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#TrumpShutdown becomes top worldwide trending topic on Twitter
by Daniel Chaitin | Jan 20, 2018, 1:15 AM
A hashtag pinning blame for the partial government shutdown on President Trump became the top worldwide trending topic on Twitter as the clock struck midnight at the end of a long Friday on Capitol Hill.
Since one hour before might #TrumpShutdown, which had become a rallying cry for Democrats opposing the short-term spending measure supported by the Republican leadership and the White House, was number one.
more
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumpshutdown-becomes-top-worldwide-trending-topic-on-twitter/article/2646554 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumpshutdown-becomes-top-worldwide-trending-topic-on-twitter/article/2646554)
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Shutdown showdown: White House says it won’t negotiate with Senate Dems
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/20/shutdown-showdown-white-house-says-it-wont-negotia/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/20/shutdown-showdown-white-house-says-it-wont-negotia/)
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"Sanders says, “Senate Democrats own the Schumer Shutdown,†adding, “This is the behavior of obstructionist losers, not legislators.â€
Do whatever you have to do, Pubbies.
And I DO appreciate Ms Sanders telling the whole country, the Plain, Unvarnished Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth!
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Saturday, January 20, 2018
Closed For Cleanup and Repairs
... As we once again witnessed the triumph of party over country, the finger pointing will begin. Because the Democrats essentially got everything they once demanded in a spending bill they threw in the “clean DACA†towards the end of debate in order to have a noble reason to refuse to sign on. So we can’t have a functioning government budget because… Dreamers! Virtue signaling not withstanding, the ball’s really in your court Chucky.
Those of us who think that granting amnesty for 3.6 million (and counting) “Dreamers†– no matter the circumstances of their arrival – is a fool’s game will continue to be called racists. So be it.
But wait – what’s this!?! The media isn’t entirely embracing the Dem’s narrative?
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Et tu, NYT?
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Read the rest at Michelle Obama's Mirror (http://www.michellesmirror.com/2018/01/closed-for-cleanup-and-repairs.html#.WmNTKnlG3IW)
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Geraldo just said that he is worried about the Schumer Shutdown because he is afraid that it is going to bring ire on the so called 'dreamers' who will be blamed for Americans not getting paid.
He said this may do more harm to dreamers than it will help their cause.
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I've stocked up on water and MRE's. I may be able to survive.
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Geraldo just said that he is worried about the Schumer Shutdown because he is afraid that it is going to bring ire on the so called 'dreamers' who will be blamed for Americans not getting paid.
He said this may do more harm to dreamers than it will help their cause.
That's a shame.
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Donald J. Trumpâ€ï€²Verified accountï‚™
@realDonaldTrump
For those asking, the Republicans only have 51 votes in the Senate, and they need 60. That is why we need to win more Republicans in 2018 Election! We can then be even tougher on Crime (and Border), and even better to our Military & Veterans!
3:44 AM - 20 Jan 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/954680914998648833?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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I've stocked up on water and MRE's. I may be able to survive.
:beer:
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Donald J. Trumpâ€ï€²Verified accountï‚™
@realDonaldTrump
Democrats are holding our Military hostage over their desire to have unchecked illegal immigration. Can’t let that happen!
6:27 AM - 20 Jan 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/954722155463430145?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Just last May, in a tweet, Trump thought we needed..... 'a good shutdown in September to fix mess!'
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Former Clinton Chief Strategist Mark Penn says:
We all know this is just a political stunt. We all know we will get our government back. If you have to wait for your paycheck so what? All those paychecks will be made up anyway.
Obviously this is a guy who have never lived hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck. Even a week delay will cause some people and children to go hungry. If they do this thing for real, for a couple of months or so, that will be devastating for a lot of people. Losing your paycheck is no joke for most people, even if they will be 'caught up' eventually. Rent and food and electricity is not a joke.
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Rent and food and electricity is not a joke.
They are to the millionaires in Congress, who couldn't care less about the folks in flyover country.
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What is this "Release the Memo" comment I am seeing in some comments in other sites? Can someone tag me with a reference?
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Government Shutdown: What's Closed, Who Is Affected?
WASHINGTON (AP) — The federal government shutdown only partially curbs operations. But the longer the shutdown continues, the more likely its impact will be felt.
U.S. troops will stay at their posts and mail will get delivered, but almost half of the 2 million civilian federal workers will be barred from doing their jobs if the shutdown extends into Monday.
How key parts of the federal government would be affected by a shutdown:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wont-done-during-government-shutdown-180128618--politics.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/wont-done-during-government-shutdown-180128618--politics.html)
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What is this "Release the Memo" comment I am seeing in some comments in other sites? Can someone tag me with a reference?
House Intelligence memo on FISA. Not related to the shutdown, but of interest to the people, according to some who've seen it.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-russia-republican-memo-20180119-story,amp.html (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-russia-republican-memo-20180119-story,amp.html)
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What is this "Release the Memo" comment I am seeing in some comments in other sites? Can someone tag me with a reference?
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,299981.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,299981.0.html)
there are more threads in News
what's this about other sites...hmmmm
@bolobaby
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What is this "Release the Memo" comment I am seeing in some comments in other sites? Can someone tag me with a reference?
It's what Schmukie is trying to hide with the shutdown.
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VA Secretary Shulkin says veterans benefits will not be affected. The VA has a preapproved allocation that is already in their purse. Enough to last for two years.
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It's what Schmukie is trying to hide with the shutdown.
And again, That comment deserves a good Cigar.
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Half of federal government workers could be canned and there would be no appreciable change to our lives. Who would miss paper-pushers and report writers who enforce unconstitutional regulations that take away freedoms and who produce nothing for inflated salaries? :shrug:
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VA Secretary Shulkin says veterans benefits will not be affected. The VA has a preapproved allocation that is already in their purse. Enough to last for two years.
Retired pay?....I bet the same as active duty
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#TrumpShutdown becomes top worldwide trending topic on Twitter
by Daniel Chaitin | Jan 20, 2018, 1:15 AM
A hashtag pinning blame for the partial government shutdown on President Trump became the top worldwide trending topic on Twitter as the clock struck midnight at the end of a long Friday on Capitol Hill.
Since one hour before might #TrumpShutdown, which had become a rallying cry for Democrats opposing the short-term spending measure supported by the Republican leadership and the White House, was number one.
more
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumpshutdown-becomes-top-worldwide-trending-topic-on-twitter/article/2646554 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trumpshutdown-becomes-top-worldwide-trending-topic-on-twitter/article/2646554)
I have not seen this little tidbit posted. But, I thought it was all about the children.
https://www.schumershutdown.com (https://www.schumershutdown.com)
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I have not seen this little tidbit posted. But, I thought it was all about the children.
https://www.schumershutdown.com (https://www.schumershutdown.com)
Bots can make anything trend. I'm less and less impressed with social media outlets like Twitter and Facebook, given what we've learned about content blocking and shadow banning.
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What is this "Release the Memo" comment I am seeing in some comments in other sites? Can someone tag me with a reference?
@bolobaby
Not much! Just a bunch of criminals occupying the highest offices in the FBI and misusing their positions to mess with an election is all!
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,299981.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,299981.0.html)
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I have not seen this little tidbit posted. But, I thought it was all about the children.
https://www.schumershutdown.com (https://www.schumershutdown.com)
When have Democrats ever let Chaos stand in the way of their stealing elections?
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It's what Schmukie is trying to hide with the shutdown.
Agreed. Except that I call him Chunkie.
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Bots can make anything trend. I'm less and less impressed with social media outlets like Twitter and Facebook, given what we've learned about content blocking and shadow banning.
I don't like social media because they are populated by kooks.
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Agreed. Except that I call him Chunkie.
Good ... but a little too benign. :laugh:
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When have Democrats ever let Chaos stand in the way of their stealing elections?
Chaos is their cover.
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When have Democrats ever let Chaos stand in the way of their stealing elections?
That is what this "shutdown" was all about: Chaos.
It is a little dirty commie trick.
The DACA deal was tagged to the Budget. The DACA bill was not even supposed to have come up until March.
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Agreed. Except that I call him Chunkie.
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Bots can make anything trend. I'm less and less impressed with social media outlets like Twitter and Facebook, given what we've learned about content blocking and shadow banning.
Twitter and Facebook made a hard left turn after the inauguration of President Trump. Well, Facebook, has always been liberal. It is a great place to post family photos, but that is about it.
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That is what this "shutdown" was all about: Chaos.
It is a little dirty commie trick.
The DACA deal was tagged to the Budget. The DACA bill was not even supposed to have come up until March.
I'll wager the democrats are making a big mistake here - they're going off of polls that indicate people want 'children brought here through no fault of their own' helped, but because of how the democrats have conditioned the public to think about shutdowns in the past voters will not connect current democrat actions with any noble cause. In fact they'll do the opposite.
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Every time the government shuts down it effects my life in no way shape or form. It's almost like it's almost unnecessary or something.
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Every time the government shuts down it effects my life in no way shape or form. It's almost like it's almost unnecessary or something.
And, as Levin noted last night: just try to shut the government down. Couldn't if we wanted to.
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I'll wager the democrats are making a big mistake here - they're going off of polls that indicate people want 'children brought here through no fault of their own' helped, but because of how the democrats have conditioned the public to think about shutdowns in the past voters will not connect current democrat actions with any noble cause. In fact they'll do the opposite.
Well that's right. Geraldo said something similar this morning. This is going to hurt DACA, not help it. Because all those people who are going to get furloughed; all those people who are going to lose paychecks and benefits, are going to say TO HELL with DACA!
DACA cost me my job and now you expect me to support it? Are you insane? DACA can kiss my ass!
Nobody has ever accused a Liberal of being smart. They are consistently the Party of unintended consequences after all. But this was a very stupid move.
The reality of all this is, the Democrats really couldn't care less about some stupid DACA. The real goal of all this was to harass Trump, as they always do, on his one year anniversary. DACA is not the real issue. The issue is always to hector and harass Trump in any way they can. Nothing else matters to them in terms of the economy or national security or anything else. They don't care.
It is always about RESIST!
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-2018-01-19-senate-vote-deal-latest-live-updates (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-2018-01-19-senate-vote-deal-latest-live-updates)
Look at all the "good" folks 'splaining themselves.
I can't wait until the State of the Union Address. Now that will be very interesting, indeed.
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Shutdown showdown: White House says it won’t negotiate with Senate Dems
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/20/shutdown-showdown-white-house-says-it-wont-negotia/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/20/shutdown-showdown-white-house-says-it-wont-negotia/)
I don't want him to negotiate with the dems. Their idea of negotiation is you give me stuff and I give you nothing.
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Just last May, in a tweet, Trump thought we needed..... 'a good shutdown in September to fix mess!'
Yeah, Schumer remembers that also. It's on a placard behind him as he addresses everyone about the 'Trump Shutdown.'
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VA Secretary Shulkin says veterans benefits will not be affected. The VA has a preapproved allocation that is already in their purse. Enough to last for two years.
That's good to know. Schumer has been blathering for ages about the Trump shutdown without once mentioning the issues that were the sticking point.
And he will never mention them because, outside of illegals and a few nuts, nobody cares deeply about DACA and most people don't like illegal immigration.
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Chuckie and the Rats are speechifying on the floor now. I suspect they'll only back down if the polls tell them they are getting the blame for it. That is in no way certain when the MSM is willing to cover for them (both in their reporting and in their polling), so we have to hope the people in flyover land are smarter than that.
I have no reason to be optimistic on that.
Holding the country hostage to force a DACA bill is what's going on, and I just don't know how the majority of the country is going to see it. GOP had better do an above-average job of selling their position on this.
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Half of federal government workers could be canned and there would be no appreciable change to our lives. Who would miss paper-pushers and report writers who enforce unconstitutional regulations that take away freedoms and who produce nothing for inflated salaries? :shrug:
You are right.
Some of the agencies are necessary and do good work. But most are not. I worked for the Social Security Administration and it was the most austerely run and efficient place I've ever worked.
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Chuckie and the Rats are speechifying on the floor now. I suspect they'll only back down if the polls tell them they are getting the blame for it. That is in no way certain when the MSM is willing to cover for them (both in their reporting and in their polling), so we have to hope the people in flyover land are smarter than that.
I have no reason to be optimistic on that.
Holding the country hostage to force a DACA bill is what's going on, and I just don't know how the majority of the country is going to see it. GOP had better do an above-average job of selling their position on this.
@Cyber Liberty
Have you seen this?
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,300247.msg1580140.html#msg1580140 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,300247.msg1580140.html#msg1580140)
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@bolobaby
Not much! Just a bunch of criminals occupying the highest offices in the FBI and misusing their positions to mess with an election is all!
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,299981.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,299981.0.html)
@bolobaby Did you just wake up from a 24 hour sleep. This is a thread about government shutdown and there have already been several threads about The Memo.
Why did you come on this thread to ask about The Memo?
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Half of federal government workers could be canned and there would be no appreciable change to our lives. Who would miss paper-pushers and report writers who enforce unconstitutional regulations that take away freedoms and who produce nothing for inflated salaries? :shrug:
:amen: Only effect would be less strain on the internet and some porn sites possibly shutting down.
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Twitter and Facebook made a hard left turn after the inauguration of President Trump. Well, Facebook, has always been liberal. It is a great place to post family photos, but that is about it.
There is zero point in whining about Twitter or Facebook. Both are now part of our culture and can be used for good or bad.
I wish Facebook was still more about family photos but it's become 75% political on my page and most of it is strictly conservative and pro-Trump.
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This is Schumer saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of what he is saying today. It is like Schumer is taking the Republican position in 2013 in this bizzaro world interview. Democrats are experts at lying and duplicity. They have no shame or honor at all. Listen to this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuCuuYUQFXM
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@Cyber Liberty
Have you seen this?
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,300247.msg1580140.html#msg1580140 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,300247.msg1580140.html#msg1580140)
No, I had not, it's encouraging. I wonder what the NYT's game is here? And can Schumer & Company turn this around with the Sunday shows? They're going over and over with it on the Floor right now, I'm not sure what sort of Order is allowing that. Are they continuing debate to break the filibuster?
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No, I had not, it's encouraging. I wonder what the NYT's game is here? And can Schumer & Company turn this around with the Sunday shows? They're going over and over with it on the Floor right now, I'm not sure what sort of Order is allowing that. Are they continuing debate to break the filibuster?
I haven't paid any attention at all to what is going on there today but the link I posted for you made me say
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Schumer talking now..what a shithole...I bet Trump is getting madder and madder...he needs to call a presser too!
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Schumer talking now..what a shithole...I bet Trump is getting madder and madder...he needs to call a presser too!
Schumer was talking when we left for a walk. When we got back he was still talking, but he's shifted gears a little. Now, he's saying that Trump keeps changing his mind. They reach an agreement and then Trump moves the goal posts.
One thing is obvious. He will never talk specifics and admit what is really holding this deal hostage.
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Schumer was talking when we left for a walk. When we got back he was still talking, but he's shifted gears a little. Now, he's saying that Trump keeps changing his mind. They reach an agreement and then Trump moves the goal posts.
One thing is obvious. He will never talk specifics and admit what is really holding this deal hostage.
Until the ink dries, chuck, everything’s negotiable. You just finding that out? How long did you say you been a democrat?
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Schumer talking now..what a shithole...I bet Trump is getting madder and madder...he needs to call a presser too!
I saw that. He said, "I went to Trump on my knees crying, and I begged him Please! Please! don't do a shutdown Mr. President. I'll do anything! I'll give you anything you want! I'm begging you! Please don't shut down the government Mr. Trump! Whatever you want, we will do it!"
It was quite disgusting. Really pathetic. He could end the shutdown today, in an hour, if he wanted to. But somehow Trump did it? Really?
That is alternate reality stuff. And yet we all know the morons on the Left will swallow every word. What a crazy world. Wasn't it Schumer who said if you don't give us DACA, "WE" (<- meaning him) will shutdown the government? That's the way I remember it.
But NO! Trump did it, by not caving to the 'demands' of the Democrats. What does immigration have to do with the budget? Nothing of course. It was pure extortion. And Trump called their bluff.
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One day I thought the Republicans were going along with 800,000 and limiting chain migration and establishing criteria for who we would admit based on merit.
Next thing it is 3.6 million, with chain migration intact, with Lindsey, Flake running amuck.
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This Schumer Shutdown is a real drag so far. My mail was 10 minutes late today.
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What does immigration have to do with the budget? Nothing of course. It was pure extortion.
Actually, it has plenty to do with the budget, if your negotiation strategy includes concessions on DACA in exchange for border wall funding guarantees.
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Dan Bongino has become my favorite person on twitter. His podcast is great too.
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One day I thought the Republicans were going along with 800,000 and limiting chain migration and establishing criteria for who we would admit based on merit.
Next thing it is 3.6 million, with chain migration intact, with Lindsey, Flake running amuck.
Those were the goalposts that were moving. I had to laugh out loud when I heard Chuckie whining about "moving goalposts." Yeah, they were moving alright.
Graham's just being the double-dealing Graham he's been since he was in the House, and Flake's just determined to fight Trump every step of the way as he serves out his lame-duck term.
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Actually, it has plenty to do with the budget, if your negotiation strategy includes concessions on DACA in exchange for border wall funding guarantees.
But this budget does not include border wall funding. It is a “clean†budget with all of the concessions the Dems wanted excepting the DACA concession they threw in at the last minute. The only thing off-topic is the CHIP funding. Republicans tried to do clean CHIP funding bills twice last year (Nov and Dec), but Democrat douchenozzles in the Senate blocked both. So it is in this bill because several states are about to run out of CHIP money.
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Had the senate proceedings on until Jeff Flake started running his mouth. Had to turn it off.
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I gagged a little when 'crying Schumer' referred to the dreamers as 'children'. This is a lie.
"I will never do anything to hurt these children."
These so called dreamers are all ages, not children. They are from infants to 65 or more. There is no age requirement, or any requirement at all really, to be classified by the Left as a 'dreamer'. Most of them are adults. And nobody knows when or how they crossed the boarder. They could be 50 and could have crossed the border yesterday (through no fault of their own, of course). Nobody knows and nobody cares.
DACA is a scam the Democrats are using to import their own voters. If most Americans don't want to vote for them, then they'll just import new voter population who will. Who needs Americans anyway when the Mexicans are so much more 'holy' than them? They all have jobs and go to Church every Sunday and work hard and pay double taxes to the government.. They're all in college or the military.
Illegals are just simply the best people in the world. They're much better than Americans!
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This Schumer Shutdown is a real drag so far. My mail was 10 minutes late today.
Well, I got my mail on time, but it was all junk. Can I blame that on the shutdown? LOL
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But this budget does not include border wall funding. It is a “clean†budget with all of the concessions the Dems wanted excepting the DACA concession they threw in at the last minute. The only thing off-topic is the CHIP funding. Republicans tried to do clean CHIP funding bills twice last year (Nov and Dec), but Democrat douchenozzles in the Senate blocked both.
No, it didn't include border wall funding. However, you had a candidate who campaigned on rescinding DACA immediately. Instead, he did nothing until September, then extended it for 6 months and made it part of the negotiations in future legislation.
This amnesty program has been around since July 2012. If there had been any real interest in a Congressional fix, it would have been signed by Obama or presented to Trump by now.
Allowing it to continue and opening the door to negotiations on it invited obvious trouble. Why give them that option? It's completely unnecessary.
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I gagged a little when 'crying Schumer' referred to the dreamers as 'children'. This is a lie.
"I will never do anything to hurt these children."
These so called dreamers are all ages, not children. They are from infants to 65 or more. There is no age requirement, or any requirement at all really, to be classified by the Left as a 'dreamer'. Most of them are adults. And nobody knows when or how they crossed the boarder. They could be 50 and could have crossed the border yesterday (through no fault of their own, of course). Nobody knows and nobody cares.
DACA is a scam the Democrats are using to import their own voters. If most Americans don't want to vote for them, then they'll just import new voter population who will. Who needs Americans anyway when the Mexicans are so much more 'holy' than them? They all have jobs and go to Church every Sunday and work hard and pay double taxes to the government.. They're all in college or the military.
Illegals are just simply the best people in the world. They're much better than Americans!
Absolutely true. 100%
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What The Shutdown Tells Us About Modern Democrats
Minority, majority, process, or norms, it doesn’t really matter. Democrats believe they should always be in control.
By David Harsanyi
January 19, 2018
Democrats, it seems, may precipitate a government shutdown this week. They’re able to do this because, despite their own best efforts, in the United States, the minority party has a genuine ability to participate in governing the nation. It’s one of our system’s authentic strengths.
Then again, this episode — and many others over the past nine years — reveal something else about the modern Democratic Party: Minority or majority, it doesn’t really matter to them. Process and norms? Largely irrelevant. Not only do they believe it’s undemocratic for elected Republicans to vote against a Democrat president’s agenda when in the minority they believe it’s undemocratic for Republicans to vote for a tax bill even after winning both houses of Congress and the presidency. ... More at The Federalist (http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/19/what-the-shutdown-really-tells-us-about-democrats/)
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No, it didn't include border wall funding. However, you had a candidate who campaigned on rescinding DACA immediately. Instead, he did nothing until September, then extended it for 6 months and made it part of the negotiations in future legislation.
This amnesty program has been around since July 2012. If there had been any real interest in a Congressional fix, it would have been signed by Obama or presented to Trump by now.
Allowing it to continue and opening the door to negotiations on it invited obvious trouble. Why give them that option? It's completely unnecessary.
Six months IS immediately in government speak.
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Needs to be repeated.
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I dislike Trump intensely - you all know that - but I’m on his side on this fight and I will agree that this is the time for him to pull out his usual nastiness.
Go Trump.
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This amnesty program has been around since July 2012. If there had been any real interest in a Congressional fix, it would have been signed by Obama or presented to Trump by now.
This "amnesty program" as you call it, was deferred deportation by Obama EO, since no way would the GOP majority congress approve it permanently. It WAS presented to Trump.
One day it was described as pertaining to 800,000 but it morphed to 3.6 million, and grew from only deferred deportation, to chain migration etc.
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There is zero point in whining about Twitter or Facebook. Both are now part of our culture and can be used for good or bad.
The poster to which you are responding has neither Bookface nor Twitter accounts...
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I dislike Trump intensely - you all know that - but I’m on his side on this fight and I will agree that this is the time for him to pull out his usual nastiness.
Go Trump.
Wow!! Where is that hell freezes over picture when we need it?
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Wow!! Where is that hell freezes over picture when we need it?
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The poster to which you are responding has neither Bookface nor Twitter accounts...
So ... I don't know the guy or anything about his internet use. I'm just stating a fact. I don't use Twitter myself and only see tweets if they are posted elsewhere.
So, your point is ????
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So ... I don't know the guy or anything about his internet use. I'm just stating a fact. I don't use Twitter myself and only see tweets if they are posted elsewhere.
So, your point is ????
I guess I didn't have one. You were the one who called somebody a "whiner." It could be I read your post incorrectly.
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There is zero point in whining about Twitter or Facebook. Both are now part of our culture and can be used for good or bad.
I wish Facebook was still more about family photos but it's become 75% political on my page and most of it is strictly conservative and pro-Trump.
Don't want to derail the OT, but...
My Commie lady friend says she never sees anything "conservative and pro-Trump" on her timeline....while mine is more like yours.
They've got the algorithm going where they 'protect' your preferred ideology based upon all your posts, etc..
...which of course, hinders access to TRUTH about Pres. Trump's REAL numbers.
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Don't want to derail the OT, but...
My Commie lady friend says she never sees anything "conservative and pro-Trump" on her timeline....while mine is more like yours.
...which of course, hinders access to TRUTH about Pres. Trump's REAL numbers.
There's no question in my mind about that. I also imagine "Ignore this Post..." clicks factor in pretty heavily, too. That's why I never do that. I do have commie friends I don't follow because their walls are never-ending flows of misleading Occupy Democrats' fake memes, so maybe that's it.
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I've stocked up on water and MRE's. I may be able to survive.
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Don't want to derail the OT, but...
My Commie lady friend says she never sees anything "conservative and pro-Trump" on her timeline....while mine is more like yours.
They've got the algorithm going where they 'protect' your preferred ideology based upon all your posts, etc..
...which of course, hinders access to TRUTH about Pres. Trump's REAL numbers.
I think you are saying they "curate your feed?" Something along those lines?
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Dan Bongino has become my favorite person on twitter. His podcast is great too.
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@PressSec
I received this from a young infantryman serving in Afghanistan this morning. Sad that the men and women who have sacrificed so much are deprived of even the most basic connection to home bc Democrats are playing political games. #SchumerShutdown
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9:35 AM - 20 Jan 2018
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This "amnesty program" as you call it, was deferred deportation by Obama EO, since no way would the GOP majority congress approve it permanently. It WAS presented to Trump.
One day it was described as pertaining to 800,000 but it morphed to 3.6 million, and grew from only deferred deportation, to chain migration etc.
It's not 'as I call it.' Regardless of circumstances, they're here illegally. The program allows for a permit to stay and review as to whether you'll eventually leave or be allowed to remain, have a path to citizenship, and jump the line ahead of other legal applicants. Amnesty is the forgiveness of past legal transgressions. You can't honestly say it's anything else, whether it's applied to 800K or 3.6M.
Of course it's grown to chain migration. We've seen this before when it was called the Family Fairness Program in 1987. A really bad idea then has become an absolutely terrible one now. Admittedly, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals has a much better sound and flow than the You Won't Be Deported Until We Figure Out How To Make You Citizens, Then We Won't Deport You Act.
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Dan Bongino has become my favorite person on twitter. His podcast is great too.
Yes, Bongino is very good.
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Yes, Bongino is very good.
Also this guy, Andrew Klavan, who I am amazed I had never heard if before a week ago.
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Also this guy, Andrew Klavan, who I am amazed I had never heard if before a week ago.
Really? I love Klavan!
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Don't want to derail the OT, but...
My Commie lady friend says she never sees anything "conservative and pro-Trump" on her timeline....while mine is more like yours.
They've got the algorithm going where they 'protect' your preferred ideology based upon all your posts, etc..
...which of course, hinders access to TRUTH about Pres. Trump's REAL numbers.
I'm glad my page is not infested with commie pinks, but I'm not sure Facebook is manipulating. I think my page is more pro-conservative because of who my friends are and what they choose to post.
It's so easy now because almost every news story or column has a 'post to Facebook' app at the top and it is just easy to do it.
Right now I'm in a big fight with my former priest who was urging everyone to march today. When I challenged him about why he didn't march yesterday, he said he was going along with the Episcopal Church's position on abortion.
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Really? I love Klavan!
Yes, I saw him on Tucker Carlson’s show, and spotted the kind of mental clarity that I like to see.
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#ReleaseTheMemo
They are not doing anything else...
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I'm glad my page is not infested with commie pinks, but I'm not sure Facebook is manipulating. I think my page is more pro-conservative because of who my friends are and what they choose to post.
It's so easy now because almost every news story or column has a 'post to Facebook' app at the top and it is just easy to do it.
Right now I'm in a big fight with my former priest who was urging everyone to march today. When I challenged him about why he didn't march yesterday, he said he was going along with the Episcopal Church's position on abortion.
@Emjay, yes, that is how FB does it, and it is a real concern. Standard issue millennials, for instance, are never exposed to anything that doesn't fit within their currently existing profile. Their views, such as they are, are never challenged or expanded. There are a number of good articles out about how FB does it.
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@Emjay, yes, that is how FB does it, and it is a real concern. Standard issue millennials, for instance, are never exposed to anything that doesn't fit within their currently existing profile. Their views, such as they are, are never challenged or expanded. There are a number of good articles out about how FB does it.
You may well be right, but I'm more inclined to go with my theory. It's because of who my friends are.
Non-friends cannot post on your page if you don't allow it.
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You may well be right, but I'm more inclined to go with my theory. It's because of who my friends are.
Non-friends cannot post on your page if you don't allow it.
Girlfriend, I think you just proved my point. :laugh:
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You may well be right, but I'm more inclined to go with my theory. It's because of who my friends are.
Non-friends cannot post on your page if you don't allow it.
Just about everything I see on Bookface is stuff posted by friends, and they're mostly like you. I've unfollowed the pinkos. I don't post much myself, and I have my home page locked down, as you suggest.
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You may well be right, but I'm more inclined to go with my theory. It's because of who my friends are.
Non-friends cannot post on your page if you don't allow it.
I don’t think it is just that. I have a few big libs on my FB friends list, and over time I saw less and less of their posts. But I don’t think it is anything nefarious - probably just FB algorithms factoring in which friends’ posts I respond to and which ones I don’t.
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I don’t think it is just that. I have a few big libs on my FB friends list, and over time I saw less and less of their posts. But I don’t think it is anything nefarious - probably just FB algorithms factoring in which friends’ posts I respond to and which ones I don’t.
It's not that tough on them. If you don't click on the stories or pics, or don't comment or "like," they eventually don't ping you. Nothing nefarious about that.
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What doesn't surprise me at all is that @Emjay argues with her Episcopalian Priest, ONLINE.
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It's not that tough on them. If you don't click on the stories or pics, or don't comment or "like," they eventually don't ping you. Nothing nefarious about that.
Yes, exactly what I was thinking as well.
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Former Clinton Chief Strategist Mark Penn says:
We all know this is just a political stunt. We all know we will get our government back. If you have to wait for your paycheck so what? All those paychecks will be made up anyway.
Obviously this is a guy who have never lived hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck. Even a week delay will cause some people and children to go hungry. If they do this thing for real, for a couple of months or so, that will be devastating for a lot of people. Losing your paycheck is no joke for most people, even if they will be 'caught up' eventually. Rent and food and electricity is not a joke.
@240B
This is particularly true of many under 40 married couples who are upside down on their home loans. Most are living right on the edge of disaster anyhow,so missing a couple of paychecks for them is a VERY big deal.
The only ones that might be safe are the ones with government jobs and credit unions associated with the branch of government they work for. Those credit unions understand what is going on and they know they will get their money,so they don't start the long and expensive (for the homeowner) foreclosure process. Most bank managers can't let a loan just float for several months with no payments and not lose his job.
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VA Secretary Shulkin says veterans benefits will not be affected. The VA has a preapproved allocation that is already in their purse. Enough to last for two years.
@240B
Since I am rated as being a 70 percent service-related disabed vet,THAT's really good news to hear! My house is paid for so there was no danger of me going homeless,but it's nice to know I can make my other payments.
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@240B
Since I am rated as being a 70 percent service-related disabed vet,THAT's really good news to hear! My house is paid for so there was no danger of me going homeless,but it's nice to know I can make my other payments.
@sneakypete
The problem with that is twofold.
Did I hear him correctly. I think I did.
Also, is there going two be some issue that makes it not happen.
I am skeptical by nature.
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Retired pay?....I bet the same as active duty
@mystery-ak
I may be wrong,but I strongly suspect active and retired payments come from different sources and budgets.
You can bet the people on AD are going to get paid according to the normal schecule. You can PROBABLY bet the retired will also get paid according to their normal schedule also,but I had to add the word "probably".
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@mystery-ak
I may be wrong,but I strongly suspect active and retired payments come from different sources and budgets.
You can bet the people on AD are going to get paid according to the normal schecule. You can PROBABLY bet the retired will also get paid according to their normal schedule also,but I had to add the word "probably".
Thanks...our check is supposed to be the 1st..I guess we will see
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Thanks...our check is supposed to be the 1st..I guess we will see
It really chaps my arse that they are putting people through this. I think this is really going to backfire on the Dems.
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@sneakypete
The problem with that is twofold.
Did I hear him correctly. I think I did.
Also, is there going two be some issue that makes it not happen.
I am skeptical by nature.
@240B
I don't understand your response.
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It really chaps my arse that they are putting people through this. I think this is really going to backfire on the Dems.
We're only in day one. The last one lasted 16 days and they may not want this to be an issue for Trump during the SOTU. Who knows?
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It really chaps my arse that they are putting people through this. I think this is really going to backfire on the Dems.
@BassWrangler
I hope so too,but I'm pessimistic because it never has before.
Of course each time before we didn't have a president that would stand up on his hind feet,point at them,and say "Blame THEM!". We had weasels like Boy Jorge.
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What doesn't surprise me at all is that @Emjay argues with her Episcopalian Priest, ONLINE.
Hmmmmm. Well, I argue with both my ex-Priests because they are both liberals.
I don't argue with them unless they post something liberal or about politics. They are both nice guys.
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Hmmmmm. Well, I argue with both my ex-Priests because they are both liberals.
I don't argue with them unless they post something liberal or about politics. They are both nice guys.
@Emjay my BIL is a Lutheran Minister (the gay sect) and my whole family is Lutheran (the other sect) it makes for Love at every family gathering, even though my BIL can't take communion in the other's Church. I draw the line at arguing Religion, Politics is good, though.
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It's what Schmukie is trying to hide with the shutdown.
Bingo RIV.
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@BassWrangler
I hope so too,but I'm pessimistic because it never has before.
Of course each time before we didn't have a president that would stand up on his hind feet,point at them,and say "Blame THEM!". We had weasels like Boy Jorge.
They are certainly trying to spin it as the Republicans’ fault, but I think it is just too much to spin, and other than the mindless Dem base, I think people will see through it.
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@240B
I don't understand your response.
@sneakypete
Nevermind. Let not your heart be troubled. VA disability payments are funded in an account which is not related to the shutdown and will be paid no matter shutdown or not.
I meant exactly what I said. I have an overly skeptical and cautious nature. Sometimes too much.
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@Emjay my BIL is a Lutheran Minister (the gay sect) and my whole family is Lutheran (the other sect) it makes for Love at every family gathering, even though my BIL can't take communion in the other's Church. I draw the line at arguing Religion, Politics is good, though.
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Hey, I don't argue politics or religion with anybody in family gatherings. Although, I have to say, religion might be a safer subject, oddly enough.
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@BassWrangler
I hope so too,but I'm pessimistic because it never has before.
Of course each time before we didn't have a president that would stand up on his hind feet,point at them,and say "Blame THEM!". We had weasels like Boy Jorge.
Boy did we Ever!
Style over substance.
Projecting a 'Presidential' Demeanor.
Elevating the Optics of the Office over the Responsibility of Getting The Damn Job Done!
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Boy did we Ever!
Style over substance.
Projecting a 'Presidential' Demeanor.
Elevating the Optics of the Office over the Responsibility of Getting The Damn Job Done!
I’d bet good money that when a WH staffer said to Trump, “But Mr. President, playing golf during a government shutdown is considered bad optics,†Trump laughed out loud. :silly:
What’s “bad optics†when the democrats already compares you to Hitler?