- 2 percent.

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Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Bigun on August 08, 2020, 05:31:55 pm
I'm in that one third for sure!
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: roamer_1 on August 08, 2020, 05:40:17 pm
Not a single chance in hell. From a religious position alone, it ain't going to be kosher.

*JUST* from the bare fact that they are downplaying readily available and extremely cheap alternatives is the tell.

Add in the relationship between Gates and Fauxi, and it starts stinking to high heaven. It is entirely predictable that the winner in the game to produce a vaccine is going to be Gates. It is also highly likely that the government will force compliance upon those who won't, without exception. No buy or sell without the 'mark' as we are already seeing with masks.

Time to draw another hard line.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: DB on August 08, 2020, 06:13:57 pm
Well for starters those that already have antibodies for it don't need it.

And that number is likely much larger than anyone knows.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: WarmPotato on August 08, 2020, 08:00:00 pm
Who even answers these gallup polls??
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: DB on August 08, 2020, 08:52:56 pm
Who even answers these gallup polls??

I hang up.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 08, 2020, 09:16:32 pm
I hang up.

I don't answer. 
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: DB on August 08, 2020, 09:28:06 pm
I don't answer.

Home office.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 08, 2020, 09:30:25 pm
Home office.

Ah!  Say no more.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 08, 2020, 10:47:18 pm
I'm not.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: 240B on August 08, 2020, 11:18:56 pm
Who even answers these gallup polls??
They are needy people who want to "change the world" and shape public opinion while justifying their own beliefs. Likely about 80% raving Liberals, since that is what defines being a Liberal.
Why do all polls slant heavily Liberal? Because they are the only ones who have the time and motivation to answer.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: libertybele on August 08, 2020, 11:22:32 pm
FDA approved "free" vaccine for the coronavirus ....say no more.  Count me completely out.  I'll take my chances without it.  I was always taught that nothing in life is "free"!
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: 240B on August 08, 2020, 11:40:13 pm
(https://www.smalldogplace.com/images/microchips.jpg)
The size of the needle is the only difference.
And it is very likely that could change.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 08, 2020, 11:42:16 pm
The Maskholes will line up for the shot.  Bless their covid dead hearts.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: DB on August 08, 2020, 11:51:06 pm
The Maskholes will line up for the shot.  Bless their covid dead hearts.

(https://www.jimchines.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Mask-Fence-246x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: libertybele on August 08, 2020, 11:54:02 pm
(https://www.smalldogplace.com/images/microchips.jpg)
The size of the needle is the only difference.
And it is very likely that could change.

Bill Gates denies conspiracy theories that say he wants to use coronavirus vaccines to implant tracking devices

I've thought Bill Gates to be an evil, evil man for quite sometime.  I'm not buying his denial.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/22/bill-gates-denies-conspiracy-theories-that-say-he-wants-to-use-coronavirus-vaccines-to-implant-tracking-devices.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/22/bill-gates-denies-conspiracy-theories-that-say-he-wants-to-use-coronavirus-vaccines-to-implant-tracking-devices.html)

Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2020, 12:01:40 am
(https://www.jimchines.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Mask-Fence-246x300.jpg)

I was out today.  Back in my day people burned bra's and we had free sex.  Today we wear a mask and what do we get?   bleep in the ass.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 09, 2020, 04:50:34 am
FDA approved "free" vaccine for the coronavirus ....say no more.  Count me completely out.  I'll take my chances without it.  I was always taught that nothing in life is "free"!

A Cyber Slogan:  "Nothing in life is as expensive as that which can be obtained for free."
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Fishrrman on August 09, 2020, 06:35:02 pm
Well, I'll go against the grain.

I'll get the vaccine.
But not right away.
I want to hang back a couple of months, to see what reactions it produces in others.
If it looks to be relatively low-risk, I'll line up for it.

I've had all kinds of inoculations in recent times. The only one that gave me any trouble was the "new" 2-part shingles vaccine (which has to be taken a couple of months apart). Woke up in the middle of the night (after each shot) with chills and shakes. But they faded away quickly, was back to normal by the next day.

One other thing...
What's caught my eye are the articles that suggest that the antibodies people develop from C-19 aren't "permanent", that they begin to "fade away" several months after having recovered from the disease.

I wonder if the protection the vaccine provides will offer only a "limited protection lifespan"?
It might be necessary to take a yearly "booster" to have efficacy over the long-term...
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: DB on August 09, 2020, 06:39:58 pm
Well, I'll go against the grain.

I'll get the vaccine.
But not right away.
I want to hang back a couple of months, to see what reactions it produces in others.
If it looks to be relatively low-risk, I'll line up for it.

I've had all kinds of inoculations in recent times. The only one that gave me any trouble was the "new" 2-part shingles vaccine (which has to be taken a couple of months apart). Woke up in the middle of the night (after each shot) with chills and shakes. But they faded away quickly, was back to normal by the next day.

One other thing...
What's caught my eye are the articles that suggest that the antibodies people develop from C-19 aren't "permanent", that they begin to "fade away" several months after having recovered from the disease.

I wonder if the protection the vaccine provides will offer only a "limited protection lifespan"?
It might be necessary to take a yearly "booster" to have efficacy over the long-term...

I'm not buying that story about it fading in months but we'll have to wait and see. There are many possible explanations to make it look that way but not actually be true.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2020, 06:43:40 pm
Quote
One other thing...
What's caught my eye are the articles that suggest that the antibodies people develop from C-19 aren't "permanent", that they begin to "fade away" several months after having recovered from the disease.

I don't believe that for a second.   
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 09, 2020, 06:48:36 pm
One other thing...
What's caught my eye are the articles that suggest that the antibodies people develop from C-19 aren't "permanent", that they begin to "fade away" several months after having recovered from the disease.

I wonder if the protection the vaccine provides will offer only a "limited protection lifespan"?
It might be necessary to take a yearly "booster" to have efficacy over the long-term...

The immunity wouldn't "fade away," but it's more likely the bug will mutate, rendering any previous vaccinations ineffective. :shrug:
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2020, 06:51:27 pm
The immunity wouldn't "fade away," but it's more likely the bug will mutate, rendering any previous vaccinations ineffective. :shrug:

It has been mutating.  Mutating to a less virulent strain. 
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 09, 2020, 06:54:23 pm
It has been mutating.  Mutating to a less virulent strain.

Shhh! That discovery isn't due out until November 4th.  You'll give away the game!
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2020, 07:00:18 pm
Shhh! That discovery isn't due out until November 4th.  You'll give away the game!

Opps.  I guess the part about having a common cold also protects your from getting the China Virus is to be kept hush hush too?
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 09, 2020, 08:21:02 pm
One other thing...
What's caught my eye are the articles that suggest that the antibodies people develop from C-19 aren't "permanent", that they begin to "fade away" several months after having recovered from the disease.

I wonder if the protection the vaccine provides will offer only a "limited protection lifespan"?
It might be necessary to take a yearly "booster" to have efficacy over the long-term...
In terms of antibodies, that at least partially appears to be true, though some of the evidence of that is anecdotal (such as the story out of Madrid that found high rates of infection but low antibody positives—they presumed the antibodies must have faded, but had no evidence to back that up).

But the good news is that coronavirus immunity does not appear to be driven by antibodies—instead, it's the T-cells that recognize the virus. T-cell recognition not only appears to last decades, but they also seem to respond to a broad spectrum of coronavirus strains, reducing the likelihood that mutation will spoil any efforts at herd immunity. (Antibodies, on the other hand, tend to be much more narrow in their scope.)
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 09, 2020, 08:22:40 pm


But the good news is that coronavirus immunity does not appear to be driven by antibodies—instead, it's the T-cells that recognize the virus. T-cell recognition not only appears to last decades, but they also seem to respond to a broad spectrum of coronavirus strains, reducing the likelihood that mutation will spoil any efforts at herd immunity. (Antibodies, on the other hand, tend to be much more narrow in their scope.)

Bingo! 
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 09, 2020, 08:45:59 pm
So...this virus isn't being handled any better, or worse than the rest of them in antiquity?  The primary difference is the level of political noise, and it's panicking the population.  See who benefits from that and you have your culprit.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Bigun on August 09, 2020, 09:00:21 pm
So...this virus isn't being handled any better, or worse than the rest of them in antiquity?  The primary difference is the level of political noise, and it's panicking the population.  See who benefits from that and you have your culprit.

B I N G O ! ! !
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 09, 2020, 09:06:34 pm
B I N G O ! ! !

I've been known to swerve into the truth every great once in a while.... 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: DB on August 09, 2020, 09:17:02 pm
I've been known to swerve into the truth every great once in a while.... 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo

A shit storm was coming no matter what anyone did. There was no magic wand to make it go away. There was no keeping it out. We're just fodder for politics.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: truth_seeker on August 09, 2020, 10:05:04 pm
Anecdotal life experience:

All childhood vacinnes

Polio childhood when it was new


All military vaccines

All recommended adult vaccines (flu pneumonia)

Never heard of problems with my family members

VERSUS

Internet conspiracy theorists who  think Bill Gates is trying to get more wealthy, by killing people (potential customers)?



Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Wingnut on August 10, 2020, 12:11:24 am
Anecdotal life experience:

All childhood vacinnes

Polio childhood when it was new


All military vaccines

All recommended adult vaccines (flu pneumonia)

Never heard of problems with my family members

VERSUS

Internet conspiracy theorists who  think Bill Gates is trying to get more wealthy, by killing people (potential customers)?

Interesting. 
My thoughts on the subject is...  Thank God for Jonas Edward Salk who developed one of the first successful polio vaccines.

In modern times we do not have to worry about small pox thanks to Edward Jenner.

Please forgive me if I say any of these modern asshats can take there vaccine and shoot it up there you no what. 
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: libertybele on August 10, 2020, 12:22:52 am
Interesting. 
My thoughts on the subject is...  Thank God for Jonas Edward Salk who developed one of the first successful polio vaccines.

In modern times we do not have to worry about small pox thanks to Edward Jenner.

Please forgive me if I say any of these modern asshats can take there vaccine and shoot it up there you no what.

You are right ... why should any of us trust these modern day azzes?  Lots of rumors swirling surrounding the expedited vaccine(s).   There is a "global vaccine foundation" that Bill Gates is in part funding -- lots of rumors swirling around about him as well.

I'm good.  I think I can do without.  I've done without the flu vaccine and I'm still breathing.  I trust NO one, especially now that our fine governor DeSantis has given authority to his Secy of health to mandate and force quarantines and vaccines.  Lovely!
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: roamer_1 on August 10, 2020, 12:32:35 am
You are right ... why should any of us trust these modern day azzes?  Lots of rumors swirling surrounding the expedited vaccine(s).   There is a "global vaccine foundation" that Bill Gates is in part funding -- lots of rumors swirling around about him as well.

I'm good.  I think I can do without.  I've done without the flu vaccine and I'm still breathing.  I trust NO one, especially now that our fine governor DeSantis has given authority to his Secy of health to mandate and force quarantines and vaccines.  Lovely!

I will GUARANTEE that one of Gates' companies will find the miracle cure... and then you will know the fix is in. Furthermore, it will not be a single dose... it will take 'boosters' because a fast-morphing virus is impossible to vaccinate against... And if it becomes mandated, with no right to enter businesses without it... hoo boy, the clamp will be complete. Already they are forcing folks out of cash and onto plastic, where every purchase can be tracked... Then a mandatory injection every six months or so, or you can;t do business or have a job...

How hard are you to blackball then? Bend a knee or head for the hills and all the hardship that will bring... Most will bend the knee.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: 240B on August 10, 2020, 12:47:47 am
I will GUARANTEE that one of Gates' companies will find the miracle cure... and then you will know the fix is in. Furthermore, it will not be a single dose... it will take 'boosters' because a fast-morphing virus is impossible to vaccinate against... And if it becomes mandated, with no right to enter businesses without it... hoo boy, the clamp will be complete. Already they are forcing folks out of cash and onto plastic, where every purchase can be tracked... Then a mandatory injection every six months or so, or you can;t do business or have a job...

How hard are you to blackball then? Bend a knee or head for the hills and all the hardship that will bring... Most will bend the knee.
They already setting the foundation for multiple shots. One shot would be too simple. They want to keep everything as complicated as possible to keep everybody tense and off-balance.

If we lose the election and Democrats are in charge again. America is truly finished.
That is not rhetoric. That is true fact.

Don't know what we will become, but it will be some kind of post-apocalyptic nightmare. We are halfway there already.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: roamer_1 on August 10, 2020, 01:03:52 am
They already setting the foundation for multiple shots. One shot would be too simple. They want to keep everything as complicated as possible to keep everybody tense and off-balance.

If we lose the election and Democrats are in charge again. America is truly finished.
That is not rhetoric. That is true fact.

Don't know what we will become, but it will be some kind of post-apocalyptic nightmare. We are halfway there already.

Doesn't matter which side wins... It is coming either way.
Title: Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
Post by: Bigun on August 10, 2020, 02:49:23 am
You are right ... why should any of us trust these modern day azzes?  Lots of rumors swirling surrounding the expedited vaccine(s).   There is a "global vaccine foundation" that Bill Gates is in part funding -- lots of rumors swirling around about him as well.

I'm good.  I think I can do without.  I've done without the flu vaccine and I'm still breathing.  I trust NO one, especially now that our fine governor DeSantis has given authority to his Secy of health to mandate and force quarantines and vaccines.  Lovely!

I trust God, my wife and children and a very few long time close friends. That's about it.  And I'll have no part of their damned vacine.

COVID-19 Vaccine Messaging, Part 1

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0...cntry=US&draw=2

The safety and scientific validity of this study is the responsibility of the study sponsor and investigators. Listing a study does not mean it has been evaluated by the U.S. Federal Government. Read our disclaimer for details.

ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT04460703
Recruitment Status : Completed
First Posted : July 7, 2020
Last Update Posted : July 21, 2020
Sponsor:
Yale University
Information provided by (Responsible Party):
Yale University


Study Description

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Brief Summary:

This study tests different messages about vaccinating against COVID-19 once the vaccine becomes available. Participants are randomized to 1 of 12 arms, with one control arm and one baseline arm. We will compare the reported willingness to get a COVID-19 vaccine at 3 and 6 months of it becoming available between the 10 intervention arms to the 2 control arms.

Study participants are recruited online by Lucid, which matches census based sampling in online recruitment.

Condition or disease Intervention/treatment Phase
Vaccination COVID-19 Other: Control message Other: Baseline message Other: Personal freedom message Other: Economic freedom message Other: Self-interest message Other: Community interest message Other: Economic benefit message Other: Guilt message Other: Embarrassment message Other: Anger message Other: Trust in science message Other: Not bravery message Not Applicable

Study Design
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Study Type : Interventional (Clinical Trial)
Actual Enrollment : 4000 participants
Allocation: Randomized
Intervention Model: Parallel Assignment
Intervention Model Description: In this study, 2/15 of participants will be assigned to a control message (bird feeding passage), 3/15 of sample to a baseline vaccine message, and 1/15 to each of the 10 other treatment arms.
Masking: None (Open Label)
Primary Purpose: Other
Official Title: Persuasive Messages for COVID-19 Vaccine Uptake: a Randomized Controlled Trial, Part 1
Actual Study Start Date : July 3, 2020
Actual Primary Completion Date : July 8, 2020
Actual Study Completion Date : July 8, 2020
Arms and Interventions
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Rest at above link