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General Category => World News => Topic started by: PeteS in CA on April 23, 2021, 07:22:28 pm
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Just how scary is the COVID outbreak in India right now?
https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/04/21/just-how-scary-is-the-covid-outbreak-in-india-right-now-n384879 (https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/04/21/just-how-scary-is-the-covid-outbreak-in-india-right-now-n384879)
I have no deep thoughts about this subject but I want to put it on your radar because there’s every indication that it’ll end up as the worst COVID outbreak on Earth since the pandemic began. That distinction currently belongs to Brazil, I think, but India’s population dwarfs that country’s. And India is poorer per capita, which means more people in dire need of hospital care may not be able to get it.
Where the death toll might go on this, God only knows.
The epidemic curve there has turned vertical. And it must be stressed: In a poor nation that isn’t doing much testing (India ranks 116th in tests per capita), the number of confirmed cases only scratches the surface of the true number of infections.
Both India's daily new cases and daily deaths numbers are soaring, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/ .
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COVID is soaring in Russia too. The numbers being reported have never been anywhere near reality for Russia.
One journalist in Russia said the real number is at a minimum three times more than reported. Who knows? Certainly not the Russian people!
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Yes, pretty scary, although it looks like the pure exponential growth phase in new cases is over, so I would expect a peak there in the next week or two, with a peak in deaths/day a couple of weeks after that.
https://imgur.com/jITZd30
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Scary, with reports of people dropping like flies and two on a respirator at a time...
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India's richest people are fleeing on private jets as the country hits almost 350,000 COVID-19 infections in another daily global record
https://www.businessinsider.in/thelife/news/indias-richest-people-are-fleeing-on-private-jets-as-the-country-hits-almost-350000-covid-19-infections-in-another-daily-global-record/articleshow/82242206.cms
APR 25, 2021
...On Sunday, public health officials reported 349,691 new COVID-19 cases in the country, according to Sky News. They also reported 2,767 deaths, another daily record, as some nations announced they would implement travel restrictions on visitors from India.
The alarming numbers are prompting wealthy Indians to pay thousands for last-minute flights and private jets as travel restrictions come into place.
One popular destination seems to be the United Arab Emirates, which is only a short distance away from India and usually operates hundreds of flights there. It announced this week that it was barring the entry of travelers from India for 10 days from April 25, according to Gulf News....
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I saw mention of this on Twitter this morning and didn't note the source, but it was suggested that this is China's way to try to conquer and take over India - which they've wanted to do for decades. In other words, China has just "planted" the Covid-19 (or a new variety thereof) intentionally in India. At least, that's what many Indian people are speculating.
Of course, China is acting like they'd be more than happy to help:China 'Ready' to Help India Fight COVID-19 Crisis Amid U.S. Vaccine Materials Ban
By Tom O'Connor On 4/22/21 at 6:50 PM EDT
China has offered to help India fight its worsening COVID-19 crisis as the United States continues to ban exports of vaccines for the coronavirus disease.
India marked a world record surge Thursday of more than 300,000 new COVID-19 cases in a single day as the nation of some 1.3 billion people scrambled to curb the spread of the illness and treat those already infected despite dwindling resources. The situation has prompted international concern, including from neighboring China.
"The COVID-19 pandemic is a common enemy of all mankind that necessitates international solidarity and mutual assistance," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin told reporters on Thursday. "China takes note of the recent grave situation in India with a temporary shortage of anti-epidemic medical supplies." ...
Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/china-ready-help-india-fight-covid-19-crisis-amid-us-vaccine-materials-ban-1585839)
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I saw mention of this on Twitter this morning and didn't note the source, but it was suggested that this is China's way to try to conquer and take over India - which they've wanted to do for decades. In other words, China has just "planted" the Covid-19 (or a new variety thereof) intentionally in India. At least, that's what many Indian people are speculating.
Of course, China is acting like they'd be more than happy to help:Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/china-ready-help-india-fight-covid-19-crisis-amid-us-vaccine-materials-ban-1585839)
I can believe China engineered and released this disease on purpose. They are the one country that seems to have escaped any significant economic impact from it. They used their authoritarian control to implement draconian steps early and got ahead of the disease quickly. They delayed telling the rest of the world about it so that it could spread there. Meanwhile the western countries tanked their economies with lock-downs. China has escaped any and all accountability for this so far, and with Xiden in office, accountability is not likely to come from the US.
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Its only "scary" because the Indian government screwed up and wants someone else to take ownership and responsibility for their ineptitude.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
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Covid-19 in India: Patients struggle at home as hospitals choke
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56882167
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Its only "scary" because the Indian government screwed up and wants someone else to take ownership and responsibility for their ineptitude.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
India has a huge population of extremely poor people. Google "shanty town" if you don't know what I mean. It's hard to imagine any way they could have dealt with this. It was sort of inevitable.
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The gulf between the rich and poor in India makes the corresponding gap in the US look like a crack in the sidewalk.
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India’s Health Care System In ‘Total Collapse’ As COVID Surge ‘Ravages’ Country
https://www.dailywire.com/news/indias-health-care-system-in-total-collapse-as-covid-surge-ravages-country
India’s health care system is reportedly in “total collapse” and doctors are begging for basic medical supplies, like tanks of oxygen, as the country struggles to get a massive surge in COVID-19 cases under control.
On Thursday, India recorded a world record number of new COVID-19 cases, clocking 314,835 infections and, India Today reported, experts expect to reach a “peak” of 5,000 deaths per day — but that peak could still be weeks away.
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Fauci: US Will Consider Sending AstraZeneca Vaccine to COVID-Hit India
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fauci-az-vaccine-india/2021/04/25/id/1018923/
The United States will consider sending surplus AstraZeneca vaccines to India, as backlash over its stockpile grows and the South Asian giant reels from a COVID-19 surge, top U.S. pandemic advisor Anthony Fauci said Sunday.
Western nations including Britain and Germany have pledged help as India's coronavirus crisis grows, driving increases in global case numbers in recent days even as the number of vaccines administered globally surpasses the one billion mark.
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The United States has around 30 million doses of the low-cost AstraZeneca vaccine that are not approved for use in the country, and Fauci said the idea of sending them to India will be "something that is up for active consideration."
Some background info:
1. As of this AM, AZ has not applied for EUA in the US.
2. There is a contract in place (signed last summer) whereby 300M doses are on order contingent on AZ receiving EUA.
3. One of the countries in which AZ's vaccine is produced is India, though I don't know the volume or contractual commitments.
4. If one compares India to other countries here, https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations , just ~8.5% of India's population has received at least one vaccine dose, while that number is ~41.8% for the US. EuroLand countries are probably north of 22%.
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I can believe China engineered and released this disease on purpose. They are the one country that seems to have escaped any significant economic impact from it. They used their authoritarian control to implement draconian steps early and got ahead of the disease quickly. They delayed telling the rest of the world about it so that it could spread there. Meanwhile the western countries tanked their economies with lock-downs. China has escaped any and all accountability for this so far, and with Xiden in office, accountability is not likely to come from the US.
I quite agree. They could take down every country in the world in this manner. Maybe India is just a test case.
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The real question I have here is that for months, people were looking at India, expecting this to happen, and yet it never did. Why now? This was SUPPOSED to happen. India is so densely populated that this virus was bound to explode regardless of any intervention, and yet for a year, it never did. We speculated that maybe it was an anti-tuberculosis vaccine or maybe the widespread use of HCQ... but then it hit. Why didn't it hit sooner?
There is so much about this situation and this virus that none of us understand.
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I don't believe any of it.
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India tops 200,000 COVID deaths as virus surge breaks health system
By Yaron Steinbuch
April 28, 2021 | 8:12am
India marked a grim milestone Wednesday with 200,000 people lost to COVID-19 — as a relentless surge of new cases overwhelms hospitals, sends families searching for oxygen supplies, and has seen parking lots in the capital, New Delhi, converted into crematoriums.
The health ministry reported a single-day record of 3,293 deaths in the last 24 hours, bringing the world’s second-most populous country’s total fatalities to 201,187.
India, a country of nearly 1.4 billion people, also reported 362,757 new infections, a new global record, which raised the overall total past 17.9 million.
The previous high of 350,000 on Monday had capped a five-day streak of recording the largest single-day spikes in any country during the pandemic.
more
https://nypost.com/2021/04/28/india-tops-200000-covid-deaths-as-surge-breaks-health-system/
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India has a huge population of extremely poor people. Google "shanty town" if you don't know what I mean. It's hard to imagine any way they could have dealt with this. It was sort of inevitable.
Every country gets their turn, eventually.
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Every country gets their turn, eventually.
Indeed. Except for China. The fact that they didn't have a situation like India is one of the main reasons I think they deliberately let this get out. If they didn't release it on purpose, they damn sure kept it quiet on purpose so that they wouldn't be the only country hit. They've come out ahead on this deal, and exactly the opposite should be the case.
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I saw mention of this on Twitter this morning and didn't note the source, but it was suggested that this is China's way to try to conquer and take over India - which they've wanted to do for decades. In other words, China has just "planted" the Covid-19 (or a new variety thereof) intentionally in India. At least, that's what many Indian people are speculating.
Of course, China is acting like they'd be more than happy to help:Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/china-ready-help-india-fight-covid-19-crisis-amid-us-vaccine-materials-ban-1585839)
Such is the passive-aggressive nature of unconventional warfare, to keep the target off balance as long as possible, even to the point of being unable to mount defense.
India is the preeminent local naval power in the region, ahead of the Australians. China's first overt steps will involve naval power.
India, however, has nukes, and has used them before to make political statements back and forth with Pakistan.
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Indeed. Except for China. The fact that they didn't have a situation like India is one of the main reasons I think they deliberately let this get out. If they didn't release it on purpose, they damn sure kept it quiet on purpose so that they wouldn't be the only country hit. They've come out ahead on this deal, and exactly the opposite should be the case.
We do not know what effects China has had. We only "know" what they choose to tell us. If the pandemic had wiped out their army, would they say so?
This has been a war of appearances from the start, internationally and domestically.
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We do not know what effects China has had. We only "know" what they choose to tell us. If the pandemic had wiped out their army, would they say so?
This has been a war of appearances from the start, internationally and domestically.
We know based on the economics around their manufacturing output and satellite views of their thermal and CO2 output that their economy is moving along just fine, whereas everyone else has been negatively impacted.
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We know based on the economics around their manufacturing output and satellite views of their thermal and CO2 output that their economy is moving along just fine, whereas everyone else has been negatively impacted.
Purveyors of PPE to the World.
(WEAR YOUR MASK! WEAR TWO!!)
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Purveyors of PPE to the World.
(WEAR YOUR MASK! WEAR TWO!!)
Time to get Medieval on it!
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The real question I have here is that for months, people were looking at India, expecting this to happen, and yet it never did. Why now? This was SUPPOSED to happen. India is so densely populated that this virus was bound to explode regardless of any intervention, and yet for a year, it never did. We speculated that maybe it was an anti-tuberculosis vaccine or maybe the widespread use of HCQ... but then it hit. Why didn't it hit sooner?
There is so much about this situation and this virus that none of us understand.
Perhaps it mutated.
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Perhaps it mutated.
Maybe the Chinese had to whip up another version that isn't affected by zinc, or maybe the Indians ran out (Zinc supplementation was essential to the efficacy of Ivermectin or HCQ as a prophylactic regimen as well, and that protection would be limited in duration.)
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Coronavirus is a 'cold virus'. It will be with us forever. It will always show up on tests. It has already mutated.
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The real question I have here is that for months, people were looking at India, expecting this to happen, and yet it never did. Why now? This was SUPPOSED to happen. India is so densely populated that this virus was bound to explode regardless of any intervention, and yet for a year, it never did. We speculated that maybe it was an anti-tuberculosis vaccine or maybe the widespread use of HCQ... but then it hit. Why didn't it hit sooner?
There is so much about this situation and this virus that none of us understand.
Agree. 100%.
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@PeteS in CA
@roamer_1
@Cyber Liberty
Pete/roam/Liberty, I think these "plagues" will never cease; new strains will keep killing across the world. God is using nature which man cannot control, in these last days, against the entire world. It appears almost every "nature event" that has happened in the past three years has been the worst of its kind ever known. Water, cold, heat, plagues, fires, volcanos, and I think what is left to add to world suffering is God's skyward nature. Think of the objects from above that can kill.
There wasn't anything "natural" about this virus from China.
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There wasn't anything "natural" about this virus from China.
No there wasn’t. One thing is for certain, now that the authoritarians have gotten such wonderful results from this ‘pandemic’ we can be sure there’ll be an endless stream of them or something like them from now on.
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I can believe China engineered and released this disease on purpose. They are the one country that seems to have escaped any significant economic impact from it. They used their authoritarian control to implement draconian steps early and got ahead of the disease quickly. They delayed telling the rest of the world about it so that it could spread there. Meanwhile the western countries tanked their economies with lock-downs. China has escaped any and all accountability for this so far, and with Xiden in office, accountability is not likely to come from the US.
One of Trump's Third Term campaign themes should be "Chinese Reparations for the Chinese Virus".
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One of Trump's Third Term campaign themes should be "Chinese Reparations for the Chinese Virus".
Do it now.
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The gulf between the rich and poor in India makes the corresponding gap in the US look like a crack in the sidewalk.
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India’s Health Care System In ‘Total Collapse’ As COVID Surge ‘Ravages’ Country
https://www.dailywire.com/news/indias-health-care-system-in-total-collapse-as-covid-surge-ravages-country
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Fauci: US Will Consider Sending AstraZeneca Vaccine to COVID-Hit India
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fauci-az-vaccine-india/2021/04/25/id/1018923/
Some background info:
1. As of this AM, AZ has not applied for EUA in the US.
2. There is a contract in place (signed last summer) whereby 300M doses are on order contingent on AZ receiving EUA.
3. One of the countries in which AZ's vaccine is produced is India, though I don't know the volume or contractual commitments.
4. If one compares India to other countries here, https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations , just ~8.5% of India's population has received at least one vaccine dose, while that number is ~41.8% for the US. EuroLand countries are probably north of 22%.
What is our liability exposure of sending a non-approved vaccine to India if some percentage of Indians die from it?
I think the US has to be absolved of all liability, in writing, by the indian government, prohibiting any lawsuit in any American court over the use of the drug if sent to India or anywhere else.
If they don't like the terms of that agreement, they can die without it. All the same to me.
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Do it now.
Ain't gonna happen with a Slut and an Senile Idiot posturing as the Co-Puppets Of the USA for China's pleasure.
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Ain't gonna happen with a Slut and an Senile Idiot posturing as the Co-Puppets Of the USA for China's pleasure.
Not that. Have Trump start yammering for it.
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Give the reparations to the...Indians...
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What is our liability exposure of sending a non-approved vaccine to India if some percentage of Indians die from it?
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AZ's vaccine is approved for use in India (as well as in the UK and EuroLand). It also is being produced in India (just not enough, at this point, to serve the whole country).
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State Department Warns Americans To Leave India As Deaths Surge - "It's Like A Mass Killing"
by Tyler Durden
Thursday, Apr 29, 2021 - 10:37 AMAs India reports growing numbers of COVID-19 deaths every day, the US and other nations are sending critical supplies while cutting off travel links. But Washington has just taken its first steps toward an evacuation as it warns all Americans still in India that it's time to get out of Dodge. ...
As President Biden dithers about whether to support a WTO motion from India and South Africa asking for a waiver for vaccine IP so developing nations can start producing their own jabs instead of relying upon (and enriching) American pharma giants, corporations like Amazon have been chipping in with aid, with the Bezos-controlled tech giant airlifting 100 ICU ventilators. Private Equity giant Blackstone has reportedly committed $5 million to India relief.
Meanwhile, the scenes at hospitals, crematoriums and neighbors around the country have been described as "like a mass killing" by one activist fighting India's devastating second wave. According to NBC News, cremtoriums have had to forgo the rituals that Hindus believe release the soul from the body during the cycle of rebirth. And it's not just crematoriums, Muslim burial yards in New Delhi are running out of space.
ZeroHedge (https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/state-department-warns-americans-leave-india-deaths-surge-its-mass-killing)
Hmm. "Like a mass killing" sounds like this unnamed activist is implying it's intentional (on someone's part, can you say "China"?).
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State Department Warns Americans To Leave India As Deaths Surge - "It's Like A Mass Killing"
by Tyler Durden
Thursday, Apr 29, 2021 - 10:37 AMZeroHedge (https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/state-department-warns-americans-leave-india-deaths-surge-its-mass-killing)
Hmm. "Like a mass killing" sounds like this unnamed activist is implying it's intentional (on someone's part, can you say "China"?).
That'll teach those Indians to beat the Chinese like a drum on the border.
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I heard there are areas in the country where vaccines are about to expire, and may be wasted. Too bad these can't be diverted to help put a dent in this mess in India.
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Coronavirus is a 'cold virus'. It will be with us forever. It will always show up on tests. It has already mutated.
Yeah, but how many variants of the common cold will dissolve your lungs?
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From https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55748124
Sputnik V, Covishield, Covaxin: What we know about India's Covid-19 vaccines
The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is being manufactured locally by the Serum Institute of India, the world's largest vaccine manufacturer. It says it is producing more than 60 million doses a month.
60 million doses a month is impressive ... until one compares that to India's ~1.4 billion people population. At that production rate the 1.4 billionth dose would be produced in the 21st month.
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AZ's vaccine is approved for use in India (as well as in the UK and EuroLand). It also is being produced in India (just not enough, at this point, to serve the whole country).
AZ approved by WHO February 15, https://www.astrazeneca.com/content/astraz/media-centre/press-releases/2021/astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-authorised-for-emergency-use-by-the-world-health-organization.html
AZ approved by EU January 29, https://www.astrazeneca.com/content/astraz/media-centre/press-releases/2021/covid-19-vaccine-authorised-for-use-in-the-eu.html
AZ approved by India January 6, https://www.astrazeneca.com/content/astraz/media-centre/press-releases/2021/serum-institute-of-india-obtains-emergency-use-authorisation-in-india-for-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine.html
AZ approved by UK December 30, https://www.astrazeneca.com/content/astraz/media-centre/press-releases/2020/astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine-authorised-in-uk.html
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Give the reparations to the...Indians...
Send US tax money to one of the largest muslim populations in the world?
Bad idea.
We need a Reparations Moratorium. Unless we can get the (b)lacks to pay for repairing the damage they've done to the cities and the nation over the last 60 years.
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Send US tax money to one of the largest muslim populations in the world?
Bad idea.
We need a Reparations Moratorium. Unless we can get the (b)lacks to pay for repairing the damage they've done to the cities and the nation over the last 60 years.
Isn't Indonesia the largest Muslim population in the world?
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Send US tax money to one of the largest muslim populations in the world?
Bad idea.
We need a Reparations Moratorium. Unless we can get the (b)lacks to pay for repairing the damage they've done to the cities and the nation over the last 60 years.
I meant OUR Indians. wink777 22chief
You're new here. I want EVERY moslem gone, down to the last one. EVERY EFFING ONE. And destroy all trace of islam from the land, books, and memory.
And stop calling them muslims. moslem is now a slur. Spit. It wasn't when I was over there. EFF THEM ALL.
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The USA is sending tens of billions overseas, even for would be enemies. Heck, we give Russia foreign aid. Why? Got me!!! Last I looked, we were giving Russia $150 million in aid.
I understand occupying Afghanistan, I don't Iraq. Iraq has plenty of revenue to build their military for defense, Afghanistan doesn't. We have been in both countries for nearly 20 years, and yet our so called training is not in evidence.
We have troops in 140 countries. Why? Makes no sense to me, unless those countries are paying for us to be there, starting with Germany. Germany, who year in and year out does not pay their fair share for NATO.
That is a popular expression of Wrecking Ball Joe, "fair share". He uses is frequently in reference to corporations paying taxes, and the rich. Well, I doubt we hear him bark at the nations of Europe that do not pay their fair share for NATO. He will have the USA taxpayers once again supporting the whole shibang again.
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They just announced we are sending $100 million in aid to India. It is good we have so much taxpayer money laying around to spend such for India. I doubt the total aid from all other nations does not add up to what we are spending.
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They just announced we are sending $100 million in aid to India. It is good we have so much taxpayer money laying around to spend such for India. I doubt the total aid from all other nations does not add up to what we are spending.
It doesn't mean anything and is only for the optics. $100 million is a low number, globally.
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Yeah, but how many variants of the common cold will dissolve your lungs?
All the ones which were engineered to...Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system2, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein. On the basis of these findings, we synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. Our work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985
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All the ones which were engineered to...
Exactly.
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Yeah, but how many variants of the common cold will dissolve your lungs?
Almost all, as pneumonia is a side effect. Some are saying the actual bio-weapon, IS the vaccine.
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Send US tax money to one of the largest muslim populations in the world?
Bad idea.
We need a Reparations Moratorium. Unless we can get the (b)lacks to pay for repairing the damage they've done to the cities and the nation over the last 60 years.
:thumbsup:
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Isn't Indonesia the largest Muslim population in the world?
Might be. Does it matter that much? I'm not ever going to either place.
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I meant OUR Indians. wink777 22chief
You're new here. I want EVERY moslem gone, down to the last one. EVERY EFFING ONE. And destroy all trace of islam from the land, books, and memory.
And stop calling them muslims. moslem is now a slur. Spit. It wasn't when I was over there. EFF THEM ALL.
We don't owe the North American aborigines anything, either.
BTW, I've never owned a North American aborigine, what do you mean by "our"?
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It doesn't mean anything and is only for the optics. $100 million is a low number, globally.
$0 is a lower number and much nicer to the US taxpayer.
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India reports another record high in COVID-19 cases as hospitals overwhelmed
India on Friday reported a new record spike in daily COVID-19 cases while the country grapples with the devastating wave pushing its health system to a brink.
The country’s health ministry recorded 386,452 cases over a 24-hour period and 3,498 deaths, CNBC reported. The figure is the highest daily caseload reported across the world, shattering the previous record established by the country just days prior.
There have been more than 18.7 million cases and 208,000 deaths reported since the onset of the pandemic, making it the second hardest hit country in the world behind the United States, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
more
https://thehill.com/policy/international/551114-india-reports-another-record-high-in-covid-19-cases-as-hospitals
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$0 is a lower number and much nicer to the US taxpayer.
We should send no foreign aid to anyone. But we send billions
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myst, you posted, "India reports another record high in COVID-19 cases as hospitals overwhelmed India on Friday reported a new record spike in daily COVID-19 cases while the country grapples with the devastating wave pushing its health system to a brink."
@mystery-ak
@bigheadfred
@Cyber Liberty
I heard this morning a comment from a CNN anchor that tells me India has the same hospital system as England/Wales. The anchor said this in regard to India: "If you can't afford a private hospital, you end up here." There was a picture of people waiting for oxygen.
The operative two words are, "PRIVATE HOSPITAL".
Here is how a private hospital system works in England/Wales (all of the UK). Since son has lived there over twenty-five years, I know how their health system works.
Medical care is free in the UK. Get in line for care; no appointments made. Need an operation? Get in line, likely a month or more waiting for your operation. UNLESS....
You have a private health plan you pay for. Choose your doctor and make an appointment, not a long wait to see a doctor. Not long wait for surgery. Free care people go to a free care place. Private plan people go to the office of the doctor. Doctors see their private care patients at their offices. They go to the free care place at designated times to give the free care. HOWEVER, if one goes to the free care place and is likely to be dying, bleeding out, etc., that person is seen right then.
There are two types of hospitals. Free hospitals and private health plan hospitals. Be in a ward in free hospitals. Be in private room in private hospitals.
A person I knew in the UK, had free care. She had a bleeding ulcer and was put in the free hospital. She had to stay there a number of days and was in a ward. She said she could not rest as others in there were always moving around and making noise. She could not get a nurse to help her. When she got out of there, she immediately got a private plan. This "liberal to the left of Stalin" person had the free care to show she was for the common people. That was fine until she had to experience what free care was really like, then she separated herself from the "common" people and got the private plan.
Back to India: Appears to be the same system as UK - free plan, and private plan. My supposition is, if there are limited oxygen tanks, they would be in the private plan hospitals and not in the free care.
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Almost all, as pneumonia is a side effect 1. Some are saying the actual bio-weapon, IS the vaccine 2.
1 The pneumonia is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. It is not a "side effect".
2 That is stupid, on multiple levels. There is no "the vaccine", singular. There are, currently, three vaccines approved for use in the US, not one. The Pfizer vaccine was developed by the German company BioNTech. The J&J vaccine was developed by their Belgian subsidiary, Janssen Research. Moderna's is the only currently approved vaccine developed in the US. The idea that any one of those companies created a "bio-weapon" is ridiculous, and the idea that the three together did is ludicrous.
The "some" who "are saying" "the vaccine" is a "bio-weapon" are displaying their multi-level ignorance and stupidity.
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1 The pneumonia is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. It is not a "side effect".
2 That is stupid, on multiple levels. There is no "the vaccine", singular. There are, currently, three vaccines approved for use in the US, not one. The Pfizer vaccine was developed by the German company BioNTech. The J&J vaccine was developed by their Belgian subsidiary, Janssen Research. Moderna's is the only currently approved vaccine developed in the US. The idea that any one of those companies created a "bio-weapon" is ridiculous, and the idea that the three together did is ludicrous.
The "some" who "are saying" "the vaccine" is a "bio-weapon" are displaying their multi-level ignorance and stupidity.
Pete you have some real issue with me. You got sick. Had the 'flu', now you think you are special and an authority on covid. Most of us don't know, what is going on. Your thinly veiled INSULTS to me, are obvious. Why are you such a prk?
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Based on Dr. Kaufman's videos', and my friend from another site. Things to consider.
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From just a logical point of view alone, you can see that saying a disease has been positively identified and yet, can be asymptomatic, is ridiculous unless it's part of a hoax, which in that case, an asymptomatic disease becomes a very useful tool.
Think about it. We're told that COVID19 can have the symptoms of a hundred other diseases, everything from tuberculosis, to lung cancer to the common cold and even allergies.....It can have everything from multiple symptoms of things like gun shot wounds, falling in the bathtub injuries, to no symptoms at all....Everything from a goat to a papaya has tested positive on the accepted test for COVID19, which is the RT-PCR test.
So....with these facts in mind, on this basis alone, you can deduce that it is a hoax logically....If EVERYTHING can be mis-labled as COVID now....then does the disease COVID actually exist? If you can't isolate the symptoms, let alone the thing that is causing the symptoms, how can you create a cure for it? It's like attempting to cure the "effect" without knowing the cause...or in this case, misidentifying the cause in a thousand different ways.
And so we come to the idea of a vaccine itself which has questionable logic, because the idea is ostensibly to inoculate a person from the effects of a disease before they get it and before the CAUSE of the disease is known...So right there, you run into a logical error, because you're attempting to now treat for the future effects of an unknown or misidentified cause....Would anyone argue that it's appropriate to treat for the symptoms of a common cold with a vaccine for a virus that has never been identified and isolated/purified out of a solution of genetic fluid?
And yet, that's what you're doing here. People don't seem to have the logical reasoning power to grasp the error in this thought process.
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Medical care is free in the UK.
It most certainly is not.
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Pete you have some real issue with me. You got sick. Had the 'flu', now you think you are special and an authority on covid. Most of us don't know, what is going on. Your thinly veiled INSULTS to me, are obvious. Why are you such a prk?
No, I do not "have some real issue with" you. I responded to the misinformation you posted.
I do not "think (I am) special and an authority on covid". However, I have been following Covid news rather closely for over a year, because I knew it would be exploited politically, and because my family has been affected by it since early February (I am not referring the shutdown and mask stuff).
I did not have the "flu". The influenza viruses and SARS-CoV-2 virus are very different viruses. The tests that confirmed I had Covid are very specific and won't give a positive result for an influenza virus.
Where did I insult you, @LegalAmerican? Please quote me exactly and give the link.
"Why are you such a prk?" Nice hypocrisy
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State Department Urges American Citizens To Leave India As COVID-19 Crisis Worsens
https://www.dailywire.com/news/state-department-urges-american-citizens-to-leave-india-as-covid-19-crisis-worsens (https://www.dailywire.com/news/state-department-urges-american-citizens-to-leave-india-as-covid-19-crisis-worsens)
The United States Department of State issued a warning Wednesday urging American citizens traveling abroad in India to leave as soon as they are able amid concerns that India’s worsening COVID-19 pandemic has officially become a crisis.
“The high-level travel advisory posted Wednesday noted that ‘access to all types of medical care is becoming severely limited in India due to the surge in Covid-19 cases,'” The Washington Post reported. “U.S. citizens who wish to depart India should take advantage of available commercial transportation options now.”
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Where's the World Health Organization?
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February last year LIEden denounced Trump's China travel shutdown as xenophobic. This year LIEden shut down travel from India.
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US death rate - 1.78%
India death rate - 1.10%
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We don't owe the North American aborigines anything, either.
BTW, I've never owned a North American aborigine, what do you mean by "our"?
Tell my wife that. Her people lost over 10 million acres to the tax and steal gambit. A government they were trying to get along with gave them (nice wasn't it) title to their land, then took it for 'back' taxes. All legal like. Just like the carpetbaggers did, and they had plenty of practice.
Now, she isn't playing victim over it, and isn't demanding a cent of 'reparations', just a fair statement of what happened.
Because something like it is coming again...it's just a question of when.
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From just a logical point of view alone, you can see that saying a disease has been positively identified and yet, can be asymptomatic, is ridiculous unless it's part of a hoax, which in that case, an asymptomatic disease becomes a very useful tool.
Think about it. We're told that COVID19 can have the symptoms of a hundred other diseases, everything from tuberculosis, to lung cancer to the common cold and even allergies.....It can have everything from multiple symptoms of things like gun shot wounds, falling in the bathtub injuries, to no symptoms at all....Everything from a goat to a papaya has tested positive on the accepted test for COVID19, which is the RT-PCR test.
So....with these facts in mind, on this basis alone, you can deduce that it is a hoax logically....If EVERYTHING can be mis-labled as COVID now....then does the disease COVID actually exist? If you can't isolate the symptoms, let alone the thing that is causing the symptoms, how can you create a cure for it? It's like attempting to cure the "effect" without knowing the cause...or in this case, misidentifying the cause in a thousand different ways.
And so we come to the idea of a vaccine itself which has questionable logic, because the idea is ostensibly to inoculate a person from the effects of a disease before they get it and before the CAUSE of the disease is known...So right there, you run into a logical error, because you're attempting to now treat for the future effects of an unknown or misidentified cause....Would anyone argue that it's appropriate to treat for the symptoms of a common cold with a vaccine for a virus that has never been identified and isolated/purified out of a solution of genetic fluid?
And yet, that's what you're doing here. People don't seem to have the logical reasoning power to grasp the error in this thought process.
All I can scientifically deduce is that between the conflicts of interest inherent in political and pecuniary motivation, the entire data set has been so viciously corrupted that is difficult to tell much of anything at all.
We can't be sure of much besides some people who test positive get very sick and some of them die.
We can't trust the tests because of false positives.
Many of the heavily publicized "experiments" run by medical researchers only proved that incomplete treatments (pharmaceutical regimens missing key components) given in the late stages of the disease are generally ineffective.
Early treatment is the key to defeating almost any disease, from a skin infection to cancer, but the lockdown protocols which required isolation were keeping patients from receiving treatment until the disease progressed enough for the patient to become critical, at which point, a pharmacology aimed at preventing viral replication and damage was too late.
They did not disprove the efficacy of the complete regimens [ivermectin/doxycycline/zinc or HCQ/Azithromycin/zinc] given at the earliest stages of the disease, because those well-publicized studies did not administer the full regimen at the early stages of the disease, and studies which did were censored because they showed early treatment to be effective when the entire regimen was used.
While HCQ was the ionophore of choice in the Zelenko Protocol, a related and less tolerable drug (Chloroquine) was ballyhooed in the media for having some nasty side effects (especially in high doses, which is true), but the dosages administered to study patients were far too high, in one study, 3X the LD50 for the drug, and it was not even the same drug. Capitalizing on the general ignorance of the public, the media mad great noise over the side effects of a drug that sounded like the star ionophore in the Zelenko Protocol in an effort (largely successful in some parts) to dissuade people from using what works. Because fear sells media time and gets ratings.
The entire push has been for a vaccine from the start. Motivation for this may well be pecuniary (direct or indirect financial benefit), for 'health reasons', for political purposes (knowing full well the normal delays combined with the draconian measures justified by the test data and alleged death rates would be economically destructive to America and politically devastating to whomever the media blamed, and that was a given from the start), or to garner prestige in the field. Whatever the motivation, the bias inherent in setting out to prove that a vaccine would be the only effective means of stopping this disease has cost tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of lives, untold economic devastation here and broad, and set up the biggest election steal in history, all done by (for the most part) people we had no hand in putting in power, and we have no ability to remove from their positions.
No doubt, people get sick, but we can't trust the tests, the infection rates, the mortality figures, the CODs of alleged victims, the attempts to discredit effective early treatment, and even prevent it from being used by demonizing drugs in common usage worldwide for decades, even to the point of administering lethal doses to one study group.
It's bloody obvious to me, that of all the considerations by some of the 'foremost' experts and policymakers, the lives of the American (and, globally other) people are in dead last place (no pun intended) in consideration by the media, the current arbiters of the Medical Community, and politicians who remain in power after the most egregious vote fraud in history.
Why, in God's name, should I trust any of them when all they have done is lie to me from the start?
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All I can scientifically deduce is that between the conflicts of interest inherent in political and pecuniary motivation, the entire data set has been so viciously corrupted that is difficult to tell much of anything at all.
We can't be sure of much besides some people who test positive get very sick and some of them die.
We can't trust the tests because of false positives.
Many of the heavily publicized "experiments" run by medical researchers only proved that incomplete treatments (pharmaceutical regimens missing key components) given in the late stages of the disease are generally ineffective.
Early treatment is the key to defeating almost any disease, from a skin infection to cancer, but the lockdown protocols which required isolation were keeping patients from receiving treatment until the disease progressed enough for the patient to become critical, at which point, a pharmacology aimed at preventing viral replication and damage was too late.
They did not disprove the efficacy of the complete regimens [ivermectin/doxycycline/zinc or HCQ/Azithromycin/zinc] given at the earliest stages of the disease, because those well-publicized studies did not administer the full regimen at the early stages of the disease, and studies which did were censored because they showed early treatment to be effective when the entire regimen was used.
While HCQ was the ionophore of choice in the Zelenko Protocol, a related and less tolerable drug (Chloroquine) was ballyhooed in the media for having some nasty side effects (especially in high doses, which is true), but the dosages administered to study patients were far too high, in one study, 3X the LD50 for the drug, and it was not even the same drug. Capitalizing on the general ignorance of the public, the media mad great noise over the side effects of a drug that sounded like the star ionophore in the Zelenko Protocol in an effort (largely successful in some parts) to dissuade people from using what works. Because fear sells media time and gets ratings.
The entire push has been for a vaccine from the start. Motivation for this may well be pecuniary (direct or indirect financial benefit), for 'health reasons', for political purposes (knowing full well the normal delays combined with the draconian measures justified by the test data and alleged death rates would be economically destructive to America and politically devastating to whomever the media blamed, and that was a given from the start), or to garner prestige in the field. Whatever the motivation, the bias inherent in setting out to prove that a vaccine would be the only effective means of stopping this disease has cost tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of lives, untold economic devastation here and broad, and set up the biggest election steal in history, all done by (for the most part) people we had no hand in putting in power, and we have no ability to remove from their positions.
No doubt, people get sick, but we can't trust the tests, the infection rates, the mortality figures, the CODs of alleged victims, the attempts to discredit effective early treatment, and even prevent it from being used by demonizing drugs in common usage worldwide for decades, even to the point of administering lethal doses to one study group.
It's bloody obvious to me, that of all the considerations by some of the 'foremost' experts and policymakers, the lives of the American (and, globally other) people are in dead last place (no pun intended) in consideration by the media, the current arbiters of the Medical Community, and politicians who remain in power after the most egregious vote fraud in history.
Why, in God's name, should I trust any of them when all they have done is lie to me from the start?
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CULTURE PUBLISHED: 5:12 PM 30 APR 2021
Yale Epidemiologist: 60% Of New COVID Cases Are In People Already Vaccinated
People who don’t understand that the vaccine makes you more susceptible to COVID (and the most deadly version), obviously believe the media propaganda and don’t read what they sign.
by April Matthews
https://conservativedailypost.com/yale-epidemiologist-60-of-new-covid-cases-are-in-people-already-vaccinated/
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Almost all, as pneumonia is a side effect. Some are saying the actual bio-weapon, IS the vaccine.
It seems this is MORE correct than not. Good luck to everyone. Still, YOUR CHOICE. NOT MINE.
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It seems this is MORE correct than not. Good luck to everyone. Still, YOUR CHOICE. NOT MINE.
1. The pneumonia that the SARS-CoV-2 virus causes was how doctors in Wuhan back in early December 2019 recognized they had a breakout of something new. The severity and persistence were distinctive. This post has much good info, with supporting links, about those early times in Wuhan https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,395099.msg2184146.html#msg2184146 .
2. Why in the world would pharmaceuticals companies in Germany (BioNTech), the Netherlands (the Janssen Research division of J&J), the US (Moderna and Novavax), and the UK (AstraZeneca) all suddenly decide to produce a bio-weapon? That claim is absurd beyond the limits of polite words. BTW, if your post of the bio-weapon claim was an allusion to Bill Gates, his supposed population control ideas, and Covid vaccines, Bill Gates had approximately zero input in the development and testing of any of those five vaccines.
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The pneumonia that the SARS-CoV-2 virus causes was how doctors in Wuhan back in early December 2019 recognized they had a breakout of something new.
They created the virus (with financial assistance from Anthony Fauci and the unwitting U.S. taxpayer). Of course they knew it was something new.
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The entire push has been for a vaccine from the start. ...
No, it hasn't. Ignoring the political organizational doings and actions such as travel shutdowns:
January 28, 2020 - AbCellera is mobilizing its pandemic response platform against the outbreak of Covid-19; Since 2018, under the DARPA Pandemic Prevention Platform (P3) program, AbCellera has been leading a team of partners to establish a platform for pandemic response capable of developing field-ready medical countermeasures within 60 days of isolation of an unknown viral pathogen; https://www.abcellera.com/news/2020-01-abcellera-mobilizing-a-response-to-novel-coronavirus
February 4, 2020 - HHS, Regeneron Collaborate to Develop 2019-nCoV Treatment; https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/02/04/hhs-regeneron-collaborate-to-develop-2019-ncov-treatment.html , https://investor.regeneron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/regeneron-announces-expanded-collaboration-hhs-develop-antibody
February 6, 2020 - Shipping of CDC 2019 coronavirus test kits begins; https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0206-coronavirus-diagnostic-test-kits.html
February 25, 2020 - An NIH clinical trial of Remdesivir begun; at University of Nebraska Medical Center, https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-clinical-trial-remdesivir-treat-covid-19-begins
February 29, 2020 - Testing labs allowed to use tests whose FDA Emergency Use Authorization requests are still pending; https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-issues-new-policy-help-expedite-availability-diagnostics
March 4, 2020 - HHS announced intent to purchase 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months for the Strategic National Stockpile; https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/04/hhs-to-procure-n95-respirators-to-support-healthcare-workers-in-covid-19-outbreaks.html
March 4, 2020 - HHS announced intent to purchase 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months for the Strategic National Stockpile; https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/04/hhs-to-procure-n95-respirators-to-support-healthcare-workers-in-covid-19-outbreaks.html
March 11, 2020 - Emergent BioSolutions announced it has initiated development of two plasma derived polyclonal antibody therapeutics for treatment and prevention of COVID-19; https://investors.emergentbiosolutions.com/news-releases/news-release-details/emergent-biosolutions-initiates-development-plasma-derived
March 11, 2020 - Vir Biotechnology and the NIH will work together to identify and optimize combinations of antibodies against coronaviruses, including SARS-CoV-2, SARS and MERS, as well as antibodies that may be effective across additional types of coronaviruses; https://investors.vir.bio/news-releases/news-release-details/vir-biotechnology-announces-research-collaboration-national
March 12, 2020 - AbCellera and Eli Lilly announced an agreement to develop antibody products for treatment and prevention of COVID-19; part of a 2018 DARPA program with AbCellera; https://lilly.mediaroom.com/2020-03-12-AbCellera-and-Lilly-to-Co-develop-Antibody-Therapies-for-the-Treatment-of-COVID-19 , https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/companies/eli-lilly-joins-race-to-develop-coronavirus-treatment/ar-BB116BNR
March 13, 2020 - Trump announced public-private partnerships for drive-through testing; https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/trump-announces-public-private-partnership-increase-national-coronavirus-69587547
March 13, 2020 - FDA granted emergency approval for faster coronavirus test; https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/other/487393-fda-grants-emergency-approval-for-faster-coronavirus-test
March 13, 2020 - FDA emergency approval for Thermo-Fisher coronavirus test (within 24 hours of applying); https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-issues-emergency-use-authorization-thermo-fisher
March 13, 2020 - Public-private partnerships allowed to open up drive-through testing collection sites; https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/13/in-declaring-national-emergency-trump-pledges-drive-thru-testing-greater-flexibility-for-doctors/
March 13, 2020 - FDA granted Roche AG an emergency approval for automated coronavirus testing kits; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-13/roche-gets-clearance-for-coronavirus-test-that-s-10-times-faster
March 13, 2020 - HHS announced funding support to DiaSorin Molecular and Qiagen for the development of a high-speed Covid-19 tests; https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/13/hhs-funds-development-covid-19-diagnostic-tests.html
March 16, 2020 - FDA allowing states to authorize use of tests developed by labs in their states; https://seekingalpha.com/news/3552325-fda-to-allow-states-to-authorize-coronavirus-tests
March 16, 2020 - CytoDyn filed a modified IND and protocol for its Phase 2 clinical trial with leronlimab as a therapy for patients with respiratory complications from COVID-19; https://www.cytodyn.com/newsroom/press-releases/detail/395/cytodyn-files-modified-ind-and-protocol-for-phase-2
March 17, 2020 - Defense Department to give HHS up to 5M respirator masks, 2,000 ventilators; https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News/Article/Article/2115200/dod-poised-to-provide-masks-ventilators-labs-to-hhs-for-coronavirus-fight/
March 18, 2020 - Trump invoked the Defense Production Act delegating to the Secretary of HHS the task of determining what products and components are critical in responding to Covid-19 and President Trump's authority, as necessary, to contract for, facilitate or compel production of, and distribute where needed those products; https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-prioritizing-allocating-health-medical-resources-respond-spread-covid-19/ , https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/18/secretary-azar-statement-president-trumps-invoking-defense-production-act.html
March 18, 2020 - Pernod Ricard USDA began producing hand sanitizer at all of its US distilleries, in coordination with and assisted by the White House Task Force; https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/pernod-ricard-usa-produces-hand-sanitizer-to-help-us-combat-covid-19-virus-301026216.html
March 18, 2020 - HHS announced funding support to Mesa Biotech for the advanced development of a high-speed point-of-care Covid-19 test; https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/18/hhs-supports-mesa-biotech-develop-rapid-diagnostic-detect-novel-coronavirus-infections.html
March 18, 2020 - HHS announced a partnership to develop a high-speed fill-and-finish process for vaccines and injectable drugs for the Strategic National Stockpile; https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/18/hhs-announces-new-public-private-partnership-to-develop-us-based-high-speed-emergency-drug-packaging-solutions.html
I was going to complete the month of March, but this post is long enough already. I picked non-vaccine-related items from https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,395099.msg2169385.html#msg2169385 , https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,412484.0.html , and https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,412485.0.html . I also could have found relevant non-vaccine-related items from my threads about ventilators, PPE, and uses of the DPA. Just because the MSM gave it little or no coverage does not mean it didn't happen.
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They created the virus (with financial assistance from Anthony Fauci and the unwitting U.S. taxpayer). Of course they knew it was something new.
IF the SARS-CoV-2 virus was created in the Wuhan Virology Institute, the doctors I referred to were the ones treating patients in hospitals, not working at the Institute. So, no, they did not know from the outset "it was something new". Wuhan isn't the most familiar (to Americans) of Chinese cities, but if it were in the US it would be the largest US city, by a margin of 2 or 3 million people. Hospital doctors would be too busy to moonlight at the Institute.
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Indian scientists flag virus mutations that could ‘evade immune response’
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indian-scientists-flag-virus-mutations-that-could-evade-immune-response-2021-05-01/
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Indian scientists flag virus mutations that could ‘evade immune response’
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indian-scientists-flag-virus-mutations-that-could-evade-immune-response-2021-05-01/
Here's what is says further below Reuters' fear-porn headline:
"We are seeing some mutation coming up in some samples that could possibly evade immune responses," said Shahid Jameel, chair of the scientific advisory group of INSACOG and a top Indian virologist. He did not say if the mutations have been seen in the Indian variant or any other strain.
"Unless you culture those viruses and test them in the lab, you can't say for sure. At this point, there is no reason to believe that they are expanding or if they can be dangerous, but we flagged it so that we keep our eye on the ball," he said.
No reason to believe. None. Zip. Nada.
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Have an associate who's in India right now. Speak to him on What'sApp everyday.
I asked him about the situation and said I'd hoped he and his beautiful family (a wife and two daughters) we safe.
He laughed and told me not to worry, he lived in a Gated Community. (He used to be an executive with Bank of America)
He said their overall medical system crashed and was quickly overwhelmed.
I didn't have the heart to tell him my theory... tinfoil it may be.
...that India simply has too many humans occupying too small square footage of land. Over 1.3 BILLION PEOPLE!
Millions of them bath and void themselves in the Ganges. :shrug:
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No, it hasn't. Ignoring the political organizational doings and actions such as travel shutdowns:
I was going to complete the month of March, but this post is long enough already. I picked non-vaccine-related items from https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,395099.msg2169385.html#msg2169385 , https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,412484.0.html , and https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,412485.0.html . I also could have found relevant non-vaccine-related items from my threads about ventilators, PPE, and uses of the DPA. Just because the MSM gave it little or no coverage does not mean it didn't happen.
Very well, point made.
There were treatment options bandied about, so long as Donald Trump did not mention them.
Monoclonal antibodies and Remdesivir were two I distinctly recall being pushed, then ...crickets....
I notice you left out the Zelenko protocol being announced, explained, and then rapidly censored (I admit to being unsure of those dates) and the jihad against hydroxychloroquine, UV treatment, and others, but that's okay.
The media were hell-bent on discrediting treatments that were not hideously expensive and largely of questionable efficacy, as was the medical establishment in the spotlight--if it was inexpensive, available, and would stop the panic, it got short shrift or attacked.
The focus seemed on inciting and maintaining levels of panic in the general public that Richard Adams described in Watership Down as going "tharn".
(This was essential in the grand scheme of things to push for voting by remote means, usually mail or drop boxes, which enabled the Steal of 2020. Whether by accident or design, this was panic was maintained and fully exploited. It was also important to impose the draconian measures which devastated the "Trump" economy, and that, too, was done--and still is.)
Eventually, the vaccine was seen as the only panacea, and any discussion of preemptive treatments (early onset, which were not hideously expensive) pretty much fell by the wayside, unles you were paying attention to the Aussies using Ivermectin (another antiparasitic, and an ionophore) with doxycycline and zinc.
The problem here is that people were told to get tested (day 4 or 5 of the disease, symptoms appear), and to wait (isolate) for results. The more delayed the results, the more severe the disease by the time they were confirmed, the worse off the patient was.
Instead, Zelenko advocated the administration of the three part protocol of Hydroxychloroquine (primarily and ionophore to get zinc into the Type 1 Pneumocytes the disease targets) an antibiotic (azithromycin, a macrolide antibiotic which not only protects against bacterial infection, but has the idiopathic effect of toning down the immune response to prevent a cytokine event) and zinc, the ion that interferes with viral replication in the cells. In the event the patient tested negative, no harm was likely, and some resistance was provided--the protocol has a prophylactic effect as well--and in the event they were positive, recovery (without needing hospitalization) was accelerated. Very few patients who followed this protocol were hospitalized.
You'd think the medical establishment would have been ecstatic (and some were, but were as quickly censored as Zelenko's YouTube, which laid out the pharmacological strategy, described in near layman's terms how it worked, what each part of the protocol did, and gave dosages he had used in practice. Nope. He got 'cancelled', using poorly conducted studies as "evidence" to justify that cancellation. Now, he has been nominated (not awarded as previously reported) for a Nobel.
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Have an associate who's in India right now. Speak to him on What'sApp everyday.
I asked him about the situation and said I'd hoped he and his beautiful family (a wife and two daughters) we safe.
He laughed and told me not to worry, he lived in a Gated Community. (He used to be an executive with Bank of America)
He said their overall medical system crashed and was quickly overwhelmed.
I didn't have the heart to tell him my theory... tinfoil it may be.
...that India simply has too many humans occupying too small square footage of land. Over 1.3 BILLION PEOPLE!
Millions of them bath and void themselves in the Ganges. :shrug:
I've read where only about 40% of Indians have access to a flush toilet. When the population is over a billion, that leaves a heck of a lot people taking a dump in the bushes.
It seems many Indians believe doing your business inside your house is unsanitary.
Oh well. The wife and I do not plan on visiting India any time in the near or distant future.
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A family member spent some time a few years ago in Varanasi. DCP was not exaggerating when speaking of the Ganges.
The wealth gap US pols complain of is dwarfed by the gap in India. The movie is fiction, but the conditions shown in "Slumdog Millionaire" are fairly realistic.
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Very well, point made.
There were treatment options bandied about, so long as Donald Trump did not mention them.
Monoclonal antibodies and Remdesivir were two I distinctly recall being pushed, then ...crickets....
I notice you left out the Zelenko protocol being announced, explained, and then rapidly censored (I admit to being unsure of those dates) and the jihad against hydroxychloroquine, UV treatment, and others, but that's okay.
The media were hell-bent on discrediting treatments that were not hideously expensive and largely of questionable efficacy, as was the medical establishment in the spotlight--if it was inexpensive, available, and would stop the panic, it got short shrift or attacked.
The focus seemed on inciting and maintaining levels of panic in the general public that Richard Adams described in Watership Down as going "tharn".
(This was essential in the grand scheme of things to push for voting by remote means, usually mail or drop boxes, which enabled the Steal of 2020. Whether by accident or design, this was panic was maintained and fully exploited. It was also important to impose the draconian measures which devastated the "Trump" economy, and that, too, was done--and still is.)
Eventually, the vaccine was seen as the only panacea, and any discussion of preemptive treatments (early onset, which were not hideously expensive) pretty much fell by the wayside, unles you were paying attention to the Aussies using Ivermectin (another antiparasitic, and an ionophore) with doxycycline and zinc.
The problem here is that people were told to get tested (day 4 or 5 of the disease, symptoms appear), and to wait (isolate) for results. The more delayed the results, the more severe the disease by the time they were confirmed, the worse off the patient was.
Instead, Zelenko advocated the administration of the three part protocol of Hydroxychloroquine (primarily and ionophore to get zinc into the Type 1 Pneumocytes the disease targets) an antibiotic (azithromycin, a macrolide antibiotic which not only protects against bacterial infection, but has the idiopathic effect of toning down the immune response to prevent a cytokine event) and zinc, the ion that interferes with viral replication in the cells. In the event the patient tested negative, no harm was likely, and some resistance was provided--the protocol has a prophylactic effect as well--and in the event they were positive, recovery (without needing hospitalization) was accelerated. Very few patients who followed this protocol were hospitalized.
You'd think the medical establishment would have been ecstatic (and some were, but were as quickly censored as Zelenko's YouTube, which laid out the pharmacological strategy, described in near layman's terms how it worked, what each part of the protocol did, and gave dosages he had used in practice. Nope. He got 'cancelled', using poorly conducted studies as "evidence" to justify that cancellation. Now, he has been nominated (not awarded as previously reported) for a Nobel.
So the Nobel prize report was BS... That's too bad.
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So the Nobel prize report was BS... That's too bad.
Nomination, not an award.
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Here's what is says further below Reuters' fear-porn headline:
No reason to believe. None. Zip. Nada.
Agree. It is a cold virus. Many mutations. More and more ads say bleach, or disinfectant kills coronavirus.
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More and more ads say bleach, or disinfectant kills coronavirus.
With this virus, alcohol is more effective than bleach.
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With this virus, alcohol is more effective than bleach.
Are you drinking to dull the news broadcasts or trying to kill on surfaces?
Joking aside, Hydrogen Peroxide seems to be prefered by many of the nursing folks. I believe all three are reasonably effective.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cleaning/common-household-products-that-can-destroy-novel-coronavirus/
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@thackney
DHS released experiment results on virus half-life 13 months ago. Didn't see peroxide mentioned, but half-life with iso-propanol was considerably shorter than bleach. It surprised me since I long considered bleach to be supreme when it comes to killing stuff.
I seem to recall bleach was something like 10 seconds while iso-propanol was around 3 seconds. Yes, bleach kills it. But alcohol kills it quicker. All of this of course was lost on a Democrat Party Media intent on pushing the false narrative that Trump told everyone to start mainlining bleach.
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@thackney
DHS released experiment results on virus half-life 13 months ago. Didn't see peroxide mentioned, but half-life with iso-propanol was considerably shorter than bleach. It surprised me since I long considered bleach to be supreme when it comes to killing stuff.
I seem to recall bleach was something like 10 seconds while iso-propanol was around 3 seconds. Yes, bleach kills it. But alcohol kills it quicker. All of this of course was lost on a Democrat Party Media intent on pushing the false narrative that Trump told everyone to start mainlining bleach.
Nebulized Hydrogen Peroxide would kill the virus in the upper respiratory tract.
Hydrogen Peroxide: Inhaling Disinfectant for Coronavirus Treatment?
https://www.hollywoodlanews.com/hydrogen-peroxide-disinfectant-coronavirus-treatment/
(https://www.hollywoodlanews.com/hydrogen-peroxide-disinfectant-coronavirus-treatment/)