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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: WingNot on December 11, 2017, 03:00:39 am

Title: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: WingNot on December 11, 2017, 03:00:39 am
December 6, 2017

ST. PAUL, Minn. – A federal district court already has ruled that a Minnesota filmmaker may not violate the state's human rights law by refusing to film gay weddings.

Carl and Angel Larsen, who own Telescope Media in St. Cloud, have argued in court that a state law barring discrimination violates their constitutional right to free expression.

"Telescope Media Group exists to glorify God through top quality media production,” Carl Larsen says in a video produced by Alliance Defending Freedom, or ADF. “I want to tell marriage stories. I want to tell stories about the glory of God in marriage."

Larsen and his wife Angel have appealed the ruling against their company, but Minnesota officials argue the case should wait to see what the U.S. Supreme Court decides.

The high court heard arguments Tuesday in a case filed by a gay couple in Colorado who were refused service by a wedding cake baker.

In Alliance Defending Freedom videos, attorney Jeremy Tedesco says both the Colorado baker and the Minnesota videographer have the right to express themselves in their work.

"The Minnesota Human Rights Department has said that state law requires them to create films celebrating same sex marriages if they create films celebrating marriage between a man and a woman,” Tedesco points out. “And that's something that violates Carl and Angel's beliefs.”

The U.S. Department of Justice has sided in the case with Alliance Defending Freedom, which the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated as a hate group.

Minnesota is among 20 states that have filed friend-of-the-court briefs on the other side.

Minnesota Human Rights Commissioner Kevin Lindsey says all those states ban discrimination based on sexual orientation.

"What would stop someone from saying on the basis of my religious beliefs, 'I don't wish to work with this woman' or 'I don't wish to sell to this man because he's of a different religious belief,'” he points out. “It really could lead to an erosion of civil rights for everyone."

Lindsey says he doesn't have any idea what the Supreme Court will do. A decision is not expected until late spring.

http://www.publicnewsservice.org/2017-12-06/social-justice/minnesota-has-stake-in-wedding-cake-case/a60536-1 (http://www.publicnewsservice.org/2017-12-06/social-justice/minnesota-has-stake-in-wedding-cake-case/a60536-1)
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: roamer_1 on December 11, 2017, 03:09:32 am
Before anyone goes looking.. YES, it's been done.

(http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/78214/1261005124/thumb.meatcake.jpg)
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: roamer_1 on December 11, 2017, 03:10:23 am
I think that's gravy frosting...
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: goatprairie on December 11, 2017, 03:21:52 am
If the photographers must do homosexual weddings, they must do every kind of legal wedding...or other ceremony for that matter.   That would include nude ceremonies,  sexual ceremonies, satanic rituals whatever. Must not discriminate.
The courts will have effectively declared that businesses cannot turn down customers for whatever reason as long as whatever is being filmed is legal.
Now what is the definition of fascism again?
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: WingNot on December 11, 2017, 03:25:16 am
Before anyone goes looking.. YES, it's been done.

(http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/78214/1261005124/thumb.meatcake.jpg)

Well that blew my mind.
(http://img.diply.com/article-images/a/a398b4b1-0ece-4d69-9a4d-adee6025a079.gif?impolicy=desktop)
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: roamer_1 on December 11, 2017, 03:32:25 am
Well that blew my mind.
(http://img.diply.com/article-images/a/a398b4b1-0ece-4d69-9a4d-adee6025a079.gif?impolicy=desktop)

IKR? Makes ya kinda wanna, donit?

Wonder what you'd serve with that (gotta be beer)...

And look! an inbuit setup for the ongoing pe-cahn pee-can debate. I really like that.

 :beer:
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 11, 2017, 03:50:30 am
I recommend tan wine for that cake.  Goes with the gravy.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: roamer_1 on December 11, 2017, 03:55:05 am
I recommend tan wine for that cake.  Goes with the gravy.

I dunno... I think a Sam Adams... Because 'Murica.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 11, 2017, 03:59:18 am
I dunno... I think a Sam Adams... Because 'Murica.

Never listen to that cat.  My Fred doesn't know crap from tan wine....
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: thackney on December 11, 2017, 01:23:15 pm
If the photographers must do homosexual weddings, they must do every kind of legal wedding...or other ceremony for that matter.   That would include nude ceremonies,  sexual ceremonies, satanic rituals whatever. Must not discriminate.
The courts will have effectively declared that businesses cannot turn down customers for whatever reason as long as whatever is being filmed is legal.
Now what is the definition of fascism again?

Worse than that.  The Colorado baker lawsuit was over a wedding that was not legal in Colorado at the time.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Polly Ticks on December 11, 2017, 01:31:35 pm
Before anyone goes looking.. YES, it's been done.

(http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/78214/1261005124/thumb.meatcake.jpg)

What is that between the layers? 
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: roamer_1 on December 11, 2017, 02:11:50 pm
What is that between the layers?

I have no idea, but I want one for my birthday.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 11, 2017, 04:07:59 pm
What is that between the layers?

Looks like cheese between the layers of steak.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: WingNot on December 11, 2017, 04:40:23 pm
What is that between the layers?

Clogged arteries, an infarction and visit to a cardiologist or mortician. Not necessarily in that order.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Hoodat on December 11, 2017, 04:58:36 pm
Your move, Jazzhead.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Polly Ticks on December 11, 2017, 05:08:59 pm
Clogged arteries, an infarction and visit to a cardiologist or mortician. Not necessarily in that order.

LOL. I was thinking maybe french fried onions, but you might have a valid point.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: WingNot on December 11, 2017, 05:18:29 pm
Your move, Jazzhead.

I'm shocked the progressive defender of all types of faggoty has not let his rainbow light up this thread.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 11, 2017, 05:41:01 pm
I'm shocked the progressive defender of all types of faggoty has not let his rainbow light up this thread.

He's working on his Temporary Injunction. 
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: WingNot on December 11, 2017, 07:46:54 pm
He's working on his Temporary Injunction.

Well that was down right inconsiderate of me.  I shall chastise him at a later date then.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 11, 2017, 08:06:56 pm
Well that was down right inconsiderate of me.  I shall chastise him at a later date then.

He's pestering the "Doug Jones is Winning!  Yaay!" thread. 
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: Optiguy on December 12, 2017, 03:08:49 am
Worse than that.  The Colorado baker lawsuit was over a wedding that was not legal in Colorado at the time.


A point Alito made quite well when he said a same sex couple asking the state to recognize their relationship would be told no but a baker MUST.
Title: Re: Minnesota Has Stake in Wedding Cake Case
Post by: edpc on December 12, 2017, 03:29:41 am
Minnesota Has Stake In Wedding Cake Case


Fantastic.  Now we have to accommodate vampire weddings, as well?