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Title: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Elderberry on August 20, 2018, 02:10:56 am
The Post & Email by Sharon Rondeau 8/19/2018

JUNIOR CA SENATOR MAY RUN IN 2020

Given that California Sen. Kamala Harris’s Wikipedia biography states that she was born in Oakland, CA in 1964 to immigrant parents and speculation exists that she plans to run for president in 2020, Golden State citizen Gary Wilmott has been seeking information as to her citizenship status and whether or not she meets the constitutional requirement of “natural born Citizen.”

The Wikipedia entry states that Harris’s mother, Dr. Shyamala G. Harris, was from India, arriving in Berkeley, CA in 1960.

Dr. Harris passed away in February 2009.  Her “Legacy” obituary states that she arrived alone in the U.S. at the age of 19 after having earned her undergraduate degree from Delhi University.

Kamala’s father, Donald Harris, is a retired Stanford University economics professor whose biography affirms that he arrived in the U.S. in 1961 as an “Issa Scholar” from Jamaica.  It adds that he was born in Jamaica and naturalized in the U.S. but does not provide the year.

Neither parent reportedly was present in the U.S. as a legal resident for five years prior to Harris’s birth, a requirement to apply for naturalization, Wilmott observed in an interview with The Post & Email on Thursday.

After her parents divorced when she was seven, Wikipedia reports, Harris’s mother was granted full custody of her two daughters, after which they moved to Quebec, Canada.   Dr. Harris’s obituary, reposted at SFGate on March 22, 2009, states that her medical research took her to McGill University in Montreal for 16 years.  It further reads, in part:

Her passion for science was augmented by a fervent commitment to social justice. While a student at Berkeley in the ’60s, she became fully engaged in the Civil Rights Movement, leading to a lifelong fight against injustice, racial discrimination and intolerance. She instilled these values in her daughters, who in turn have dedicated their lives to the pursuit of justice and equality – one as the first female elected District Attorney of SF and the other as vice president of Peace and Social Justice at the Ford Foundation in NY.

According to Wikipedia, Harris graduated from Westmount High School in Westmount, Quebec, presumably in 1981 or 1982.  However, Harris’s U.S. Senate biography does not say that she lived and obtained most of her public education in Canada:

Growing up in Oakland, Kamala had a stroller-eye view of the Civil Rights movement. Through the example of courageous leaders like Thurgood Marshall, Constance Baker Motley, and Charles Hamilton Houston, Kamala learned the kind of character it requires to stand up to the powerful, and resolved to spend her life advocating for those who could not defend themselves. 

Wilmott considers a “natural born Citizen” to be an individual born to two U.S.-citizen parents subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.  He openly admits that his own birth in the United Kingdom to then-British-citizen parents disqualifies him from that subset of Americans.

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Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: endicom on August 20, 2018, 02:21:34 am

Was Barry Goldwater eligible?
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Elderberry on August 20, 2018, 02:31:54 am
Was Barry Goldwater eligible?

Good question.

Barry Goldwater was born in Phoenix, in what was then the incorporated Arizona Territory of the United States. During his presidential campaign in 1964, there was a minor controversy over Goldwater's having been born in Arizona three years before it became a state.[102]
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Elderberry on August 20, 2018, 02:38:22 am
I would think that since Arizona was a territory of the US, Goldwater should be a NBC.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: mountaineer on August 20, 2018, 02:55:22 am
Was Barry Goldwater eligible?
Isn't it a little late to worry about it? Is Harris eligible? 

Looking at the career paths of Kamala, her mother and sister,  all I can say is, "What a waste!" Geez, do something productive.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: corbe on August 20, 2018, 03:01:27 am
   Someone with Standing AND experience with arguing cases before the Supreme Court needs to take care of this $hit before 2020, if Trump does get 'Burnt Out'.   /JS

 (http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/5510713869beddd750a1aaa0-2125-1594/ted-cruz.jpg?maxX=600)
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Emjay on August 20, 2018, 03:30:25 am
   Someone with Standing AND experience with arguing cases before the Supreme Court needs to take care of this $hit before 2020, if Trump does get 'Burnt Out'.   /JS

 (http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/5510713869beddd750a1aaa0-2125-1594/ted-cruz.jpg?maxX=600)

I would not count on that @corbe   I first thought Trump wanted to be President but would get bored with 'doing' President.  I've changed my mind on that.  I think it energizes him and he almost enjoys the attacks and getting back at the people who make them.

But I still hope to see Ted Cruz as President.  It's unusual for the same party to get in after 8 years but if the democrat party continues to disintegrate, we might see it.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: corbe on August 20, 2018, 03:41:17 am
   Good point @Emjay if it's true Trump won't be happy just doing the 8 that GWB, Reagan and Eisenhower did, he may want to outdo FDR.   
   I wont live to see it.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 20, 2018, 04:29:39 am
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!   
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 20, 2018, 04:36:45 am
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!

@LegalAmerican

That is the second time in two days I've seen you post that crap about Cruz being on some "madam's list". Now is the time to offer real proof of such a scurrilous charge.

Considering how you have forgiven Trump for his dozens of peccadillos, why even bring up this fake news about Cruz?

Unlike @corbe , I no longer view your posts as humorous. They're the pathetic ramblings of an ill-informed, undereducated cretin.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Emjay on August 20, 2018, 05:07:40 am
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!

That is a vile rumor @LegalAmerican   As far as I know, you are the only person to be spreading it around.

Ted Cruz is a fine man, a family man and a true conservative.  A post like that just makes you look crazy.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Emjay on August 20, 2018, 05:08:34 am
   Good point @Emjay if it's true Trump won't be happy just doing the 8 that GWB, Reagan and Eisenhower did, he may want to outdo FDR.   
   I wont live to see it.

You know perfectly well that Trump cannot serve 3 times.  I don't think even he would attempt such a thing.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Applewood on August 20, 2018, 07:03:32 am
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!

First of all, what good work?

Secondly, how can Ted Cruz sign a trade agreement?  He's not authorized.

Third, I suppose you also thinkTed Cruz's father plotted with Oswald to kill JFK too.  Do you really consider the National Enquirer and Alex Jones sources of real news?  If you do, you aren't as bright as you think. 

By the way, your god, Trump, helped spread those bogus stories about Ted Cruz in order to win the primaries and become the Republican nominee for president.  Do you really like having a liar for president?  What makes you think he tells the truth in his Twitter posts and elsewhere?
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 20, 2018, 11:52:51 am
Kamala Harris born 1964 in Oakland California.


Yes she is eligible.



Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 20, 2018, 11:57:24 am
Kamala Harris born 1964 in Oakland California.  Yes she is eligible.

Are you saying a natural born citizens for purposes of qualifying to be the President of the United States is to be born on American soil?

@kevindavis
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 20, 2018, 11:59:39 am
Secondly, how can Ted Cruz sign a trade agreement? 

Okay, let's change that to Cruz "signed onto" TPP.  Feel better @Applewood ?
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2018, 12:19:12 pm
Well, she's a Rat, so yeah she's eligible.  She's a Two-Fer.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 20, 2018, 12:23:55 pm
Are you saying a natural born citizens for purposes of qualifying to be the President of the United States is to be born on American soil?

@kevindavis


Yep...
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: jpsb on August 20, 2018, 12:26:58 pm
First of all, what good work?

Secondly, how can Ted Cruz sign a trade agreement?  He's not authorized.

Third, I suppose you also thinkTed Cruz's father plotted with Oswald to kill JFK too.  Do you really consider the National Enquirer and Alex Jones sources of real news?  If you do, you aren't as bright as you think. 

By the way, your god, Trump, helped spread those bogus stories about Ted Cruz in order to win the primaries and become the Republican nominee for president.  Do you really like having a liar for president?  What makes you think he tells the truth in his Twitter posts and elsewhere?

There is no way in hell (under original intent) the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a natural born
citizen of the United States of America. Without a Counselor Report of Birth Abroad (Ted doesn't
have one) Ted Cruz is technically an illegal alien. There is also very good reason to believe Ted
mom had Canadian citizenship at the time of Ted's birth.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: XenaLee on August 20, 2018, 12:41:53 pm
@LegalAmerican

That is the second time in two days I've seen you post that crap about Cruz being on some "madam's list". Now is the time to offer real proof of such a scurrilous charge.

Considering how you have forgiven Trump for his dozens of peccadillos, why even bring up this fake news about Cruz?

Unlike @corbe , I no longer view your posts as humorous. They're the pathetic ramblings of an ill-informed, undereducated cretin.

I think we're gonna need some of this....

(http://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/chillout-room/278962-makers-troll-spray-trollbgone.gif)
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: mountaineer on August 20, 2018, 12:59:25 pm
Kamala Harris born 1964 in Oakland California.

Yes she is eligible.
As I understand the question, the place of her birth is not the issue. It's the thing about her non-citizen parents and five years' residency. I'm not going to delve into this one any deeper, however, as the real threat to be the Dem candidate may not be Harris but Sherod Brown of Ohio (who's busy playing the role of fake moderate).
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: jmyrlefuller on August 20, 2018, 01:12:49 pm
Are you saying a natural born citizens for purposes of qualifying to be the President of the United States is to be born on American soil?

@kevindavis
It is one such way, so long as said person is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2018, 03:15:14 pm
As I understand the question, the place of her birth is not the issue. It's the thing about her non-citizen parents and five years' residency. I'm not going to delve into this one any deeper, however, as the real threat to be the Dem candidate may not be Harris but Sherod Brown of Ohio (who's busy playing the role of fake moderate).

I think this was settled during the Obastard Admin.  Nobody can possibly have the standing to sue, even other candidates and electors.  That's how the numerous suits ended at SCOTUS.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Applewood on August 20, 2018, 03:32:16 pm
There is no way in hell (under original intent) the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a natural born
citizen of the United States of America. Without a Counselor Report of Birth Abroad (Ted doesn't
have one) Ted Cruz is technically an illegal alien. There is also very good reason to believe Ted
mom had Canadian citizenship at the time of Ted's birth.


I understand there were rumors Mrs. Cruz was not an American citizen, but I don't know if it was ever proven. 

I was one of those who argued about this NBC issue for months when Cruz was in the running for the presidency, but in the end, I think the only way this whole thing is going to ever be resolved is through an appeal before SCOTUS.  Certainly can't depend on the lazy, corrupt lumps in congress to pass clear, concise legislation accurately defining once and for all the term "Natural Born Citizen."  Hell, some of them would probably want to make an illegal or a so-called Middle East refugee presidency without any kind of citizenship at all.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Applewood on August 20, 2018, 03:42:57 pm
Okay, let's change that to Cruz "signed onto" TPP.  Feel better @Applewood ?

No, he didn't sign on to anything either.     


The real story is here (and don't give me any blather about the source; it's correct):

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/10/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-i-always-opposed-tpp-trans-pacific-partne/ (https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/10/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-i-always-opposed-tpp-trans-pacific-partne/)


Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2018, 03:45:54 pm

I understand there were rumors Mrs. Cruz was not an American citizen, but I don't know if it was ever proven. 

I was one of those who argued about this NBC issue for months when Cruz was in the running for the presidency, but in the end, I think the only way this whole thing is going to ever be resolved is through an appeal before SCOTUS.  Certainly can't depend on the lazy, corrupt lumps in congress to pass clear, concise legislation accurately defining once and for all the term "Natural Born Citizen."  Hell, some of them would probably want to make an illegal or a so-called Middle East refugee presidency without any kind of citizenship at all.

SCOTUS did nothing but muddy up the NBC waters during the Obastard Reign of Terror.  IIRC, it threw out every case that ever came to it on the subject.  There were some cases that never made it to SCOTUS (OK, briefs written in pink crayon with little hearts drawn as the dots in the ''I'' don't count).  I don't think one case was ever heard on the merits, in any District Court.  As a result, anybody can be any nationality they choose for the convenience of the moment.

Want to claim Kenyan citizenship to get a scholarship?  Later claim US when running for Preezy of the United Steezy?  Go for it.

I'm aware I could be wrong on this.  Media coverage was very poor and when it existed, it was to scoff at people on the right and conflate them with the 9/11 ''truthers'' and moon-landing conspiracies.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2018, 03:47:16 pm
No, he didn't sign on to anything either.     


The real story is here (and don't give me any blather about the source; it's correct):

ttps://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/10/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-i-always-opposed-tpp-trans-pacific-partne/

Killjoy.   

:BangComp:
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: sneakypete on August 20, 2018, 04:44:17 pm
As I understand the question, the place of her birth is not the issue. It's the thing about her non-citizen parents and five years' residency. I'm not going to delve into this one any deeper, however, as the real threat to be the Dem candidate may not be Harris but Sherod Brown of Ohio (who's busy playing the role of fake moderate).

@mountaineer

The Dims like to throw out these bomb throwers as likely candidates so that when the election if finally happening,their actual candidate seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2018, 05:33:34 pm
@mountaineer

The Dims like to throw out these bomb throwers as likely candidates so that when the election if finally happening,their actual candidate seems reasonable.

That explains the Howie Dean/Jon Carry switcheroo...
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on August 20, 2018, 05:52:06 pm
Yes, she is.

There is no way in hell that the Supreme Court is going to interpret the 14th Amendment so as to make ineligible for the Presidency someone born on U.S. soil, to anyone other than a foreign diplomat.

But, I feel confident in predicting that de Vattel will soon make an appearance for the 200th go round of this argument.....
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: kevindavis007 on August 20, 2018, 05:53:38 pm
Yes, she is.

There is no way in hell that the Supreme Court is going to interpret the 14th Amendment so as to make ineligible for the Presidency someone born on U.S. soil, to anyone other than a foreign diplomat.

But, I feel confident in predicting that de Vattel will soon make an appearance for the 200th go round of this argument.....


or the Dentist turned lawyer..
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on August 20, 2018, 05:56:39 pm
There is no way in hell (under original intent)....

When you say "original intent", to what are you referring?  To the intent of those who ratified the Constitution in the 1780's, or to the intent of those who passed the 14th Amendment?
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 20, 2018, 06:21:55 pm
When you say "original intent", to what are you referring?  To the intent of those who ratified the Constitution in the 1780's, or to the intent of those who passed the 14th Amendment?

An academic question, because the operating intent is whatever 5 Judges on the SCOTUS decide it is on a given day. 
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Idiot on August 20, 2018, 07:14:52 pm
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!
What is the color of the sky in your world?
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Fishrrman on August 21, 2018, 12:29:50 am
The question:
"Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?"

I think not, but in any case...
... the time to start gathering information on her is NOW.

If we wait, she may use the days ahead to "bury" much of her past like obama did before her.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: The_Reader_David on August 21, 2018, 12:48:40 am
Are you saying a natural born citizens for purposes of qualifying to be the President of the United States is to be born on American soil?

@kevindavis

It is fairly clear that "natural born citizen" is now generally regarded as analogous to Blackstone's "natural born subject", rather than to Vattel's "natives", so, yes.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on August 21, 2018, 01:45:31 am
An academic question, because the operating intent is whatever 5 Judges on the SCOTUS decide it is on a given day.

This whole topic is academic.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Bigun on August 21, 2018, 01:46:45 am
When you say "original intent", to what are you referring?  To the intent of those who ratified the Constitution in the 1780's, or to the intent of those who passed the 14th Amendment?

In my case it's both!
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on August 21, 2018, 01:49:15 am
It is fairly clear that "natural born citizen" is now generally regarded as analogous to Blackstone's "natural born subject", rather than to Vattel's "natives", so, yes.

Well that's quite a shock.  I mean, who would have thought that a bunch of colonies whose own jurisprudence was based on English Common law, and which common law remained valid even after independence unless superceded by statute, would choose to follow the gold standard for English common law in Blackstone, rather than some continental lawyer in de Vattel?
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Bigun on August 21, 2018, 01:59:44 am
Well that's quite a shock.  I mean, who would have thought that a bunch of colonies whose own jurisprudence was based on English Common law, and which common law remained valid even after independence unless superceded by statute, would choose to follow the gold standard for English common law in Blackstone, rather than some continental lawyer in de Vattel?

@Maj. Bill Martin

 I would!  And they didn't because they couldn't given the fact that there was not going to be  any royalty in the newly formed Republic and thus no blood line ascendency to the presidency.

I have fought this battle before on this site and have no desire or intention to do it again so I'll leave it at this.  If this ever does make it's way into the courts I will assure you that your side WILL lose.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: jafo2010 on August 21, 2018, 05:06:52 am
Anyone believing Ted Cruz has a chance to be president one day is delusional.  He undid his future as a prespect when he did the dirty deed against Ben Carson in Iowa.  That single act proved, and it is etched in granite, that Cruz has no character.  NONE!

While I genrally like Sen Cruz, I would never vote for him as president. 

I think Sen Cruz has the same problem former Sen Santorum has/had.  Both are perceived as extreme.  Both are somewhat self destructive with their personna.  Neither will ever be president of the USA.

I look for our Vice President to follow Trump as president. 
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 21, 2018, 12:51:53 pm
This whole topic is academic.

10-4, good buddy.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on August 21, 2018, 03:40:25 pm
Anyone believing Ted Cruz has a chance to be president one day is delusional.  He undid his future as a prespect when he did the dirty deed against Ben Carson in Iowa.  That single act proved, and it is etched in granite, that Cruz has no character.  NONE!

I would wager than 95% of the American people have no clue what you're talking about.  I don't even remember it, and I followed the primaries much more than a typical voter. Maybe it's "etched in granite" somewhere, but nobody is reading the etching.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Bigun on August 21, 2018, 03:46:40 pm
I would wager than 95% of the American people have no clue what you're talking about.  I don't even remember it, and I followed the primaries much more than a typical voter. Maybe it's "etched in granite" somewhere, but nobody is reading the etching.

Hell man! HE doesn't even know what he's talking about!
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: jpsb on August 21, 2018, 03:53:33 pm
No, he didn't sign on to anything either.     


The real story is here (and don't give me any blather about the source; it's correct):

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/10/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-i-always-opposed-tpp-trans-pacific-partne/ (https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/10/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-i-always-opposed-tpp-trans-pacific-partne/)


Which is why he wrote and op-ed in the Wall Street Journal supporting fast tracking TPP. /s

Putting Congress in Charge on Trade (https://www.wsj.com/articles/putting-congress-in-charge-on-trade-1429659409")

Ted Cruz is a known liar, but he is a professional politician so lying is part of his trade craft.




Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: jpsb on August 21, 2018, 04:02:43 pm
When you say "original intent", to what are you referring?  To the intent of those who ratified the Constitution in the 1780's, or to the intent of those who passed the 14th Amendment?

The 14th has nothing to do with Cruz since he was not born in the USA. When the framer wrote
the Constitution citizenship was passed via the child father. A national born citizen to them was
someone born in the USA to a US citizen father.

Original intent means as those who wrote the constitution intended. There is lots they could not
foreseen but just who is and who isn't an NBC is not one of them. Born on soil with a citizen
father. Cruz fails on both. No way they would consider the son of a Cuban born in Canada a NBC
of the USA.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: WarmPotato on August 21, 2018, 04:22:36 pm
I think she has a good shot at beating Trump because there's enough feminists around who vote purely based on sex, very sad.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 21, 2018, 04:23:44 pm

Which is why he wrote and op-ed in the Wall Street Journal supporting fast tracking TPP. /s

Putting Congress in Charge on Trade (https://www.wsj.com/articles/putting-congress-in-charge-on-trade-1429659409")

Ted Cruz is a known liar, but he is a professional politician so lying is part of his trade craft.

Do you think Cruz should lose to Beto O'Rourke, then?
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Bigun on August 21, 2018, 04:32:44 pm
No, The Fourteenth Amendment Does Not Authorize Birthright Citizenship



Read and learn (http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/23/no-fourteenth-amendment-not-authorize-birthright-citizenship/)
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: jpsb on August 21, 2018, 04:35:31 pm
Do you think Cruz should lose to Beto O'Rourke, then?

I support Cruz and intent to vote for him in Nov. But I do like the truth too, Ted Cruz supported TTP
until support for TTP became unpopular in the extreme.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 21, 2018, 04:50:32 pm
I support Cruz and intent to vote for him in Nov. But I do like the truth too, Ted Cruz supported TTP
until support for TTP became unpopular in the extreme.
You're confusing it with TPA, different animal.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 21, 2018, 05:17:18 pm
I support Cruz and intent to vote for him in Nov. But I do like the truth too, Ted Cruz supported TTP
until support for TTP became unpopular in the extreme.

Ok, then.  Did you support Trumps erosion of Cruz' support by continuing to trash him, even after he was victorious over Cruz in 2016?  It's possible Cruz may lose this time because the words "Lyin' Ted" still fall easily from the lips of many.

And...why would you expect Texans to support such a filthy liar for the Senate?
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: rustynail on August 21, 2018, 05:30:01 pm
Of course, she has a black front hole.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on August 23, 2018, 12:43:15 am
Let's see:

1: She's a POC
2: She: Female
3: She's Deaf, Dumb, and Blind as a Box of Rocks
4: She's grossly Incompetent

Sure, she's perfectly qualified for the Rat Nomination.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: sneakypete on August 23, 2018, 08:27:50 am
Let's see:

1: She's a POC
2: She: Female
3: She's Deaf, Dumb, and Blind as a Box of Rocks
4: She's grossly Incompetent

Sure, she's perfectly qualified for the Rat Nomination.

@To-Whose-Benefit?

There was a typo of POS.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 31, 2018, 04:13:58 am
That is a vile rumor @LegalAmerican   As far as I know, you are the only person to be spreading it around.

Ted Cruz is a fine man, a family man and a true conservative.  A post like that just makes you look crazy.


So funny to me, when truth is posted.  Some of you,  get ugly. NOT VILE RUMOR. It was fact, back in 2016, it may not have gotten to this site. It was, someone who told him it was ok to vote for this issue. It may have been McConnel, Cruz said, it was ok  for him to endorse TPP, and found out too late, that he was lied too.  It was HIS JOB to know what he was signing.  True about the madame too. I think since then, she has been "neutralized". Cruz is a Dominican=religion. I may not have all the correct words, as I am going by memory, from three years ago. Why don't most of you know this?  Cruz born in Canada, gave up his duel citizenship with Canada, but a form h-48?, regarding his citizenship was never found.  I sound crazy?   

lol  Why do you men like to say that, when bested.  Do some research.  For the most part, I support your posts, and don't call YOU crazy for different issues.  Cruz is  not who he appears to be. Family man?  I laugh. Professional politician.  He elbowed Heidi by accident and never stopped to say, "Oh, honey sorry", just kept on with bossiness.  Did not miss a beat. I guess, that is normal in the household. Al the signs of an abusive husband. 

Failed Candidate Ted Cruz Elbows Wife in Face

Ashley Feinberg
05/03/16 09:07PM
 
Perpetual former candidate for president Ted Cruz ran a very particular kind of campaign. A campaign that some might have called “nauseating” or “hard to watch.” But this evening, no one had a harder time watching than Heidi Cruz—because her husband’s elbow was jammed directly into her face.

[There was a video here]

What baffles me most about this is the fact that Ted knew Heidi was there. He had literally just finished embracing her. He even narrowly misses punching her before proceeding to go elbows in.

All of which is to say, this cringe-inducing moment of oblivion is the perfect coda to Ted Cruz’s campaign—deeply uncomfortable, borderline sociopathic, and embarrassing for everyone involved.
On the bright side: Heidi, you’re free


https://youtu.be/D9xnSHcAUXQ
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on August 31, 2018, 04:23:03 am
@To-Whose-Benefit?

There was a typo of POS.

If FBI and DOJ investigated her office holding past with just 5% of the energy they've put into chasing Trump, she'd have to campaign from behind bars.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Sighlass on August 31, 2018, 04:47:33 am
  Not Ted Cruz!  All of Trumps good work will be UNDONE! TED SIGNED THAT TTP, OR TPP, which was bad for America, then said, Oops. Can't have that.  Don't fall for this act by Cruz.  He is also on madams list in DC. If Trumps "not pure enough", Cruz is worse!   

Wrong..

TPA and TPP... Fast Track and Trade Bill... (Trade bill has not been submitted for vote yet, maybe June or July, congress has 90 days to vote for or against it).

Ted Cruz votes against TPA ... after supporting it. Here is why Ted did not vote for TPA/TPP

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/23/exclusive-ted-cruz-obamatrade-enmeshed-in-corrupt-backroom-dealings/ (https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/23/exclusive-ted-cruz-obamatrade-enmeshed-in-corrupt-backroom-dealings/)

Jeff Sessions gives full account of where Ted Cruz stands on illegal immigration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umhneqW41Ig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umhneqW41Ig)

Video of Cruz immigration stands in 2011... in his own words...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0h3Mu8BbjM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0h3Mu8BbjM)

We gleefully awaited your input on the Madam list on another thread. You were a no show with any proof that this was true yet like a parrot you keep spouting your lies.

Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Sighlass on August 31, 2018, 04:50:13 am
Cruz elbows wife...

Now you're just embarrassing yourself. Please continue.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Emjay on August 31, 2018, 05:40:59 am
   Good point @Emjay if it's true Trump won't be happy just doing the 8 that GWB, Reagan and Eisenhower did, he may want to outdo FDR.   
   I wont live to see it.

I demand you man up and live to see it.  Even Trump would not have the gall to try for a third term.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Emjay on August 31, 2018, 05:43:12 am

So funny to me, when truth is posted.  Some of you,  get ugly. NOT VILE RUMOR. It was fact, back in 2016, it may not have gotten to this site. It was, someone who told him it was ok to vote for this issue. It may have been McConnel, Cruz said, it was ok  for him to endorse TPP, and found out too late, that he was lied too.  It was HIS JOB to know what he was signing.  True about the madame too. I think since then, she has been "neutralized". Cruz is a Dominican=religion. I may not have all the correct words, as I am going by memory, from three years ago. Why don't most of you know this?  Cruz born in Canada, gave up his duel citizenship with Canada, but a form h-48?, regarding his citizenship was never found.  I sound crazy?   

lol  Why do you men like to say that, when bested.  Do some research.  For the most part, I support your posts, and don't call YOU crazy for different issues.  Cruz is  not who he appears to be. Family man?  I laugh. Professional politician.  He elbowed Heidi by accident and never stopped to say, "Oh, honey sorry", just kept on with bossiness.  Did not miss a beat. I guess, that is normal in the household. Al the signs of an abusive husband. 

Failed Candidate Ted Cruz Elbows Wife in Face

Ashley Feinberg
05/03/16 09:07PM
 
Perpetual former candidate for president Ted Cruz ran a very particular kind of campaign. A campaign that some might have called “nauseating” or “hard to watch.” But this evening, no one had a harder time watching than Heidi Cruz—because her husband’s elbow was jammed directly into her face.

[There was a video here]

What baffles me most about this is the fact that Ted knew Heidi was there. He had literally just finished embracing her. He even narrowly misses punching her before proceeding to go elbows in.

All of which is to say, this cringe-inducing moment of oblivion is the perfect coda to Ted Cruz’s campaign—deeply uncomfortable, borderline sociopathic, and embarrassing for everyone involved.
On the bright side: Heidi, you’re free


https://youtu.be/D9xnSHcAUXQ

@LegalAmerican   thank you for this post.  It relieves me of any responsibility I might have once felt to welcome and defend a newcomer.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: sneakypete on August 31, 2018, 10:23:14 am
If FBI and DOJ investigated her office holding past with just 5% of the energy they've put into chasing Trump, she'd have to campaign from behind bars.

@To-Whose-Benefit?

Yes,but as we all know,in 21st Century America SOME pigs really ARE "more equal" than other pigs.

A pig with the name of Hillary is one prime example of this.
Title: Re: Is Kamala Harris Eligible to be President?
Post by: Applewood on August 31, 2018, 10:53:39 am
"Perpetual former presidential candidate?"  Ted Cruz only ran for president once. 

Where do you get your information, @LegalAmerican ?  It might help if you provided a link to the source of what you are quoting..  I don't know who this Ashley Feinberg is. 

And that YouTube video:  Who is that talking?  I don't know hiim either.  Does he represent a news outlet and if so, which one?  Or is it some anti-Cruz crank making an anti-Cruz video?  There are plenty of "crank" videos out there.  They are not credible sources.  Also, you don't know if the footage of Ted Cruz was doctored. 

I know Trump supporter hate the "fake news" mainstreams, but a good many of these alternative sites are not credible news sources either.  Be careful what you see, read and hear.