The Briefing Room
General Category => World News => Topic started by: mrclose on October 27, 2019, 02:15:39 am
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Well this has my attention.
I have no idea what it's about but maybe by the time this is posted ... we will find out? :shrug:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1188264965930700801
[Edited title to include death of ISIS leader --- Mod1]
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I didn't see it but I heard that Judge Jeanine and Tom Fitton had also broke in, (on her show) with the same tweet and questions.
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There are reports now that we’ve captured Al Bagdhadi the head of ISIS.
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I didn't see it but I heard that Judge Jeanine and Tom Fitton had also broke in, (on her show) with the same tweet and questions.
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@mrclose
I saw the Judge J.'s yelling program and very close to the end, across bottom of screen, was "President Trump Teases "Very Big Announcement". That was it.
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"captured Al Bagdhadi the head of ISIS." That must be it.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/874276197357596672/kUuht00m_bigger.jpg) Donald J. Trumpâ€
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Something very big has just happened!
6:23 PM - 26 Oct 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1188264965930700801
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Trump Approves Special Ops Raid Targeting ISIS Leader Baghdadi, Military Says He's Dead
Newsweek, Oct 26, 2019 10:45 PM EDT
The United States military has conducted a special operations raid targeting one of its most high-value targets, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State militant group (ISIS), Newsweek has learned. President Donald Trump approved the mission nearly a week before it took place.
Amid reports Saturday of U.S. military helicopters over Syria's northwestern Idlib province, a senior Pentagon official familiar with the operation and Army official briefed on the matter told Newsweek that Baghdadi was the target of the top-secret operation in the last bastion of the country's Islamist-dominated opposition, a faction that has clashed with ISIS in recent years. A U.S. Army source briefed on the results of the operation told Newsweek that Baghdadi was killed in the raid. And the Defense Department told the White House they have "high confidence" that the high-value target killed was Baghdadi, but further verification is pending.
Members of a team from the Joint Special Operations Command carried out Saturday's high-level operation after receiving actionable intelligence, according to sources familiar with the operation. The location raided by special operations troops had been under surveillance for some time.
On Saturday night, after the operation had concluded, President Trump tweeted: "Something very big has just happened!" The White House announced later that the president will make a "major statement" Sunday morning at 9:00 a.m.
More: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982 (https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982)
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It's an effin' big deal, if it pans out they got him!
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President Donald Trump approved the mission nearly a week before it took place.
al-Baghdadi thought we were gone and it was safe to travel.
I love this President! :patriot:
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It's an effin' big deal, if it pans out they got him!
President will make a statement from the WH tomorrow at 9:00 am.
He's dead, Jim. happy77
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President will make a statement from the WH tomorrow at 9:00 am.
He's dead, Jim. happy77
We've been after this chap for quite some time.....
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BREAKING—— SYRIAN ANNAHAR NEWS: ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi IS DEAD! — KILLED IN US RAID thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/syrian… via @gatewaypundit
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Merged.
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We've been after this chap for quite some time.....
I will shed not a tear.
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Date: October 26, 2019 at 10:45:54 PM EDT
Subject: In-town pool report #5 - POTUS statement tomorrow
This from Hogan Gidley, White House deputy press secretary:
The President of the United States will be making a major statement tomorrow morning at 9 o’clock from the White House.
Cheryl Bolen
White House Correspondent
Bloomberg Government
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Woofers†@NotWoofers
Quick rundown of what I absolutely know happened:
Approximately 5 hours ago, 7-8 helicopters flew from Turkish areas into Idlib. The helicopter flight consisted of transport helicopters and gunships. At the same time, several UAVs and 2 jets flew overhead. The helicopters targeted an area in Northern Idlib called "Barisha"
8:15 PM - 26 Oct 2019
https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1188293160331595778
Idlib is a contested area between Turkey, Syria and Russia. POTUS must have told them not to interfere. :patriot:
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Yes, imprisoning El Chapo has really stopped the drug trade and killing bin Laden stopped terrorism. Well, it still needs to be done if we got him. It sounds like we did so good for the SOF and allies who helped beat back ISIS. It will be a continuing war for some time to come.
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Yes, imprisoning El Chapo has really stopped the drug trade and killing bin Laden stopped terrorism. Well, it still needs to be done if we got him. It sounds like we did so good for the SOF and allies who helped beat back ISIS. It will be a continuing war for some time to come.
What is wrong with you?
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"captured Al Bagdhadi the head of ISIS." That must be it.
I see reports he was killed, Newsweek is on top of this apparently right now.
I'd believe we got him while in the back of my mind, knowing, some of these folks have been "killed" before.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-target-believed-to-be-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-is-killed-in-syria-sources (https://www.foxnews.com/world/isis-target-believed-to-be-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-is-killed-in-syria-sources)
ISIS target believed to be Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is killed in Syria: sources
And again, I'm sorry to say, someone else will likely step in, we are in a long-term war with terrorism.
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Jason Brodsky
@JasonMBrodsky
While we're still awaiting details, it's worth re-upping this report from April when the #SDF claimed that #Baghdadi was hiding in #Idlib. #Syria
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https://twitter.com/JasonMBrodsky/status/1188301080347717632
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Yes, imprisoning El Chapo has really stopped the drug trade and killing bin Laden stopped terrorism. Well, it still needs to be done if we got him. It sounds like we did so good for the SOF and allies who helped beat back ISIS. It will be a continuing war for some time to come.
Good that they got him, but no victory dance. They will have another to take his place. Maybe one that escaped during Turkeys ethnic cleansing of the Kurds.
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Good that they got him, but no victory dance. They will have another to take his place. Maybe one that escaped during Turkeys ethnic cleansing of the Kurds.
1. The Kurds have not been ethnically cleansed. They are living in NE Syria, protected by their own forces and the Syrian army from Turkey's (notice the apostrophe) forces. With a buffer zone Turkey can care less where the Kurds live in Syria ... so "the Kurds" are quite literally better off without us.
2. Bullshit! We are damn well going to do a victory dance!!!
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Defense One
@DefenseOne
UPDATE: ISIS leader #Baghdadi is believed to have detonated his own suicide vest, multiple sources confirm to @DefenseOne
. #Syria
https://twitter.com/DefenseOne/status/1188301640476123136
Defense One is reliable.... so, we might have sent in a number of helicopters in from some twitter chatter.
Allies might have helped in this. Now, see how important allies are? What if we don't have them in some dangerous area like Iraq/Syria. At the least, the issue needs to be explored more.
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982 (https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982)
Looks like the story went first to Newsweek, hours before Fox and CNN.
He killed himself and two of his lovely wives.
No children were injured.
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Just on CNN. Waiting for DNA confirmation, which indicates we have body parts.
We went in ten years ago on a 30 day mission, and only just got out.
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2. Bullshit! We are damn well going to do a victory dance!!!
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Alright! I'm in.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/260549166776852480?lang=en
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1. The Kurds have not been ethnically cleansed. They are living in NE Syria, protected by their own forces and the Syrian army from Turkey's (notice the apostrophe) forces. With a buffer zone Turkey can care less where the Kurds live in Syria ... so "the Kurds" are quite literally better off without us.
2. Bullshit! We are damn well going to do a victory dance!!!
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It is always a good day when any ISIS monsters die. Especially this one being a leader in the movement. But you know its hard to understand Trump. It was just a few days ago he was saying he didn't care where ISIS escaped to. He even said some might make it here. A small percentage. He wasn't concerned at all after spending American lives fighting to capture them. That is why I have little enthusiasm for Trumps "fake" victory.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-handed-isis-terrorists-a-free-pass (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-handed-isis-terrorists-a-free-pass)
Trump says potential ISIS escapees will 'be escaping to Europe'
By Brett Samuels - 10/09/19 06:19 PM EDT
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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/465106-trump-says-potential-isis-escapees-will-be-escaping-to-europe (https://thehill.com/policy/defense/465106-trump-says-potential-isis-escapees-will-be-escaping-to-europe)
Quite conflicting. Confusing information the president puts out.
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Much of conflict is deception. When there is confusion among the enemy as to your intentions, it compromises their ability to act effectively. We did the same with the D-Day invasion, constructing fleets of decoy vehicles and even having Patton head up the fake force, complete with radio and other traffic.
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Sara Firth
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Senior Turkish official say Turkish army had advance knowledge of the U.S. raid in #Syria’s #Idlib that has reportedly killed #ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
Says Baghdadi arrived at location of U.S. op 48 hours prior to the raid.
https://twitter.com/Sara__Firth/status/1188396952427335680
I hope in no way, is some credit given to Turkey in this, hailing our Turk friends, intelligence or whatever.
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Idlib is a contested area between Turkey, Syria and Russia. POTUS must have told them not to interfere. :patriot:
I'd bet the whole action between Turkey, Syria and the Kurds was about this. .... with the agreement that the US would go in and get him.
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Gissur Simonarson
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Damn, there wasn't even de-confliction with Turkey. America looks to have been seriously concerned that Turkey would notify the ISIS leader.
Nothing else explains the way America acted here. Notify Russia their enemy, but not their NATO ally?
Crazy.
Lucas Tomlinson
@LucasFoxNews
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Americans called Russians on “de-confliction†line to warn of pending U.S. military assault on Baghdadi compound in NW Syria. No de-confliction with Turkey who “did not help in any way,†U.S. defense official says
Charles Lister
@Charles_Lister
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Interesting that US officials talking to @JenGriffinFNC
described last night’s killing of #ISIS leader #Baghdadi in #Idlib as a “partnered mission.â€
She also confirms #Baghdadi was ID’d via biometrics from his head, which blew off when he detonated a suicide vest. #Syria
Partnered mission with whom??
Charles Lister seems to say our CIA may well be penetrating into al Qaeda with these guys, Huras al Din who seem to be affiliated with al Qaeda.
Charles Lister
@Charles_Lister
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#pt: It is clear that the U.S. (CIA) has intel penetrating deep within Huras al-Din. That explains the 2 strikes in June & August.
Other rumors - linked also to targeted assassination of senior #AlQaeda figures in #Idlib - have blamed #HTS for "leaking" & "betraying" AQ targets.
https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/huras-al-din-the-overlooked-al-qaeda-group-in-syria (https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/huras-al-din-the-overlooked-al-qaeda-group-in-syria)
Huras al-Din: The Overlooked al-Qaeda Group in Syria
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Leader of ISIS Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead
October 27, 2019
US Defense sources are reporting that US Special Operations forces entered a compound in northern Syria where Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was located, he then detonated a suicide vest killing himself.
The compound was located near the Turkish border in northwest Syria’s Idlib Province, a known terrorist stronghold that has served as a home to groups linked to al-Qaeda. Al-Baghdadi had long been suspected to be hiding in the Idlib Province.
Mazloum Adbi, General Commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces, tweeted crediting “joint intelligence work with the United States of America.†... MORE (https://saraacarter.com/leader-of-isis-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-is-dead/)
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1. The Kurds have not been ethnically cleansed. They are living in NE Syria, protected by their own forces and the Syrian army from Turkey's (notice the apostrophe) forces. With a buffer zone Turkey can care less where the Kurds live in Syria ... so "the Kurds" are quite literally better off without us.
2. Bullshit! We are damn well going to do a victory dance!!!
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Good point. The Kurds remain a viable community, they control the eastern part of Syria where the oil fields are. And where, now, the U.S. troops have been moved. The situation with Turkey's border had to be addressed; they have as much right to secure their border as we do ours. With the buffer zone, hopefully the sides can effect a stalemate that can start the healing process. And Trump's right; it's time to roll the dice on others taming that area. It's time to start coming home.
And yeah - kudos to our special forces and the President, before departing, for taking out the trash. :patriot:
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Matt Couch 🎙 @RealMattCouch
President Trump reports that al-Baghdadi drug three of his children to the end of the tunnel, and detonated his vest killing 3 of his own children.
9:22 AM · Oct 27, 2019
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ISIS leader al-Baghdadi kills self as US troops stormed his compound
Oct. 27, 2019 - 4:21 - When special forces stormed al-Baghdadi's compound the ISIS leader detonated a suicide vest; Kevin Corke reports from the White House.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6098237048001/#sp=show-clips
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Alright! I'm in.
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Lol! Trump's boogie face sure is funny. As are most of the other gifs at that (obviously) anti-Trump gif site. But .... there's nothing funny about the hate-face most of the Trump-haters display. And I find it odd that such hate is displayed by a supposedly pro-American person after the death of a known anti-American terrorist. Odd, that. About as odd as the sick-face Obama displayed upon the death of Bin Laden. He looked like somebody had killed his own daddy. Hmmm....
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October 27, 2019
Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom!
By Monica Showalter
In some cheering weekend news, ISIS's big terrorist chieftain, founder Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was rendered into that proverbial grease spot on the desert floor. He won't be missed.
It's a victory comparable to the military rubout of al-Qaida founder, Osama bin Laden. According to NBC News:
The world’s most wanted terrorist, Islamic State group leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was the target of a deadly U.S.-led raid in northwestern Syria, sources told NBC News early Sunday.
Forensic testing is underway, but officials believe al-Baghdadi is among the dead, the sources said.
A U.S. Special Ops mission targeted the ISIS leader near Barisha, Syria, overnight. The mission included helicopters, jets and U.S. drones, the sources said.
The U.S. fired from the air and then landed and gathered intelligence, the sources said. Several others were also killed in a convoy. There were no reports of U.S. casualties.
So much for all that "expert" opinion in the last few weeks in the mainstream media that President Trump's pullout of U.S. troops from Syria would inevitably bring the recrudescence of ISIS.
more
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/10/trumps_syria_pullout_lured_the_big_isis_rat_out_of_his_hole_and__boom.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/10/trumps_syria_pullout_lured_the_big_isis_rat_out_of_his_hole_and__boom.html)
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Oct. 27, 2019 - 4:21 - When special forces stormed al-Baghdadi's compound the ISIS leader detonated a suicide vest; Kevin Corke reports from the White House.
Re: Press Conference announcement.
Leave it to DJT to use a presser steeped in national pride into an exercise of self promotion. Disgusting.
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Re: Press Conference announcement.
Leave it to DJT to use a presser steeped in national pride into an exercise of self promotion. Disgusting.
You must have been watching a different press conference. I just saw the whole thing and I witnessed no such "self promotion". Are you merely seeing and hearing what you wanted to hear vs. the reality?
I did see him mention how he had, in the past, said that Bin Laden needed to be taken out before 9/11.... and that obviously.... he had been correct and right re: that. If that's what you call self-promotion .... ie having been right.... many folks, including myself, are guilty of that. I would, however.... at the least, say that Trump had a keen sense of the effing obvious back then re: Bin Laden. Taking credit for stating the effing obvious isn't really justified, IMO.
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You must have been watching a different press conference. I just saw the whole thing and I witnessed no such "self promotion". Are you merely seeing and hearing what you wanted to hear vs. the reality?
I did see him mention how he had, in the past, said that Bin Laden needed to be taken out before 9/11.... and that obviously.... he had been correct and right re: that. If that's what you call self-promotion .... ie having been right.... many folks, including myself, are guilty of that. I would, however.... at the least, say that Trump had a keen sense of the effing obvious back then re: Bin Laden. Taking credit for stating the effing obvious isn't really justified, IMO.
I guess you missed him expounding on all his spectacular books he wrote, and how he beamed how he called the needed killing of OBL a year before WTC bombing. You want more?
How about...
“I didn’t get any credit. I never do,â€
Trump says that under his direction the US has “obliterated his caliphate†100%.
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I guess you missed him expounding on all his spectacular books he wrote, and how he beamed how he called the needed killing of OBL a year before WTC bombing. You want more?
How about...
“I didn’t get any credit. I never do,â€
Trump says that under his direction the US has “obliterated his caliphate†100%.
Missed it??? I friggin mentioned it. Or is your hatred so blinding that YOU missed it?
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Missed it??? I friggin mentioned it. Or is your hatred so blinding that YOU missed it?
There is no blinding hate. I've said I 'd vote for the puke in 2020 I just wish the guy would start acting more like a grownup POTUS than a PT Barnum wanna be.
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Funny how.... instead of celebrating the death of a known terrorist leader....
the left is, per usual, using this occasion, like all other occasions, merely to continue bashing Trump.
That is what I call disgusting and despicable. No patriotism. No feelings of relief for Americans that might have been killed by orchestrated attacks of Bagdadi. Nothing but hatred spewed.
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Funny how.... instead of celebrating the death of a known terrorist leader....
the left is, per usual, using this occasion, like all other occasions, merely to continue bashing Trump.
That is what I call disgusting and despicable. No patriotism. No feelings of relief for Americans that might have been killed by orchestrated attacks of Bagdadi. Nothing but hatred spewed.
Of course his perennial critics remain unimpressed. Good news nonetheless.
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Of course his perennial critics remain unimpressed. Good news nonetheless.
Yes. It is good news for America. Bad news for those that hate, loathe and detest America (and Trump). Every success Trump has, that is good for America, is bad for the leftist agenda.
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And yeah - kudos to our special forces and the President, before departing, for taking out the trash. :patriot:
:amen: Cheers to the excellent quality intelligence information provided by America's Deep State too. wink777
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Actually, despite saying "bring the troops home", troop presence in the ME has grown in the last three years. Fine, just don't say different.
Good for the author, maybe she'll be proven correct.
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Actually, despite saying "bring the troops home", troop presence in the ME has grown in the last three years. Fine, just don't say different.
Good for the author, maybe she'll be proven correct.
I'm confused. I don't know what to think. Both Trump and the Fake News say it's good news that al-Baghdadi is dead. I don't know how the fake news will spin this into an impeachable charge against Trump. It's almost like the Fake News is siding with America.
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:amen: Cheers to the excellent quality intelligence information provided by America's Deep State too. wink777
You just can't (ever) resist.... can ya? :tongue2:
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I'm confused. I don't know what to think. Both Trump and the Fake News say it's good news that al-Baghdadi is dead. I don't know how the fake news will spin this into an impeachable charge against Trump. It's almost like the Fake News is siding with America.
I'm sure Schiffty will be investigating this very soon, ****drummer .
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Every silver lining has a cloud. *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes*****
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Good News!
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Every silver lining has a cloud. *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes*****
What the Trump-haters don't want to admit is.... there are a lot of (most of) the intel agency employees are not "deep staters"... and do not hate Trump like they do. They are good and decent men and women that just do their jobs to protect America, politics and agenda be damned...
as it should be with everyone in America.
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Trump stated that he didn't warn the Congress leaders, because DC cannot be trusted.
The intitial story went to Newsweek, not CNN or Fox.
The democrats, their media, and #nevertrump scum, show themselves to be obsessed and deranged, with impeachment, during this military accomplishent.
Ya think Trump will make dems, media and #nevertrump scum, look badly with this?
It was just noted not one word from democrat "leadership" Certain #nevertrump scum, "confused." (waiting on dems and media, for how to spinthis.
hen do they start talking about skipping the election, because Trump might win?
Pelosi bitching they notified the Russians, before notifying the House.
Is Utah's Warrior, Pierre Romney scheduled this morning, for the McCain Sunday shows?
Two Americans lightly wounded.
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LMAO! No comparison whatsoever. (thank God)
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Lol! Trump's boogie face sure is funny. As are most of the other gifs at that (obviously) anti-Trump gif site. But .... there's nothing funny about the hate-face most of the Trump-haters display. And I find it odd that such hate is displayed by a supposedly pro-American person after the death of a known anti-American terrorist. Odd, that. About as odd as the sick-face Obama displayed upon the death of Bin Laden. He looked like somebody had killed his own daddy. Hmmm....
It remains my belief that Obama was only informed of the Bin Laden raid after it was past the go/no-go point, if not simply as an afterthought, all situation room drama images aside. Obama had pulled the plug on ops based on actionable intel a couple of times already, and the brass finally got a generalized okay to go after OBL if they could. I think they went for it and informed him afterwards. All he could do at that point was take credit publicly....
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What the Trump-haters don't want to admit is.... there are a lot of (most of) the intel agency employees are not "deep staters"... and do not hate Trump like they do. They are good and decent men and women that just do their jobs to protect America, politics and agenda be damned...
as it should be with everyone in America.
Most of the agency deep-staters are multi-administration career folks who have been at it since the Clinton Administration and before, as well as their hand picked minions. It may be hard to remove folks from most of the rank and file jobs, but people get gaslighted all the time, or transferred into corners where they do nothing of consequence. One director who is not on board and the whole mission goes south, a minion or group who are not with the program can scuttle the mission with bad intel as well, and then there are the leakers, partisan and not. A few bad apples and the whole barrel is done.
The trick is ferreting those out without losing people who are loyal Americans, first, last, and always, who have been set up by the very people we want out.
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It remains my belief that Obama was only informed of the Bin Laden raid after it was past the go/no-go point, if not simply as an afterthought, all situation room drama images aside. Obama had pulled the plug on ops based on actionable intel a couple of times already, and the brass finally got a generalized okay to go after OBL if they could. I think they went for it and informed him afterwards. All he could do at that point was take credit publicly....
Yeah, the look on his face was like he was soiling his pants (an "Oh crap" moment) at the thought of what his good buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood would 'think' of him afterwards. He was definitely NOT happy about Osama's death.
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FTA
The terrorists, who are known to be voracious watchers of CNN and other mainstream news, decided that Trump was a wimp, a pacifist, a non-fighter for pulling U.S. troops out; Trump wouldn't fight them, they thought, leaving them with a field day. The coast was clear and it didn't take long before they popped out of their holes.
Boom. That was a mistake.
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Most of the agency deep-staters are multi-administration career folks who have been at it since the Clinton Administration and before, as well as their hand picked minions. It may be hard to remove folks from most of the rank and file jobs, but people get gaslighted all the time, or transferred into corners where they do nothing of consequence. One director who is not on board and the whole mission goes south, a minion or group who are not with the program can scuttle the mission with bad intel as well, and then there are the leakers, partisan and not. A few bad apples and the whole barrel is done.
The trick is ferreting those out without losing people who are loyal Americans, first, last, and always, who have been set up by the very people we want out.
Indeed. A trick that has proven to be harder than it should be. :shrug:
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Yeah, the look on his face was like he was soiling his pants (an "Oh crap" moment) at the thought of what his good buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood would 'think' of him afterwards. He was definitely NOT happy about Osama's death.
A lot of flag rank brass were retired or transferred in the years afterward.
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The democrats, their media, and #nevertrump scum, show themselves to be obsessed and deranged, with impeachment, during this military accomplishent.
My favorite part of the announcement was when Trump said "Our canine, I call it a dog, a beautiful dog, a talented dog, was injured and brought back." It sounded much more authentic than the speech Trump misread off the teleprompter, with all those big words he mispronounced. I was reminded that I owned a canine and I too called it a "dog." It seems the President and I share much in common. wink777
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Yeah, the look on his face was like he was soiling his pants (an "Oh crap" moment) at the thought of what his good buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood would 'think' of him afterwards. He was definitely NOT happy about Osama's death.
Obastard was wearing a polo shirt in that picture, because he had just wandered in after golf. He threw on a suit coat for the picture. Heck, he's not even sitting at the end of the table! Although he took the credit, as if he had parachuted into Paki and killed bin Laden with his own puny hands, he wasn't even remotely "in charge."
He had to be tricked into giving permission for the raid. He could never bring himself to having a fellow Muzzie killed.
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Trump stated that he didn't warn the Congress leaders, because DC cannot be trusted.
The intitial story went to Newsweek, not CNN or Fox.
The democrats, their media, and #nevertrump scum, show themselves to be obsessed and deranged, with impeachment, during this military accomplishent.
Ya think Trump will make dems, media and #nevertrump scum, look badly with this?
It was just noted not one word from democrat "leadership" Certain #nevertrump scum, "confused." (waiting on dems and media, for how to spinthis.
hen do they start talking about skipping the election, because Trump might win?
Pelosi bitching they notified the Russians, before notifying the House.
Is Utah's Warrior, Pierre Romney scheduled this morning, for the McCain Sunday shows?
Two Americans lightly wounded.
I am so stealing that... :beer:
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Lol! Trump's boogie face sure is funny. As are most of the other gifs at that (obviously) anti-Trump gif site.
https://giphy.com/ ??? Do you reflect on you own bias ever?
But .... there's nothing funny about the hate-face most of the Trump-haters display. And I find it odd that such hate is displayed by a supposedly pro-American person after the death of a known anti-American terrorist.
I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Is it a Q thing? :shrug:
Odd, that. About as odd as the sick-face Obama displayed upon the death of Bin Laden. He looked like somebody had killed his own daddy. Hmmm....
I'm not seeing that either.
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Funny how.... instead of celebrating the death of a known terrorist leader....
the left is, per usual, using this occasion, like all other occasions, merely to continue bashing Trump.
That is what I call disgusting and despicable. No patriotism. No feelings of relief for Americans that might have been killed by orchestrated attacks of Bagdadi. Nothing but hatred spewed.
I've been watching CNN all morning and they are portraying the death of Bagdaddy as a great thing...Can you please let me know where I can find the bash Trump because Bagdaddy is dead media? I'd prefer to watch that.
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I am so stealing that... :beer:
@aligncare Give the President of the United States of America credit too. :patriot:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1187063301731209220
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats. Watch out for them, they are human scum!
12:48 PM · Oct 23, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
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It's an effin' big deal, if it pans out they got him!
@Cyber Liberty
If they ever send Delta Force after you,you are history. US Army Special Projects units are as good as it gets. They started operating in VN and adjacent areas in the early 60's and developed it into a branch instead of just a side job. Delta Force is the name they took from the old "Operation Delta" that was based at Nha Trang,but there were other "Special Operations Units" with code names like "Operation Sigma" and "Operation Omega" that I know of,and who knows how many I don't know of?
Delta Force was the biggest,best known,and based basically across the street from the 5th SFG headquarters in Nha Trang,and it was former Delta Force operators who were tasked to put together a special anti-terrorism unit,so it should come as no surprise to anyone they picked Delta as the name for the new unit.
They also had what was said to be the nicest NCO club in VN. I used to go there and drink with friends when I was in Nha Trang on standdown. Special Projects got a LOT of their operators from 1st SF Group members TDY to VN from Okinawa,and I had spent a couple of years in the 1st and knew most of them. If you weren't on one of their teams or the gate guards didn't know you personally and know you had a Top Secret clearance and were in SF and ok,you didn't get in regardless of who you were. They had an A6 Browning manned by a Asian "striker" pointed at the gate entrance to enforce this judgement,and I never heard of anyone foolish enough to test this system. BTW,the gates were always guarded by a Delta operational NCO team member,and the striker with the MG was hired and paid by that team. If the NCO at the gate told him to shoot,you were history.
You can do this in small units were everyone operational knows everyone else that is operational. I suspect Delta is a far larger and more complex force these days,but I am certain that are still the ultimate professional soldiers.
As for the quality of soldier that mans these units,consider that ONLY Special Forces NCO's or officers with combat experience ever become members on teams,and it really doesn't do any good to volunteer because generally speaking they only take people they ask to volunteer. Yeah,you CAN volunteer,but chances are you will be turned down because all the operators there only want to work with people they know they can count on because they know them personally,and have served with them on other teams in the past.
Or at least that is the way it used to be. I have no idea how it operates today because I have no need to know how they operate. I can tell you I would be shocked beyond belief to learn they had lowered their standards for PC reasons,though. Or for any other reasons,AFATG. These people are all dedicated career soldiers and character really does matter in that rarefied air.
Don't get me wrong,they need clerks,meteorologists,supply clerks,personnel clerks,etc,etc,etc just like any other military organization,but the operators live in their own little world and rarely see any of those people except at briefings.
It was Delta Force that raided the Son Tay Prison Camp in North Vietnam
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I've been watching CNN all morning and they are portraying the death of Bagdaddy as a great thing...Can you please let me know where I can find the bash Trump because Bagdaddy is dead media? I'd prefer to watch that.
Here's one:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380327.msg2082035.html#msg2082035 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380327.msg2082035.html#msg2082035)
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Good that they got him, but no victory dance. They will have another to take his place. Maybe one that escaped during Turkeys ethnic cleansing of the Kurds.
@Chosen Daughter
There is absolutely nothing that Trump can do that you won't bitch about,is there?
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Here's one:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380327.msg2082035.html#msg2082035 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380327.msg2082035.html#msg2082035)
Your link just brings me back to my original post. I'm disappointed.
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https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982 (https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approves-special-ops-raid-targeting-isis-leader-baghdadi-1467982)
Looks like the story went first to Newsweek, hours before Fox and CNN.
He killed himself and two of his lovely wives.
No children were injured.
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Just on CNN. Waiting for DNA confirmation, which indicates we have body parts.
We went in ten years ago on a 30 day mission, and only just got out.
@truth_seeker
He killed two of his sons when he detonated his suicide vets inside the tunnel.
Two of his wives did have suicide vest on when the operators entered the room,but I don't THINK they detonated them. Didn't/don't really care enough about them to have paid attention.
The house and surrounding buildings in that compound have been flattened to keep anyone from using them as a shrine to that monster.
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I hope in no way, is some credit given to Turkey in this, hailing our Turk friends, intelligence or whatever.
@TomSea
Why? It is a FACT they had to be notified immediately before the choppers flew over to keep the Turkish forces from firing on them.
Granted,it was probably more of a case of them being "informed" instead of them "giving permission",but let's give credit where credit is due,and thank them for their cooperation and recognize it.
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I'd bet the whole action between Turkey, Syria and the Kurds was about this. .... with the agreement that the US would go in and get him.
@Texas Yellow Rose
That's not a bet I would take.
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Matt Couch 🎙 @RealMattCouch
President Trump reports that al-Baghdadi drug three of his children to the end of the tunnel, and detonated his vest killing 3 of his own children.
9:22 AM · Oct 27, 2019
@mountaineer
Ya just gotta love a system where the trash not only takes itself out,but takes out it's spawn. No "Junior" to take up the sword in 20 years.
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ISIS leader al-Baghdadi kills self as US troops stormed his compound
Oct. 27, 2019 - 4:21 - When special forces stormed al-Baghdadi's compound the ISIS leader detonated a suicide vest; Kevin Corke reports from the White House.
@rangerrebew
I am sure you know this,but let's use correct terminology for those who don't. YES,Delta Force operators come from Special Forces,but Delta Force is a stand-alone unit,and all Special Forces soldiers are NOT Delta Force operatives.
Being a Delta Force operator is a very special thing,indeed,and should always be recognized as such.
I can assure you the typical Special Forces soldier has a strong enough ego they won't be crushed by having this distinction pointed out. Especially since most would give their left nut to be in Delta.
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Your link just brings me back to my original post. I'm disappointed.
That's a "Cyber Note," meaning "Look in a mirror." It ain't rocket science.
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Obastard was wearing a polo shirt in that picture, because he had just wandered in after golf. He threw on a suit coat for the picture. Heck, he's not even sitting at the end of the table! Although he took the credit, as if he had parachuted into Paki and killed bin Laden with his own puny hands, he wasn't even remotely "in charge."
He had to be tricked into giving permission for the raid. He could never bring himself to having a fellow Muzzie killed.
I'll go a step further... and posit that had he been told in advance of that raid.... Osama would have been mysteriously "tipped off".
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Funny how.... instead of celebrating the death of a known terrorist leader....
the left is, per usual, using this occasion, like all other occasions, merely to continue bashing Trump.
That is what I call disgusting and despicable. No patriotism. No feelings of relief for Americans that might have been killed by orchestrated attacks of Bagdadi. Nothing but hatred spewed.
@XenaLee
I have been told that if Bathhouse Barry had been able to get his hands on Al-Baghdaddi,he would have given him a severe tongue-lashing,followed by somebody getting slapped around a lot. It's not clear who was going to get slapped around,though.
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Of course his perennial critics remain unimpressed. Good news nonetheless.
@skeeter
Good news would be hearing a few of these RINO's got so mad they stroked out.
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I'm guessing Bathhouse Barry, the WashPoo and various other losers are mourning poor ol' Bagdaddy.
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https://giphy.com/ ??? Do you reflect on you own bias ever?
I checked out the Trump "gifs" there and made a logical deduction. As for reflecting on your own bias, I don't even have to ask you the same question. Already well documented.
I haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Is it a Q thing? :shrug:
I have no idea what you are talking about. What's a "Q thing"? :shrug:
I'm not seeing that either.
You don't want to see it. It's called the inconvenient, if not harsh, reality. lol
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Yes. It is good news for America. Bad news for those that hate, loathe and detest America (and Trump). Every success Trump has, that is good for America, is bad for the leftist agenda.
@XenaLee
Not to mention the anti-American RINO agenda.
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I'll go a step further... and posit that had he been told in advance of that raid.... Osama would have been mysteriously "tipped off".
I'm right there with you. As a plus, Pelosi and Schitt are all pizzed off they weren't given a chance to blow this raid and get American soldiers killed, so they could blame that on Trump.
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I've been watching CNN all morning and they are portraying the death of Bagdaddy as a great thing...Can you please let me know where I can find the bash Trump because Bagdaddy is dead media? I'd prefer to watch that.
You're kidding. You really need to step away from the CNN and get out more.
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I'm right there with you. As a plus, Pelosi and Schitt are all pizzed off they weren't given a chance to blow this raid and get American soldiers killed, so they could blame that on Trump.
Oh, of course they're ticked off. Anything good for America is bad for the leftists/DemocRats.
And I'm also wondering.....
if that announcement about withdrawing troops from Syria that exploded so many leftist heads (alas, to not any permanent degree).... was deliberate and meant to put the Baghdadi factions off guard and make them "think" they had nothing to worry about re: the impending raid. ? Hmmm.... yet another method to the madness that all the idiot left can knash, screech and weep about. lololol
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@XenaLee
Not to mention the anti-American RINO agenda.
Sorry, but.... I lump the RINOs in with the radical left. They can own it, as the traitors they are.
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Oh, of course they're ticked off. Anything good for America is bad for the leftists/DemocRats.
And I'm also wondering.....
if that announcement about withdrawing troops from Syria that exploded so many leftist heads (alas, to not any permanent degree).... was deliberate and meant to put the Baghdadi factions off guard and make them "think" they had nothing to worry about re: the impending raid. ? Hmmm.... yet another method to the madness that all the idiot left can knash, screech and weep about. lololol
That will depend on what the Turks do. That's still a gamble.
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That's a "Cyber Note," meaning "Look in a mirror." It ain't rocket science.
Apparently it is to some. 888mouth
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Oh, of course they're ticked off. Anything good for America is bad for the leftists/DemocRats.
And I'm also wondering.....
if that announcement about withdrawing troops from Syria that exploded so many leftist heads (alas, to not any permanent degree).... was deliberate and meant to put the Baghdadi factions off guard and make them "think" they had nothing to worry about re: the impending raid. ? Hmmm.... yet another method to the madness that all the idiot left can knash, screech and weep about. lololol
Have you seen this @XenaLee http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380358.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380358.0.html)
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The kids down the street were playing Special Forces this morning and the bad guy was a stuffed animal, they were after Abu Bakr al BadDoggy!
Irina Tsukerman
@irinatsukerman
Not satire, folks. Please note the slogan at the time.
Just how austere was this "religious scholar" if he had a Rolex and lots of sex slaves? And since when is departure by suicide vest considered a "death" of what may seem like natural causes?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH5tcY6XkAAwNhm?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/irinatsukerman/status/1188507691192406016
WAPO headline.
Was this the main headline? Main article? Some one else must have posted this....
Other:
Mazloum Abdî مظلوم عبدي
@MazloumAbdi
For five months there has been joint intel cooperation on the ground and accurate monitoring, until we achieved a joint operation to kill Abu Bakir al-Bagdadi.
Thanks to everybody who participate in this great mission.
@realDonaldTrump
#SDF
#USArmy
#Rojava
#Baghdadi
7:23 AM · Oct 27, 2019·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/MazloumAbdi/status/1188430970564874240
ALSO, adding in, another JIHADIST LEADER may have just been hit.
Russian News TASS says they haven't seen proof, so, so what? It sounds like they have proof of getting the ISIS leader.
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I'm right there with you. As a plus, Pelosi and Schitt are all pizzed off they weren't given a chance to blow this raid and get American soldiers killed, so they could blame that on Trump.
@Cyber Liberty
And there it is.
There can be NO doubt Pelosi would have informed the media about the upcoming raid. She informed the Chinese about the upcoming raid on NORINCO headquarters in Long Beach,CA several years ago after being briefed on the raid the afternoon before it happened. Her husband was (is?) the NORINCO corporate lawyer,and somehow or another,the NORINCO leadership all decided to catch flights out of America that very same day,leaving an warehouse full of Chinese machine guns and no Chinese employees to arrest.
Funny how that works out,huh?
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I'm guessing Bathhouse Barry, the WashPoo and various other losers are mourning poor ol' Bagdaddy.
Take a look at this @mountaineer http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380411.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380411.0.html)
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Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter
How much screwtop Chardonnay is Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit going to guzzle to make her forget that she’s not president today?ABC News Politics @ABCPolitics
· 4h
BREAKING: Pres. Trump: "Last night the United States brought the world's #1 terrorist leader to justice. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead." https://abcn.ws/2PoXSTK
10:39 AM · Oct 27, 2019·
:silly:
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hen do they start talking about skipping the election, because Trump might win?
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Off-topic, the Presidential election process requires that the Electoral College's choice be approved by the House. Will Pelosi and the Dems try to play games with that requirement?
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Take a look at this
Yeah, I've seen that. Some funny Twitter responses from Muffin Bear’s Dad:@muffnbear
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His new financial system gave hope to thousands in search of prosperity in a country they could hardly call their own.
RIP Charles Ponzi #WaPoObits
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He balanced power, statesmanship and justice at a time when his wife told him to run away. RIP Pontius Pilate. #WaPoObits
and The Gormogons@Gormogons
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GP Josef Stalin, noted weight loss consultant to Ukrainians, dead at 74 from feeling too much. #WaPoObits
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GorT: Judas Iscariot, noted coin collector, dead at 23 from unconfirmed asphyxiation #WaPoObits
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GP Mohammad Qaddafi, champion of women’s integration into elite military units, dead at 69 of lead poisoning.
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It is always a good day when any ISIS monsters die. Especially this one being a leader in the movement. But you know its hard to understand Trump. It was just a few days ago he was saying he didn't care where ISIS escaped to. He even said some might make it here. A small percentage. He wasn't concerned at all after spending American lives fighting to capture them. That is why I have little enthusiasm for Trumps "fake" victory.
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Have you seen this @XenaLee http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380358.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380358.0.html)
No, hadn't seen it. Thanks.
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Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter
How much screwtop Chardonnay is Felonia Milhous von Pantsuit going to guzzle to make her forget that she’s not president today?10:39 AM · Oct 27, 2019·
:silly:
She doesn't get the good stuff from Nancy Pelosi's Napa Valley vineyard?
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Indeed. A trick that has proven to be harder than it should be. :shrug:
In the future, when a president of the opposition party takes office, he may have to resort to immediate mass purges, thanks to the example democrats set by refusing to accept the the results of the 2016 election. Trump was never given a peaceful transition of power.
The first time in history this happened. Thanks to the sore losers, the democrats.
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Siege the day! @Right_in_Virginia
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She doesn't get the good stuff from Nancy Pelosi's Napa Valley vineyard?
Hey, for all we know, Nan's vineyard is in the path of the wildfires. Oh, the humanity!
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Re: The Washington Post
See article posted here for more information on their slobbering obit headline:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380411.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,380411.0.html)
@TomSea
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In the future, when a president of the opposition party takes office, he may have to resort to immediate mass purges, thanks to the example democrats set by refusing to accept the the results of the 2016 election. Trump was never given a peaceful transition of power.
The first time in history this happened. Thanks to the sore losers, the democrats.
Well, I've noticed that, in the past, the Democrats have had no problems with "purging" anyone that isn't a fellow, card-carrying leftist. But since we have had a massive double standard re: this for decades ....
this situation just points to the crucial need for the end of that "standard" going forward. Question is.... will most of the GOP have the nads to follow through...?
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Hey, for all we know, Nan's vineyard is in the path of the wildfires. Oh, the humanity!
Proving Karma to be real.... and active.
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The operation that took down al-Baghdadi was named after Kayla Mueller.
Mueller was an American Christian woman and human rights activist who was kidnapped by ISIS.https://t.co/4sVULACYLf— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) October 27, 2019
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Hollywood Uses al-Baghdadi Death to Attack Trump: ‘Piece of Sh*t’ ‘Staged’ Photo
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/10/27/hollywood-uses-al-baghdadi-death-to-attack-trump-piece-of-sht/# (https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/10/27/hollywood-uses-al-baghdadi-death-to-attack-trump-piece-of-sht/#)
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Hollywood Uses al-Baghdadi Death to Attack Trump: ‘Piece of Sh*t’ ‘Staged’ Photo
Keep digging that hole, H'weird.
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It is always a good day when any ISIS monsters die. Especially this one being a leader in the movement. But you know its hard to understand Trump. It was just a few days ago he was saying he didn't care where ISIS escaped to. He even said some might make it here. A small percentage. He wasn't concerned at all after spending American lives fighting to capture them. That is why I have little enthusiasm for Trumps "fake" victory.
Quite conflicting. Confusing information the president puts out.
@Chosen Daughter
You don't understand the concept of "feint",where you lull the opponent into relaxing by faking them out?
That explains a lot about you.
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Hollywood Uses al-Baghdadi Death to Attack Trump: ‘Piece of Sh*t’ ‘Staged’ Photo
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/10/27/hollywood-uses-al-baghdadi-death-to-attack-trump-piece-of-sht/# (https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/10/27/hollywood-uses-al-baghdadi-death-to-attack-trump-piece-of-sht/#)
Like I give two shits what Rob Reiner and George Takai have to say about this. *****rollingeyes*****
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Every silver lining has a cloud. *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes*****
@Cyber Liberty
In reference to your tag line,I prefer to call it "The FERAL government."
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Siege the day! @Right_in_Virginia
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888high58888 @EdJames
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Like I give two shits what Rob Reiner and George Takai have to say about this. *****rollingeyes*****
They're both still alive???
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Like I give two shits what Rob Reiner and George Takai have to say about this. *****rollingeyes*****
I agree. WTH Breitbart?
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Like I give two shits what Rob Reiner and George Takai have to say about this. *****rollingeyes*****
Two old leftist has-beens.... one a meathead and one a dyckhead....
and who the hell is Rob Delaney??? Just the usual sour grapes coming from the frauds in Hollyweird that have never produced anything of value to the United States of America, and probably have, quite the contrary, contributed negativity only.
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They're both still alive???
Define "alive." :laugh:
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In announcing the secret raid, Trump was clear that there’s little trust in the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and some leaders in Congress.
When asked specifically if he informed Pelosi ahead of the raid, the president said he did not.
“No, I didn’t do that. I wanted to make sure this was kept secret,†Trump answered. “I didn’t want to have men lost. And women. I don’t want to have people lost.â€
After explaining that the operation began “about two weeks ago,†and that Russia was made aware that the U.S. was sending troops into the area, a reporter asked if Pelosi or other congressional leaders were made aware of the raid.
“We’ve notified some, others are being notified now as I speak,†Trump replied. “We were going to notify them last night but we decided not to do that because Washington leaks like I’ve never seen before. There’s no country in the world that leaks like we do and Washington is a leaking machine.â€
Of course Chrissy Wallace just couldn't help himself!
Vice President Mike Pence was grilled by Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace on whether Trump trusted Pelosi.
“The implication seeming to be that he was worried that Pelosi or members of Congress would leak this,†Wallace said.
Does the president not trust the Speaker of the House with sensitive national security information?
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In announcing the secret raid, Trump was clear that there’s little trust in the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and some leaders in Congress.
When asked specifically if he informed Pelosi ahead of the raid, the president said he did not.
“No, I didn’t do that. I wanted to make sure this was kept secret,†Trump answered. “I didn’t want to have men lost. And women. I don’t want to have people lost.â€
After explaining that the operation began “about two weeks ago,†and that Russia was made aware that the U.S. was sending troops into the area, a reporter asked if Pelosi or other congressional leaders were made aware of the raid.
“We’ve notified some, others are being notified now as I speak,†Trump replied. “We were going to notify them last night but we decided not to do that because Washington leaks like I’ve never seen before. There’s no country in the world that leaks like we do and Washington is a leaking machine.â€
Of course Chrissy Wallace just couldn't help himself!
Vice President Mike Pence was grilled by Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace on whether Trump trusted Pelosi.
“The implication seeming to be that he was worried that Pelosi or members of Congress would leak this,†Wallace said.
Does the president not trust the Speaker of the House with sensitive national security information?
Why would he trust Pelosi or Schifty? They're out to hang him and he would be a fool at this point to trust them. He's very much fighting this battle with just a few that he can count on.
My biggest fear is what's going to happen when he realizes that his Princess' Frog is among those who are trying to destroy him.
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Why would he trust Pelosi or Schifty? They're out to hang him and he would be a fool at this point to trust them. He's very much fighting this battle with just a few that he can count on.
My biggest fear is what's going to happen when he realizes that his Princess' Frog is among those who are trying to destroy him.
Based on what evidence?
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Based on what evidence?
Kushner took 'start up' money from Soros for his corporations; out of those corporations some were insurance exchanges for Bammycare. Several years back I posted that information here with links...I went back months later to repost the links to the ownership of those corporations and they were no longer accessible. Coincidence? Perhaps. I think not.
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My biggest fear is what's going to happen when he realizes that his Princess' Frog is among those who are trying to destroy him.
What do you mean? Who is a frog?
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What do you mean? Who is a frog?
Trump's Princess is his daughter Ivanka and her Frog is her hubby Jared. Nope. I don't trust either one of them, especially Jared.
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Kushner took 'start up' money from Soros for his corporations; out of those corporations some were insurance exchanges for Bammycare. Several years back I posted that information here with links...I went back months later to repost the links to the ownership of those corporations and they were no longer accessible. Coincidence? Perhaps. I think not.
I had never heard that before. But let's face it. Everyone in Trump's family is or was a damned Democrat. I wonder if any of them have changed their political stance over the past three years of harassment and bashing from their good friends, da rats.
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In the future, when a president of the opposition party takes office, he may have to resort to immediate mass purges, thanks to the example democrats set by refusing to accept the the results of the 2016 election. Trump was never given a peaceful transition of power.
The first time in history this happened. Thanks to the sore losers, the democrats.
If there is no example of a President, being denied "peadceful transition of power" then it needs to be widey spread.
And Trump's supporters need some examples from shitholes, where it does not occur.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coups_d%27état_and_coup_attempts_by_country
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I had never heard that before. But let's face it. Everyone in Trump's family is or was a damned Democrat. I wonder if any of them have changed their political stance over the past three years of harassment and bashing from their good friends, da rats.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/kushners-partners-include-goldman-and-soros-wsj (https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/kushners-partners-include-goldman-and-soros-wsj)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/10/jared-kushner-real-estate-cadre-goldman-sachs)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/16/kushner-cadre-opprtunity-zone/2333861002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/16/kushner-cadre-opprtunity-zone/2333861002/)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/16/kushner-cadre-opprtunity-zone/2333861002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/16/kushner-cadre-opprtunity-zone/2333861002/)
Cadre was one of the start up companies that I was referring to --- I initially looked it up a couple of years ago when I questioned whether there was a link to Kushner and Soros sure enough ... and I further found links to spin off companies and the Saudis --- I was surprised to find Kushner's link to Soros -- as I stated, I had a link that listed all the subsidiaries, board members, owners, donors, etc., and those links that I provided were taken down.
Obviously, by the current links that I am posting, there are definite ties between Kushner and the Saudis (I have not however, read through all of the articles at this point) -- but I did find links several years back that were IMHO more questionable and incriminating linking Trump's chief advisor, and son-in-law, Kushner to Soros.
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In announcing the secret raid, Trump was clear that there’s little trust in the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and some leaders in Congress.
When asked specifically if he informed Pelosi ahead of the raid, the president said he did not.
“No, I didn’t do that. I wanted to make sure this was kept secret,†Trump answered. “I didn’t want to have men lost. And women. I don’t want to have people lost.â€
After explaining that the operation began “about two weeks ago,†and that Russia was made aware that the U.S. was sending troops into the area, a reporter asked if Pelosi or other congressional leaders were made aware of the raid.
“We’ve notified some, others are being notified now as I speak,†Trump replied. “We were going to notify them last night but we decided not to do that because Washington leaks like I’ve never seen before. There’s no country in the world that leaks like we do and Washington is a leaking machine.â€
Of course Chrissy Wallace just couldn't help himself!
Vice President Mike Pence was grilled by Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace on whether Trump trusted Pelosi.
“The implication seeming to be that he was worried that Pelosi or members of Congress would leak this,†Wallace said.
Does the president not trust the Speaker of the House with sensitive national security information?
Trust Pelosi?? Are you kidding me? **nononono*
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Democrats are deeply saddened.
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Scott Adams
Verified account @ScottAdamsSays
Trump sure knows how to wind down a war. He just left ISIS speechless.
Michael A. HorowitzVerified account @michaelh992
Michael A. Horowitz Retweeted Mazloum Abdî مظلوم عبدي
SDF commander reports the killing of Abu Hassan al-Muhajir, #ISIS's spokesperson near Jarablus in a joint op with the US
1:19 PM - 27 Oct 2019
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1188550848374132737
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Democrats are deeply saddened.
(https://media.breitbart.com/media/cdn/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2014/Barack-and-Michelle/obama-crying-reuters.jpg)
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Define "alive." :laugh:
Well, if history is any guide, see: Abu Barrak al-Baghdadi.
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If there is no example of a President, being denied "peadceful transition of power" then it needs to be widey spread.
And Trump's supporters need some examples from shitholes, where it does not occur.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coups_d%27état_and_coup_attempts_by_country
Bill Clinton dragged his feet in the transition to Bush 43 (because of the recount fiasco in FL), and his staff vandalized the offices to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars to clean up. He did his level best to cripple the incoming President. The fact that the Clintons tried to pilfer everything that wasn't nailed down in the residence of the White House is the stuff of legends, and another matter.
The Democrats have a rich 21st century history of resistance to a peaceful transition of power. They're right next door to Turd World.
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Every silver lining has a cloud. *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes***** *****rollingeyes*****
a glass half empty comment if I ever heard one.
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Trump's Syria pullout lured the big ISIS rat out of his hole and ... boom!
Actually, wasn't he killed in his hole?
when he finally came out, it was only a few pieces.
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a glass half empty comment if I ever heard one.
The glass was over-engineered.
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Top Obama Military Officer Bashes President Trump For “Piling on†Humiliation of Baghdadi and ISIS (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/top-obama-military-officer-bashes-president-trump-for-piling-on-humiliation-of-baghdadi-and-isis-video/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/top-obama-military-officer-bashes-president-trump-for-piling-on-humiliation-of-baghdadi-and-isis-video/)
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Trump Pays Tribute to Military K9s: ‘Beautiful Dog’ Injured in al-Baghdadi Raid
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/27/trump-pays-tribute-military-k9s-beautiful-dog-injured-al-baghdadi-raid/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/27/trump-pays-tribute-military-k9s-beautiful-dog-injured-al-baghdadi-raid/)
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Trump Pays Tribute to Military K9s: ‘Beautiful Dog’ Injured in al-Baghdadi Raid
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/27/trump-pays-tribute-military-k9s-beautiful-dog-injured-al-baghdadi-raid/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/27/trump-pays-tribute-military-k9s-beautiful-dog-injured-al-baghdadi-raid/)
I'll bet the K9 knew what was happening before Pelosi and Schitt.
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Scrape up the remains of a-B and his family, burn the remains in a lard-fueled fire, and dump the ashes in the muck of a pigsty.
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I'll bet the K9 knew what was happening before Pelosi and Schitt.
That poor dog. I bet he is licking his own butt to get the taste of austere religious scolar out of his mouth.
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Likely Successor to Dead ISIS Leader Also Reported Killed
NY Times, Oct 27, 2019
BEIRUT, Lebanon — A day after an American raid killed Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, a separate attack killed the man who was considered his likely successor, according to the leader of a Syrian Kurdish militia and a Syrian activist.
The spokesman, known by his nom de guerre Abu Hassan al-Muhajir, was being smuggled across northern Syria in the back of an oil tanker truck when it was hit by what witnesses said they believed to be an American airstrike, according to Hussein Nasser, an activist who said he had spoken to people at the scene.
Mazlum Abdi, the head of a Kurdish-led militia that fought the Islamic State with the United States, wrote on Twitter that Mr. al-Muhajir had been killed on Sunday in an operation coordinated between his forces and the United States.
More: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/world/middleeast/al-baghdadi-successor-reported-killed.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/27/world/middleeast/al-baghdadi-successor-reported-killed.html)
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Winning!! :beer: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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ISIS already has a new leader in former Saddam Hussein officer
By Lee Brown
October 28, 2019 | 8:16am | Updated October 28, 2019 | 11:14am
ISIS already has a new leader — a feared former officer for Saddam Hussein known as “the Destroyer,†according to reports.
Abdullah Qardash was reportedly already running day-to-day operations and kill campaigns for the terror group and formally took over its leadership after Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s death on Saturday.
“Baghdadi was a figurehead. He was not involved in operations or day-to-day,†a regional intelligence official told Newsweek in confirming the successor. “All Baghdadi did was say yes or no — no planning.â€
Read more at: https://nypost.com/2019/10/28/former-saddam-hussein-officer-selected-as-new-leader-of-isis/
Apparently, Qardash was already pretty much in charge of things. No, this is not the same name I saw in another story on this forum about another killing (assassination?) yesterday.
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Comprehensive and updated news thread on topic.
Until it is 24-48 hours old or so, I won't merge anyone's thread into this one generally speaking (except duplicate threads and so on) but a number of threads are starting to emerge so, I wanted to at least, make this option available to post here.
I will post my threads and may merge others after 24-48 hours. Threads with lots of responses and active will generally not be merged.
One never knows if some other 'big story' could hit. Then, we may turn our attention elsewhere.
All advice is welcomed.
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That poor dog. I bet he is licking his own butt to get the taste of austere religious scolar out of his mouth.
@The Ghost
The dog was injured when the suicide vest was detonated. He may have died because he had to have been close,and it was in a cement room with no windows,which would increase the blast pressure.
I sincerely hope he is ok,though. I know there is not much chance he isn't deaf and will have to be retired,but the good news here is these dogs almost always go home with their handlers to become house pets once they are too hurt to hunt. Needless to say,the handlers and the dogs become VERY close while serving together,and the surviving dogs live VERY nice lives once they retire. Chances are if you kicked one the handler would chew you leg off.
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@sneakypete
It was reported he is back with his handler and back to work.
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Hopefully this is correct.
That said, what kind of idiot would think that an oil tanker truck would be a ideal transportation for smuggling someone through a war zone? I hope all terrorists become that kind of stupid!
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@sneakypete
It was reported he is back with his handler and back to work.
@The Ghost
EXCELLENT news! I have no idea how that is possible unless they have somehow developed hearing aids/headphones for dogs that shut down at certain levels. He is a trained dog,and he was given the attack command,so you KNOW he was going all out to knock down and subdue the target.
You don't even want to be NEAR a small concrete room when a big charge goes off inside.
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That someone new would step up was a forgone conclusion. But knowledge was lost and communication links were lost and internecine power struggles become more likely. A rebuilding period is a period of greater vulnerability. And I think Trump might be the kind of leader to have that exploited.
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That someone new would step up was a forgone conclusion. But knowledge was lost and communication links were lost and internecine power struggles become more likely. A rebuilding period is a period of greater vulnerability.
@PeteS in CA
Yup,and whoever the new leader is,is bound to be hearing footsteps in his sleep now that there is a "New Sheriff in town".
Keep it up long enough,and selecting new ISIS leaders becomes a "Three Stooges" routine, "Ali Baba,YOU are the new ISIS leader! "AM NOT! You are the new ruler!",etc,etc,etc.
And I think Trump might be the kind of leader to have that exploited.
Thankfully,and having someone like him in the Oval Office is long overdue.
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Dog injured in al-Baghdadi raid that killed ISIS leader returns to service: report
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/467748-dog-injured-in-baghdad-raid-that-killed-isis-leader-returns-to
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As soon as another 'leader' takes his place we should very publicly eliminate him, and the next and so on.
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Who is Qardash and why did Baghdadi select him?
Qardash claims to hail from the Quraysh tribe, a requirement for the caliph under Sunni jurisprudence. In addition to his family’s lineage and his education, Qardash’s roles in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, the US occupation and the years of the caliphate’s existence are important factors too.
Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/isis-death-baghdadi-new-leader-qardash.html#ixzz63gG7e7T0 (https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/10/isis-death-baghdadi-new-leader-qardash.html#ixzz63gG7e7T0)
FWIW, this is interesting.
This other guy is being called the new leader also, so, I guess we don't know for sure.
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FWIW, this is interesting.
This other guy is being called the new leader also, so, I guess we don't know for sure.
Wile E. Coyote: "My name is Mud."
Qardash: "My name is Target."
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Opinion | Baghdadi’s death underscores what we’ve lost by abandoning Syria’s Kurds
By Brett McGurk
The killing of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is great news for the civilized world. The raid deep into northwestern Syria speaks once again to the incredible professionalism of the U.S. Special Forces and the intelligence analysts who help target their operations. The details of this operation speak as well to larger truths about Syria — and to what we have forfeited with the sudden U.S. retreat across its northeast this month.
Baghdadi is not an easily replaceable leader. He claimed unique religious credentials as a Muslim caliph, and his declaration of an Islamic State “caliphate†galvanized tens of thousands of foreign fighters to flood into Syria. His successor will keep the Islamic State alive in Iraq and Syria — the group maintains more than 10,000 fighters there — but after five years of sustained pressure it’s a weakened organization with no remaining territorial hold.
This would be the perfect time to consolidate success and act on what is likely a trove of intelligence pulled from the Baghdadi compound. Our analysts are surely poring over this information now, and it will lead to Islamic State sleeper cells and networks across Syria, Iraq and elsewhere. But our abrupt pullout from Syria will make it harder to act on this information. U.S. Special Forces have already left positions overwatching the Islamic State’s former strongholds, including Raqqa and Manbij, where major attacks into Europe were organized. These areas are now controlled by Russia and the Bashar al-Assad regime, foreclosing our ability to act on targetable information.
Read more at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/baghdadis-death-underscores-what-weve-lost-by-abandoning-syrias-kurds/2019/10/27/117c6688-f8db-11e9-8906-ab6b60de9124_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/baghdadis-death-underscores-what-weve-lost-by-abandoning-syrias-kurds/2019/10/27/117c6688-f8db-11e9-8906-ab6b60de9124_story.html)
500 US troops return to NE Syria
Syrian forces increase border control
28 OCTOBER, 17:04
(ANSAmed) - BEIRUT, OCTOBER 28 - US military forces have returned to their bases in northeastern Syria after withdrawing in previous days during a Turkish military operation in the area. Reports were from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), which noted that 500 US soldiers had returned from Kurdistan Regional Government territory in Iraq to bases along the M4 highway, which crosses the region east of the Euphrates river from west to east....
Read more at: http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/nations/syria/2019/10/28/500-us-troops-return-to-ne-syria_5e2b89e8-c36a-4e13-a048-0bc5077190bd.html (http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/nations/syria/2019/10/28/500-us-troops-return-to-ne-syria_5e2b89e8-c36a-4e13-a048-0bc5077190bd.html)
Strange, I will watch this story closely though a number of news agencies have reported it. It looks like "inconsistent" foreign policy, there's always a chance, this stuff is planned though.... though, I think chances of that are small.
(https://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2018/01/map-syria-governorates-idlib.png)
So, this is where Idlib is per map. I really did not know. So, it's a state and a town? And then, the Kurd area is to an extent that North East corner but it's also elsewhere.... if anyone is curious about the map of Syria.
Almost all topics merged, I left the original thread by Mr. Close and also Chosen Daughter's thread but other related has been merged.... I hope people choose to join in these threads.
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Dog injured in al-Baghdadi raid that killed ISIS leader returns to service: report
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/467748-dog-injured-in-baghdad-raid-that-killed-isis-leader-returns-to
He should be allowed to retire with honor but will likely simply keep on working as heros do.
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Trump declassifies photo of heroic Belgian Malinois dog who chased down Baghdadi
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH_acyVUYAElRgl?format=jpg&name=900x900)
more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/great-job-trump-tweets-image-of-belgian-malinois-that-chased-down-baghdadi (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/great-job-trump-tweets-image-of-belgian-malinois-that-chased-down-baghdadi)
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@The Ghost
EXCELLENT news! I have no idea how that is possible unless they have somehow developed hearing aids/headphones for dogs that shut down at certain levels. He is a trained dog,and he was given the attack command,so you KNOW he was going all out to knock down and subdue the target.
You don't even want to be NEAR a small concrete room when a big charge goes off inside.
@sneakypete
(https://i.postimg.cc/SQP0s9Tf/999999999999999999999.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVMzRYK7/coastguard1.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Trump declassifies photo of heroic Belgian Malinois dog who chased down Baghdadi
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH_acyVUYAElRgl?format=jpg&name=900x900)
more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/great-job-trump-tweets-image-of-belgian-malinois-that-chased-down-baghdadi (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/great-job-trump-tweets-image-of-belgian-malinois-that-chased-down-baghdadi)
@mystery-ak
Look at how excited and happy that dog looks! He looks that way because he has a difficult and important job to do,and he knows he is good at doing it. Taking him away from it would kill his spirit unless maybe he continued to live with his best friend and handler,
Damn shame more people don't understand and enjoy the pride felt in a job well done.
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@sneakypete
(https://i.postimg.cc/SQP0s9Tf/999999999999999999999.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVMzRYK7/coastguard1.png) (https://postimages.org/)
@mrclose
Thank you! I knew about the eye protection,and am VERY happy to learn about the ear protectors.
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Multiple Defense Department sources confirmed to Newsweek on Monday that the dog's name is Conan.
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Boy, we can't thank the Kurds enough, I hope we find out all of the details.
The "spy-source" who got into Baghdadi's top circle was there when it happened. I'm not sure if he was Kurdish, all of the details are out there, it wouldn't have been possible without the help we got.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/dVMzRYK7/coastguard1.png)
There's a dog in every pack who will hang their head out and let their tongue flap in the breeze.... :laugh:
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(https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-5036-2.jpg)
The dog has issued a statement: "I like butts. I've always liked butts. I still like butts, but I never sniff butts to the point of excess. Who's a good boy? I am."
Democrats immediately called for the dog to be court-martialed and for the death of Baghdadi to be overturned.
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(https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-5036-2.jpg)
The dog has issued a statement: "I like butts. I've always liked butts. I still like butts, but I never sniff butts to the point of excess. Who's a good boy? I am."
He's the Sir MixaLot of the canine world.
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(https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-5036-2.jpg)
The dog has issued a statement: "I like butts. I've always liked butts. I still like butts, but I never sniff butts to the point of excess. Who's a good boy? I am."
Democrats immediately called for the dog to be court-martialed and for the death of Baghdadi to be overturned.
(https://pics.me.me/whos-a-good-dog-dog-philosophy-whoah-thats-a-hell-19220722.png)
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Aftermath Videos: US blew up Baghdadi’s house so it wouldn’t become a terrorist shrine
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/10/aftermath-videos-us-blew-up-baghdadis-house-so-it-wouldnt-become-a-terrorist-shrine/ (https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/10/aftermath-videos-us-blew-up-baghdadis-house-so-it-wouldnt-become-a-terrorist-shrine/)
American Military News October 29, 2019 Ryan Morgan
Members of the U.S. Army Delta Force team that raided ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s compound in northern Syria ended the mission with a bang – calling in an airstrike to destroy the terrorist leader’s home.
Soldiers from the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment – better known as Delta Force – reportedly called in the airstrike on Baghdadi’s compound in an effort to prevent his home from becoming a shrine to ISIS fighters and other Islamic extremists, according to Business Insider.
Aerial footage posted by Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty appears to show the rubble of Baghdadi’s compound, located in the village of Barisha, which is in the northern Syrian province of Idlib.
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Aftermath Videos: US blew up Baghdadi’s house so it wouldn’t become a terrorist shrine
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/10/aftermath-videos-us-blew-up-baghdadis-house-so-it-wouldnt-become-a-terrorist-shrine/ (https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/10/aftermath-videos-us-blew-up-baghdadis-house-so-it-wouldnt-become-a-terrorist-shrine/)
American Military News October 29, 2019 Ryan Morgan
And that's how it's done. Burn the crops, and salt the Earth. Leave heads on pikes. We have GOT to stop pussyfooting around with these animals.
I heard they buried the Baghdadi bits at sea. We still don't get it.
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I heard they buried the Baghdadi bits at sea. We still don't get it.
@Cyber Liberty
Don't worry about it. They probable ground up the leg parts they brought back and flushed them down the toilet. Since DC is on the east coast,chances are the molecules will end up at sea.
They have to keep it quiet because they don't want to get slammed for polluting the ocean by dumping a Muslim in it.
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And that's how it's done. Burn the crops, and salt the Earth. Leave heads on pikes. We have GOT to stop pussyfooting around with these animals.
I heard they buried the Baghdadi bits at sea. We still don't get it.
LOL! Don't believe it.
The team probably took turns pissing on the pieces.
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60 hours ago Trump announced Baghdaddi had been killed by US forces. I'm just reminding you all because Foxnew.com doesn't have one story about it on their front page.
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This thread and maybe the Syria conflict thread too, might both go into the general world forum area tomorrow meaning becoming a non-sticky thread....for all members... it can always be moved back if the situation calls for it. A lot of news and not the most positive of subjects. The war on terror goes on.
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Old article, tweeted by Rubio:
Marco Rubio
@marcorubio
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Oct 27
The operation that killed the degenerate #baghdadi was named after a real hero Kayla Mueller who despite the most horrific treatment at the hands of #ISIS displayed courage & selflessness while in captivity & refused to renounce her Christian faith.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1188892515954515968/UK3BFKsH?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1188515884182245377
The following article discusses some of the other hostages too, ABC must have done a documentary on this.
Kayla Mueller in Captivity: Courage, Selflessness as She Defended Christian Faith to ISIS Executioner 'Jihadi John'
By james gordon meek, megan christie, brian epstein and brian ross
Aug 25, 2016, 2:58 PM ET
ABC News
American hostage Kayla Mueller was tortured, verbally abused, forced into slave labor for ISIS commanders in Syria and raped by the group's top leader, but her fellow hostages say she never surrendered hope, she selflessly put the welfare of fellow captives above her own and she even stood up to executioner "Jihadi John" to defend her Christian faith.
Four former hostages who shared cells with Mueller, speaking publicly for the first time about their shared ordeal for ABC News' "20/20" broadcast, "The Girl Left Behind," airing Friday, say the Prescott, Arizona, humanitarian aid worker was a courageous 25-year-old who inspired them.
Their ISIS guards were overseen by the British tough Mohammed Emwazi, who would later be dubbed Jihadi John, as he carried out the beheadings and killings of 10 hostages. The Londoner led three other Britons who oversaw the hostage operation. Their prisoners called them "The Beatles."
(https://s.abcnews.com/images/2020/160824_2020_bross_promo_16x9_992.jpg)
More at: https://abcnews.go.com/International/kayla-mueller-captivity-courage-selflessness-defended-christian-faith/story?id=41626763
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LOL! Don't believe it.
The team probably took turns pissing on the pieces.
Salt water, either way...
Jussayin' :whistle:
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And that's how it's done. Burn the crops, and salt the Earth. Leave heads on pikes. We have GOT to stop pussyfooting around with these animals.
I heard they buried the Baghdadi bits at sea. We still don't get it.
@Cyber Liberty
Oh,we get it,alright. Other than feeding them to the hogs,burial at sea is about as bad as it gets for fundie Muslims. They love having shrines to visit and lay flowers on so they can feel like they are standing next to their martyr.
Dump their remains in deep water,and they become fish feces,and they are lost forever with nowhere to worship them.
Not that I necessarily believe anybody is going to make a special effort to get lab pieces in morgue in Virginia,for example,transported to a Navy ship for a burial at sea.
Now where there are furnaces and dumpsters nearby.
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@Cyber Liberty
Oh,we get it,alright. Other than feeding them to the hogs,burial at sea is about as bad as it gets for fundie Muslims. They love having shrines to visit and lay flowers on so they can feel like they are standing next to their martyr.
Dump their remains in deep water,and they become fish feces,and they are lost forever with nowhere to worship them.
Not that I necessarily believe anybody is going to make a special effort to get lab pieces in morgue in Virginia,for example,transported to a Navy ship for a burial at sea.
Now where there are furnaces and dumpsters nearby.
Hey! Rats, birds, and stray animals gotta eat, too....
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Salt water, either way...
Jussayin' :whistle:
Prevent treatment for jellyfish bites too.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EII8uskX0AAac2O?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1189580032798273537/photo/1
Baghdadi was evil, still an odd situation. Dubya certainly didn't like Assad. From what I can gather, most refugees have been fleeing the government. Just read everything if one disagrees. Lister is among the experts: https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister
That's not to call for an overthrow or anything of the government. Tough case.
Forever war at this case. I can't imagine what anyone would envision as an endgame and even if it were open, the International Community is not going to help Syria rebuild.
The most obvious fact for the rebellion to me, is quite a minority is ruling over the majority. That's it in a nutshell. But, I'm not totally gloomy, maybe there can be a working peace. That's up to the experts again.
https://nedaa-sy.com/en
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EII8uskX0AAac2O?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/1189580032798273537/photo/1
Baghdadi was evil, still an odd situation. Dubya certainly didn't like Assad. From what I can gather, most refugees have been fleeing the government. Just read everything if one disagrees. Lister is among the experts: https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister
That's not to call for an overthrow or anything of the government. Tough case.
Forever war at this case. I can't imagine what anyone would envision as an endgame and even if it were open, the International Community is not going to help Syria rebuild.
The most obvious fact for the rebellion to me, is quite a minority is ruling over the majority. That's it in a nutshell. But, I'm not totally gloomy, maybe there can be a working peace. That's up to the experts again.
https://nedaa-sy.com/en
That graphic has been called out on the basis of some 5,000 Yazidi men killed by ISIS alone, not to mention the countless others. As for who attributes whose death to whom, that is often problematical.
Assad has to be the meanest dog in the kennel, so to speak, just to keep the intertribal factions from killing each other. It's a nasty mess, no matter how you slice it, and no one is arguing he's a wonderful guy, but ISIS is a threat so long as any of it exists.
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Fighting ISIS: why soft power still matters
The stunning US operation which killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi on 27 October spurred conjecture as to whether this dealt a fatal blow to Daesh (ISIS). The consensus among experts is that the would-be caliph’s death is symbolic but ultimately irrelevant to the group’s continued existence in more than 30 countries around the world. Some suggest that US President Donald Trump’s detailed account of the operation, likening Baghdadi to a dog who died ‘whimpering and crying’, may in fact embolden his followers to launch brutal revenge attacks.
With the speculation and euphoria now over, it is helpful to recall the numerous warnings of military and intelligence chiefs in the Middle East regarding the futility of a ‘guns blazing’ approach in battling radicalised armed groups. Hard-power operations, the US stock in trade since 2001, may be spectacular and symbolic but are ephemeral and usually counterproductive particularly as the ideology of these groups calls for armed struggle and sacrifice. The ‘hard power’ approach does not defeat the ideology; rather, hard-power operations validate the ideology. Iraqi Kurdish intelligence chief Lahur Talabani lamented in November 2016 that ‘there is no effective effort in place to fight the ideology.’
‘We can lose Daesh, in terms of the structure, shape and form they are in right now. But as we saw with Jund al-Islam, which morphed into Ansar al-Islam, as with the case of al-Qaida, we can try and fight these guys militarily, but they always come back stronger in another form,’ he said.
More at: https://mondediplo.com/openpage/fighting-isis-why-soft-power-still-matters
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Some suggest that US President Donald Trump’s detailed account of the operation, likening Baghdadi to a dog who died ‘whimpering and crying’, may in fact embolden his followers to launch brutal revenge attacks.
@TomSea
You can't play "whack a mole" unless you can get the moles to pop their heads up.
With the speculation and euphoria now over, it is helpful to recall the numerous warnings of military and intelligence chiefs in the Middle East regarding the futility of a ‘guns blazing’ approach in battling radicalised armed groups. Hard-power operations, the US stock in trade since 2001, may be spectacular and symbolic but are ephemeral and usually counterproductive particularly as the ideology of these groups calls for armed struggle and sacrifice. The ‘hard power’ approach does not defeat the ideology; rather, hard-power operations validate the ideology. Iraqi Kurdish intelligence chief Lahur Talabani lamented in November 2016 that ‘there is no effective effort in place to fight the ideology.’
We iz da wurld.....
We iz da peep-pulls...
Group hug,group hug! Let's just hug the hatred and the violence out of them! Yeah,that's the ticket!
‘We can lose Daesh, in terms of the structure, shape and form they are in right now. But as we saw with Jund al-Islam, which morphed into Ansar al-Islam, as with the case of al-Qaida, we can try and fight these guys militarily, but they always come back stronger in another form,’ he said.
Ok,so let's treat them like the human disease they really are,and kill them all off anywhere and everywhere they are found,and start a secondary program to quietly let the ruling ragheads understand that they,their families,and their bank accounts are NOT going to be exempted unless they get on board with our program.
What the idiots in the "Ah think tanks" keep overlooking is this IS a "top down movement". The average ISIS/whatever raghead foot soldier has the IQ of a cockroach and slightly less education. They are TOOLS,not thinkers. The way to stop this,as well as every other war when you stop and think about it,is NOT to kill foot soldiers,but to shut down the financing and remove the leadership. Once they stop being fed and watered,the typical raghead will drop his empty AK,and start walking home to his visit with his favorite sheep.
This will break the Bush Crime Family hearts,as well as the hearts of other prominent US Politicians,but the Saud Royal Family is at the heart of this,and examples need to be made to impress the younger generations and make them understand it is no longer business as usual. Want to get their attention? Start freezing and seizing bank accounts and assets in the west. Make them goobers understand there will be NO more partying and good times in the west away from the sight of the Mullahs and the devout,and that unless and until they decide to play along,the rest of their lives will be spent in Arabia because they will be detained and their airplanes and anything else they have with them will be seized and they will be returned flying coach with a discount airline. Or a slow boat that leaks. Or maybe not at all,depending on who they are. They might just cease to exist with no explanations,but maybe a few rumors about being ground up as dog food or fed to hogs.
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@TomSea
You can't play "whack a mole" unless you can get the moles to pop their heads up.
We iz da wurld.....
We iz da peep-pulls...
Group hug,group hug! Let's just hug the hatred and the violence out of them! Yeah,that's the ticket!
Ok,so let's treat them like the human disease they really are,and kill them all off anywhere and everywhere they are found,and start a secondary program to quietly let the ruling ragheads understand that they,their families,and their bank accounts are NOT going to be exempted unless they get on board with our program.
What the idiots in the "Ah think tanks" keep overlooking is this IS a "top down movement". The average ISIS/whatever raghead foot soldier has the IQ of a cockroach and slightly less education. They are TOOLS,not thinkers. The way to stop this,as well as every other war when you stop and think about it,is NOT to kill foot soldiers,but to shut down the financing and remove the leadership. Once they stop being fed and watered,the typical raghead will drop his empty AK,and start walking home to his visit with his favorite sheep.
This will break the Bush Crime Family hearts,as well as the hearts of other prominent US Politicians,but the Saud Royal Family is at the heart of this,and examples need to be made to impress the younger generations and make them understand it is no longer business as usual. Want to get their attention? Start freezing and seizing bank accounts and assets in the west. Make them goobers understand there will be NO more partying and good times in the west away from the sight of the Mullahs and the devout,and that unless and until they decide to play along,the rest of their lives will be spent in Arabia because they will be detained and their airplanes and anything else they have with them will be seized and they will be returned flying coach with a discount airline. Or a slow boat that leaks. Or maybe not at all,depending on who they are. They might just cease to exist with no explanations,but maybe a few rumors about being ground up as dog food or fed to hogs.
Okay, that last got me thinking. Just quietly video these characters whooping it up in the west and send the e-mail to daddy, or post it on some site over there. Maybe that'd wrap up some of this crap