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Title: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 01:03:15 am
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http://theunexplained.info/2016/10/22/former-nasa-engineer-talks-about-9-foot-tall-alien-meeting-with-iss-astronauts/
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22 OCT 2016
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Another mysterious case of alien disclosure has emerged, this time from a former NASA employee who claims to have witnessed the most bizarre sighting.
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While on a routine space mission, Clark McClelland, a now-retired aerospace engineer who worked for NASA’s Shuttle Fleet at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida from 1958 to 1992, witnessed a meeting between a 9-foot tall humanoid alien and two astronauts in a cargo bay of the space shuttle.
He claims that the tall alien being was wearing a similar astronaut costume, adjusted for his particularly tall size and that it appeared to be in charge as it was giving indications to the other two cosmonauts.
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I, Clark C. McClelland, former ScO, Space Shuttle Fleet, personally observed an 8 to 9 foot tall ET on my 27 inch video monitors while on duty in the Kennedy Space Center, launch Control Center. The ET was standing upright in the Space Shuttle Payload Bay having a discussion with two tethered US NASA Astronauts.
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I also observed on my monitors, the spacecraft of the ET as it was in a stabilized, safe orbit to the rear of the Space Shuttle main engine pods. I observed this incident for about one minute and seven seconds. Plenty of time to memorize all that I was observing. It was an ET and Alien Star Ship!

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With my verifiable background, there is no Federal Government Agency that can say I am crazy! I am a space program pioneer. I assisted in launching the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo, Deep Space Missions and the International Space Station. I have received honored mentions from US Senators, Congressman, Military Officers and Scientists.
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Welllllllllll, that's not exactly an everyday thing one hears from NASA engineers. LOL.
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He sounds rather believable, to me.
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And such critters have been in the literature of the field, a long time.
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Therefore what? Time will tell.
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It will be interesting to see how many skeptics about such things we have on here. They tend to be a majority of those willing to say anything at all.
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Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: geronl on October 24, 2016, 01:15:42 am
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He must be pretty old.

Which shuttle mission was it?

Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 01:43:22 am
He must be pretty old.

Which shuttle mission was it?

YEAH, He must be pretty old. I don't know which mission. I don't know that he said.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: geronl on October 24, 2016, 01:44:43 am
YEAH, He must be pretty old. I don't know which mission. I don't know that he said.

A month and year would help
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: geronl on October 24, 2016, 01:47:54 am
The first component of ISS was launched in 1998, which is 6 years after he said he retired. I'm not sure if a retired person can be "on duty", but I wouldn't doubt that much is possible if he had that much experience.

Here is a list of all the human missions to ISS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_spaceflights_to_the_International_Space_Station

Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Idiot on October 24, 2016, 01:48:38 am
He has to be at least 75 or 80.  I'd guess he's not firing on all cylinders.  Heck, I'm mid 50's and certainly don't remember like I used to.

 8888forgot
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 01:48:45 am
A month and year would help

That article is all I'd have to go on were I to research it . . . I'd have to start there. Not a current priority. Sorry.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Rivergirl on October 24, 2016, 01:55:27 am
The ET was most likely Brian Williams.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 02:00:13 am
@geronl @mrpotatohead

1. Yeah, the years can certainly erode memory capacities and color 'memories.'

2. I was skeptical about the critter standing in the cargo bay chatting with tethered astronauts. Just seemed like an unlikely context, to me.

3. It is not inconceivable to me . . . that he wanted to get out there something about a 9' "ET" and either concocted the rest or confabulated the rest.

4. It is conceivable to me that he was somehow in the control room after retirement . . . whether as a courtesy or a return for a special duty . . . and saw such goings on.

5. We live in an era when telling  the truth is a subversive activity.

6. We live in an era when bits of truth are awash in, drowning in tons of disinformation, deception, manipulation. Filtering out the fly-poop from the pepper is no easy task.

7. I think it's worth pondering his narrative because I believe that such critters exist and will be forcing themselves on the world stage overtly, the nightly news commonly etc. in the nearer and nearer time horizon.

8. Lots of details are arguable and may even be calculated disinformation, faulty memory or out-right lies. Nevertheless, there's some kernels of truth that are going to be absolutely critical for landing on our feet . . . for surviving well at all . . . in coming months and years.

9. Certainly God is still God and has everything in His big hands. We mostly 'just' need to walk close to Him sufficiently to hear His still small voice.

10. Nevertheless, most Christians, particularly, are woefully ignorant of looming realities and are likely to be like deer in the headlights for far too long . . . a hazardous stance, imho.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 02:01:01 am
The ET was most likely Brian Williams.

LOLOLOL.

Brian W has his problems but I don't think he's THAT demonized, directed by/from hell.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 02:01:53 am
He has to be at least 75 or 80.  I'd guess he's not firing on all cylinders.  Heck, I'm mid 50's and certainly don't remember like I used to.

 8888forgot

BTW, with 70 rushing up in a very few months . . . please be gentle with us fossilized old farts. LOL.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on October 24, 2016, 03:47:33 am
A month and year would help

The video said 1992
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on October 24, 2016, 03:50:21 am
He has to be at least 75 or 80.  I'd guess he's not firing on all cylinders.  Heck, I'm mid 50's and certainly don't remember like I used to.

 8888forgot
Have you ever been upfront and personal with a spacecraft, the origins of which you cannot explain?  That's something you don't ever forget.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Victoria33 on October 24, 2016, 04:40:54 am
He has to be at least 75 or 80.  I'd guess he's not firing on all cylinders.  Heck, I'm mid 50's and certainly don't remember like I used to.
 8888forgot
@mrpotatohead

"75 or 80.  I'd guess he's not firing on all cylinders."
Hmm, have you read, which I think you have, the beginning article on the thread below?  It was written by someone 83 years old, my God, she must be dead and not know it!

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,230856.0.html
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 04:45:58 am
Have you ever been upfront and personal with a spacecraft, the origins of which you cannot explain?  That's something you don't ever forget.

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 24, 2016, 07:33:04 am
A month and year would help
Year given in the video was 1991. He said the alien was in the cargo bay of the shuttle, in a suit for EVA, not on board the ISS.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Idiot on October 24, 2016, 03:10:45 pm
@mrpotatohead

"75 or 80.  I'd guess he's not firing on all cylinders."
Hmm, have you read, which I think you have, the beginning article on the thread below?  It was written by someone 83 years old, my God, she must be dead and not know it!

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,230856.0.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUYKSWQmkrg
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Idiot on October 24, 2016, 03:13:31 pm
Quix,

Since he supposedly saw this on a monitor at Kennedy, one would think there were quite a number of people seeing the same thing.  Not to mention the people on the shuttle at the time.  So out of all of these people, only ONE has decided to speak up?  Not likely..........
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 05:42:10 pm
Quix,

Since he supposedly saw this on a monitor at Kennedy, one would think there were quite a number of people seeing the same thing.  Not to mention the people on the shuttle at the time.  So out of all of these people, only ONE has decided to speak up?  Not likely..........

A plausible perspective and opinion.

On the other hand, with different fingers, to me, it is just as plausible that he IS the only person with the balls to speak up about it. The intimidation, ridicule strategy has been a VERY effective strategy for more than 60 years.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: geronl on October 24, 2016, 05:47:33 pm
The video said 1992

There was no ISS in 1992
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: ABX on October 24, 2016, 05:49:03 pm
There was no ISS in 1992

That's what THEY want you to believe.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: geronl on October 24, 2016, 05:51:53 pm
That's what THEY want you to believe.

*que the spooky music*
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: driftdiver on October 24, 2016, 05:53:10 pm
A month and year would help

A list of the shuttle launches is available here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Space_Shuttle_missions#Launches_and_orbital_flights

So unless they launched a space shuttle without anyone in Florida seeing it then it would be one of these.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 05:56:15 pm
A list of the shuttle launches is available here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Space_Shuttle_missions#Launches_and_orbital_flights

So unless they launched a space shuttle without anyone in Florida seeing it then it would be one of these.

Though that does leave out Vandenberg.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: driftdiver on October 24, 2016, 06:00:26 pm
That's what THEY want you to believe.
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The universe is 14 billion years old.
The milky way is 13.2 billion years old.
The earth is 4.5 billion years old.

Our recorded history is about 5000 years old with most of the scientific advancement taking place in the last couple hundred years.   Numerous human civilizations have risen and fallen in that 5000 years.   Its possible/probable other human civilizations existed before 5000 years ago but we can't really prove it.

So considering the time it takes a civilization to rise and to fall, something which is probably consistent with any intelligent species, what are the chances of an alien race finding us at this time out of the last billion or so years.  Why would they care to come here and study our aircraft, probe our anuses, or slaughter our cows?

Considering there really is no incentive to come here.  Resources are available in a myriad of other places.  We're relatively far from other systems and we're probably lousy neighbors since we shoot at anything we dont understand.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:01:11 pm
At my age . . . having studied the phenomena since 1962 . . .

I'm not that interested in arguing for the realities of the phenomena.

THAT issue is extremely passe, for me.

The evidence, to me, is soooooooooooooo EXTENSIVE as to no longer be very rationally logical for anyone that's done sufficient research into it.

I know, I've read all the blather against it.

And Carl Sagan's 'extraordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence' claim doesn't cut it with me--particularly after the documentation that he was a paid shill who KNEW the realities of the critters and the craft as a paid government disinformation agent.

So, for those who feel compelled to take the stance of the skeptic--help yourself. I may or may not bother responding.

I'm greatly more interested in discussing the implications of the basic outline of the facts  as are evident in the literature I've mentioned as well as quality stuff I haven't mentioned.

I'm also, frankly, not that interested in providing a lot of documentation links for my assertions.

http://www.dogpile.com

works pretty well. as does

http://www.duckduckgo.com

Most of my assertions can be tracked down with due diligence.

The two books I've mentioned by Tom DeLonge and particularly the one by William Tompkins have some new stuff worth discussing. And, they touch on some stuff long known in the literature.

The Pope's pronouncements are readily available and I may dig up the links for the Vatican stuff.

I'd be particularly interested in faithful Roman Catholics discussing such pronouncements from their perspectives.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 24, 2016, 06:08:55 pm
9 feet tall?


Is anyone else smelling an NBA deal here?
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:09:04 pm
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The universe is 14 billion years old.
The milky way is 13.2 billion years old.
The earth is 4.5 billion years old.

Our recorded history is about 5000 years old with most of the scientific advancement taking place in the last couple hundred years.   Numerous human civilizations have risen and fallen in that 5000 years.   Its possible/probable other human civilizations existed before 5000 years ago but we can't really prove it.

So considering the time it takes a civilization to rise and to fall, something which is probably consistent with any intelligent species, what are the chances of an alien race finding us at this time out of the last billion or so years.  Why would they care to come here and study our aircraft, probe our anuses, or slaughter our cows?

Considering there really is no incentive to come here.  Resources are available in a myriad of other places.  We're relatively far from other systems and we're probably lousy neighbors since we shoot at anything we dont understand.

Scientists Dr J. Alan Hynek and Dr Jacques Vallee

have documented extensive quality research and involvement with the topic. Hynek was a government bloke involved in it all way back when . . .

BOTH have asserted that the critters are not from distant planets but are evil spiritual entities from an evil spiritual dimension.

THAT is consistent with the exhaustive research of researchers like:

--Tom Horn & Cris Putnam--their extremely exhaustive research collected very rare documents from antiquity . . . including some long not seen from the Vatican archives.

--Defense CEO & Annapolis grad Chuck Missler

--L.A. Marzulli--of the WATCHER series

--Guy Malone--experiencer and minister helping folks overcome their abduction experiences as well as teaching folks how to prevent them.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:10:18 pm
9 feet tall?


Is anyone else smelling an NBA deal here?

I don't recall if he described it as reptilian, or not. Unless it was a reptilian, their bodies don't seem to be all that suited to such a game.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: ABX on October 24, 2016, 06:10:41 pm
At my age . . . having studied the phenomena since 1962 . . .

I'm not that interested in arguing for the realities of the phenomena.

THAT issue is extremely passe, for me.

The evidence, to me, is soooooooooooooo EXTENSIVE as to no longer be very rationally logical for anyone that's done sufficient research into it.

I know, I've read all the blather against it.

And Carl Sagan's 'extraordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence' claim doesn't cut it with me--particularly after the documentation that he was a paid shill who KNEW the realities of the critters and the craft as a paid government disinformation agent.

So, for those who feel compelled to take the stance of the skeptic--help yourself. I may or may not bother responding.

I'm greatly more interested in discussing the implications of the basic outline of the facts  as are evident in the literature I've mentioned as well as quality stuff I haven't mentioned.



Don't take this wrong it isn't meant to be an insult but... did you ever consider the possibility that you are being used as an unwilling tool by the government to spread these stories. I'm sure you've heard of the 'mirage men' from recently leaked documents that were meant to spread these alien stories to cover up or deflect from top-secret testing programs.

They looked for people who were susceptible (but often of high intelligence because they could rationalize conflicting evidence away) but also had a bit of influence (writers, professors, even librarians) to spread the stories.

They planted stories with these people, made sure they had confirming evidence (ie, 'friends' who knew friends who saw something...) made sure they happened upon the right books or (in the modern times, websites) and made sure the stories spread enough to deflect from the real secret weapon's testing going on.

This isn't just some late night conspiracy show stuff. Wikileaks leaked British intelligence documents outlining exactly this strategy. They had people on the hook spreading these stories for decades.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573193/Flying-saucer-focus-seagull-taking-poo-Slides-Snowdens-latest-leak-fake-UFO-images-used-deliberately-spread-misinformation-online-claims-expert.html

I know you are a true believer, but have you ever weighed the probability factor of this versus your current belief mode?
 
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 24, 2016, 06:12:10 pm
I don't recall if he described it as reptilian, or not. Unless it was a reptilian, their bodies don't seem to be all that suited to such a game.


Geckos are able to hand from walls and such with just their pads... might make it handy to use palming a ball.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:16:09 pm


Don't take this wrong it isn't meant to be an insult but... did you ever consider the possibility that you are being used as an unwilling tool by the government to spread these stories. I'm sure you've heard of the 'mirage men' from recently leaked documents that were meant to spread these alien stories to cover up or deflect from top-secret testing programs.

They looked for people who were susceptible (but often of high intelligence because they could rationalize conflicting evidence away) but also had a bit of influence (writers, professors, even librarians) to spread the stories.

They planted stories with these people, made sure they had confirming evidence (ie, 'friends' who knew friends who saw something...) made sure they happened upon the right books or (in the modern times, websites) and made sure the stories spread enough to deflect from the real secret weapon's testing going on.

This isn't just some late night conspiracy show stuff. Wikileaks leaked British intelligence documents outlining exactly this strategy. They had people on the hook spreading these stories for decades.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573193/Flying-saucer-focus-seagull-taking-poo-Slides-Snowdens-latest-leak-fake-UFO-images-used-deliberately-spread-misinformation-online-claims-expert.html

I know you are a true believer, but have you ever weighed the probability factor of this versus your current belief mode?
 

Yes. I've been backwards and forwards over those assertions, hypotheses, leaks.

They remain mostly unconvincing.

They certainly do NOT explain as broad a range of factoids, data points in the field as other more complex explanations do.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: geronl on October 24, 2016, 06:18:25 pm
Though that does leave out Vandenberg.

@driftdiver

Even if the payload and mission was "secret" they usually showed the launch on TV and the mission was numbered.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: ABX on October 24, 2016, 06:19:20 pm

Geckos are able to hand from walls and such with just their pads... might make it handy to use palming a ball.

I always found the reptilian theory interesting (even more than the 'gray'). You have an alien species from who knows how many hundreds or thousands of light years away, having gone through a completely separate evolutionary cycle from our own, yet somehow results in traits we recognize from two distinct species on our own planet (bipedal humanoid with reptile features) and that happens to be the one species that evolved that learned how to traverse space, and just happens to land on the planet that happens to have an evolutionary cycle that resulted in it having recognizable features to our species.

Even in our own world, those features are just a couple of many possibilities that derived. At that, without the happenstance of the Chicxulub meteor, we may have never even seen a bipedal humanoid type creature here.


Now weight that probability versus the probability that it is just a made up and planted story.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 24, 2016, 06:21:13 pm
I believe lizard people walk the earth...


(http://i.imgur.com/oTHIBmm.jpg)
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:26:19 pm
I always found the reptilian theory interesting (even more than the 'gray'). You have an alien species from who knows how many hundreds or thousands of light years away, having gone through a completely separate evolutionary cycle from our own, yet somehow results in traits we recognize from two distinct species on our own planet (bipedal humanoid with reptile features) and that happens to be the one species that evolved that learned how to traverse space, and just happens to land on the planet that happens to have an evolutionary cycle that resulted in it having recognizable features to our species.

Even in our own world, those features are just a couple of many possibilities that derived. At that, without the happenstance of the Chicxulub meteor, we may have never even seen a bipedal humanoid type creature here.


Now weight that probability versus the probability that it is just a made up and planted story.

I think your research and your logic could stand some tweaking.

Quality analysis of the root words in the Biblical narrative indicate evidently fallen angel critters manifesting as bi-pedal reptoid entities.

As to evolution/abiogenesis or whatever term is currently extant, even a surprising chunk of the lifelong atheist/agnostic scientists in view of the evidence the last 10+ years are tossing out that farce . . . some in favor of the not that more brilliant explanation of panspermia . . . but certainly the script calls for the critters to explain our existence as created by THEM. Certainly they don't want Almighty God Yehovah to retain ANY credit. LOL.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:27:27 pm
I believe lizard people walk the earth...

I thought you were going to pretend and play nice!
LOL.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Oceander on October 24, 2016, 06:28:51 pm
Can we have a little break from the ALL CAPS?   They hurt my eyes. 
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:30:44 pm
Can we have a little break from the ALL CAPS?   They hurt my eyes. 

Hmmmm . . . they are an assist to my aging eyes with my screen 4' from my eyes.

I am a bit curious as to how much they actually pain your eyes vs annoy your sensibilities.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 24, 2016, 06:31:26 pm
Can we have a little break from the ALL CAPS?   They hurt my eyes.


Quix has the most appropriate avatar on here IMO.


Is mine? LOL
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:33:46 pm

Quix has the most appropriate avatar on here IMO.


Is mine? LOL

Awwwwwwwwwwwww gwarsh.

How sweet.

FREEPER . . . blocking on his name . . . quiet bloke . . . gifted with gifs etc. made it specially for me as a surprise one day. I was honored.

Of course . . . for the uninitiated . . . mileage may vary.

Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: mystery-ak on October 24, 2016, 06:34:39 pm
Hmmmm . . . they are an assist to my aging eyes with my screen 4' from my eyes.

I am a bit curious as to how much they actually pain your eyes vs annoy your sensibilities.

I am sorry about your eyes..I have problems too so I can sympathize but all caps seem to take over the forum page so I would appreciate that you stop using them.

I am not sure your articles belong in Sports/Entertainment/Arts...more like Sci-Fi
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:39:48 pm
I am sorry about your eyes..I have problems too so I can sympathize but all caps seem to take over the forum page so I would appreciate that you stop using them.

I am not sure your articles belong in Sports/Entertainment/Arts...more like Sci-Fi

OK.

How about for word or phrase emphasis?

DCPatriot suggested I put them here . . . I guess as entertainment . . . and because he was kindly. You're the boss. Feel free to move them.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: driftdiver on October 24, 2016, 06:41:47 pm
Though that does leave out Vandenberg.

@Quix

I've seen the shuttle launch from the Cape, from 10 miles away and from 128 miles away.    They are kinda hard to hide.  Not to mention the location of each shuttle was not a secret.  They didn't spend much time at Vandenberg that I am aware of.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 06:43:54 pm
@Quix

I've seen the shuttle launch from the Cape, from 10 miles away and from 128 miles away.    They are kinda hard to hide.  Not to mention the location of each shuttle was not a secret.  They didn't spend much time at Vandenberg that I am aware of.

There were EVIDENTLY not that many launches from Vandenberg. There were assertions as to their classification, as well.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: driftdiver on October 24, 2016, 06:44:21 pm
@driftdiver

Even if the payload and mission was "secret" they usually showed the launch on TV and the mission was numbered.

@geronl

Yes, they had 'secret' launches but they weren't the shuttle.  They were the smaller rockets which could not be confused with a shuttle except by a drunk politician.

So I'd say its safe to assume there were no secret launches of any space shuttle.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: ABX on October 24, 2016, 06:49:59 pm
@geronl

Yes, they had 'secret' launches but they weren't the shuttle.  They were the smaller rockets which could not be confused with a shuttle except by a drunk politician.

So I'd say its safe to assume there were no secret launches of any space shuttle.

Especially considering transporting the shuttle to any of these locations is pretty hard to hide.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/NASA_Shuttle_Transport.jpg)
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: driftdiver on October 24, 2016, 06:54:13 pm
Especially considering transporting the shuttle to any of these locations is pretty hard to hide.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/NASA_Shuttle_Transport.jpg)

@AbaraXas @Quix @geronl
From what I can find there were no shuttle launches from Vandenberg.   They had originally planned to launch several from there but due to the first shuttle accident those plans were scrapped.   Also, apparently there was concern that the acoustic properties of that location posed a significant risk of destroying the shuttle during a launch, simply from the sound energy hitting the vehicle during launch.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 07:03:11 pm
@AbaraXas @Quix @geronl
From what I can find there were no shuttle launches from Vandenberg.   They had originally planned to launch several from there but due to the first shuttle accident those plans were scrapped.   Also, apparently there was concern that the acoustic properties of that location posed a significant risk of destroying the shuttle during a launch, simply from the sound energy hitting the vehicle during launch.

You are CERTAINLY far more of a shuttle expert than I ever wanted to be in my wildest dreams.

I'm not sure therefore what but I readily concede that!
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: driftdiver on October 24, 2016, 07:06:24 pm
You are CERTAINLY far more of a shuttle expert than I ever wanted to be in my wildest dreams.

I'm not sure therefore what but I readily concede that!

I was really really into the space program growing up.  Love it.   But this information came from a google search.

I actually get really sad going over to the Kennedy Space Center now.   It all looks great until you realize this was stuff we did as long as 50 years ago.   We celebrate when SpaceX does something and forget those same things were done decades ago by other engineers.

We should be on mars by now.  Maybe we could meet some martians.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 07:09:05 pm
I was really really into the space program growing up.  Love it.   But this information came from a google search.

I actually get really sad going over to the Kennedy Space Center now.   It all looks great until you realize this was stuff we did as long as 50 years ago.   We celebrate when SpaceX does something and forget those same things were done decades ago by other engineers.

We should be on mars by now.  Maybe we could meet some martians.

Actually, I'm rather hostile about the shuttle program. I  deplore using the lives of those astronauts for a smoke screen with technology so extremely complex and risky when we had far better, far safer, far more flexible craft that had been flying for quite some time.

Search Ben Rich's comments . . . retiring head of Lockeed Skunk Works.

What a waste of money and lives.

I love the spin-off's for the culture and industry . . . but those were not inherently tied to the shuttle.

We purportedly have one or more bases on Mars.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 08:18:40 pm
Ok, y'all, have been threatening to go out to my Sonroom and throw pots for hours. I need to get more made for the benefit sale in a couple of weeks . . . soooooooooooo . . . may not reply for a while unless I'm on a break.

Thanks for all your comments . . . even the skeptical ones . . . God truly knows that one of me is enough so I'm not looking for any clones in perspectives.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Idiot on October 24, 2016, 08:28:41 pm
Ok, y'all, have been threatening to go out to my Sonroom and throw pots for hours. I need to get more made for the benefit sale in a couple of weeks . . . soooooooooooo . . . may not reply for a while unless I'm on a break.

Thanks for all your comments . . . even the skeptical ones . . . God truly knows that one of me is enough so I'm not looking for any clones in perspectives.
Quix,

Post some pics of your pots if you get a chance....would be interesting to see what you make.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 24, 2016, 08:59:32 pm
Quix,

Post some pics of your pots if you get a chance....would be interesting to see what you make.

Thanks. May put a link up temporarily:

IF anyone is interested, please copy the pic to here and I'll consider trying to duplicate it. No promises and no timeline, however.

Having trouble logging in to photobucket . . .

{please PM me if you still want to see the pottery pics}


Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 25, 2016, 01:09:44 am
There was no ISS in 1992
The sighting was in the shuttle cargo bay, not the ISS, the statement was that he was involved with the ISS along with other projects.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 25, 2016, 01:15:47 am
@driftdiver

Even if the payload and mission was "secret" they usually showed the launch on TV and the mission was numbered.
So was Obama's COLB long form. Without getting into that, numbers are what people say they are. They need not be on the books.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 25, 2016, 01:18:31 am
I believe lizard people walk the earth...

Valery Jarrett is proof...
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 25, 2016, 01:27:08 am
You are CERTAINLY far more of a shuttle expert than I ever wanted to be in my wildest dreams.

I'm not sure therefore what but I readily concede that!
Don't forget the X-37B program. (USAF)(http://www.space.com/images/i/000/000/145/original/air-force-secret-space-plane-sfn-100312-02.jpg?interpolation=lanczos-none&downsize=660:*)(http://www.space.com/images/i/000/000/149/original/Atlas-V-501-Vehicle-02.jpg?interpolation=lanczos-none&downsize=660:*), even though it may not have anything to do with the sighting of a humanoid in the shuttle cargo bay on a monitor.

This configuration would give the appearance of a much more conventional launch than a manned shuttle.

More info: http://www.space.com/34343-x37b-space-plane-otv4-mission-passes-500-days.html (http://www.space.com/34343-x37b-space-plane-otv4-mission-passes-500-days.html)
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Idiot on October 25, 2016, 01:30:56 am
Valery Jarrett is proof...
@Smokin Joe

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: driftdiver on October 25, 2016, 01:31:27 am
So was Obama's COLB long form. Without getting into that, numbers are what people say they are. They need not be on the books.

About 10 million people could see the shuttle launch depending on the track.   Could that many people see the faker in chief pop out?
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 25, 2016, 01:52:48 am
About 10 million people could see the shuttle launch depending on the track.   Could that many people see the faker in chief pop out?
That assumes the shuttle launch was from Canaveral or Vandenberg.
As for Obamam, they tended not to televise such in those days. It might be on Facebook by now... :silly:
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: kartographer on October 25, 2016, 05:20:16 am
Why wouldn't  they be eager to come here and study our aircraft, probe our anuses and get a chance to slaughter our cows? Everyone loves a Redneck Saturday night once and a while! So it makes prefect sense to me.

(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/user_images/4269000/disneyworld007-4269958_273_209.jpg)


Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 25, 2016, 05:26:02 am
Why wouldn't  they be eager to come here and study our aircraft, probe our anuses and get a chance to slaughter our cows? Everyone loves a Redneck Saturday night once and a while! So it makes prefect sense to me.

Sigh.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Wingnut on October 25, 2016, 12:32:51 pm
Quix,

Post some pics of your pots if you get a chance....would be interesting to see what you make.

Screw the pots.  Show me what he's growing in them.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 25, 2016, 02:14:28 pm
@Wingnut,

Never been there.

Not going there.

I prefer facing life more or less full on with all the brain cells firing possible.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Wingnut on October 25, 2016, 02:18:29 pm
@Wingnut,

Never been there.

Not going there.

I prefer facing life more or less full on with all the brain cells firing possible.

Just yanking your chain.   :police:
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Idiot on October 25, 2016, 02:20:10 pm
@Wingnut,

Never been there.

Not going there.

I prefer facing life more or less full on with all the brain cells firing possible.
I think it's possible @Wingnut has been there, or may be there, or is getting there now.   :smokin:
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 25, 2016, 02:20:33 pm
Just yanking your chain.   :police:

No biggy. Thx.

I have a very yankable chain.

And my capacity to discern a joke vs otherwise has always been quite blunted . . . for some reason.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 25, 2016, 02:21:38 pm
I think it's possible @Wingnut has been there, or may be there, or is getting there now.   :smokin:

Uhhhhhhhhhh

Never been there.

Not going there.

His dept.

= = =

BTW, did anyone on CenturyLink experience DSL outage the last 24 hours?
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Wingnut on October 25, 2016, 02:24:55 pm


BTW, did anyone on CenturyLink experience DSL outage the last 24 hours?

We have CenturyLink here.  No problems.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Wingnut on October 25, 2016, 02:26:09 pm
I think it's possible @Wingnut has been there, or may be there, or is getting there now.   :smokin:

I'm just walking on sunshine.  No need to get any higher!   22222frying pan
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on October 25, 2016, 03:02:18 pm
We have CenturyLink here.  No problems.

Thanks. May have been a need to reset my DSL modem.

I shut things down last night and expected them to be OK this morning. Finally reset things. Works now.
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Wingnut on October 25, 2016, 03:35:16 pm
Thanks. May have been a need to reset my DSL modem.

I shut things down last night and expected them to be OK this morning. Finally reset things. Works now.

I will say over the past 30-40 days I have had to reset my modem 3 or 4 times to regain wireless signal.  It has been annoying since my Media panel with the router/modem is in another part of the house. 
Title: Re: FORMER NASA ENGINEER TALKS ABT 9-FT TALL ALIEN MEETING WITH ISS ASTRONAUTS
Post by: Quix on November 22, 2016, 02:47:37 am

Quix has the most appropriate avatar on here IMO.


Is mine? LOL

Are you aware of what the caption says on my avatar per the creator?