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Most cancer is caused by processed food and toxic ingredients, new study confirms
Sunday, August 13, 2017 by: Jhoanna Robinson
(Natural News) A recently published study out of Canada showed that the total amount of cancer rates that can be linked to lifestyle and environmental factors is substantial, at almost 41 percent.
According to the researchers, “We estimated summary population attributable risk estimates for 24 risk factors (smoking [both passive and active], overweight and obesity, inadequate physical activity, diet [inadequate fruit and vegetable consumption, inadequate fiber intake, excess red and processed meat consumption, salt consumption, inadequate calcium and vitamin D intake], alcohol, hormones [oral contraceptives and hormone therapy], infections [Epstein-Barr virus, hepatitis B and C viruses, human papillomavirus, Helicobacter pylori], air pollution, natural and artificial ultraviolet radiation, radon and water disinfection by-products) by combining population attributable risk estimates for each of the 24 factors that had been previously estimated.â€
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-13-most-cancer-caused-by-processed-food-and-toxic-ingredients-new-study-confirms-2.html (https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-13-most-cancer-caused-by-processed-food-and-toxic-ingredients-new-study-confirms-2.html)
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Well according to this site tracking the history of cancer, I would think not.
http://canceratlas.cancer.org/history-cancer/ (http://canceratlas.cancer.org/history-cancer/)
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Natural News strikes again...
Vitamin D can't be gotten from unprocessed food in any quantity that is useful. Either you get ultraviolet light exposure to produce it in your skin, eat Vitamin D supplemented food (processed) or you take a supplement - neither of the latter two are "natural". You need thousands of D3 IU everyday one way or another.
Regarding "red meat", I believe this is just more bad food science which there is much of. Much like real butter was a "heart killer" for the last 30 plus years - which was dead wrong with any actual study instead of just blind "fat is bad".
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My paternal grandmother had bad eating habits. Red meats, processed foods, junk food, excess sugar, salt, fat, no fruit or vegetables, cooked and baked with lard -- you name it. She lived to be 90 and she didn't have cancer. Actually, cancer is almost non-existent on both sides of the family. Now heart disease is another matter. But hey, I guess we are all going to die from something.
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That is Total unmitigated bullshit.
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Natural News strikes again...
Vitamin D can't be gotten from unprocessed food in any quantity that is useful. Either you get ultraviolet light exposure to produce it in your skin, eat Vitamin D supplemented food (processed) or you take a supplement - neither of the latter two are "natural". You need thousands of D3 IU everyday one way or another.
Regarding "red meat", I believe this is just more bad food science which there is much of. Much like real butter was a "heart killer" for the last 30 plus years - which was dead wrong with any actual study instead of just blind "fat is bad".
In my neck of the woods, trying to get Vitamin D from the sun alone is next to impossible, particularly in winters like this last one. My region can have months of gloom. This winter I didn't see much of the sun from early December till one day in mid-February -- then it was gloomy again almost every day till this past week. Most people around these parts are deficient in Vitamin D unless they either consume D-enriched foods or take a supplement. In addition, I have kidney disease and one of the side problems associated with it is deficiency in certain nutrients, including Vitamin D. So I have to take a supplement.
Not everyone lives in California, Florida or the tropics where it's sunny almost every day.
NN is whacked.
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In my neck of the woods, trying to get Vitamin D from the sun alone is next to impossible, particularly in winters like this last one. My region can have months of gloom. This winter I didn't see much of the sun from early December till one day in mid-February -- then it was gloomy again almost every day till this past week. Most people around these parts are deficient in Vitamin D unless they either consume D-enriched foods or take a supplement. In addition, I have kidney disease and one of the side problems associated with it is deficiency in certain nutrients, including Vitamin D. So I have to take a supplement.
Not everyone lives in California, Florida or the tropics where it's sunny almost every day.
NN is whacked.
I live in California (currently, moving to AZ soon) and I take 10,000 IU of D3 a day. And my D3 blood serum levels are mid range for normal...
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Natural News strikes again...
Vitamin D can't be gotten from unprocessed food in any quantity that is useful. Either you get ultraviolet light exposure to produce it in your skin, eat Vitamin D supplemented food (processed) or you take a supplement - neither of the latter two are "natural". You need thousands of D3 IU everyday one way or another.
Not true. most trout and salmon are high in vit D, and why natural northern diets run heavy to those fish.
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Not true. most trout and salmon are high in vit D, and why natural northern diets run heavy to those fish.
https://www.vitalchoice.com/article/wild-salmon-affirmed-as-top-vitamin-d-source (https://www.vitalchoice.com/article/wild-salmon-affirmed-as-top-vitamin-d-source)
Gee, I only have to eat 35 oz. of wild salmon a day to keep my D3 blood serum level in the mid range...
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In my neck of the woods, trying to get Vitamin D from the sun alone is next to impossible, particularly in winters like this last one. My region can have months of gloom. This winter I didn't see much of the sun from early December till one day in mid-February -- then it was gloomy again almost every day till this past week.
The winter sunlight won't produce vitamin D. The Sun must be high in the sky for the UVB to not be filtered out in the atmosphere. And glass blocks UVB so your cat is wasting its time lying in that sunbeam.
I supplement.
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That is Total unmitigated bullshit.
Are you trying to tell me that the wack jobs at Natural News are not the gold standard in health news?!?!?
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https://www.vitalchoice.com/article/wild-salmon-affirmed-as-top-vitamin-d-source (https://www.vitalchoice.com/article/wild-salmon-affirmed-as-top-vitamin-d-source)
Gee, I only have to eat 35 oz. of wild salmon a day to keep my D3 blood serum level in the mid range...
Nah... That assumes no sunlight at all, which is false. And wild salmon is significantly higher. And '35oz' ain't all that much if it is smoked and cured down. I eat kokanee 3 or 4 times a week in the winter, and smoked salmon like candy. Not to mention trout.
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Nah... That assumes no sunlight at all, which is false. And wild salmon is significantly higher. And '35oz' ain't all that much if it is smoked and cured down. I eat kokanee 3 or 4 times a week in the winter, and smoked salmon like candy. Not to mention trout.
I take 10,000 IU now a day and that is what it takes to get my blood test to about the center of "normal". Just a fact.
Only wild-salmon has the high vitamin D levels, not the farmed stuff. And even then, 2+ lbs a day would be a bit much for me...
My point was that vitamin D is not acquired normally through diet short of supplements, an unnatural process. If you get plenty of sunshine you don't need it in your diet at all. The primary point being this article is shit.
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I take 10,000 IU now a day and that is what it takes to get my blood test to about the center of "normal". Just a fact.
Then you are not assimilating vitD... Look to your calcium and magnesium levels, and switch to an easier to assimilate form. I can't use pills. I don't assimilate them well - An ineffective method for me. Sublingual liquid works best for me, or to take my meds naturally in foods and teas.
Only wild-salmon has the high vitamin D levels, not the farmed stuff. And even then, 2+ lbs a day would be a bit much for me...
Yes, that's what I eat - wild kokanee and wild trout.
My point was that vitamin D is not acquired normally through diet short of supplements, an unnatural process. If you get plenty of sunshine you don't need it in your diet at all. The primary point being this article is shit.
And I will disagree wit you in that. I am far north, and REALLY susceptible to lowD. But I now take no supplements at all, and my D level was fine all winter long. The natural way is far better.
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Then you are not assimilating vitD... Look to your calcium and magnesium levels, and switch to an easier to assimilate form. I can't use pills. I don't assimilate them well - An ineffective method for me. Sublingual liquid works best for me, or to take my meds naturally in foods and teas.
Yes, that's what I eat - wild kokanee and wild trout.
And I will disagree wit you in that. I am far north, and REALLY susceptible to lowD. But I now take no supplements at all, and my D level was fine all winter long. The natural way is far better.
I get very little sun. I'm very white/pale with many freckles and had red hair. I burn in minutes. I suspect that you spend a fair amount of time outside even during the winter. For most people it doesn't take all that much sun exposure to meet their needs.
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Three summers ago I got cancer for my 36th birthday. When I called my cousin, a pathologist at Memorial Sloan Kettering, to tell her, her first sentence was, “I’m so sorry and we’re going to get through this.†Her second sentece was, “If you’re not eating all organic food you have to start now.†My garden has gotten bigger each year.
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Three summers ago I got cancer for my 36th birthday.
That seems like a shitty gift. Did you at least get a receipt so you could return it?
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That seems like a shitty gift. Did you at least get a receipt so you could return it?
Lol, no gift receipt. I went through a lot. I had world class docs recommending surgeries, painful tests, chemo, and radiation. Thank God for my cousin. My situation had never been seen before so everybody and his brother wanted in on it so that they could claim they “treated†me. It took seven months of sending my slides around the world to nail down a diagnosis: sarcoma. I was originally told it was a metastasis since it was found near lymph nodes, and that the primary had somehow gotten twisted off from the blood supply and “died.†It turns out that what was taken in the biopsy wasn’t a metastasis but the primary. I denied chemo and radiation after a radical resection of the original area. Docs kept pushing it, but I learned to keep my cousin’s identity in my back pocket.
At the time of diagnosis my kids were 7, 4, and 2, the oldest of which is on the high functioning end of the autism spectrum. Maybe because I’m likely to have a happy ending I can say this: I was lucky to get cancer. I actually had a really hard time typing that and my eyes are tearing up. My husband and I make a great team. My definition of things has changed. I know what real stress is and it isn’t getting a bad night’s sleep or a rough day at work. It’s not even that time my daughter threw up all over the pew in front of us at church. That’s life, not stress. Life is better for me now that I had cancer. Again, I can say that because so far so good. I don’t know that I could say that if my prognosis was different.
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Lol, no gift receipt. I went through a lot. I had world class docs recommending surgeries, painful tests, chemo, and radiation. Thank God for my cousin. My situation had never been seen before so everybody and his brother wanted in on it so that they could claim they “treated†me. It took seven months of sending my slides around the world to nail down a diagnosis: sarcoma. I was originally told it was a metastasis since it was found near lymph nodes, and that the primary had somehow gotten twisted off from the blood supply and “died.†It turns out that what was taken in the biopsy wasn’t a metastasis but the primary. I denied chemo and radiation after a radical resection of the original area. Docs kept pushing it, but I learned to keep my cousin’s identity in my back pocket.
At the time of diagnosis my kids were 7, 4, and 2, the oldest of which is on the high functioning end of the autism spectrum. Maybe because I’m likely to have a happy ending I can say this: I was lucky to get cancer. I actually had a really hard time typing that and my eyes are tearing up. My husband and I make a great team. My definition of things has changed. I know what real stress is and it isn’t getting a bad night’s sleep or a rough day at work. It’s not even that time my daughter threw up all over the pew in front of us at church. That’s life, not stress. Life is better for me now that I had cancer. Again, I can say that because so far so good. I don’t know that I could say that if my prognosis was different.
I too have had cancer (kidney) and so far I'm a survivor. Yes, it very definitely changes your outlook on life. I think shorter term now. The one thing is, it is always lurking in the back of your mind, will it return.
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Lol, no gift receipt. I went through a lot. I had world class docs recommending surgeries, painful tests, chemo, and radiation. Thank God for my cousin. My situation had never been seen before so everybody and his brother wanted in on it so that they could claim they “treated†me. It took seven months of sending my slides around the world to nail down a diagnosis: sarcoma. I was originally told it was a metastasis since it was found near lymph nodes, and that the primary had somehow gotten twisted off from the blood supply and “died.†It turns out that what was taken in the biopsy wasn’t a metastasis but the primary. I denied chemo and radiation after a radical resection of the original area. Docs kept pushing it, but I learned to keep my cousin’s identity in my back pocket.
At the time of diagnosis my kids were 7, 4, and 2, the oldest of which is on the high functioning end of the autism spectrum. Maybe because I’m likely to have a happy ending I can say this: I was lucky to get cancer. I actually had a really hard time typing that and my eyes are tearing up. My husband and I make a great team. My definition of things has changed. I know what real stress is and it isn’t getting a bad night’s sleep or a rough day at work. It’s not even that time my daughter threw up all over the pew in front of us at church. That’s life, not stress. Life is better for me now that I had cancer. Again, I can say that because so far so good. I don’t know that I could say that if my prognosis was different.
Wow. Well that makes the coffee mug I got for my birthdays seem a whole lot cooler now.
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I too have had cancer (kidney) and so far I'm a survivor. Yes, it very definitely changes your outlook on life. I think shorter term now. The one thing is, it is always lurking in the back of your mind, will it return.
I get that. The “what if†is always there. I love watching Rick Steve’s Europe, and one thing he says really stands out. When people tell him to travel safely, he tells them to stay at home safely. Will my end be to cancer, or to that banana peel my son dropped on the kitchen floor?
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Wow. Well that makes the coffee mug I got for my birthdays seem a whole lot cooler now.
It should. @RoosGirl put a lot of time and effort into finding you just the right one.
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Are you trying to tell me that the wack jobs at Natural News are not the gold standard in health news?!?!?
I know. Incredulous ain't it.
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It should. @RoosGirl put a lot of time and effort into finding you just the right one.
I would totally buy that for Frank.
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I would totally buy that for Frank.
@Frank Cannon doesn’t know how good you are to him. If it was up to me he’d get this:
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@Frank Cannon doesn’t know how good you are to him. If it was up to me he’d get this:
Why would you get Frank earrings?
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Why would you get Frank earrings?
Come on! Can’t a guy feel special?
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Why would you get Frank earrings?
Those are earrings? Shit. I've been using them wrong.
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Those are earrings? Shit. I've been using them wrong.
Of course they're earrings. What else would you use them on? And clearly the picture on the mug is of ear lobes.
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Really? What caused cancer before food was processed and "toxic ingredients" invented?
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My paternal grandmother had bad eating habits. Red meats, processed foods, junk food, excess sugar, salt, fat, no fruit or vegetables, cooked and baked with lard -- you name it. She lived to be 90 and she didn't have cancer. Actually, cancer is almost non-existent on both sides of the family. Now heart disease is another matter. But hey, I guess we are all going to die from something.
@Applewood
My grandfather ate red meat,smoked home-rolled cigarettes or a pipe,and drank white whiskey his whole life. The water he drank came from a hand pump with a wellpoint sunk in the yard that was never tested for anything. Wood stove for heat and cooking,no insulation in the house and heat only in the kitchen when someone was cooking,or the "great room" where everyone sat around until bedtime. He was 103 when he died.
If it were possible to ask him,I am fairly certain he would claim the greatest inventions were window screens and indoor plumbing,but I'm just guessing. I never met him. He died in the 1930's.
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@sneakypete
The local paper used to run stories once in a while on people when they made it to 100 or more. Invariably, the person would be asked to what does he or she attribute to his/her longevity. Sometimes you would get the expected answer - - clean living, going to church, etc. But more often than not, they would say they smoked, drank whiskey, ate a fatty steak every day and so on.
Who knows why some people live so long and others don't. Maybe if you ate right, exercised and discarded vices like drinking and smoking, your odds of living long might be better than someone else's. But then again, you could do everything the "experts" tell you to, then one day step outside and get run down by a bus. We just don't know what's going to happen and when it's our time.
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Really? What caused cancer before food was processed and "toxic ingredients" invented?
From what I hear on late night television, it was talcum powder.....
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@sneakypete
@Applewood
Who knows why some people live so long and others don't.
Mostly due to genetics,and never once doing something like standing in the wrong place at the wrong time. For example,on train tracks when a choo choo is coming,or where an artillery shell is about to land. In other words,luck and common sense.
Extreme risk takers rarely live to be old,and regret living to be old when they get there due to all the aches and pains.
Maybe if you ate right, exercised and discarded vices like drinking and smoking, your odds of living long might be better than someone else's.
Or maybe it just SEEMS like you have lived longer? Time passes slowly when you are bored or serving time.
But then again, you could do everything the "experts" tell you to, then one day step outside and get run down by a bus. We just don't know what's going to happen and when it's our time.
Bingo! I have done some truly epic stoopid stuff in my time,and lots of it,yet here I am with no explanation for it. I sure as hell don't recommend anyone else do stuff like ride their motorcycle to the liquor store in a blizzard to get there before they close at midnight because they are running out of whiskey,yet that is just one of the stoopid things I have done. And that one ain't even in the top 10 percent.
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What a load. Every fool knows, (well if you don't you will now) Including each one of you asshats ( and when I use the term "asshat" it is meant with all do respect and deference to the kind folk who post in the great establishment, as well as those who run this juke joint. They are educated, knowledgeable, tolerant of other viewpoints, and are all around wonderful human beings. Okay So now that all the mutual Bullshit is over, Here is the point...we are all born pre-cancerous. Some peoples just trigger more easily than others.
That is all carry on.
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I get very little sun. I'm very white/pale with many freckles and had red hair. I burn in minutes. I suspect that you spend a fair amount of time outside even during the winter. For most people it doesn't take all that much sun exposure to meet their needs.
@DB
One of my very good friends was a pasty-white Irish lad with the same excuse... He just had to expose himself to sunlight while it was weak in the early spring (like the rest of us outside-dwellers do), and he tanned just like everybody else... Took some fast talking to get him to do it, but he hasn't burned since... Free, outside, and without a shirt all summer. YMMV
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@DB
One of my very good friends was a pasty-white Irish lad with the same excuse... He just had to expose himself to sunlight while it was weak in the early spring (like the rest of us outside-dwellers do), and he tanned just like everybody else... Took some fast talking to get him to do it, but he hasn't burned since... Free, outside, and without a shirt all summer. YMMV
I tan very little. Just turn red if too much exposure... Both my sisters tan easily.