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Did Chief Justice John Roberts Really Scream at Conservative Justices Over the Texas Challenge to the 2020 Elections
By streiff | Dec 17, 2020 5:30 PM ET
On Monday, as the members of the Electoral College were convening at statehouses around the nation to cast their vote for the next president of the United States, an interesting side drama was taking place in Austin, Texas, as the Texas electors convened to vote for the man who should be president.
After the votes were cast, Mark Ramsey, who is the elector from Texas’s 10th Congressional District, introduced a resolution:
Whereas, the members of the presidential electoral college from Texas condemn the moral cowardice of the United States Supreme Court, in failing to accept the original jurisdiction of a suit by one state against another, be it resolved that the members of the presidential electoral college from Texas call on the state legislatures of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Michigan, to convene and appoint their electors in accordance with the true constitutional vote of the people, or if undeterminable, by appointing their electors directly.
What happened next is fascinating. Matt Patrick representing the 32d Congressional District spoke in favor of the motion.
Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
SCOTUS.
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"I don't give a #@&^ about 'Bush v. Gore'... at that time we didn't have RIOTS!"
A staffer "heard *SCREAMING* through the walls as Justice Roberts & other liberal Justices were insisting this case *NOT* be taken up..."
Wonder why Texas' case was dropped? Here's why:
It was written by someone who was a current staffer for one of the current Supreme Court justices. I’ll just describe for you the report that I read, and you can make of it what you will. He said that the justices, as they always do, went into a closed room to discuss cases they are taking or do debate; there’s no phones, no computers, no nothing. No one else is in the room except for the nine justices. It’s typically very civil; they usually don’t hear any sound; they just debate what they are doing. But when the Texas case was brought up, he said he heard screaming through the walls as Justice Roberts and the other liberal justices were insisting that this case not be taken up. The reason…the words that were heard through the wall when Justice Thomas and Justice Alito were citing Bush vs. Gore, from John Roberts were “I don’t give a…about that case, I don’t want to hear about it. At that time, we didn’t have riots.
So what he was saying was that he was afraid of what would happen if they did the right thing. And I’m sorry, but that is moral cowardice. And we in the SREC (note, this is the State Republican Executive Committee), and I am an SREC member, we put those words in there very specifically. Because the charge of the Supreme Court is to ultimately be our final arbitrator, our final line of defense for right and wrong, and they did not do their duty. So I think we should leave these words in because I want to send a strong message to them.
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https://redstate.com/streiff/2020/12/17/did-chief-justice-john-roberts-really-scream-at-conservative-justices-over-the-texas-challenge-to-the-2020-elections-n296273
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I've heard essentially the same story for several days now but never in print until now.
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Boils down that the left wing will riot, but we won't.....
Cowards ....
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So take the blindfold off the lady justice statue.
Justice is no longer blind and is based on fear of the mob and not the law or the constitution. The very thing they swore an oath to defend so help me God.
Well on our way to a Banana Republic.
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Boils down that the left wing will riot, but we won't.....
Cowards ....
Just because we haven't doesn't mean we won't--just that if we do, there won't be any saying "I'm sorry"a afterward, and we just might take it further than the streets. When Europeans get pissed, continents burn.
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Let's assume the story is false. What is right on the money is the FACT that Roberts stood against any action on the Texas complaint. I would bet everything I own.
Roberts, the Bush appointed POS, is damaging this nation every day he sits on the court.
If indeed he traveled to Epstein Island, I want the testimony from what's her name yesterday that ultimately results in his removal and anyone else on the court that traveled to that island.
22222frying pan
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I've heard essentially the same story for several days now but never in print until now.
The important part is what Thomas said
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Let's assume the story is false. What is right on the money is the FACT that Roberts stood against any action on the Texas complaint. I would bet everything I own.
Roberts, the Bush appointed POS, is damaging this nation every day he sits on the court.
If indeed he traveled to Epstein Island, I want the testimony from what's her name yesterday that ultimately results in his removal and anyone else on the court that traveled to that island.
22222frying pan
Am quite certain she will commit suicide in jail prior to that happening.
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Just because we haven't doesn't mean we won't--just that if we do, there won't be any saying "I'm sorry"a afterward, and we just might take it further than the streets. When Europeans get pissed, continents burn.
Yeah, it won't be pansies wearing black who bully and threaten others. It will be real and not a game.
http://youtu.be/o7Q6ga6RVRw (http://youtu.be/o7Q6ga6RVRw)
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The takeaway here is all wrong. Here is what it should be:
Obviously WE should be rioting and threatening “to burn it all down†(hat tip Reza Aslan) so that they fear US and what we will do.
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Lin Wood goes nuclear on justices: ‘Chief Justice John Roberts is corrupt, should resign immediately’
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/12/18/lin-wood-goes-nuclear-on-justices-chief-justice-john-roberts-is-corrupt-and-should-resign-immediately-1007017/ (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/12/18/lin-wood-goes-nuclear-on-justices-chief-justice-john-roberts-is-corrupt-and-should-resign-immediately-1007017/)
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Lin Wood goes nuclear on justices: ‘Chief Justice John Roberts is corrupt, should resign immediately’
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/12/18/lin-wood-goes-nuclear-on-justices-chief-justice-john-roberts-is-corrupt-and-should-resign-immediately-1007017/ (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/12/18/lin-wood-goes-nuclear-on-justices-chief-justice-john-roberts-is-corrupt-and-should-resign-immediately-1007017/)
For years and years, there has been ancecdotal evidence that Roberts has been hiding a "lifestyle" issue that he does not want aired. His court votes favoring the left on close votes through the years only adds credibility to that there is a level of blackmail going on.
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Roberts seems too wimpy to 'scream' in anger. Ecstasy maybe.
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Roberts seems too wimpy to 'scream' in anger. Ecstasy maybe.
You'd be surprised what sort of sh*tfit some of the wimpy ones can throw when they think they are running the show and people don't do what they say.
That just gets my back up, and my "Oh, Hell no!" on.
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Let's assume the story is false. What is right on the money is the FACT that Roberts stood against any action on the Texas complaint. I would bet everything I own.
Roberts, the Bush appointed POS, is damaging this nation every day he sits on the court.
If indeed he traveled to Epstein Island, I want the testimony from what's her name yesterday that ultimately results in his removal and anyone else on the court that traveled to that island.
22222frying pan
Notice... how that has also been "sat on" until after (way after) the election. They're waiting to see who comes out on top, evidently.
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You'd be surprised what sort of sh*tfit some of the wimpy ones can throw when they think they are running the show and people don't do what they say.
That just gets my back up, and my "Oh, Hell no!" on.
And the problem is.... these cowards are more afraid of the left than they are of us.
Big mistake. Not up until now, but things change and stuff happens. Methinks they have pushed us too far this time.
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Boils down that the left wing will riot, but we won't.....
Cowards ....
Sounds about right. I guess the takeaway is that if you want the protection of the law, you must threaten to be lawless.
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Sounds about right. I guess the takeaway is that if you want the protection of the law, you must threaten to be lawless.
By the time ordinary, law abiding people make the decision that they need to take drastic extralegal action, it will be brutal. They will not only be compelled by the casus belli, but be pissed off that they have to violate their own peaceful natures. The Terror comes to mind.
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By the time ordinary, law abiding people make the decision that they need to take drastic extralegal action, it will be brutal. They will not only be compelled by the casus belli, but be pissed off that they have to violate their own peaceful natures. The Terror comes to mind.
As in, the French Revolution? Yeah.
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The important part is what Thomas said
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Thank you for bringing Thomas's comment to my attention. As almost always I totally agree with him.
What ever happened to Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett? They are supposed to be originalists. The Texas case was all about States violating the Constitution in how they held the election for our one nationally elected politician.
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Well, a couple of thoughts. A lot of us cheered are at least were relieved when "W" won over Gore, but perhaps we would have been better off with Gore, because at least Roberts wouldn't have been appointed.
Roberts has been absolutely terrible not only for the GOP but for the country and he was appointed by "W" who is nothing more than a RINO globalist.
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The takeaway here is all wrong. Here is what it should be:
Obviously WE should be rioting and threatening “to burn it all down†(hat tip Reza Aslan) so that they fear US and what we will do.
:thumbsup:
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The takeaway here is all wrong. Here is what it should be:
Obviously WE should be rioting and threatening “to burn it all down†(hat tip Reza Aslan) so that they fear US and what we will do.
IMHO that's never going to fly; remember there are two sets of rules; one for the liberals and another set of rules for anyone going up against them. I have no doubt that "WE" would be stopped in a heartbeat and incarcerated. Which is exactly what should have happened to those when the riots first happened.
I do see some kind of pushback regardless of who is seated in the oval office. I believe that the liberals are getting geared up for a pushback and I hope team Trump is getting geared up and is preparing as well.
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Sounds about right. I guess the takeaway is that if you want the protection of the law, you must threaten to be lawless.
Exactly how do you believe the law became the law in the first place?
Was there a revolution fight?
Oh I forgot, there was. And it didn't happen just here, either.
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Thank you for bringing Thomas's comment to my attention. As almost always I totally agree with him.
What ever happened to Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett? They are supposed to be originalists. The Texas case was all about States violating the Constitution in how they held the election for our one nationally elected politician.
Cowardice is the only explanation I can come up with.
If twenty states bring a suit against 4 states and 20 others, it would seem to be of the utmost importance to at least hear them out.
I cannot think of a higher priority than to ensure the Constitution is maintained.
And they punted, scared to death.
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Cowardice is the only explanation I can come up with.
If twenty states bring a suit against 4 states and 20 others, it would seem to be of the utmost importance to at least hear them out.
I cannot think of a higher priority than to ensure the Constitution is maintained.
And they punted, scared to death.
:amen: What a disappointment in Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett and what fools they are. To give up their integrity and surrender their duties under the oath that they took is absolutely shameful. The DEMS will find a way to replace them should they gain control, I have no doubt.
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I have several "rules of bureaucrats," and here's one: Decisions get made by this formula..."Who do I want pissed at me?"
In the case of SCOTUS punting the TX lawsuit, they decided they would rather have us pissed, than the rioting mobs.
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I have several "rules of bureaucrats," and here's one: Decisions get made by this formula..."Who do I want pissed at me?"
In the case of SCOTUS punting the TX lawsuit, they decided they would rather have us pissed, than the rioting mobs.
Well, that maybe but they are going to be responsible for the fall of this Republic ....and at that point in time,IMHO they can thank themselves for causing the next Revolution or Civil War.
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Well, that maybe but they are going to be responsible for the fall of this Republic ....and at that point in time,IMHO they can thank themselves for causing the next Revolution or Civil War.
Do you think any of those guys give a rip? I don't. That's the problem!
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Supreme Court Responds To Claims That Roberts Screamed At Other Justices Over Texas Election Lawsuit
As guidance, the court “has been conducting its conferences remotely by phone since March when the building closed due to the pandemic,†a Supreme Court spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email on Friday in response to a question about the claim.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supreme-court-responds-claims-roberts-screamed-other-justices-over-texas-election-lawsuit (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supreme-court-responds-claims-roberts-screamed-other-justices-over-texas-election-lawsuit)
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Supreme Court Responds To Claims That Roberts Screamed At Other Justices Over Texas Election Lawsuit
As guidance, the court “has been conducting its conferences remotely by phone since March when the building closed due to the pandemic,†a Supreme Court spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email on Friday in response to a question about the claim.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supreme-court-responds-claims-roberts-screamed-other-justices-over-texas-election-lawsuit (https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supreme-court-responds-claims-roberts-screamed-other-justices-over-texas-election-lawsuit)
@rustynail
I hope you noticed they did not deny they found the way they did because they were afraid of the rioting mob.
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And Roberts could be yelling on the phone as it would be easier for a c/s like him.
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Do you think any of those guys give a rip? I don't. That's the problem!
You are absolutely right and it is a sad reminder that they obviously don't have a conscience. It's hard to accept that those that I thought were somewhat conservative, lack any integrity.
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You are absolutely right and it is a sad reminder that they obviously don't have a conscience. It's hard to accept that those that I thought were somewhat conservative, lack any integrity.
Well, they way they look at it, if they destroy the Republic, then there won't be anybody around to name their names. In fact, the new order will praise them to the heavens for destroying those rotten people who wanted to be free.
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I sailed wrote:
"Cowardice is the only explanation I can come up with.
If twenty states bring a suit against 4 states and 20 others, it would seem to be of the utmost importance to at least hear them out.
I cannot think of a higher priority than to ensure the Constitution is maintained.
And they punted, scared to death."
When I first read the story that's the subject of this thread, I wasn't sure if it could be believed, or not.
But the question should be posed, would such a conversation be plausible, considering the participants and the situation?
My conclusion is... yes.
Roberts used his position to "shout them down".
It's too bad Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett didn't have the nerve to stand up to him (although I can understand Barrett's position, being so new). With a 5-4 majority, even Roberts would have been forced to back down and hear the case.
This will go down as the pivotal moment in which the American Republic was lost, and the era of American socialism/communism became inevitable.
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Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
I oppose all violence, but if conservatives don't start planning and organizing now to "control the streets" in 2022 and 2024 with citizen muscle -- not police -- there's no point in even having another election. Literally.
1:14 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1339997409821085698
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A practical problem was the optics of the three Trump-appointed Justices voting to take up the case and determine the fate of the man who appointed them.
Perhaps the proper course would have been recusal, thereby letting the Court refuse to take the case by a 4 - 2 vote.
But the better course would have been to take the case and rule against Texas on the merits. We expect and accept the Supreme Court's role in deciding such tough questions. But to refuse to decide and leave Texas with no forum by which it can peaceably resolve a dispute between sovereigns, exposes a most serious flaw in the Constitutional compact that binds us.
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Just because we haven't doesn't mean we won't--just that if we do, there won't be any saying "I'm sorry"a afterward, and we just might take it further than the streets. When Europeans get pissed, continents burn.
They took away all your rights in March and still haven't given them back. If that won't make us riot, nothing will.
The left will fight over a guy they know nothing about, because that guy was black. We won't fight even if it's our Constitutional freedoms at stake.
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They took away all your rights in March and still haven't given them back. If that won't make us riot, nothing will.
The left will fight over a guy they know nothing about, because that guy was black. We won't fight even if it's our Constitutional freedoms at stake.
I still believe there is a threshold that once crossed where conservatives live there will be blood in the streets. Police or no police. All the leftist violence has been centered in leftist cities so far. I'm not going to bleed to protect a leftist from a leftist.
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A practical problem was the optics of the three Trump-appointed Justices voting to take up the case and determine the fate of the man who appointed them.
Perhaps the proper course would have been recusal, thereby letting the Court refuse to take the case by a 4 - 2 vote.
But the better course would have been to take the case and rule against Texas on the merits. We expect and accept the Supreme Court's role in deciding such tough questions. But to refuse to decide and leave Texas with no forum by which it can peaceably resolve a dispute between sovereigns, exposes a most serious flaw in the Constitutional compact that binds us.
Two flaws there:
First, this was not about the fate of Trump. It was about the fate of the Constitution at the request of a state that appeared disenfranchised.
Second, how do you know about 'merits' of the case being against Texas? The case was never heard. Mighty nice of you to prejudge a case.
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Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
I oppose all violence, but if conservatives don't start planning and organizing now to "control the streets" in 2022 and 2024 with citizen muscle -- not police -- there's no point in even having another election. Literally.
1:14 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1339997409821085698
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I still believe there is a threshold that once crossed where conservatives live there will be blood in the streets. Police or no police. All the leftist violence has been centered in leftist cities so far. I'm not going to bleed to protect a leftist from a leftist.
This is true. I've stated it before, notice that they haven't been stopped and very little has been done to curtail the violence, but you can bet once people begin to take action in more conservative areas they will be stopped and incarcerated. Laws will be used against "us" but the lawlessness will be allowed to continue on "their" side.
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:amen: What a disappointment in Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett and what fools they are. To give up their integrity and surrender their duties under the oath that they took is absolutely shameful. The DEMS will find a way to replace them should they gain control, I have no doubt.
That's the irony of it isn't it.
The Rats already made it clear that they will pack the court.
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This is true. I've stated it before, notice that they haven't been stopped and very little has been done to curtail the violence, but you can bet once people begin to take action in more conservative areas they will be stopped and incarcerated. Laws will be used against "us" but the lawlessness will be allowed to continue on "their" side.
You're right.
The answer is to start taking over States by electing people of a new party that once they control in that State they end all federal grants, especially education. The next step is to begin to develop independent infrastructure and to vote for independence. Also, during this process the State should end all co-operation with any federal agencies. It will take time, but freedom can be achieved without violence.
We see States/Cities ignoring the federal govt already with the sanctuary movement, there is no reason freedom loving people can't do the same.
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You're right.
The answer is to start taking over States by electing people of a new party that once they control in that State they end all federal grants, especially education. The next step is to begin to develop independent infrastructure and to vote for independence. Also, during this process the State should end all co-operation with any federal agencies. It will take time, but freedom can be achieved without violence.
We see States/Cities ignoring the federal govt already with the sanctuary movement, there is no reason freedom loving people can't do the same.
Years ago, I listened to a speech by Dr. Ron Paul and he was quite adamant about the only way to take back our government was from the ground up; conservative mayors, conservative governors, state legislators and state representatives. I believe he is correct and you mentioned a new party -- I absolutely think you are correct. That type of revolution will not be televised.
He did mention however that there maybe a time where "we the people" may need to fight for our freedom...he didn't specify or promote violence, nor do I, but I do see it as a possibility. People can't be attacked and not be expected to defend themselves and fight back.
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Years ago, I listened to a speech by Dr. Ron Paul and he was quite adamant about the only way to take back our government was from the ground up; conservative mayors, conservative governors, state legislators and state representatives. I believe he is correct and you mentioned a new party -- I absolutely think you are correct. That type of revolution will not be televised.
He did mention however that there maybe a time where "we the people" may need to fight for our freedom...he didn't specify or promote violence, nor do I, but I do see it as a possibility. People can't be attacked and not be expected to defend themselves and fight back.
We agree. I sure don't want to shoot at police or military. If it's bunch of BLM or Antifa thugs it's a different deal.
The trick to the revolution I'm supportive of is it's from the ground up. By the time the leftists get cranked up it's too late the State, or States, that no longer want anything to do with the federal overlords are legally entitled to refuse aid and thus eliminate the strings that come attached. Also, the States don't have to be helpful to any federal agencies and can make things increasingly difficult for them. At some point in that process the left will start asking themselves why do we want "Jesusland" a part of the socialist States of America.
It can be done!
Lord knows there are at least 75 million plus of us who are fed up.
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This is true. I've stated it before, notice that they haven't been stopped and very little has been done to curtail the violence, but you can bet once people begin to take action in more conservative areas they will be stopped and the survivors will be incarcerated. Laws will be used against "us" but the lawlessness will be allowed to continue on "their" side.
Amended to reflect what I believe will be a more accurate description of such events, should they transpire.
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bele wrote:
"Years ago, I listened to a speech by Dr. Ron Paul and he was quite adamant about the only way to take back our government was from the ground up; conservative mayors, conservative governors, state legislators and state representatives. I believe he is correct and you mentioned a new party -- I absolutely think you are correct. That type of revolution will not be televised."
So... tell me...
Which states are currently headed in that direction...?
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bele wrote:
"Years ago, I listened to a speech by Dr. Ron Paul and he was quite adamant about the only way to take back our government was from the ground up; conservative mayors, conservative governors, state legislators and state representatives. I believe he is correct and you mentioned a new party -- I absolutely think you are correct. That type of revolution will not be televised."
So... tell me...
Which states are currently headed in that direction...?
I think you see the potential for this type of movement throughout most of the South. The crown jewel would be Texas followed by Florida.
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Wishful thinking.
If the Dems sweep Georgia, this nation is over. The people will be quickly disarmed, the empty prisons will fill quickly with those not cooperating.
Reminds me of the movie The Patriot. The role played by Mel Gibson. He sounded like many of you. 'I do not see the need for violence.' He said it repeatedly until his son was shot dead, then and only then reality came crashing down on him. But he still had his weapons!!!!! As did his fellow men of South Carolina.
The Dems know they need to disarm America to complete the full take over and enslavement of the American people and merger into the globalist slave society.
So violence is essential to stopping this. And I mean severe violence. The dispatch of all that are globalists, liberals etc if you want to survive. There will be no gray area! France dispatched 17,000 folks with their revolution, lopping heads off all day long. You can multiply that number by about 1,000 if you want to end this take over of our government.
And succession will not accomplish much either. I just do not see it.