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Title: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 07, 2020, 04:48:55 pm
The Associated Press
@AP
JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP

The Associated Press declares Joe Biden the winner of a grueling campaign for the American presidency. He will lead a polarized nation through a historic collision of health, economic and social crises.


Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided US
By JONATHAN LEMIRE and ZEKE MILLERa minute ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrat Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump to become the 46th president of the United States on Saturday, positioning himself to lead a nation gripped by the historic pandemic and a confluence of economic and social turmoil.

His victory came after more than three days of uncertainty as election officials sorted through a surge of mail-in votes that delayed the processing of some ballots. Biden crossed 270 Electoral College votes with a win in Pennsylvania.

Biden, 77, staked his candidacy less on any distinctive political ideology than on galvanizing a broad coalition of voters around the notion that Trump posed an existential threat to American democracy. The strategy proved effective, resulting in pivotal victories in Michigan and Wisconsin as well as Pennsylvania, onetime Democratic bastions that had flipped to Trump in 2016.

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https://apnews.com/article/biden-trump-us-election-2020-results-fd58df73aa677acb74fce2a69adb71f9
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 07, 2020, 04:49:42 pm
I knew it was coming but it is still a shock to see it in print.. 8888crybaby
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 07, 2020, 04:50:52 pm
"The Associated Press declares Biden the winner"

On what authority?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 07, 2020, 05:18:05 pm

@·1 minute ago
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Breaking: Trump refuses to concede after media call Biden winner: ‘This election is far from over’. | Just The News
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 07, 2020, 05:21:32 pm
Statement from President Donald Trump

(https://image-cdn.parler.com/P/2/P2hiNCZNkh.jpeg)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: aligncare on November 07, 2020, 05:23:04 pm
This declaration of victory is theater, cynical, calculated, politically destabilizing theater. The counting is ongoing and the suits will go forward Monday.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: verga on November 07, 2020, 05:24:59 pm
Statement from President Donald Trump

(https://image-cdn.parler.com/P/2/P2hiNCZNkh.jpeg)
SIC em' Donald, File every suit you can, take it all the way to the Supremes.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 07, 2020, 05:31:47 pm
I can't find a word anywhere in the Constitution about the media getting to determine who wins anything politically.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: LottieDah on November 07, 2020, 05:43:45 pm
Goodbye my beloved America.  You gave us so many opportunities. This is the only time that I do not regret not having grandchildren.  I feel sorry for the future generations.  They will never know what we had.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: aligncare on November 07, 2020, 05:56:28 pm
Goodbye my beloved America.  You gave us so many opportunities. This is the only time that I do not regret not having grandchildren.  I feel sorry for the future generations.  They will never know what we had.

Do not despair. It’s not over. Don’t fall for the psychological operations being conceived and coordinated by the Biden campaign in league with the DNC, and disseminated and reinforced by the entire corrupt media establishment.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 07, 2020, 06:04:16 pm
It's a false headline and the AP is lying. They know it. They also know most people are too stupid to understand it.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: cato potatoe on November 07, 2020, 06:09:03 pm
A bunch of people are celebrating in the streets.  The pandemic must be over.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: 240B on November 07, 2020, 06:14:19 pm
OK
Let us see
HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: skeeter on November 07, 2020, 06:17:08 pm
A bunch of people are celebrating in the streets.  The pandemic must be over.

Was there ever any doubt? The first pandemic in the history of mankind that ended right on cue.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 07, 2020, 06:22:02 pm
A bunch of people are celebrating in the streets.  The pandemic must be over.

I'm not watching..I can't... 8888crybaby

Have my tv tuned to TCM..probably for the next 4years
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: deb on November 07, 2020, 06:24:59 pm
I'm not watching..I can't... 8888crybaby

Have my tv tuned to TCM..probably for the next 4years

My happy spot is rewatching “Downton Abbey”, which I plan to do over and over again.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 07, 2020, 06:44:20 pm
I'm not watching..I can't... 8888crybaby

Have my tv tuned to TCM..probably for the next 4years
I haven't watched the news in months. It's not good for the soul.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 07, 2020, 06:57:57 pm
I'm not watching..I can't... 8888crybaby

Have my tv tuned to TCM..probably for the next 4years

I agree we need a break.  But we are now in the battle of our lives in a few weeks.  What happens December 1st in the 2 GA senatorial runoff races will have serious implications.  I am guessing we win AK, which means the makeup up of the senate going into the runoff will be 50R-48D.  But if we lose both of those seats...  50-50, with  Schumer as Majority Leader. 

RNC needs to flood GA with poll watchers,
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 07:18:52 pm
This declaration of victory is theater, cynical, calculated, politically destabilizing theater. The counting is ongoing and the suits will go forward Monday.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 07:21:37 pm
Someone should tell the resistance they not be dancing in the street, they should be resting.  They have four more years ahead of them.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 07, 2020, 07:23:27 pm
Someone should tell the resistance they not be dancing in the street, they should be resting.  They have four more years ahead of them.
We're the resistance now.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 07:39:25 pm
Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow


1. The media do not declare who’s president-elect. There’s a constitutional and statutory process. Gore litigated for 37 days. Clearly the media want this ended today.

2. And this is also intended to pressure the Supreme Court justices and other courts where there is pending litigation and will be litigation. We don’t know who’s President-Elect yet.  The media at least have an obligation to explain this but won’t.


1:35 PM · Nov 7, 2020·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1325144898060705792
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: bigheadfred on November 07, 2020, 07:46:21 pm
I haven't watched the news in months. It's not good for the soul.

I agree.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: bigheadfred on November 07, 2020, 07:52:04 pm
We're the resistance now.

I always have been.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: dfwgator on November 07, 2020, 07:52:52 pm
We're the resistance now.

And Job One of the Resistance, is to make sure the GOP doesn't backslide and hold accountable any of the RINO traitors.  It's the MAGA Party now.  RINOs can leave.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 07, 2020, 07:53:07 pm
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Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 07:56:21 pm
Gulag Inmate 4859
@JackPosobiec


Trump supporters rally in Lansing, MI

Video: https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1325163211667070976

2:48 PM · Nov 7, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 07:57:27 pm
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Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: cato potatoe on November 07, 2020, 08:00:43 pm
I'm not watching..I can't... 8888crybaby

Have my tv tuned to TCM..probably for the next 4years

I'm in Charlotte for the day, and the thugs are wandering around and beeping their horns.  So glad I moved out of this dump...
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: libertybele on November 07, 2020, 08:06:36 pm
This declaration of victory is theater, cynical, calculated, politically destabilizing theater. The counting is ongoing and the suits will go forward Monday.

Unless the courts and the judges actually hear the lawsuits, then they are frivolous and this victory isn't theatrical.  It is reality.  Absolutely this has been calculated since the day Hillary lost. Sorry folks, but Trump never went after Hillary, he didn't lock her up, he appointed Sessions, surrounded himself with many other idiots and his last poor appointment who IMHO cost him re-election was Barr.  We cannot forget that Trump also selected Ronna.  She's been awfully quiet through this entire farce of an election.

No one on the GOP side, nor the RNC did a damn thing to ensure a fair election. The DEMS gave a trial run what they had planned during the mid terms and came close to victory, especially in FL.  DeSantis won by less than 1% and the courts decided.  Even with the warning shot from the DEMS that was made very clear two years ago, NOTHING was done by the right.  How in the heck did the GOP and the RNC not see this coming?  They did.  They are just as corrupt.  Romney's niece in charge should have been the first clue.  Once again though, she was Trump's selection.

We've lost the Senate as well and gained a few seats in the House. 

There is no chance that we will ever see another GOP seated again.  Those GOP Senators and House members will be sent packing as soon as the electoral college is eliminate and millions are granted amnesty.

The DEMS will pack the courts, including the Supreme Court and likely we will see Barrett impeached.

Soon we might as well hang a sign saying "Welcome to Venezuela". 

Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 08:19:07 pm
All this "announcement" proves is that I've been correct all along:  FNC declared AZ for Biteme Tuesday as the kickoff to the narrative AP continued today.  "That bad orange man, Donald Trump stole the election from the stand-up Joe Biden!"
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 08:27:11 pm
Unless the courts and the judges actually hear the lawsuits, then they are frivolous and this victory isn't theatrical.  It is reality.  Absolutely this has been calculated since the day Hillary lost. Sorry folks, but Trump never went after Hillary, he didn't lock her up, he appointed Sessions, surrounded himself with many other idiots and his last poor appointment who IMHO cost him re-election was Barr.  We cannot forget that Trump also selected Ronna.  She's been awfully quiet through this entire farce of an election.

No one on the GOP side, nor the RNC did a damn thing to ensure a fair election. The DEMS gave a trial run what they had planned during the mid terms and came close to victory, especially in FL.  DeSantis won by less than 1% and the courts decided.  Even with the warning shot from the DEMS that was made very clear two years ago, NOTHING was done by the right.  How in the heck did the GOP and the RNC not see this coming?  They did.  They are just as corrupt.  Romney's niece in charge should have been the first clue.  Once again though, she was Trump's selection.

We've lost the Senate as well and gained a few seats in the House. 

There is no chance that we will ever see another GOP seated again.  Those GOP Senators and House members will be sent packing as soon as the electoral college is eliminate and millions are granted amnesty.

The DEMS will pack the courts, including the Supreme Court and likely we will see Barrett impeached.

Soon we might as well hang a sign saying "Welcome to Venezuela".

First:  The "victory" is certainly not "real."  We've discussed this at length on TBR.

Second:  Where did you hear we lost the Senate? First I've heard of that.  Even if by some fluke that comes to pass, there are nowhere nearly enough votes in the Senate to convict.  The threshold is 67 votes, not 51.

I think your reasoning is otherwise sound, this was made possible by Trump's reneging on his promise to "lock her up."  I'd add that the House is better than it looks at first blush.  When Pelosi Impeached Trump, she had 17 votes to spare and could afford to lose a dozen votes and still win the battle.  Now, her margin is about two votes.  She's not going to get the stuff the AOC bunch is demanding, and not enough votes to pack the SCOTUS.  She'll keep her Speakership, but that's about it.

Don't panic!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 08:27:22 pm
Unless the courts and the judges actually hear the lawsuits, then they are frivolous and this victory isn't theatrical.  It is reality.  Absolutely this has been calculated since the day Hillary lost. Sorry folks, but Trump never went after Hillary, he didn't lock her up, he appointed Sessions, surrounded himself with many other idiots and his last poor appointment who IMHO cost him re-election was Barr.  We cannot forget that Trump also selected Ronna.  She's been awfully quiet through this entire farce of an election.

Why don't you save this bullshit until the votes are certified?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 07, 2020, 08:28:52 pm
Unless the courts and the judges actually hear the lawsuits, then they are frivolous and this victory isn't theatrical.  It is reality.  Absolutely this has been calculated since the day Hillary lost. Sorry folks, but Trump never went after Hillary, he didn't lock her up, he appointed Sessions, surrounded himself with many other idiots and his last poor appointment who IMHO cost him re-election was Barr.  We cannot forget that Trump also selected Ronna.  She's been awfully quiet through this entire farce of an election.

No one on the GOP side, nor the RNC did a damn thing to ensure a fair election. The DEMS gave a trial run what they had planned during the mid terms and came close to victory, especially in FL.  DeSantis won by less than 1% and the courts decided.  Even with the warning shot from the DEMS that was made very clear two years ago, NOTHING was done by the right.  How in the heck did the GOP and the RNC not see this coming?  They did.  They are just as corrupt.  Romney's niece in charge should have been the first clue.  Once again though, she was Trump's selection.

We've lost the Senate as well and gained a few seats in the House. 

There is no chance that we will ever see another GOP seated again.  Those GOP Senators and House members will be sent packing as soon as the electoral college is eliminate and millions are granted amnesty.

The DEMS will pack the courts, including the Supreme Court and likely we will see Barrett impeached.

Soon we might as well hang a sign saying "Welcome to Venezuela".

I don't think we will lose the Senate...we are bound to win at least one of them in Ga...
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 08:29:43 pm

No one on the GOP side, nor the RNC did a damn thing to ensure a fair election.

Pull yourself together, woman.  The Trump 2020 campaign/RNC has been in and out of court, including the Supreme Court, for months. 

Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 08:32:01 pm
I don't think we will lose the Senate...we are bound to win at least one of them in Ga...

I think we'll win both of those, but it's important to remember their seats will be empty for the first week or so of the Session.  I suppose technically Schumer could crown himself "Majority Leader" for that week, and he'll cause a lot of trouble in that period.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: libertybele on November 07, 2020, 08:32:14 pm
Pull yourself together, woman.  The Trump 2020 campaign/RNC has been in and out of court, including the Supreme Court, for months.

You're right .... I am besides myself.  I saw this possibility coming and like everyone else, though a realist, I'm having a darn hard time accepting what has happened.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 08:33:22 pm
I think your reasoning is otherwise sound, this was made possible by Trump's reneging on his promise to "lock her up." 

For cripes sake @Cyber Liberty "locking up Hilary" would not have stopped the theft going on now. The democrats would have started a shooting war, and I'm not convinced we would have won it.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: libertybele on November 07, 2020, 08:33:28 pm
Why don't you save this bullshit until the votes are certified?

Actually it's not b.s....it was my understanding that the votes have been certified.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 08:35:28 pm
Pull yourself together, woman.  The Trump 2020 campaign/RNC has been in and out of court, including the Supreme Court, for months.

Very true.  It's noteworthy the 4-4 loss in the SCOTUS, because Roberts needed to earn his "Souter" label he wears so proudly, is causing trouble right now in PA,  as we suspected it would.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 08:36:43 pm
Actually it's not b.s....it was my understanding that the votes have been certified.

With all due respect, zero elections have been "certified" by the respective Secretaries of State.  Nothing, zip, zero, nada has been certified.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 07, 2020, 08:37:58 pm
You're right .... I am besides myself.  I saw this possibility coming and like everyone else, though a realist, I'm having a darn hard time accepting what has happened.

I am too..crying doesn't help...I am sick to my stomach...I feel so sorry for Trump and his family... 8888crybaby
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: libertybele on November 07, 2020, 08:40:03 pm
I am too..crying doesn't help...I am sick to my stomach...I feel so sorry for Trump and his family... 8888crybaby

Yes I feel for Trump and his family -- an awful blow of injustice and corruption.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 08:40:25 pm
For cripes sake @Cyber Liberty "locking up Hilary" would not have stopped the theft going on now. The democrats would have started a shooting war, and I'm not convinced we would have won it.

I strongly disagree!  We've known for awhile locking felons up is a necessary deterrent to stop future law-breaking, and the fact that nobody (esp. Hillary Clinton) was prosecuted for the 2016 election skullduggery has indeed encouraged the Electoral fraud we are seeing today.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 08:46:33 pm
You're right .... I am besides myself.  I saw this possibility coming and like everyone else, though a realist, I'm having a darn hard time accepting what has happened.

Accept as fact the democrats are low life, corrupt scum.  This is not new.  They've been stealing elections, especially in Philadelphia, for decades.  And sure, the usual suspects on the R side of the aisle will call for a gentlemanly retreat.

Ignore them and focus on what is new:  We have a President who will not surrender to them. 

Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 08:54:24 pm
I strongly disagree!  We've known for awhile locking felons up is a necessary deterrent to stop future law-breaking, and the fact that nobody (esp. Hillary Clinton) was prosecuted for the 2016 election skullduggery has indeed encouraged the Electoral fraud we are seeing today.

And Obama.  And the top of the FBI, CIA and DOJ.

This is all on Durham.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: aligncare on November 07, 2020, 08:55:04 pm
We're the resistance now.

Should Biden become president, I have a feeling the typical shy Trump supporter will turn into a very vocal, highly critical Biden basher  happy77
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 08:56:13 pm
Actually it's not b.s....it was my understanding that the votes have been certified.

It is BS @libertybele  Votes are certified by the SOSs not the media.  The election is decided on Dec 12 when the Electoral College votes.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 08:57:07 pm
Should Biden become president, I have a feeling the typical shy Trump supporter will turn into a very vocal, highly critical Biden basher  happy77

Nah.  We're not good at resistance. 
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: libertybele on November 07, 2020, 08:59:38 pm
With all due respect, zero elections have been "certified" by the respective Secretaries of State.  Nothing, zip, zero, nada has been certified.

Ok. Thanks.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: bigheadfred on November 07, 2020, 08:59:54 pm
All I know is when tax season comes around I am filing wirh 73 million dependents.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 09:01:36 pm
And Obama.  And the top of the FBI, CIA and DOJ.

This is all on Durham.

That I can certainly agree with!! :beer: 888high58888
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 09:02:07 pm
Cerno
@Cernovich


Chuck Schumer is in the streets organizing a takeover of the Senate.

GOP Senators are on Twitter congratulating Joe Biden.

One side wants to win, the other wants to be liked.


2:57 PM · Nov 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://mobile.twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1325165438502801409
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 09:03:23 pm
Nah.  We're not good at resistance.

@Right_in_Virginia Absolutely true!  I suddenly found out I'm a dissident, and I'm totes lousy at it.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 09:04:25 pm
Cerno
@Cernovich


Chuck Schumer is in the streets organizing a takeover of the Senate.

GOP Senators are on Twitter congratulating Joe Biden.

One side wants to win, the other wants to be liked.


2:57 PM · Nov 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://mobile.twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1325165438502801409

I pray both sides are as lousy at it as I am at being a dissident.   :tongue2:
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: libertybele on November 07, 2020, 09:05:01 pm
It is BS @libertybele  Votes are certified by the SOSs not the media. The election is decided on Dec 12 when the Electoral College votes.

Not trying by any means to spew any b.s. @Right_in_Virginia  Thanks for the info.

Anywhere I go to today, people are angry, very unsettled and in for the fight.  Cars and trucks still driving around with Trump stickers and signs, Trump flags and yard signs still up.

Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: aligncare on November 07, 2020, 09:06:54 pm
I strongly disagree!  We've known for awhile locking felons up is a necessary deterrent to stop future law-breaking, and the fact that nobody (esp. Hillary Clinton) was prosecuted for the 2016 election skullduggery has indeed encouraged the Electoral fraud we are seeing today.

A public hanging would have been too good and locking her away somehow insufficient. What to do? I suppose boiling in oil would’ve worked. Unfortunately, hell wouldn’t take her.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 09:11:08 pm
Not trying by any means to spew any b.s. @Right_in_Virginia  Thanks for the info.

Anywhere I go to today, people are angry, very unsettled and in for the fight.  Cars and trucks still driving around with Trump stickers and signs, Trump flags and yard signs still up.

Today BS announcement was designed to do two specific things:  Sow depression in Trump supporters, and likewise celebrations in Trump haters.  We can't do anything about the latter, but we can refuse to cooperate with the former.

Relax.  Turn off the TeeVee (or watch OANN as I am).  And if you are so inclined, have a nice glass of wine  Your choice of red or white (or Rose if you can't make up your mind), and this day it's medicinal so have a day-drink!

The press is trying to stampede us...don't let them.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: kevindavis007 on November 07, 2020, 09:11:09 pm
We're the resistance now.


Let's stop the resistance crap.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: skeeter on November 07, 2020, 09:11:58 pm
Cerno
@Cernovich


Chuck Schumer is in the streets organizing a takeover of the Senate.

GOP Senators are on Twitter congratulating Joe Biden.

One side wants to win, the other wants to be liked.


2:57 PM · Nov 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://mobile.twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1325165438502801409
I’d like to see a list of these obsequious Republicans, just for sh*ts & giggles.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 09:12:09 pm
A public hanging would have been too good and locking her away somehow insufficient. What to do? I suppose boiling in oil would’ve worked. Unfortunately, hell wouldn’t take her.

Doing absolutely nothing is guaranteed to encourage more law-breaking. 
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: skeeter on November 07, 2020, 09:12:20 pm

Let's stop the resistance crap.
I’ll do what I like, and you can do what you want. How’s that?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 07, 2020, 09:15:45 pm

Let's stop the resistance crap.
That will be a big NO.

 And if you think I'm advocating violence, I assure you I mean "resistance" in the sense that we have to resist Democrat overreach and policies, especially when they violate the Constitution. We have to get off our rear ends and put up conservative candidates in the next election. We have to fight with every legal tool we have.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 09:15:55 pm

Let's stop the resistance crap.

Knowing you, I don't think you meant we should give up, and Trump should concede the Election....
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 07, 2020, 09:18:15 pm
I’d like to see a list of these obsequious Republicans, just for sh*ts & giggles.

Jeb Bush...That Mormon Guv.. that I've seen
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 07, 2020, 09:23:30 pm
All I know is when tax season comes around I am filing wirh 73 million dependents.

The Catfish Challenge

I've paid $1.7M in federal income tax in my lifetime.  Nothing I can do to reduce that amount, or future amounts....  I won't cheat.  However, One thing we can do in resistance is to boycott the Biden Economy.  I am and am challengng every other conservative to buy ZERO big ticket items the next 4 years.  Purchase only the essentials.  Let's see how Pedo Joes politically deals with consistent negative GDP growth and 12-15% unemployment for 4 years. 

$'s still translates into power
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: aligncare on November 07, 2020, 09:41:41 pm

Let's stop the resistance crap.

Hypothetically, suppose after Biden’s inauguration there emerged irrefutable evidence, affirmed in a federal appellate ruling, that massive, multi state fraud, ballot tampering, deliberately programmed software errors and vote fixing occurred, and it went high up in democrat state governments, and that it had changed the result of the election to favor Biden... Hypothetically, would you resist then? And if not, what would it take!!!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: dfwgator on November 07, 2020, 09:46:26 pm
Cerno
@Cernovich


Chuck Schumer is in the streets organizing a takeover of the Senate.

GOP Senators are on Twitter congratulating Joe Biden.

One side wants to win, the other wants to be liked.


2:57 PM · Nov 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://mobile.twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1325165438502801409

MAGA rules the GOP now,   the old GOPers can go somewhere else.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 10:20:45 pm
MAGA rules the GOP now,   the old GOPers can go somewhere else.

I envision the President starting his own Party ... the only question I see is whether or not he does this from the White House.

But I don't think he's going to leave his supporters to the whims of the spineless and majorly corrupt GOP.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 10:22:34 pm
Jeb Bush...That Mormon Guv.. that I've seen

Laura Ingraham is already cautioning the President to accept defeat with "grace and composure".

Can we all leave Fox now?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 10:24:18 pm

Let's stop the resistance crap.

Nah.  Granted, we won't take to the streets .... but we will join a political party headed by Donald J. Trump.   wink777
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 07, 2020, 10:38:47 pm
Laura Ingraham is already cautioning the President to accept defeat with "grace and composure".

Can we all leave Fox now?

Ingraham?  We are near the end of support.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 10:40:59 pm
Nah.  Granted, we won't take to the streets .... but we will join a political party headed by Donald J. Trump.   wink777

You know, if he does that while the iron is hot, and beats that drum as hard as he can the next 3 years, he might just succeed at what we've been hoping for the past couple of decades:  Send the GOP the way of the Whigs.  The Whigs failed because they wouldn't address the hot topic of the day, Slavery.  The GOP deserves to go because they, too have been ignoring the hot topics like abortion and election fraud.

I like the idea.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 07, 2020, 10:41:06 pm
I envision the President starting his own Party ... the only question I see is whether or not he does this from the White House.

But I don't think he's going to leave his supporters to the whims of the spineless and majorly corrupt GOP.
Rumor has it he'll start a news network with Tucker Carlson and Hannity.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 10:42:51 pm
Ingraham?  We are near the end of support.

It's a bit disappointing, but remember she apologized for something to appease the left, and they slapped her for it.  She's no tower of strength. **nononono*

Never give up!  Never surrender!  This is for all the marbles.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 10:45:03 pm
Rumor has it he'll start a news network with Tucker Carlson and Hannity.

I think forming a new Party would be a more robust reaction.  Trumpism could last for a century after that.  The TV network idea sounds good on paper, but it's not where Donald Trump wants to be.  He's already dominated on TV, so it's BTDT to him.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: dfwgator on November 07, 2020, 10:48:03 pm
I think forming a new Party would be a more robust reaction.  Trumpism could last for a century after that.  The TV network idea sounds good on paper, but it's not where Donald Trump wants to be.  He's already dominated on TV, so it's BTDT to him.

The GOP is MAGA.   Let RINOs create their new party, we'll keep the GOP thank you very much.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 07, 2020, 10:53:08 pm
I think forming a new Party would be a more robust reaction.  Trumpism could last for a century after that.  The TV network idea sounds good on paper, but it's not where Donald Trump wants to be.  He's already dominated on TV, so it's BTDT to him.

IMO- 3rd party would insure democrat rule to infinity 
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: dfwgator on November 07, 2020, 10:56:50 pm
IMO- 3rd party would insure democrat rule to infinity

Exactly.  It would undo everything Trump has accomplished.   The seeds have been planted and are already bearing fruit.  The GOP has been transformed under Trump, and the RINOs aren't getting it back.   MAGA is a 70-Million Strong Movement, and We Are the GOP Now! RINOs OUT!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 11:03:47 pm
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Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 11:07:02 pm
IMO- 3rd party would insure democrat rule to infinity

You will not be calling it a "third party" when they get more votes than the Whigs...I mean the Republican'ts.  I'm warming up to the notion.  Remember, in 1860 it was the republicans who were the third party, and Lincoln still won.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 11:29:03 pm
Brian Bartlett
@BrianBartlett


After finishing the round, he stopped to take photos with a bride getting married at the club today.

Video: https://twitter.com/BrianBartlett/status/1325156427221110785

2:21 PM · Nov 7, 2020 from Trump National Golf Club Washington D.C.·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on November 07, 2020, 11:39:45 pm
I don't think we will lose the Senate...we are bound to win at least one of them in Ga...
Confident with what we have seen this week at the voting counting centers?

Oh, and BTW, 5 of the existing GOP Senators are 80 or over in age.

There will be some more elections as well. Soon.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 07, 2020, 11:41:32 pm
Confident with what we have seen this week at the voting counting centers?

Oh, and BTW, 5 of the existing GOP Senators are 80 or over in age.

There will be some more elections as well. Soon.

and as discussed on another thread.  There is time for Soros and Bloomberg to relocate a 100,000 volunteers to GA n time to legally vote.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 07, 2020, 11:41:43 pm
Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray


Biden supporter fights Black Lives Matter supporter. You hate to see it.

Video: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1325209621246611456

5:52 PM · Nov 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 07, 2020, 11:45:44 pm
Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray


Biden supporter fights Black Lives Matter supporter. You hate to see it.

Video: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1325209621246611456

5:52 PM · Nov 7, 2020·Twitter Web App

Another  BLM sucker punch...  Imagine that.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 07, 2020, 11:55:19 pm
Another  BLM sucker punch...  Imagine that.

But it was sweet to watch anyway.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: jmyrlefuller on November 07, 2020, 11:59:21 pm
However, One thing we can do in resistance is to boycott the Biden Economy.  I am and am challengng every other conservative to buy ZERO big ticket items the next 4 years.  Purchase only the essentials.  Let's see how Pedo Joes politically deals with consistent negative GDP growth and 12-15% unemployment for 4 years.
They'll blame it on the virus and use it for more printed money and bailouts.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 08, 2020, 12:07:53 am
You know, if he does that while the iron is hot, and beats that drum as hard as he can the next 3 years, he might just succeed at what we've been hoping for the past couple of decades:  Send the GOP the way of the Whigs.  The Whigs failed because they wouldn't address the hot topic of the day, Slavery.  The GOP deserves to go because they, too have been ignoring the hot topics like abortion and election fraud.

I like the idea.

@Cyber Liberty

Me,too!

Not only is it something positive to do,it has the added advantage of making RINO heads explode.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 08, 2020, 12:09:53 am
IMO- 3rd party would insure democrat rule to infinity

@catfish1957

Well,it would in FACT be a second party. The First party would be composed of Dims and their RINO butt-buddies/co-defendants.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 08, 2020, 12:12:11 am
I wrote down where our investments stand on this date. It will be interesting to see whether we're as wiped out by a Biden presidency as we were by Obama. Remember how the market crashed just before the 2008 election, when it became apparent Obammy would win? Can't wait to see what happens Monday (unless Wall Street is holding out hope Trump's legal challenges succeed).
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Fishrrman on November 08, 2020, 12:12:57 am
kevindavis wrote:
"Let's stop the resistance crap."

That's how the democrat-communists see you.
Whether you like it, or not.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Fishrrman on November 08, 2020, 12:16:54 am
Cyber wrote:
"The Whigs failed because they wouldn't address the hot topic of the day, Slavery.  The GOP deserves to go because they, too have been ignoring the hot topics like abortion and election fraud."

Boy, did you swing and miss on that one.
There's only one "topic", as to where the incoming "administration" is going to "lead" us:
That's down the fast track to socialism/communism.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 08, 2020, 12:16:57 am
Another  BLM sucker punch...  Imagine that.

@catfish1957

Notice how the brave black warrior waited until his victim,who MIGHT have been a female,had their head turned away talking to someone when he started punching her,and then started running away when she turned back and charged at him?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 08, 2020, 12:18:10 am
I wrote down where our investments stand on this date. It will be interesting to see whether we're as wiped out by a Biden presidency as we were by Obama. Remember how the market crashed just before the 2008 election, when it became apparent Obammy would win? Can't wait to see what happens Monday (unless Wall Street is holding out hope Trump's legal challenges succeed).

Here are some ancillary key indicators to watch:

1. Gold prices and CPI- Half the equation to gauge whether Biden's disaster takes a decisive hyperinflationary turn
2. Equity prices, and especially equity prices of consumer staples.  I think the last leg of market will have trouble giving up the ghost on speculative plays, and most specific in the Tech Sector.  If we see this playing out we are looking at probably something worse than 2000 and 2008.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 08, 2020, 03:21:25 am
We found Hunter ...

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/11/08/02/35388226-8925573-image-a-64_1604802531800.jpg)


(https://wehco.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2020/11/07/AP20313085120622_t800.jpg?90232451fbcadccc64a17de7521d859a8f88077d)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 08, 2020, 03:30:08 am
We found Hunter ...



Free as a bird, as the rest of us prepare our wrists for the shackles of socialism.  Reads like a dystopian bad dream. 
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: christian on November 08, 2020, 04:12:04 am
The democrats are hardcore determined to tear the Country apart, any way they can.  So we should help tear the economy down to defy Biden and help him tear the Country down,  HUH ?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Idiot on November 08, 2020, 04:30:26 am
Here are some ancillary key indicators to watch:

1. Gold prices and CPI- Half the equation to gauge whether Biden's disaster takes a decisive hyperinflationary turn
2. Equity prices, and especially equity prices of consumer staples.  I think the last leg of market will have trouble giving up the ghost on speculative plays, and most specific in the Tech Sector.  If we see this playing out we are looking at probably something worse than 2000 and 2008.
I got out of the market.  happy77
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: jafo2010 on November 08, 2020, 06:16:08 am
I hope Trump tears all of them a new *sshole!  They picked the wrong billionaire to fight.  They have been trying for four years and failed.  They have gotten cocky with their OVERT FRAUD.  If our Supreme COurt does their job, Trump wins handily.

And when he does, I hope he replaces that POS running the DOJ with someone chomping at the bit to indict and convict a sh*tload of traitors.

I WANT PUBLIC EXECUTION BROUGHT BACK JUST FOR THESE TRAITORS!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2020, 12:52:40 pm
"The Associated Press declares Biden the winner"

On what authority?
Exactly. Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States do I see mention of the Associated Press as having any authority to decide or declare who wins the election.

I will wait for the irregularities to be resolved and the legitimate votes counted.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 08, 2020, 01:56:27 pm
I got out of the market.  happy77

I did too, and it had nothing to do with politics.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 08, 2020, 02:01:16 pm
I did too, and it had nothing to do with politics.

I am down to 17.65% in equities.  That's a lifetime low for me.  Especially since the age old axiom 1- minus your age should have me double that.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 08, 2020, 02:03:56 pm
If we liquidated all equities and mutual funds, we'd have to put the cash somewhere. What do you recommend?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: bigheadfred on November 08, 2020, 02:07:44 pm
If we liquidated all equities and mutual funds, we'd have to put the cash somewhere. What do you recommend?

Nigeria.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 08, 2020, 02:09:02 pm
Nigeria.
Well, I just got an email from a guy there who might be able to help! Woo hoo.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 08, 2020, 02:35:06 pm
Well, I just got an email from a guy there who might be able to help! Woo hoo.

Meeting you and Mr. M just made it on my bucket list....
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: bigheadfred on November 08, 2020, 02:36:29 pm
Meeting you and Mr. M just made it on my bucket list....

For investment advice?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 08, 2020, 02:36:56 pm
Meeting you and Mr. M just made it on my bucket list....

I'm pretty sure that happened for me in 2000 at a ball in D.C. but we are still not 100% sure.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 08, 2020, 02:38:18 pm
If we liquidated all equities and mutual funds, we'd have to put the cash somewhere. What do you recommend?

I am not a financial advisor, and would hate to give you advise that didn't pan out.  Every person's situaton is different.  Don't forget if you cash out, you will likely be paying premium on capital gains if if throws you up a tax bracket.  And if its from IRA's or 401 K's there's the age 59 1/2 restriction, and what is pulled out is taxed fully as income.  Again does that extra income move you to a higher bracket?

But IMO, if you are shifting out of equities, of what I have shifted this is what I have done:

* 1/3- Cash.
* 1/3 mix of a 75/25 precious metals (silver/gold). Along with barter of goods and services, this may be the next currency. 
* 1/3 income producing real estate that isn't rental property.  Farmland is an example.  Plats of timber that can rotated and harversted is another.

The sheeple who voted for Biden don't realize that nationwide lockdown Part 2, will absolutely crush this economy. 

Scenario 1-  Biden throws 10's of trillions of dollars in aid.  China/Others  liquidate US Bonds, Dollar is stripped of status of reference  currency.  Massive hperinflation insues. 
Scenario 2- With some fiscal restraint, demand for goods and services crashes due to spiraling unemployment .  Think 1929-1939 on 'roids.
Scenario 3- The mask and ruse comes off this pandemic crisis, things get back to some normalcy,(or effective vaccine)  and we live in a dead in the water stagflatted Obama like economy that will start a downward slide as Biden dismantles the oil industry.

I have done this for disaster reserves to address both the hyperinflationary or crash scenarios.   And honesty, I can't tell you which one is more likely.  Also don't forget, if GOP can hold the senate, a lot of this short term doom and gloom many be premature.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 08, 2020, 02:42:34 pm
Nigeria.

Did you know that there are still people who are getting fleeced by that Nigerian Fund diversion scam?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 08, 2020, 02:56:02 pm
Meeting you and Mr. M just made it on my bucket list....
We'll gas up the Subaru and see you at the Castle!  :laugh:
@Bigun Do you think we met at the 2000 (TOSer) ball? It's a distinct possibility.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 08, 2020, 02:58:23 pm
We'll gas up the Subaru and see you at the Castle!  :laugh:
@Bigun Do you think we met at the 2000 (TOSer) ball? It's a distinct possibility.

As I recall, you and I have discussed this before @mountaineer.  We were both there. We know that for sure but whether or not we encountered each other is still a little gray.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: aligncare on November 08, 2020, 03:27:50 pm
If Biden manages to survive the coming election fraud investigations, President Trump should not attend Joe Biden’s inauguration. Biden (and family) have corrupted the office of Vice President (factually provable were it seriously investigated). For Trump to attend would not only give legitimacy to Biden’s fitness for office but also to the fraudulently conducted election. I suspect that Trump will not do that.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Idiot on November 08, 2020, 03:43:21 pm
If Biden manages to survive the coming election fraud investigations, President Trump should not attend Joe Biden’s inauguration. Biden (and family) have corrupted the office of Vice President (factually provable were it seriously investigated). For Trump to attend would not only give legitimacy to Biden’s fitness for office but also to the fraudulently conducted election. I suspect that Trump will not do that.
That's what I was thinking.  Of course the media will rake him over the coals for it.  Oh well...the media impeached him.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 08, 2020, 03:45:57 pm
That's what I was thinking.  Of course the media will rake him over the coals for it.  Oh well...the media impeached him.

In this environment, I have concern for POTUS' safety.  The rabid left still wants blood.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Idiot on November 08, 2020, 04:02:50 pm
In this environment, I have concern for POTUS' safety.  The rabid left still wants blood.
I forgot to think about the Trump business.  Trump will likely have to play nice, or they'll ruin all of Trump's businesses.  It will be interesting to see how far he's willing to go.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 08, 2020, 04:14:12 pm
I forgot to think about the Trump business.  Trump will likely have to play nice, or they'll ruin all of Trump's businesses.  It will be interesting to see how far he's willing to go.

Trump's net worth was cut by a third the day he rode down the elevator.  They've been at economic war with Trump ever since.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: dfwgator on November 08, 2020, 04:17:42 pm

I have done this for disaster reserves to address both the hyperinflationary or crash scenarios.   And honesty, I can't tell you which one is more likely.  Also don't forget, if GOP can hold the senate, a lot of this short term doom and gloom many be premature.

We must hold until 2022, I believe the GOP will take back the House, maybe even win 300 seats.  That will ease things, until 2024, and we can boot the Rats out.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 08, 2020, 04:19:17 pm
I forgot to think about the Trump business.  Trump will likely have to play nice, or they'll ruin all of Trump's businesses. It will be interesting to see how far he's willing to go.

@mrpotatohead

Yeah,just like the petty little bitches on the left were going to leave him alone,right? </S>
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: libertybele on November 08, 2020, 04:27:00 pm
We must hold until 2022, I believe the GOP will take back the House, maybe even win 300 seats.  That will ease things, until 2024, and we can boot the Rats out.

Anyone?  I keep seeing conflicting reports on various websites -- some showing that the GOP Senate majority is still undecided.

I like your optimism @dfwgator but other than Cruz and Paul, I can't think of other true conservatives in the Senate who will continue to fight for what is right, Constitutional and for the good of the country.

The DEMS will change the election laws and grant amnesty long before 2022 -- not a snowball's chance that the GOP will expand their seats in the House nor the Senate; in fact we can say goodbye to the GOP.

A new party must be formed -- and I am hoping that it will be led by Cruz.  I've thought about this happening for awhile -- maybe he'll feel like fighting that much OR he'll get out of the government circus altogether.  I can't think of anyone else qualified to lead that crusade.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 08, 2020, 04:34:11 pm
Anyone?  I keep seeing conflicting reports on various websites -- some showing that the GOP Senate majority is still undecided.

I like your optimism @dfwgator but other than Cruz and Paul, I can't think of other true conservatives in the Senate who will continue to fight for what is right, Constitutional and for the good of the country.

The DEMS will change the election laws and grant amnesty long before 2022 -- not a snowball's chance that the GOP will expand their seats in the House nor the Senate; in fact we can say goodbye to the GOP.

A new party must be formed -- and I am hoping that it will be led by Cruz.  I've thought about this happening for awhile -- maybe he'll feel like fighting that much OR he'll get out of the government circus altogether.  I can't think of anyone else qualified to lead that crusade.

You're correct, there are two Republican Senators that are not going to be decided until 1/5/21 runoff election in GA.

If a new Party emerges to blow away the GOP, it will take a Donald Trump to make it happen.  Stay tuned if the Rats manage to steal this election.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 08, 2020, 04:38:40 pm
You're correct, there are two Republican Senators that are not going to be decided until 1/5/21 runoff election in GA.

If a new Party emerges to blow away the GOP, it will take a Donald Trump to make it happen.  Stay tuned if the Rats manage to steal this election.

And even with a slim senate majority, don't forget that we have to deal with the likes of Romney, Murkowski, Collins, and Sasse. Nothing will be a slam dunk, including immigration.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: libertybele on November 08, 2020, 04:44:07 pm
You're correct, there are two Republican Senators that are not going to be decided until 1/5/21 runoff election in GA.

If a new Party emerges to blow away the GOP, it will take a Donald Trump to make it happen.  Stay tuned if the Rats manage to steal this election.

Cruz certainly isn't a DJT, but he was the only one that came close to defeating him campaign wise and he's more than knowledgeable about Constitutional law and the DC cesspool. Yes, I understand that under the Constitution he could not be president.  I get that.  Nothing though would prevent him from leading the charge to form a new party.

I'd say if the GOP loses the Senate majority ... not going to make any difference if some leave their seats and form a new party -- same with the House.  IMHO that's the only chance this country has of holding onto conservatism and our Republic and as the Biden/Harris socialism takes hold ... I think more will get on board and Americans will be ready to jump on board.

A lot of wishful thinking on my part, I know.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 08, 2020, 04:58:46 pm
Cruz certainly isn't a DJT, but he was the only one that came close to defeating him campaign wise and he's more than knowledgeable about Constitutional law and the DC cesspool. Yes, I understand that under the Constitution he could not be president.  I get that.  Nothing though would prevent him from leading the charge to form a new party.

I'd say if the GOP loses the Senate majority ... not going to make any difference if some leave their seats and form a new party -- same with the House.  IMHO that's the only chance this country has of holding onto conservatism and our Republic and as the Biden/Harris socialism takes hold ... I think more will get on board and Americans will be ready to jump on board.

A lot of wishful thinking on my part, I know.

Changing to a new Party doesn't mean much in terms of tenure or caucusing with the GOP.  There are two Socialist Party Senators who are "Independent" and caucus with the Rats (Sanders and some other numbnutz from up in the Great White Northern Hell called "New England").
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2020, 10:44:27 pm
@mrpotatohead

Yeah,just like the petty little bitches on the left were going to leave him alone,right? </S>
Some of the most vindictive people on the planet are on the Left, wanting to get even with the rest of the world for their own failings as humans, but that by no means confines the type to the Leftists. Many who have claimed to be 'conservative' would stand in line to get a lash in.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 08, 2020, 10:56:02 pm
PROOF OF FRAUD? Republicans Won 28 of 29 Most Competitive House Seats, Added 3 State Legislatures, Did Not Lose a Single House Race — But Joe Biden Won!!?! (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/proof-fraud-republicans-won-28-29-competitive-house-seats-added-3-state-legislatures-not-lose-single-house-race-joe-biden-won/)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: bigheadfred on November 08, 2020, 11:07:27 pm
Some of the most vindictive people on the planet are on the Left, wanting to get even with the rest of the world for their own failings as humans, but that by no means confines the type to the Leftists. Many who have claimed to be 'conservative' would stand in line to get a lash in.

Like I said.

Perfidy doesn't end at the church doors.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: verga on November 09, 2020, 12:49:03 pm
I hope Trump tears all of them a new *sshole!  They picked the wrong billionaire to fight.  They have been trying for four years and failed.  They have gotten cocky with their OVERT FRAUD.  If our Supreme COurt does their job, Trump wins handily.

And when he does, I hope he replaces that POS running the DOJ with someone chomping at the bit to indict and convict a sh*tload of traitors.

I WANT PUBLIC EXECUTION BROUGHT BACK JUST FOR THESE TRAITORS!
Put Giuliani in there. If nothing else it will be fun to watch the Dems sweat.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: christian on November 10, 2020, 04:42:43 am
My mensa brother keeps telling me, should the President get re-elected, he should appoint a grennel to clear up this mess.  Apparently he is very smart and a real pitbull in getting situations resolved.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 10, 2020, 02:33:02 pm
Quote
GEORGIA.

132,000 “Change of Address” RED FLAGS in Fulton County, GA. These votes are “highly likely ineligible to vote and have moved,” per source.

Biden leads Georgia by 10K votes as of last update.

It’s enough to be a *gamechanger.* 🚨🚨🔽https://t.co/J2X7VoEFkR

— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) November 8, 2020

I have no idea whether or not this is true.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: christian on November 10, 2020, 10:52:35 pm
Weighty crimes are just so trivial when a democrat commits them, you want justice/hanging?  Find a Republican to accuse of the same thing. :yowsa: :smokin: 22222frying pan  Courts then become optional, a public lynchin will do just fine. :chairbang:
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Wingnut on November 10, 2020, 11:00:03 pm
I have no idea whether or not this is true.

I hope it is.   But the MSM will never confirm it.
https://thewashingtonsentinel.com/georgia-may-have-at-least-32000-illegal-ballots/
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 11, 2020, 12:16:20 pm
Statistical analysis of PA vote anomalies: https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/pennsylvania-vote-anomalies/ (https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/pennsylvania-vote-anomalies/) with explanations (of why they are anomalies, statistically speaking).
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 11, 2020, 12:39:16 pm
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-analysis-election-night-data-states-shows-millions-votes-either-switched-president-trump-biden-lost/?fbclid=IwAR0x6HwU5X7Xl1lODz3u_X89-6QwRxSJGvzUofOiMl35BbLspPkiQJtEsgE (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-analysis-election-night-data-states-shows-millions-votes-either-switched-president-trump-biden-lost/?fbclid=IwAR0x6HwU5X7Xl1lODz3u_X89-6QwRxSJGvzUofOiMl35BbLspPkiQJtEsgE)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 11, 2020, 12:53:22 pm
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/ (https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/)

Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: aligncare on November 11, 2020, 07:18:09 pm
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/ (https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8O2wesk/happening-calling-every-pede-to-/)

Ooh, I like this from the author:

REMINDER: THIS DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE HUNDRED THOUSANDS OF TRUMP VOTES DESTROYED, BURNED AND RIPPED APART, THE THOUSANDS OF BALLOTS JUST MARKED FOR BIDEN. THIS IS THE EVIDENCE WE'VE FOUND SO FAR.

Interesting that I hadn’t really considered the subtraction of Trump votes when trying to get my arms around what happened that changed an outcome which seemed inevitable, obvious, when measured against the reality of massive crowds of Trump supporters at rallies, and lining highways and boulevards and waterways across America, red and blue states.

On the other side there was Biden. No excitement or enthusiasm for Biden. Zero. None. It was a pathetic campaign.

So, now another piece falls into place for me. The art of the steal. Addition of Biden votes (dead people); subtraction of Trump votes (disappearing ballots); reversing or switching Trump votes for Biden votes with aid of machines and computers; dem officials pre canvassing voters to cure spoiled ballots – only of democrats, not republicans.

This can’t be exhaustive. I know a democrat that would casually murder someone for their ballot and then sit in their dining room and eat their food while marking down ‘Biden’.

I’ve said it before, and now again. Leftist democrats are the scum that scum scrapes off its shoes.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 11, 2020, 08:03:33 pm
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, November 11, 2020


The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 53% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-six percent (46%) disapprove.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_nov11 (https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_nov11)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: skeeter on November 11, 2020, 08:08:19 pm
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, November 11, 2020


The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 53% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-six percent (46%) disapprove.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_nov11 (https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_nov11)
this was Trumps job approval just prior to the election.

People who watch this kind of thing say it’s impossible for an incumbent to lose with this level of approval. Wonders never cease.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: aligncare on November 11, 2020, 08:45:00 pm
this was Trumps job approval just prior to the election.

People who watch this kind of thing say it’s impossible for an incumbent to lose with this level of approval. Wonders never cease.

Statistically, incumbents win re-election. Just another data point in Biden’s brief stint as president-elect. I’m hoping Trump can see to it the the media cancel The Joe Biden President Elect Show.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 11, 2020, 08:53:11 pm
Statistically, incumbents win re-election. Just another data point in Biden’s brief stint as president-elect. I’m hoping Trump can see to it the the media cancel The Joe Biden President Elect Show.

Checking back a 150 years of elections, this is also the most suspicious example and case of reverse coatails.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 11, 2020, 11:58:14 pm
this was Trumps job approval just prior to the election.

People who watch this kind of thing say it’s impossible for an incumbent to lose with this level of approval. Wonders never cease.

@skeeter

Dims,once again,making the impossible,possible. Even probable.

Is there NOTHING they can't do?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 12, 2020, 12:00:40 am
Checking back a 150 years of elections, this is also the most suspicious example and case of reverse coattials.

@catfish1957

I know I am not the first to say this,but I am saying it now. IF the Dims are successful at stealing this election,those of us who are still patriotic have a DUTY to march on DC the day of the inauguration and make sure it doesn't happen.

We can do this,AND we can do it without arms IF we have the numbers.

All we really have to do is get shoulder to  shoulder,along with battery-powered grinders to cut the bars in the fences,and march into the WH  to stop it.

What are they going to do,gun down unarmed voters protesting the theft of America in front of international tv cameras?

Even if the SS is able to move them away so they can have the swearing-in ceremony inside somewhere,this should inspire others to do similar things.

There is NO way we can allow it to even have the appearance of being legitimate.

And,"YES,I WILL BE THERE MARCHING ON THE WH ON INAUGURATION DAY if it happens,and if I am able to walk. If I am unable to walk,I am hoping I can find a volunteer to push me in a chair.

One thing I want to emphasize,WE MUST NOT be the ones who fire the first shots. DO NOT TAKE ANY WEAPONS THERE WITH YOU. LET OUR NUMBERS SERVE AS OUR ARMS!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: skeeter on November 12, 2020, 12:24:43 am
@skeeter

Dims,once again,making the impossible,possible. Even probable.

Is there NOTHING they can't do?

Lie cheat steal. They do it all.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 12:32:06 am
Lie cheat steal. They do it all.

You forgot Murder, but yeah.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 12, 2020, 05:04:20 pm
Ooh, I like this from the author:

REMINDER: THIS DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE HUNDRED THOUSANDS OF TRUMP VOTES DESTROYED, BURNED AND RIPPED APART, THE THOUSANDS OF BALLOTS JUST MARKED FOR BIDEN. THIS IS THE EVIDENCE WE'VE FOUND SO FAR.

Interesting that I hadn’t really considered the subtraction of Trump votes when trying to get my arms around what happened that changed an outcome which seemed inevitable, obvious, when measured against the reality of massive crowds of Trump supporters at rallies, and lining highways and boulevards and waterways across America, red and blue states.

On the other side there was Biden. No excitement or enthusiasm for Biden. Zero. None. It was a pathetic campaign.

So, now another piece falls into place for me. The art of the steal. Addition of Biden votes (dead people); subtraction of Trump votes (disappearing ballots); reversing or switching Trump votes for Biden votes with aid of machines and computers; dem officials pre canvassing voters to cure spoiled ballots – only of democrats, not republicans.

This can’t be exhaustive. I know a democrat that would casually murder someone for their ballot and then sit in their dining room and eat their food while marking down ‘Biden’.

I’ve said it before, and now again. Leftist democrats are the scum that scum scrapes off its shoes.
Follow up article: https://centipedenation.com/transmissions/bombshell-anon-crunches-voter-data-discovers-election-software-dominion-producing-massive-fraud/ (https://centipedenation.com/transmissions/bombshell-anon-crunches-voter-data-discovers-election-software-dominion-producing-massive-fraud/)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 05:42:04 pm
Follow up article: https://centipedenation.com/transmissions/bombshell-anon-crunches-voter-data-discovers-election-software-dominion-producing-massive-fraud/ (https://centipedenation.com/transmissions/bombshell-anon-crunches-voter-data-discovers-election-software-dominion-producing-massive-fraud/)

Every switched vote they correct comes from Biden to Trump.  That means it's a two-vote swing, multiplied by 10s of thousands.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 12, 2020, 06:27:33 pm
Every switched vote they correct comes from Biden to Trump.  That means it's a two-vote swing, multiplied by 10s of thousands.
With the exception of votes which were shunted to Jorgenson or simply discarded. The discard rate may have been high enough to provide 'insurance' in the event the switching was found, keeping Trump totals still below Biden. If that is the case, that that many Trump votes were thrown out by the software (or whoever) that's a pretty clear indicator of how thoroughly this was a planned coup attempt.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 06:51:24 pm
With the exception of votes which were shunted to Jorgenson or simply discarded. The discard rate may have been high enough to provide 'insurance' in the event the switching was found, keeping Trump totals still below Biden. If that is the case, that that many Trump votes were thrown out by the software (or whoever) that's a pretty clear indicator of how thoroughly this was a planned coup attempt.

Very true, which is why I specified "switched."   happy77
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 12, 2020, 06:52:51 pm
Very true, which is why I specified "switched."   happy77
Yep. I'm just pointing out that discard rates as high as PA's might provide the buffering margin Biden needs even if the votes are switched back.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 07:05:24 pm
Yep. I'm just pointing out that discard rates as high as PA's might provide the buffering margin Biden needs even if the votes are switched back.

And that depends on exactly where the discard occurred.  If it was the Dominion software rejecting the ballots, that can be repaired by a full machine recount after the hooks in the software that caused the votes to be discarded are removed.  Auditors have identified the flaws, one of them involving use of "similar" concatenations of alphanumeric strings.  For example, calling an "l" an "I" or a "1."  Another example:  Switching a "O" to a "0."  That will identify a ballot with "Donald J Trump," "Dona1d J Trump."  It sees it as a mismatch and throws out the Trump vote. 

The correct paper ballot still exists, and will go back to being a Trump vote after the software is fixed and the ballots are recounted.  And they will be.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 12, 2020, 07:19:44 pm
And that depends on exactly where the discard occurred.  If it was the Dominion software rejecting the ballots, that can be repaired by a full machine recount after the hooks in the software that caused the votes to be discarded are removed.  Auditors have identified the flaws, one of them involving use of "similar" concatenations of alphanumeric strings.  For example, calling an "l" an "I" or a "1."  Another example:  Switching a "O" to a "0."  That will identify a ballot with "Donald J Trump," "Dona1d J Trump."  It sees it as a mismatch and throws out the Trump vote. 

The correct paper ballot still exists, and will go back to being a Trump vote after the software is fixed and the ballots are recounted.  And they will be.

People need to start checking the dumpsters and landfills before this gets buried...
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 07:48:51 pm
People need to start checking the dumpsters and landfills before this gets buried...

Unfortunately, votes found in a dumpster cannot be counted.  No chain of evidence exists to make them valid.  :shrug:
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 12, 2020, 07:56:12 pm
Unfortunately, votes found in a dumpster cannot be counted.  No chain of evidence exists to make them valid.  :shrug:
I was thinking more that it would be evidence of votes that were not counted and discarded to avoid a recount.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 08:02:23 pm
I was thinking more that it would be evidence of votes that were not counted and discarded to avoid a recount.

Not really, for the same reason they can't be counted.  Chain of evidence.  A Trump supporter could conceivably be the one who stuffed the Dumpster....
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 12, 2020, 08:06:38 pm
Not really, for the same reason they can't be counted.  Chain of evidence.  A Trump supporter could conceivably be the one who stuffed the Dumpster....
That depends on supporting evidence--any witnesses, video cameras, and the number of the ballots discarded. Site security might limit access, too. Aren't ballots indexed with code of some sort which indicates whether they are legit?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 12, 2020, 08:18:40 pm
Quote
Jack Posobiec Flag of United States
@JackPosobiec
Today’s PA court ruling is significant not because of the amount of ballots it affects but because it sets the legal precedent that PA’s Secretary of State did not have statutory authority to override election law. Neither did PA Supreme Court. Only legislature.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmpSlI5XUAM1tMW?format=jpg&name=small)

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1326977119696502785
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 08:18:59 pm
That depends on supporting evidence--any witnesses, video cameras, and the number of the ballots discarded. Site security might limit access, too. Aren't ballots indexed with code of some sort which indicates whether they are legit?

I saw a Conspiracy theory that said ballots were printed with an invisible "watermark" that proved the provenience of real ballots, but I don't buy CTs.  The ballots themselves are not serialized, they can't be in order to protect the secret ballots.  And, any other identifying marks can simply be copied along with the rest of the ballots.

I suppose microprinting, like that used on currency, could work.  People can't see them, but a good optical scanner can.  The problem with that would be the cost of printing ballots would necessarily skyrocket beyond the means of the several (50) states. 
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: skeeter on November 12, 2020, 08:20:43 pm
I saw a Conspiracy theory that said ballots were printed with an invisible "watermark" that proved the provenience of real ballots, but I don't buy CTs.  The ballots themselves are not serialized, they can't be in order to protect the secret ballots.  And, any other identifying marks can simply be copied along with the rest of the ballots.

I suppose microprinting, like that used on currency, could work.  People can't see them, but a good optical scanner can.  The problem with that would be the cost of printing ballots would necessarily skyrocket beyond the means of the several (50) states.
Don't the individual states print their own ballots, and if they do, who is typically in charge of that process?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 08:21:04 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmpSlI5XUAM1tMW?format=jpg&name=small)

Do you have a link to that Tweet?
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 08:23:03 pm
Don't the individual states print their own ballots, and if they do, who is typically in charge of that process?

The Secretaries of State for the states, or a designated Agency, like a Bureau of Elections.  And yes, the states would be on the tab for the cost.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 12, 2020, 08:23:36 pm
Do you have a link to that Tweet?

Sorry I forget to include it in my post @Cyber Liberty

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1326977119696502785
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 08:24:58 pm
Sorry I forget to include it in my post @Cyber Liberty

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1326977119696502785

Gotcha.  "Blue Check," so the tweet is legit.

 888high58888 Score!!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 12, 2020, 08:27:17 pm
Gotcha.  "Blue Check," so the tweet is legit.

 888high58888 Score!!

I have a STRONG feeling that we are going to see similar things in other states as well soon.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 08:39:16 pm
I have a STRONG feeling that we are going to see similar things in other states as well soon.

Isn't his one just a reiteration of Alito's order from the SCOTUS?  If they're willing to ignore a SCOTUS order, ignoring an order from the PA Supremes would be child's play.  Call me a cynic.  333cleo 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Victoria33 on November 12, 2020, 08:40:40 pm


"All we really have to do is get shoulder to  shoulder,along with battery-powered grinders to cut the bars in the fences,and march into the WH  to stop it."

You will be shot/killed.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mystery-ak on November 12, 2020, 08:46:42 pm
Pa. appellate court sides with Trump in fight over ID deadlines for voters, tossing small number of ballots
https://fusion.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania-election-trump-lawsuits-legal-challenves-id-mail-ballots-commonwealth-court-20201112.html
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 08:47:08 pm

"All we really have to do is get shoulder to  shoulder,along with battery-powered grinders to cut the bars in the fences,and march into the WH  to stop it."

You will be shot/killed.

CORRECT!!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 08:48:08 pm
Pa. appellate court sides with Trump in fight over ID deadlines for voters, tossing small number of ballots
https://fusion.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania-election-trump-lawsuits-legal-challenves-id-mail-ballots-commonwealth-court-20201112.html

"Small" my azz!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 12, 2020, 08:49:58 pm
Quote

Tracy Beanz
@tracybeanz
Stunning: Democrat Groups Affidavits Prove Presidents Case in PA

https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1326981600689602561

This may be even bigger!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 12, 2020, 11:01:48 pm

"All we really have to do is get shoulder to  shoulder,along with battery-powered grinders to cut the bars in the fences,and march into the WH  to stop it."

You will be shot/killed.

@Victoria33

Not if we are unarmed. Or at least not shot by the "badges" if we are unarmed.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 11:11:36 pm
@Victoria33

Not if we are unarmed. Or at least not shot by the "badges" if we are unarmed.

Yes, if you are "disarmed."  the SS doesn't buy into that "Cop shoots unarmed man" bullshit.  If you are there after being ordered off the property, they'll assume you are a threat to the President even if you are stark naked.  Bang!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 12, 2020, 11:28:14 pm
Yes, if you are "disarmed."  the SS doesn't buy into that "Cop shoots unarmed man" bullshit.  If you are there after being ordered off the property, they'll assume you are a threat to the President even if you are stark naked.  Bang!

@Cyber Liberty

WRONG!

Their job is not to fight gunbattles or to attack trespassers.

Their job is to protect the President,and they will do this by removing him from any area where they consider him to be in danger.

The best way to make sure your principle survives a gun fight is to make sure he is never where one is happening.

Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 12, 2020, 11:36:02 pm
@Cyber Liberty

WRONG!

Their job is not to fight gunbattles or to attack trespassers.

Their job is to protect the President,and they will do this by removing him from any area where they consider him to be in danger.

The best way to make sure your principle survives a gun fight is to make sure he is never where one is happening.

I don't require your approval on this.  Just try it.  These are people who burn the President's poop to keep anybody from gleaning his DNA.  An intruder could be armed with a deadly virus.  These are the things they "war game" out.  This is no longer the world it was when you were in SF.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 13, 2020, 12:30:56 am
I don't require your approval on this.  Just try it.  These are people who burn the President's poop to keep anybody from gleaning his DNA.  An intruder could be armed with a deadly virus.  These are the things they "war game" out.  This is no longer the world it was when you were in SF.

@Cyber Liberty

None of which has any relation at all to what I stated to be their prime concern.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 13, 2020, 12:59:15 am
@Cyber Liberty

None of which has any relation at all to what I stated to be their prime concern.

I don't think "letting the President die" is in their Charter.   :whistle:
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 13, 2020, 03:37:47 am
I don't think "letting the President die" is in their Charter.   :whistle:

@Cyber Liberty

Which is why the first thing they do is remove him from the area and put him in a secure place where no one can get to him.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 13, 2020, 03:43:47 am
@Cyber Liberty

Which is why the first thing they do is remove him from the area and put him in a secure place where no one can get to him.

Look, my point is the SS is to protect the President from ALL threats.  That is a much larger scope than bullets, bombs and knives.  There's poison, and biological agents to watch for, and even a naked person is rightly considered a threat if they are in the White House unauthorized. 

Use your imagination....
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: DCPatriot on November 13, 2020, 04:06:21 am
To explain the fact that GOP House seats have increased in States which have been supposedly 'won' by Biden...is it possible that millions of voters just voted for the President and left the rest of the ballot blank?   :shrug:

The fact that social media conducted such a "get out the vote" campaign, and that college students couldn't name their own Congressional representative and/or Senator may explain this phenomenon. 
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 13, 2020, 09:01:21 am
Look, my point is the SS is to protect the President from ALL threats.  That is a much larger scope than bullets, bombs and knives.  There's poison, and biological agents to watch for, and even a naked person is rightly considered a threat if they are in the White House unauthorized. 

Use your imagination....

@Cyber Liberty

If you think I disagree with that,you have somehow misunderstood something I wrote.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 13, 2020, 12:46:30 pm
https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems (https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: deb on November 13, 2020, 01:03:14 pm
https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems (https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems)

Curiouser and curiouser.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: bigheadfred on November 13, 2020, 01:28:41 pm
https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems (https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems)

I've said it for years. Vote in person on a paper ballot with a legal ID. I get it some people can't do all of that. But I maintain you plan your busy schedule around your vote. Because it IS YOUR LIFE you are betting on.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 13, 2020, 01:36:21 pm
https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems (https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems)

Very interesting information @Smokin Joe thanks for digging that up!
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 13, 2020, 01:42:11 pm
https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems (https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems)

@Smokin Joe

With those connections to Soros,Oboma,and Clinton,they should be barred from doing business with the government.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: sneakypete on November 13, 2020, 01:45:06 pm
I've said it for years. Vote in person on a paper ballot with a legal ID. I get it some people can't do all of that. But I maintain you plan your busy schedule around your vote. Because it IS YOUR LIFE you are betting on.

@bigheadfred

Fred,the truth is someone so handicapped they have difficulty voting in person is someone who has all day to go to the polls,cast a vote,and come back home. They even have people hired by the government that will help them do this.

As for the people who are mentally handicapped,they have no business voting to start with.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 13, 2020, 01:50:26 pm
@Cyber Liberty

If you think I disagree with that,you have somehow misunderstood something I wrote.

That has to be it.  I think I know you well enough to know the thing got cross-threaded.   :patriot:
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 13, 2020, 02:26:24 pm
@bigheadfred

Fred,the truth is someone so handicapped they have difficulty voting in person is someone who has all day to go to the polls,cast a vote,and come back home. They even have people hired by the government that will help them do this.

As for the people who are mentally handicapped,they have no business voting to start with.
Well, that leaves all the Leftists out. :whistle:
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 13, 2020, 02:45:27 pm
https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems (https://freepressers.com/articles/who-are-the-stakeholders-in-dominion-voting-systems)
Rising serpent  @rising_serpent
Understand the gravity of what is being said here.
Eric Coomer of Dominion voting systems, a guy who holds multiple patents on voting machines, is an anti-Trump Antifa sympathizer.  And his name is being scrubbed from the Dominion database. https://twitter.com/JoeOltmann/status/1326925274789908480
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8:18 PM · Nov 12, 2020


https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1327058176366227462
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Bigun on November 13, 2020, 02:50:03 pm
Rising serpent  @rising_serpent
Understand the gravity of what is being said here.
Eric Coomer of Dominion voting systems, a guy who holds multiple patents on voting machines, is an anti-Trump Antifa sympathizer.  And his name is being scrubbed from the Dominion database. https://twitter.com/JoeOltmann/status/1326925274789908480
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8:18 PM · Nov 12, 2020


https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1327058176366227462

Thanks @mountaineer
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 13, 2020, 02:50:22 pm
Rising serpent  @rising_serpent
Understand the gravity of what is being said here.
Eric Coomer of Dominion voting systems, a guy who holds multiple patents on voting machines, is an anti-Trump Antifa sympathizer.  And his name is being scrubbed from the Dominion database. https://twitter.com/JoeOltmann/status/1326925274789908480
This Tweet is unavailable.
8:18 PM · Nov 12, 2020


https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1327058176366227462

It appears this tweet got the account cancelled. :shrug:
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 13, 2020, 03:48:15 pm
Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and SECURITY Eric Coomer Admitted in 2016 Vendors and Election Officials Have Access to Manipulate the Vote
By Jim Hoft
Published November 13, 2020 at 7:55am
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(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/eric-coomer--600x392.jpg)
Dr. Eric Coomer who is responsible for the strategy and
 Security of Dominion Voting Systems at Dominion Voting Systems
.

But if you search the company’s profile Eric Coomer has since been removed from their page of directors.

In 2016 Coomer told the Illinois States Board of Elections that it was possible to bypass election systems software. ...
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    Dr. Coomer’s statement brings to light a very serious issue all voters should understand. Voting systems must be re-certified each time they make changes to the hardware or software. Recertification is an expensive and time consuming process. What Dr. Coomer told the Board is that Dominion Voting does not go back for recertification of software when threats to their code are discovered. Rather, they rely on post-election audits and providing advice to election jurisdictions about security. I have reviewed all of the recertification documents produced by Dominion, and I do not recall any software adjustments for security purposes.

    This is the reality of the security of your vote. Software systems that count and record the vote across Illinois and throughout the USA are not updated to address security problems, and even if they were, the software can be completely bypassed by going to the data tables that drive the systems.
...
More at Gateway Pundit (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/dominion-voting-systems-officer-strategy-security-eric-coomer-admitted-2016-vendors-election-officials-access-manipulate-vote/)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 13, 2020, 03:49:40 pm
More from Gateway Pundit (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-trump-tweets-report-dominion-deleted-2-7-million-trump-votes-nationwide-data-analysis-finds-221000-pennsylvania-votes-switched-president-trump-biden/):
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BOOM! TRUMP TWEETS: REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN
By Jim Hoft
Published November 12, 2020 at 10:49am  ...
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: mountaineer on November 13, 2020, 03:58:57 pm
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... Entrepreneur Joe Oltmann researched the Dominion Voting Systems this week after news broke on the unexplained computer “glitches” that mysteriously took votes from President Trump in many states and gave those votes to Joe Biden or erased the votes completely.

Joe Oltmann decided to investigate Dr. Eric Coomer who is responsible for the strategy and Security of Dominion Voting Systems.

Oltmann discovered many Anti-Trump posts on Facebook and Twitter, posted by Dr. Eric Coomer. He also found out connections between the Clinton Foundation and Dr. Eric Coomer.

After uploading evidence on his Twitter account, Joe Oltmann’s account was suspended last night. It is very suspicious that Twitter would remove an account that was investigating Dr. Coomer, his far-left background, and his role at Dominion.  ...
More (https://dailyrednews.com/busted-dominion-voting-systems-officer-of-strategy-and-security-dr-eric-coomer-admitted-that-election-officials-have-access-to-manipulate-the-vote/)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: catfish1957 on November 13, 2020, 04:03:53 pm
More (https://dailyrednews.com/busted-dominion-voting-systems-officer-of-strategy-and-security-dr-eric-coomer-admitted-that-election-officials-have-access-to-manipulate-the-vote/)

A lot of dots to connect in such a short period of time.  One thing is for sure, if the GOP can retain the senate, Election reform needs to be out there front and center.
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 13, 2020, 11:55:08 pm
https://conservative-daily.com/2020/11/10/unbelievable-glitches-in-election-systems-may-have-changed-results/ (https://conservative-daily.com/2020/11/10/unbelievable-glitches-in-election-systems-may-have-changed-results/)
Title: Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 13, 2020, 11:59:42 pm
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=Hrb6YoNBxe0&app=desktop#)

Colbeck explains Michigan voter fraud.