The Briefing Room
General Category => National/Breaking News => Second Amendment => Topic started by: libertybele on April 07, 2021, 07:43:12 pm
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So, explain to me how you do a background check on guns that are homemade without serial numbers??
I anticipate his e.o. will extend far beyond this.
Biden to announce new executive actions on guns
President Joe Biden plans to announce new executive actions on guns on Thursday, a person familiar with the plans said, fulfilling a commitment he made in the aftermath of two deadly shootings last month.
Biden has been considering requiring background checks on so-called ghost guns along with other measures that would strengthen existing gun laws.
The extent of Thursday's announcement, which was first reported by Politico, wasn't immediately clear, and the White House did not elaborate.
"I expect the President will have more to say tomorrow," press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters during a daily briefing.
Biden said last month following a mass shooting in Colorado, "I don't need to wait another minute, let alone an hour, to take common sense steps that will save lives in the future."
Ghost guns are handmade or self-assembled firearms that don't have serial numbers. The action would officially classify them as firearms, therefore requiring a background check, according to administration officials.
The move would be in line with recommendations from gun safety advocacy groups who are consulting with the White House.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/07/politics/biden-executive-actions-guns/index.html
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So, explain to me how you do a background check on guns that are homemade without serial numbers??
The background checks are on the buyer not the gun. I am guessing this means background checks on the person choosing to make the gun and file for permission.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-individual-need-license-make-firearm-personal-use
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Can I Sell or Give My Homemade Gun to Another Person?
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/can-i-sell-or-give-my-homemade-gun-another-person.htm (https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/can-i-sell-or-give-my-homemade-gun-another-person.htm)
Transferring a homemade gun may be legal if the owner made it and intended to keep it at the time.
Additional Identifying Marks
Federal law does not require a homemade gun to have an identifying marker (such as a serial number), as long as it remains in the possession of the original maker. However, if the gun is subsequently sold or otherwise transferred, it should be marked prior to its disposition. The ATF suggests that all homemade firearms be marked with a serial number as a safeguard in the event the firearm is lost or stolen, but requires it if the gun is otherwise lawfully transferred in the future.
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White House announces 6 ‘initial’ executive actions on gun control
Biden targets 'ghost guns,' stabilizing braces in new gun control actions; POTUS will also name gun control advocate as ATF director
Breaking 911, Apr7, 2021
Read the full layout below.
Today, the Biden-Harris Administration is announcing six initial actions to address the gun violence public health epidemic. The recent high-profile mass shootings in Boulder – taking the lives of 10 individuals – and Atlanta – taking the lives of eight individuals, including six Asian American women – underscored the relentlessness of this epidemic. Gun violence takes lives and leaves a lasting legacy of trauma in communities every single day in this country, even when it is not on the nightly news. In fact, cities across the country are in the midst of a historic spike in homicides, violence that disproportionately impacts Black and brown Americans. The President is committed to taking action to reduce all forms of gun violence – community violence, mass shootings, domestic violence, and suicide by firearm.
President Biden is reiterating his call for Congress to pass legislation to reduce gun violence. Last month, a bipartisan coalition in the House passed two bills to close loopholes in the gun background check system. Congress should close those loopholes and go further, including by closing “boyfriend†and stalking loopholes that currently allow people found by the courts to be abusers to possess firearms, banning assault weapons and high capacity magazines, repealing gun manufacturers’ immunity from liability, and investing in evidence-based community violence interventions. Congress should also pass an appropriate national “red flag†law, as well as legislation incentivizing states to pass “red flag†laws of their own.
But this Administration will not wait for Congress to act to take its own steps – fully within the Administration’s authority and the Second Amendment – to save lives. Today, the Administration is announcing the following six initial actions:
The Justice Department, within 30 days, will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of “ghost guns.†We are experiencing a growing problem: criminals are buying kits containing nearly all of the components and directions for finishing a firearm within as little as 30 minutes and using these firearms to commit crimes. When these firearms turn up at crime scenes, they often cannot be traced by law enforcement due to the lack of a serial number. The Justice Department will issue a proposed rule to help stop the proliferation of these firearms.
The Justice Department, within 60 days, will issue a proposed rule to make clear when a device marketed as a stabilizing brace effectively turns a pistol into a short-barreled rifle subject to the requirements of the National Firearms Act. The alleged shooter in the Boulder tragedy last month appears to have used a pistol with an arm brace, which can make a firearm more stable and accurate while still being concealable.
The Justice Department, within 60 days, will publish model “red flag†legislation for states. Red flag laws allow family members or law enforcement to petition for a court order temporarily barring people in crisis from accessing firearms if they present a danger to themselves or others. The President urges Congress to pass an appropriate national “red flag†law, as well as legislation incentivizing states to pass “red flag†laws of their own. In the interim, the Justice Department’s published model legislation will make it easier for states that want to adopt red flag laws to do so.
More: https://breaking911.com/breaking-white-house-announces-6-initial-executive-actions-on-gun-control/
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:bkmk:
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Will pieces of pipe and steel tubing be defined as "Ghost Guns" as they can easily be made into shotguns?
(https://homemadeguns.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/pipe_slamshotgun.jpg?w=625)
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BREAKING: Biden Announces 6 Gun Control Executive Actions — And It’s Just the Beginning
by Kyle Becker
President Joe Biden announced 6 initial executive actions on gun control on Wednesday night. The White House has dubbed them “Initial Actions to Address the Gun Violence Public Health Epidemic.â€
The following are the executive orders, as detailed by the Biden administration:
oday, the Biden-Harris Administration is announcing six initial actions to address the gun violence public health epidemic. The recent high-profile mass shootings in Boulder – taking the lives of 10 individuals – and Atlanta – taking the lives of eight individuals, including six Asian American women – underscored the relentlessness of this epidemic. Gun violence takes lives and leaves a lasting legacy of trauma in communities every single day in this country, even when it is not on the nightly news. In fact, cities across the country are in the midst of a historic spike in homicides, violence that disproportionately impacts Black and brown Americans. The President is committed to taking action to reduce all forms of gun violence – community violence, mass shootings, domestic violence, and suicide by firearm.
President Biden is reiterating his call for Congress to pass legislation to reduce gun violence. Last month, a bipartisan coalition in the House passed two bills to close loopholes in the gun background check system. Congress should close those loopholes and go further, including by closing “boyfriend†and stalking loopholes that currently allow people found by the courts to be abusers to possess firearms, banning assault weapons and high capacity magazines, repealing gun manufacturers’ immunity from liability, and investing in evidence-based community violence interventions. Congress should also pass an appropriate national “red flag†law, as well as legislation incentivizing states to pass “red flag†laws of their own.
But this Administration will not wait for Congress to act to take its own steps – fully within the Administration’s authority and the Second Amendment – to save lives. Today, the Administration is announcing the following six initial actions:
more
https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-biden-announces-6-gun-control-executive-actions-and-its-just-the-beginning-knab/
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The pending "red flag laws" are the biggest concern here.
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Merged
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And yet again the Left wants to pass "laws" that don't do anything to address the root causes of gun violence and none of that Biden is proposing will stop the next mass shooting.
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Biden lying his head off.
Jesse Kelly
@JesseKellyDC
Joe Biden giving a speech on restricting guns as his son is under investigation for committing a felony while buying a gun actually sums up the Biden presidency pretty well.
12:15 PM · Apr 8, 2021·
Caleb Hull
@CalebJHull
Joe Biden just claimed adding a "stabilizing brace" to an AR-pistol makes it "more lethal."
This is literally not true and one of the most insane things I've ever heard on the topic of guns.
12:14 PM · Apr 8, 2021
Daily Caller
@DailyCaller
2m
President Biden says that pistol braces "make that pistol a hell of a lot more accurate than a mini rifle. As a result, it's more lethal, effectively turning it into a short-barreled rifle."
12:15 PM · Apr 8, 2021
22222frying pan
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1. - Gun Trafficking Study
2. - Ghost guns
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3 Braces make SBRs
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4.Publish Model Resolutions on Red Flag Laws.
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5. Empower Communities to Combat Gun Violence.
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5. Empower Communities to Combat Gun Violence.
6. Appoint an anti gun retard as ATF director.
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Anna James Zeigler
@ajzeigler
They say so much about guns, yet they know so little about guns.
1:20 PM · Apr 8, 2021
Actually, it's fill in the blank - replace "guns" with biology, climate, national defense, economics ... this administration knows nothing, period.
Rising serpent
@rising_serpent
Joe Biden just said that no amendment to the Constitution is absolute.
That is a direct attack on the Constitution and grounds for impeachment.
12:56 PM · Apr 8, 2021·
Yes, indeed, that's what he said. Add "Constitution" to the above list of things this doddering old fool knows nothing about.
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Josh Hawley
@HawleyMO
Joe Biden saying the Second Amendment is a “phony argument†- which about sums up his view of the Constitution in general
Video: https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1380209918423220227
1:24 PM · Apr 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
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The Columbia Bugle
@ColumbiaBugle
Rambling Mess
Daily Caller
@DailyCaller · 2h
BIDEN: "You go to a gun show, you can buy whatever you want--no background check."
Video: https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1380206667644592128
1:11 PM · Apr 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
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NRA
@NRA
Let's be clear as we're watching this Biden circus.
These actions could require Americans to surrender lawful property, push states to expand confiscation orders, and put a gun control lobbyist to head ATF.
Biden is dismantling the 2nd Amendment.
It's time to STAND and FIGHT!
12:08 PM · Apr 8, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/NRA/status/1380190853889732619
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As an individual you can sell a weapon without having an FFL and without the buyer having to undergo a background check. Also an individual, at least could, in the gun-shows I have frequented, could rent a table and sell firearms and the buyers would not be required to undergo a background check. I had a non ffl co-worker who went to many gunshows selling firearms without a ffl and not requiring background checks. Over time though, the ATF noticed and told him to get a ffl before they saw him again at a gun show. He is now a full time firearm dealer specializing in NFA weapons.
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??? Sloe Joe is stating that "no amendment is absolute"??? Newsflash for ya Joe what you are doing is NOT an amendment to the 2A. The amendment is a process that does NOT fall under the executive branch! Therefore, YOU are infringing on the 2A!!!
Where is the outrage on this?? Why aren't our GOP Congressmen and Senators screaming foul from the rooftops??? 9999hair out0000
Biden announces slate of gun control actions, claims 'public health crisis'
Biden insists proposals don't contravene the Second Amendment
President Biden on Thursday announced a set of executive actions and legislative proposals on gun control, saying that gun violence is "a public health crisis" and the administration's actions do not contravene Second Amendment rights.
The administration aims to "confront not just the gun crisis but what is actually a public health crisis," Biden said in his remarks in the Rose Garden. He was joined by Vice President Harris.
"Nothing I'm about to recommend in any way impinges on the Second Amendment," Biden said. "These are phony arguments suggesting that these are Second Amendment rights at stake from what we're talking about."
Continuing, Biden said: "But no amendment to the Constitution is absolute ... From the very beginning, you couldn't own any weapon you wanted to own. From the very beginning the Second Amendment existed, certain people weren't allowed to have weapons. So the idea is just bizarre to suggest that some of the things we're recommending are contrary to the Constitution.".............
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-guns-remarks-executive-actions
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
@mtgreenee
The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eycy7UOWEAI6_zA?format=jpg&name=small)
7:58 AM · Apr 8, 2021·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1380127807716651008
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Josh Hawley
@HawleyMO
Joe Biden saying the Second Amendment is a “phony argument†- which about sums up his view of the Constitution in general
Video: https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1380209918423220227
1:24 PM · Apr 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
@mtgreenee
The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eycy7UOWEAI6_zA?format=jpg&name=small)
7:58 AM · Apr 8, 2021·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1380127807716651008
Great pic -- blondes have more fun! happy77 :beer:
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6. Appoint an anti gun retard as ATF director.
The guy is a nut job...thinks the Branch Davidians used a .50 cal rifle to bring down two helicopters during the Waco siege.
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Biden: You can go to a gun show and buy anything you want without a background check"
Reporter to Jen Psaki during daily press brief: Does the President really believe you don't have to have a background check if you purchase a gun at a gunshow?
Psaki: "No that's not what the President believes"
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Joe Biden to Congress: ‘Enough Prayers, Time for Some Action’ on Gun Control
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/08/joe-biden-congress-enough-prayers-time-some-action-gun-control/
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The guy is a nut job...thinks the Branch Davidians used a .50 cal rifle to bring down two helicopters during the Waco siege.
True he is a nut job, but I believe he is a pathological liar and has been most of his life, to the extent that he truly believes his own b.s.
Even worse, he actually believes people believe him!
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Marjorie Taylor Greene
@mtgreenee
The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eycy7UOWEAI6_zA?format=jpg&name=small)
7:58 AM · Apr 8, 2021·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1380127807716651008
Looks like MTG is left eye dominant.
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Looks like MTG is left eye dominant.
Anyone? Trying to figure out what type of sweet weapon is she using?
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Looks like MTG is left eye dominant.
I wish I'd never heard about eye dominance. I was halfway thru a Pistol Marksmanship class at the U of H when the instructor brought up eye dominance. It screwed me up being right handed and left eye dominant until I just yet again went back to shooting the way I always did and forget all about that eye dominance crap. I wonder if they still have that class in this day and age.
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Anyone? Trying to figure out what type of sweet weapon is she using?
"mk18" assault rifle?
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All eyes are on the Floyd trial. ALL EYES should be more focused on what Biden and his liberal lunatics are doing to the 2A!
This is only the beginning. Once riots erupt after the trial, we can expect more infringement on the 2A. Count on it.
Again, what are our GOP Senators and Congressmen doing besides sitting back and doing nothing?
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Biden Lies About Background Checks & More During Anti-Gun Presser
By Tom Knighton | Apr 08, 2021 12:38 PM ET
Well, ladies and gents, the wait is over.
We all knew this day would come. Today, we have it. President Joe Biden has issued a number of executive orders relating to gun control. ...
Next, he took issue with AR-style pistols. This isn’t overly surprising considering the shooter in Boulder used such a weapon. In particular, he focused on pistol braces, which he claimed makes these weapons more lethal than a rifle.
Yes, roll your eyes. I did.
Basically, Biden wants to start treating these pistols–at least those with the braces–like they’re short-barreled rifles and subject to the National Firearms Act. That could turn millions of legal gun owners into criminals overnight, unless they registered their legally purchased firearms with the federal government. ...
During his speech, Biden claimed if you go to a gun show, you can buy anything you want without a background check. Of course, that’s patently false. He also said pretty much the same thing about buying a gun on the internet. ...
More at Bearing Arms (https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/04/08/biden-lies-background-checks-anti-gun-presser-n43251)
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Biden Lies About Background Checks & More During Anti-Gun Presser
By Tom Knighton | Apr 08, 2021 12:38 PM ETMore at Bearing Arms (https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/04/08/biden-lies-background-checks-anti-gun-presser-n43251)
Does Sloe Joe even know his head from his azz (sorry folks, but I've had enough) these days are does he really believe that we're so stupid that we believe him?
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Like clockwork, there was a shooting today:
Potential Mass Shooting Reported In Bryan Texas
By Tom Knighton | Apr 08, 2021 5:35 PM ET
Details are still preliminary, but there appears to be a potential mass shooting in Bryan, Texas.
From The Eagle (https://theeagle.com/news/local/authorities-at-scene-of-reported-shooting-at-kent-moore-cabinets-corporate-office-in-bryan/article_494e8d74-98a4-11eb-9a18-bf1ec6211fe4.html#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social): Authorities responded to a shooting at Kent Moore Cabinets in Bryan Thursday afternoon.
According to scanner traffic, two ambulances have left the scene in the 300 block of Stone City Drive in Bryan and are headed to St. Joseph Hospital, and six more have been dispatched to the Brazos County Industrial Park.
The shooting happened around 2:30 p.m., according to Bryan police. …
Bryan Police Lt. Jason James said no one was in custody. James confirmed several people had been injuries, but not other details were immediately released.
Bearing Arms (https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/04/08/mass-shooting-reported-in-bryan-texas-n43280)
The shooter is in custody. (https://theeagle.com/news/local/authorities-at-scene-of-reported-shooting-at-kent-moore-cabinets-corporate-office-in-bryan/article_494e8d74-98a4-11eb-9a18-bf1ec6211fe4.html#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social)
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Does Sloe Joe even know his head from his azz (sorry folks, but I've had enough) these days are does he really believe that we're so stupid that we believe him?
Lying is all China Joe does. It’s all any of them do.
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Time for other states to join:
West Virginia attorney general threatens to sue Biden over gun measures
Jordan Williams 5 hrs ago
West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey (R) on Thursday threatened to sue the Biden administration over President Biden's proposed gun safety measures.
Morrisey issued a statement threatening to be in court "very quickly" if Biden follows through on his proposals, which the president unveiled at the White House Rose Garden on Thursday.
"Defending the Second Amendment remains one of the most important priorities for the West Virginia Attorney General's Office," Morrisey said. "I will not allow the far left to run roughshod over our citizens' gun rights. If President Biden follows through on his proposals, we will be in court very quickly." ...
The Hill (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/west-virginia-attorney-general-threatens-to-sue-biden-over-gun-measures/ar-BB1frAu4)
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The pending "red flag laws" are the biggest concern here.
Every single state and the District already have "Red Flag Laws". The problem is that many family members don't want to use them for several reasons:
1) The Stigma attached to mental illness
2) They don't want to stir up trouble with family members, even if the reason is justified.
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Every single state and the District already have "Red Flag Laws". The problem is that many family members don't want to use them for several reasons:
1) The Stigma attached to mental illness
2) They don't want to stir up trouble with family members, even if the reason is justified.
Plus it makes it less likely that people will seek help for mental illness.
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"mk18" assault rifle?
AR-14? Pretty sure the liberals will tell me it's a Ma Deuce with grenade and min missile launcher and fully silenced making ten times more deadly.
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AR-14? Pretty sure the liberals will tell me it's a Ma Deuce with grenade and min missile launcher and fully silenced making ten times more deadly.
Armalite AR-14?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUMd40J-Tl8k0RtAZGoWY9BrNTWR1Wnw0OJw&usqp=CAU)
No. Daniel Defense MK18
https://danieldefense.com/socom-mk18.html
(https://danieldefense.com/media/catalog/product/cache/57787b00c9d0d809fcf82071201be77f/m/k/mk18-socom.jpg)
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Tucker is on a roll!!! :patriot:
The Columbia Bugle
@ColumbiaBugle
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@TuckerCarlson's Monologue Exposing Biden's Gun Control Agenda & ATF Nominee
"Gun control is not about guns, gun control is about who controls America. Is it the population, as in a democracy? Or does all control go to a small group of authoritarians, as in an oligarchy?"
Video: https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1380353746589282307
10:55 PM · Apr 8, 2021·Twitter Media Studio
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And yet again the Left wants to pass "laws" that don't do anything to address the root causes of gun violence and none of that Biden is proposing will stop the next mass shooting.
The Rodents don't want to stop the violence. Quite the opposite. If there was no gun-related violence, they wouldn't have an argument to expand their fascist agenda.
They LOVE the high body counts. Especially if children are slaughtered.
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As an individual you can sell a weapon without having an FFL and without the buyer having to undergo a background check. Also an individual, at least could, in the gun-shows I have frequented, could rent a table and sell firearms and the buyers would not be required to undergo a background check. I had a non ffl co-worker who went to many gunshows selling firearms without a ffl and not requiring background checks. Over time though, the ATF noticed and told him to get a ffl before they saw him again at a gun show. He is now a full time firearm dealer specializing in NFA weapons.
That's all fine and good.
There should not be "background checks" to exercise a constitutional right.
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Trying to picture undergoing a background check before expressing an opinion, I.e., exercising my First Amendment rights. :pondering:
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I the Mpls St. Paul area, most people people selling hand guns require a carry permit, which means you have gone through the state of MN background check. Background checks are voluntary in a person to person sale, you could walk into any gun store and pay the fee, file the background papers and walk out.
The local State system is much better at sorting out problems than the federal system. (Which is always the case now)
Most people are already doing following this recommendation now.