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Whoopi Goldberg: ‘We Need to Know’ What Guns Americans Own
28 Mar 2023
Whoopi Goldberg told her co-hosts Tuesday on ABC’s “The View” that “we need to know” what guns Americans own.
Goldberg said, “Why are we compromising? You know what I’m tired of? I’m tired of trying to find a way to justify your being able to keep 75 guns in your house. I’m tired of trying to figure out a way to say, listen, we have rules and regulations. The Constitution is very clear. Scalia changed the meaning of what the Constitution says. Scalia changed it.”
She continued, “I have to have a license to drive. It’s not a compromise. We don’t discuss it. You either get a license, or you go to jail. So to me, you want to have 7o or 11 guns. We need to know that. We need to know what you got. Because you are now being painted with the same swab all the people who are killing people left and right with legal guns. We need to know what you got.”
Goldberg added, “I don’t have a tank. I can’t go and buy a tank.”
She concluded, “AR-15s have no use in normal daily life. None. Again, I don’t say give up all your guns. I don’t know that you have to have fifty of them, but maybe you do. But I want to know that you got them. I want to be sure that I’m aware of what’s going on in my periphery. If you’re not willing to do that, then we all have a problem. Telling people put armed guards in schools doesn’t work. Talk about Uvalde if you are not sure how that went down. Talk about what kids are dealing with. These are our kids. They may not be your kids, but they are my kids. They are somebody’s kids. What the hell?”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/03/28/whoopi-goldberg-we-need-to-know-what-guns-americans-own/
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:facepalm2:
Scalia did not change the meaning of the Constitution.
And a comparison to a driver's license is inapposite because you do not have a Constitutional right to drive that "shall not be infringed".
The source of the problem, in a nutshell, Ms. Johnson, is the fact that you and your ilk have been catering to mental illness and facilitating its violent expression for decades now. Stop execerbating the mentally ill, stop "affirming" their right to act out on their mental illness, and start reining in those aspects of mostly left-wing social policy that are encouraging this sort of behavior.
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Sooo...what is in your closet Whoop T F**K?
Or is it you are privileged enough to have private security?
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Whoopie, what you don't know can't hurt you. Trying to find out, might.
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Why do you need to know?
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Why do you need to know?
So she can be aware of what’s going on in her periphery. :shrug:
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[Whoopi] She concluded, “AR-15s have no use in normal daily life. None."
How is that for an ignorant city-dweller statement?
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Not surprising the huge bag of bloviating flatulence can't grasp the difference between a constitutional right and a privilege. Maybe we should demand licensing for huge bags of bloviating flatulence to exercise their first amendment rights?
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How is that for an ignorant city-dweller statement?
Pretty good, for an ignorant city dweller. Right on type.
Of all my firearms, the only one that has potential to be dangerous is the one (just one) in my hands.
As a rule, I'm not handling any most of the time.
It really doesn't matter how many a person possesses.
At most (and I've tried it and it would take a LOT of practice) shooting two pistols at the same time is about as far as you're going to go (unless you have one of those quad or twin mount .50 setups, but those are really rare).
Because the vast majority of firearms are handled one at a time (unlike all that Hollywood stuff of having half a dozen slung every which way, or a pistol in every pocket), if I have four or four hundred, it is no matter for Miz Whoopie to concern herself with.
(AND, unless she's pissed all that money she made away buying things like mansions for Communists, she likely COULD afford a Tank. (Provided she could clear the background check).
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Sorry Whoopie.....
There was the terrible boat accident I had in 1996, and dad gum it, they were lost. :cool:
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Pretty good, for an ignorant city dweller. Right on type.
Of all my firearms, the only one that has potential to be dangerous is the one (just one) in my hands.
As a rule, I'm not handling any most of the time.
It really doesn't matter how many a person possesses.
At most (and I've tried it and it would take a LOT of practice) shooting two pistols at the same time is about as far as you're going to go (unless you have one of those quad or twin mount .50 setups, but those are really rare).
Because the vast majority of firearms are handled one at a time (unlike all that Hollywood stuff of having half a dozen slung every which way, or a pistol in every pocket), if I have four or four hundred, it is no matter for Miz Whoopie to concern herself with.
(AND, unless she's pissed all that money she made away buying things like mansions for Communists, she likely COULD afford a Tank. (Provided she could clear the background check).
And 'AR-15' and 'Assault Rifle', as I am sure you know, are code for anything semi-auto and clip fed... and anything that can be altered to hold more than 8 rounds.
That's dang near everything I own. my .22LR holds more than 8 rounds. my .45ACPs will take a long clip... My Remington 700s are clip capable, and also can take a long clip. Hell, even my 45/70 can be altered to get eight in the tube and one in the chamber (I could be wrong about that, I don't remember exactly... 8 or 9 I think)...
And while you or I know an AR-15 ain't any much different than any semi-auto clip-fed, with that in mind, why would I NEEEED one?
Well I dang near bought one in .243 (IIRC) for a coyote gun.
Anyone who has ever called coyotes in will know, you will often get the whole pack, and you have precious little time to get as many as you can. So naturally a semi-auto clip-fed greatly improves your chances of substantial success.
And you would probably know that after success, you won't get a second chance very easy.
Every gun I own does a job. Or it is important enough to have more than one as reserve.
So in every facet of her statement, she is spewing nothing but ignorance, born of never having her foot off the sidewalk.
It frustrates me.
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Why don't you tell the truth Goldbutt, you want to make it where you (fellow leftist) can easily take guns from good people that you don't like. If you can't do that, you want to advertise for thieves to easily locate places to rob. You want to break so many rational barriers because you hate that folks can defend themselves from the anarchy you want to sweep the nation while you use your money to hire people to keep you safe. Whoopie wants it where normal fly over folks can't arm their families if times get rough, she wants Urban thugs to have free reign. You can bet, take away her bodyguard and you can bet she would find a way to own a gun (and I bet she already hypocritically does, just like that anti-gun lady did a week or so ago when she shot at kids in her pool).
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I remember a video interview of Whoopie taken way over 10 years ago that was done in her rural farm house in,I THINK,Pa.
What I found most interesting was the 12 guage pump shotgun that could be seen propped up in a kitchen corner behind her.
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I remember a video interview of Whoopie taken way over 10 years ago that was done in her rural farm house in,I THINK,Pa.
What I found most interesting was the 12 guage pump shotgun that could be seen propped up in a kitchen corner behind her.
Nice to know.
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How is that for an ignorant city-dweller statement?
@roamer_1
"She concluded, “AR-15s have no use in normal daily life." Whoopie
Well,they don't. A shotgun would be a better choice.
None of which means that AR's should be banned or require ANY sort of special permit.
If someone misuses their AR,take them to court,and if they are found guilty of murder or attemped murder,lock their asses up.
This ain't real complex. It is so simple that even someone like Whoopie should be able to understand it.
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Sooo...what is in your closet Whoop T F**K?
@bigheadfred
According to one video interview of her that I have seen,at least one 12 gauge pump shotgun,but that was years,maybe decades ago,so who knows what she has now?
Or is it you are privileged enough to have private security?
She is even privileged enough it is ok for HER to have guns.
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I remember a video interview of Whoopie taken way over 10 years ago that was done in her rural farm house in,I THINK,Pa.
What I found most interesting was the 12 guage pump shotgun that could be seen propped up in a kitchen corner behind her.
Think that was an episode of Bagdad Cafe (90s series).
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@roamer_1
"She concluded, “AR-15s have no use in normal daily life." Whoopie
Well,they don't. A shotgun would be a better choice.
None of which means that AR's should be banned or require ANY sort of special permit.
If someone misuses their AR,take them to court,and if they are found guilty of murder or attemped murder,lock their asses up.
This ain't real complex. It is so simple that even someone like Whoopie should be able to understand it.
@sneakypete
In my example above, calling in coyotes, a shotgun won't do sh*t. you won't get them close enough to use it. and even if you do, even if you are a badass, you likely wouldn't get more than two or three, and will have lost the chance, because they won't come a'runnin the next time.
No, a semi-auto clip-fed rifle of some caliber bigger than a .22 is called for, which is why I was looking at an AR in .243.
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@sneakypete
In my example above, calling in coyotes, a shotgun won't do sh*t. you won't get them close enough to use it.
@roamer_1
I have no doubt you are right about this,but you might be surprised by the small number of people that call coyotes into range so they can shoot them.
Not that it matters because NONE of us should EVER be compelled by ANY government agency to "justify" why we want to own/possess ANY firearm,with the exception of convicted felons. Even then,it's kind of a BS thing because IF the crime/crimes they committed were so serious they would need permission to buy/own/possess a firearm,WTH are they being let out of jail?
I PERSONALLY know more than a few people who possess oddball/obsolete firearms they have never shot,or ever intend on shooting. WTH would these people,who have NO known criminal records be required to justify their owndership of said firearms?
I honestly don't know how many guns I have because I have never counted them,and the total number doesn't matter,anyhow. What matters is I have owned a firearm for almost 70 years now,and have never shot or even pointed any of them at anyone because a situation where this would be required never happened,and because I have ZERO interest in shooting anyone or ANY living creature that is not a threat to me or mine.
The part in bold above is in bold BECAUSE it is,or should be,such an obvious basic truth about probably 99 percent of the people who own/possess firearms. If it wasn't,we would be reading about mass shootings all over the country every day.
EVERYBODY that ALL of us know has knives in their homes,and knives are just as capable of killing people as a gun,and given how much longer people have been making and carrying knives,going back to the cave men and their flint knives,how come there is no huge public outcry for knife control? Especially since more people in history have been killed with knives than has ever been killed by firearms.
The answer is that neither guns nor knives are dangerous unless they are in the possession of dangerous people who want to use them for criminal purposes.
Why shouldn't the same standard apply to firearms?
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@roamer_1
I have no doubt you are right about this,but you might be surprised by the small number of people that call coyotes into range so they can shoot them.
@sneakypete
Maybe not so many people, but over a vast amount of geography in Rural America, it is a common thing. And not only for livestock's sake... If yotes get out of hand you'll see native animals disappearing at a frightening rate. They suck eggs too, so even ducks and upland birds...
Controlling varmints is a big deal. And that's without feral pigs, dogs and cats...
And that's without my own more special case, where we still have griz, and black bear and wolves, and cougars, and wolverines along with the regular varmints.
You'd have to be an idiot to walk these woods without some serious heat.
I'll tell you what... you'd be damn happy to be walking around with a big bore semi rifle or semi shotgun in griz country.
And all that WITHOUT even approaching Hoomin varmints.
Not that it matters because NONE of us should EVER be compelled by ANY government agency to "justify" why we want to own/possess ANY firearm,with the exception of convicted felons. Even then,it's kind of a BS thing because IF the crime/crimes they committed were so serious they would need permission to buy/own/possess a firearm,WTH are they being let out of jail?
I have said much the same for a long time. I have several (bordering on many) friends who are good ol boys that kicked their heels a little too high in their yoot (there but for the grace of God go I) and wound up with a criminal felony. And for a dumb mistake in their past that may be nothing more than a bar fight that went too far, they can't have a firearm, can't protect themselves and their family, can't hunt but by bow, and can't live by subsistence, which is still a big thing out here (living off the woods)
It ain't right. Maybe it should require some hoops to jump through... Maybe a judge has to sign off. But a guy should not be paying his whole life for a crime where he long ago paid his dues, and has kept his nose clean.
I PERSONALLY know more than a few people who possess oddball/obsolete firearms they have never shot,or ever intend on shooting. WTH would these people,who have NO known criminal records be required to justify their owndership of said firearms?
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Agreed. I also have no problem with folks building their own. And I know several that do - masters of that craft. I could do that too... I may not have the knack, but I am a competent machinist. Though I ain't native to it with guns... They are a tool to me and nothing more.
I honestly don't know how many guns I have because I have never counted them,and the total number doesn't matter,anyhow. What matters is I have owned a firearm for almost 70 years now,and have never shot or even pointed any of them at anyone because a situation where this would be required never happened,and because I have ZERO interest in shooting anyone or ANY living creature that is not a threat to me or mine.
I dunno either right off.
I ain't got many kinds. I focused on repetition of type. For instance, my reach-out-and-touch-someone gear is all Rem model 700 and I carry 7mm mag and 300 win mag, for different purposes.... And I have 3 caches storing each. Those caches have a replication of all the stuff I use. And not that I am a weirdo - I have just been caught out in the sticks far enough that making for a cache would be easier than getting back to town. And that works well for if SHTF too, anyway.
The part in bold above is in bold BECAUSE it is,or should be,such an obvious basic truth about probably 99 percent of the people who own/possess firearms. If it wasn't,we would be reading about mass shootings all over the country every day.
Same, though I dare say I get crossed with varmints more than you have. But generally I am live and let live for that which ain't a trouble, unless for culling to ease the land.
Except gophers. And coyotes. And maybe coons and skunks.
EVERYBODY that ALL of us know has knives in their homes,and knives are just as capable of killing people as a gun,and given how much longer people have been making and carrying knives,going back to the cave men and their flint knives,how come there is no huge public outcry for knife control? Especially since more people in history have been killed with knives than has ever been killed by firearms.
The answer is that neither guns nor knives are dangerous unless they are in the possession of dangerous people who want to use them for criminal purposes.
Why shouldn't the same standard apply to firearms?
That's right. Either way, they are nothing but tools. And I would have the same thing to say about knives. I carry a big ol bowie and a camp knife pretty well wherever I go - count a multi-tool, a big folding blade, and a wicked little penknife (sliver gitter)... all in my EDC, not to mention what is in my gobag. Off the top of my head, in full woods mode, I probably have 10 knives on me of one kind or another and an axe and hatchet.. And NONE of it is a threat or designed to be a threat unless driven to it. Guns are the same thing.
:beer:
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@sneakypete
I have said much the same for a long time. I have several (bordering on many) friends who are good ol boys that kicked their heels a little too high in their yoot (there but for the grace of God go I) and wound up with a criminal felony. And for a dumb mistake in their past that may be nothing more than a bar fight that went too far, they can't have a firearm, can't protect themselves and their family, can't hunt but by bow, and can't live by subsistence, which is still a big thing out here (living off the woods)
It ain't right. Maybe it should require some hoops to jump through... Maybe a judge has to sign off. But a guy should not be paying his whole life for a crime where he long ago paid his dues, and has kept his nose clean.
@roamer_1
I couldn't agree more. As you implied,"There I go,but for the grace of whatever." I suspect it is a rare adult male that hasn't stepped "over a legal line" a time or two in his youth,but was lucky enough to not have been caught,or in many cases,cut a break by a local sheriff or deputy that understands what it's like to be young and stupid.
I am clearly NOT talking about violent felonies,here,although this WOULD apply to SOME violent felonies,depending on how the LEO and/or the judge looked at it.
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I ain't got many kinds. I focused on repetition of type. For instance, my reach-out-and-touch-someone gear is all Rem model 700 and I carry 7mm mag and 300 win mag, for different purposes.... And I have 3 caches storing each. Those caches have a replication of all the stuff I use. And not that I am a weirdo - I have just been caught out in the sticks far enough that making for a cache would be easier than getting back to town. And that works well for if SHTF too, anyway.
Can't argue with any of that.
Same, though I dare say I get crossed with varmints more than you have. But generally I am live and let live for that which ain't a trouble, unless for culling to ease the land.
Except gophers. And coyotes. And maybe coons and skunks.
The only animals I have personally put down since the mid-60's has been a couple of rabid racoons. Which was a mercy killing more than anything else. I really am a "live and let live guy" as long as I am not seriously threatened.
That's right. Either way, they are nothing but tools.
True.
And I would have the same thing to say about knives.
I have carried a pocket knife ever since I was maybe 10 years old. Maybe even younger. I don't even consider them a weapon,just another tool that CAN,if pushed and desperate,be used as a weapon. If a cop asked me "Do you have any weapons on you?",I would honestly say "No" if all I had was a pocket knife. Then again,my pocket knives tend to run more towards "3 blade folders" than Buck knives.
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The only animals I have personally put down since the mid-60's has been a couple of rabid racoons. Which was a mercy killing more than anything else. I really am a "live and let live guy" as long as I am not seriously threatened.
@sneakypete
So you don't have chickens then...
:laugh:
Gophers because of horses. I have had to put horses down for stepping in a gopher hole. Yotes more generally. They are probably the top level predator affecting most ranches. At least down here in the valley. Certainly the most prolific. So they are a constant pressure.
BUT, I leave em be if they don't become a problem. Same philosophy as you, but with critters to protect... Which is a live-wire draw, so I needfully have more action.
I am all gimped up, but last year, I took at least three coons, and I dunno how many skunks by gun or trap trying to get at the coop. That's the most of it anymore.
Then again,my pocket knives tend to run more towards "3 blade folders" than Buck knives.
I have carried a penknife and a Schrade/Uncle Henry Papa Bear, which is about a 4" folding knife since Hector was a pup. That schrade is the working knife. It's the one that gets the most general use, and the one I have to sharpen the most, maybe by double or more. It gets beat up bad, and the camp knife takes quite a bit of hit. Probably second most sharpened. The bowie gets used, but I try pretty hard to leave that edge sharp.
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Whoopi, criminals aren't going to comply with your wishes and dictates on any level.
You just want the guns of law abiding citizens who oppose your jackboot political beliefs.
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@sneakypete
So you don't have chickens then...
:laugh:
@roamer_1
No,and you couldn't give me any,either.
Gophers because of horses. I have had to put horses down for stepping in a gopher hole. Yotes more generally. They are probably the top level predator affecting most ranches. At least down here in the valley. Certainly the most prolific. So they are a constant pressure.
It was claimed that we had a few coyotes around here,but I never saw one. The latest on that is they have all been killed off or moved on to somewhere with a better food supply.
BUT, I leave em be if they don't become a problem. Same philosophy as you, but with critters to protect... Which is a live-wire draw, so I needfully have more action.
Well,anything I catch trying to kill one of my housecats has a death wish,be it animal or what passes for a human these days,but since I think most of them would now be insulted if I opened a door and tried to get them to go outside,it doesn't seem likely that is going to happen.
I am all gimped up, but last year, I took at least three coons, and I dunno how many skunks by gun or trap trying to get at the coop. That's the most of it anymore.
"Golden years",my big red ass!
I have carried a penknife and a Schrade/Uncle Henry.
The knives of my childhood.
Sad to say,I use razor knives now.
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Goldberg added, “I don’t have a tank. I can’t go and buy a tank.”
Is this true? Does some law prevent one from buying a tank?
Oh, Whoopie? I own no guns. All lost in an unfortunate boating accident that occurred around Jan. 20, 2021.
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Is this true? Does some law prevent one from buying a tank?
Oh, Whoopie? I own no guns. All lost in an unfortunate boating accident that occurred around Jan. 20, 2021.
@mountaineer
Nope!
You would need a special permit from the BATF if you wanted to own a tank that is complete with the cannon and machine guns,but if you can afford to buy and have a tank shipped to you,you can certainly afford to buy those extras at the same time.
Hell of a lot of money to spend on something you have no actual use for,though. You can buy/have build wooden "dummy" guns and end up with the same look while saving a TON of money. AFAIK,that,or having the original cannon and MG breeches and bores welded up so they are not functional is what I suspect most people do because,after all,how often in life does the average American citizen really NEED or USE a freaking cannon or a belt-fed machine gun?
BTW,the typical tank had two machine guns. One 30 cal in the base,and a 50 cal mounted on the turret. We are talking some serious money would have to be spent to put it all in firing condition.
Also,AFAIK,almost every collector that owns one spends extra money to buy "road treads" for the roller wheels so they can legally drive them on the roads. The original steel treads would tear up the highway.
BTW,I am referencing FEDERAL Laws here,not state laws. For all I know,it may be illegal for a private individual to own ANY of that stuff in some states.
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@mountaineer
Nope!
You would need a special permit from the BATF if you wanted to own a tank that is complete with the cannon and machine guns,but if you can afford to buy and have a tank shipped to you,you can certainly afford to buy those extras at the same time.
Hell of a lot of money to spend on something you have no actual use for,though. You can buy/have build wooden "dummy" guns and end up with the same look while saving a TON of money. AFAIK,that,or having the original cannon and MG breeches and bores welded up so they are not functional is what I suspect most people do because,after all,how often in life does the average American citizen really NEED or USE a freaking cannon or a belt-fed machine gun?
BTW,the typical tank had two machine guns. One 30 cal in the base,and a 50 cal mounted on the turret. We are talking some serious money would have to be spent to put it all in firing condition.
Also,AFAIK,almost every collector that owns one spends extra money to buy "road treads" for the roller wheels so they can legally drive them on the roads. The original steel treads would tear up the highway.
BTW,I am referencing FEDERAL Laws here,not state laws. For all I know,it may be illegal for a private individual to own ANY of that stuff in some states.
Road weight limits would probably cause more problems than anything else.
I'd go for an armored car, though... I remember when the British Ferrets were selling cheap.
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Naah, I can't afford the fuel for a tank nor an armored car. I'll stick with my Chevy truck.
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Hey Whoop-de-do, what do you think about persons of color legally owning guns and defending themselves with them? Do they have no rights?
Gun-Toting Texas Grandma Pumps Scumbag Armed Robber Full Of Lead During Food Truck Stickup
by Joe Kinsey
March 30, 2023, 10:50 am updated March 30, 2023, 10:57 am
Outkick (https://www.outkick.com/gun-toting-texas-grandma-pumps-scumbag-armed-robber-full-of-lead-during-food-truck-stickup/)
A 23-year-old scumbag robber picked the wrong food truck to rob Tuesday when he was shot and killed by a grandma who was legally carrying and ready to fight back.
Keshondra Turner, 53, was just trying to sling some good food Tuesday afternoon when the would-be robber pulled up in his truck and asked what she was serving for lunch. After being shown the day’s selection, the scumbag pulled a gun on her and demanded her cash, which was estimated to be somewhere around $40.
According to Houston police, Turner closed her food truck window, but the low-life re-opened the window, stuck a gun in and pointed it at the grandmother and tried to fire a shot, but the gun jammed.
That’s when Turner pulled her own licensed firearm and started blasting. The suspect made it approximately 50 feet away from the food truck where he collapsed and was declared dead at the scene. ...
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Hey Whoop-de-do, what do you think about persons of color legally owning guns and defending themselves with them? Do they have no rights?(https://www.outkick.com/wp-content/uploads/Texas-Food-Truck-Grandma-kills-robber.jpg)
Whoopi probably thinks grandma should be prosecuted for murder because she shot the piece of excrement after his gun jammed and he was no longer a threat(just trying to get in the bloviating sack of flatulence's head).