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Title: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: mystery-ak on March 23, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
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Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Saturday, March 22, 2014 06:06 PM

By: Todd Beamon

Hillary Clinton's strongest suit heading into a possible 2016 presidential contest is that if she's elected, she'd be the nation's first female chief executive, according to a new Gallup survey.

Eighteen percent — nearly one in five of the 1,024 adults polled March 15-16 — told Gallup that the possibility of Clinton, 66, becoming the first female president was her most positive attribute.

That was followed by the former Secretary of State's overall experience, including her background in foreign policy, which was most attractive to 9 percent of those surveyed.

"Americans mention a number of other positives dealing with her personal characteristics — including her experience, and the perception that she is capable, qualified, and intelligent," Gallup said in its analysis of the survey results.

In addition, 2 percent of the respondents said that "a positive outcome of a Hillary Clinton presidency would be that Bill Clinton would be back in the White House," the organization said.

"Americans also indicate as a positive feature of a potential Clinton presidency the change it would provide from the Obama and Bush administrations, and, separately, that it would continue a Democratic agenda and platform," Gallup added.

The strongest factor working against Clinton is that she is not qualified for the White House — an opinion held by only 6 percent of the Gallup respondents.

That was followed by 4 percent who said that they would not want a female president. Just 2 percent cited Clinton's handling of the Benghazi attacks in which four Americans died in 2012 as a factor working against her for 2016.

"Americans' views of the possible negatives that would be associated with a Hillary Clinton presidency are more diverse than the positive responses," Gallup said. "No one single issue dominates to the degree that her being the first woman president does on the plus side."

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: EC on March 23, 2014, 12:56:27 pm
I know you are not supposed to bug God with minor shit - but Lord, please let her run.

Between Benghazi, her age, her feminist credentials (that's none), her frankly shrill and unlikeable person, the liking of her husband in core demographics not transferring over to her, and her dress sense - she hasn't got a chance.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: kevindavis007 on March 23, 2014, 01:02:36 pm
I know you are not supposed to bug God with minor shit - but Lord, please let her run.

Between Benghazi, her age, her feminist credentials (that's none), her frankly shrill and unlikeable person, the liking of her husband in core demographics not transferring over to her, and her dress sense - she hasn't got a chance.


Also I'm going to ask what the hell has she accomplished as a Senator and Secretary of State...
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Howie66 on March 23, 2014, 01:16:21 pm
I also want to see Her Thighness waddle for POTUS in 2016. In addition, the longer that she holds her tongue on making her announcement, the more damage/problems it causes for other RATs that might think about running.

Now, if we can just get those nitwits in the GOP Establishment to get off the Cristie and/or Bush nonsense.....
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: EC on March 23, 2014, 01:35:05 pm

Also I'm going to ask what the hell has she accomplished as a Senator and Secretary of State...

Not avalid question any more. What did Obama accomplish?
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 23, 2014, 01:46:49 pm
I know you are not supposed to bug God with minor shit - but Lord, please let her run.

Between Benghazi, her age, her feminist credentials (that's none), her frankly shrill and unlikeable person, the liking of her husband in core demographics not transferring over to her, and her dress sense - she hasn't got a chance.

See the polls I just posted. She is beating the snot out of everybody because she is a woman.

So I kindly suggest we look at top conservative females for 2016. Like it or not, no matter how libertarian or conservative or stuck in their ideals someone is. We need a female. The ones who cry foul saying we should not cower to any token person; need to practice saying, President Clinton. <---- :3:
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: kevindavis007 on March 23, 2014, 01:49:15 pm
See the polls I just posted. She is beating the snot out of everybody because she is a woman.

So I kindly suggest we look at top conservative females for 2016. Like it or not, no matter how libertarian or conservative or stuck in their ideals someone is. We need a female. The ones who cry foul saying we should not cower to any token person; need to practice saying, President Clinton. <---- :3:


Polls for President mean squat at this juncture.  Also the far left is does not like the Clintons..
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 01:53:20 pm
See the polls I just posted. She is beating the snot out of everybody because she is a woman.

So I kindly suggest we look at top conservative females for 2016. Like it or not, no matter how libertarian or conservative or stuck in their ideals someone is. We need a female. The ones who cry foul saying we should not cower to any token person; need to practice saying, President Clinton. <---- :3:

Not so fast...I am not convinced that the Hildebeest will survive the primaries.  As soon as she runs, you will see a veterans group arise to oppose her that will make what the Swift Boat Vets did to John Fing Kerry (D. Viet.) look like a birthday party.  There is no way the Hildebeest escapes responsibility for Benghazi, the Arab Spring, Syrian Civil War, Ukraine, Crimea and any other number of disastrous foreign policy decisions on her watch.

We'll see, but as a veteran I already have cash set aside to send to such a group as soon as they stand up to oppose her, and they will.

 :smokin:
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 23, 2014, 01:53:48 pm

Polls for President mean squat at this juncture.  Also the far left is does not like the Clintons..

I am not going to deny polls of today. See what that did all along in 2008. The fact is christie was beating Clinton until he stopped traffic and this morning his aids are asking for immunity. If the far left does not like the Clinton's; then why is she in double digits in their polled primaries? To deny any of this even at this juncture will leave us with Bush v. Clinton and Bush won't win.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 23, 2014, 02:00:21 pm
Not so fast...I am not convinced that the Hildebeest will survive the primaries.  As soon as she runs, you will see a veterans group arise to oppose her that will make what the Swift Boat Vets did to John Fing Kerry (D. Viet.) look like a birthday party.  There is no way the Hildebeest escapes responsibility for Benghazi, the Arab Spring, Syrian Civil War, Ukraine, Crimea and any other number of disastrous foreign policy decisions on her watch.

We'll see, but as a veteran I already have cash set aside to send to such a group as soon as they stand up to oppose her, and they will.

 :smokin:

This PLUS us having a stronger candidate in the field, running will help. I wish I had your outlook, I really do. But the witch feels it is owed to her she will lie,cheat,steal,kill for the win. Plus she literally bought Obama's get out the dead people vote machine.

We need more people like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis) running. Or a strong female candidate. The current crop in the running, no matter how great they sound are not going to cut it.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Howie66 on March 23, 2014, 02:05:21 pm
This PLUS us having a stronger candidate in the field, running will help. I wish I had your outlook, I really do. But the witch feels it is owed to her she will lie,cheat,steal,kill for the win. Plus she literally bought Obama's get out the dead people vote machine.

We need more people like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis) running. Or a strong female candidate. The current crop in the running, no matter how great they sound are not going to cut it.

I think that those that are fixated on 2016 do so because they are looking past the general election this fall.

We really need to keep our focus on 2014 and not worry about the next one.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 23, 2014, 02:05:56 pm
Let me try to put it another way. America in general does not pay attention to Benghazi. They will vote for her because she is a woman that they remember- wants to break the glass ceiling and be historic. They will be stupid enough to think a vote for Hillary will get them the economy we had under her husband.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Chieftain on March 23, 2014, 02:16:12 pm
I think that those that are fixated on 2016 do so because they are looking past the general election this fall.

We really need to keep our focus on 2014 and not worry about the next one.

Exactly right and I agree completely.  The results of this mid-term are going to set the stage for the 2016 race in a very big way.  It is vital to concentrate on the Congressional elections now.

Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 23, 2014, 02:17:12 pm
I think that those that are fixated on 2016 do so because they are looking past the general election this fall.

We really need to keep our focus on 2014 and not worry about the next one.

Let's hope 2014 does not go the the republicans heads and they appoint Bush as the nominee (See McCain/Romney). Bush is to campaign for Ayotte this week. He is the establishments man.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Oceander on March 23, 2014, 02:42:02 pm
Clinton's only selling point, and even that's debatable.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: mystery-ak on March 23, 2014, 02:46:47 pm
*First black president* worked for Obama...*First female president* may work for Hilary..never under-estimate the Clinton machine...
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 23, 2014, 02:54:42 pm
*First black president* worked for Obama...*First female president* may work for Hilary..never under-estimate the Clinton machine...

Completely, sadly, pathetic but true. I really do fear not only a Paul v. those Iowa Huckabee lovers split. I fear the Paul libertarians will not go for anyone else. There are no females in the running on our side at this stage and we need to get some.

Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: PzLdr on March 23, 2014, 03:01:57 pm
Seems we haven't learned from the debacle that is the current administration. Identity politics are going to destroy us.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 23, 2014, 07:15:05 pm
I wonder if there are people out there that would not vote for a woman candidate on the republican side of things?
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: EC on March 23, 2014, 07:58:35 pm
I wonder if there are people out there that would not vote for a woman candidate on the republican side of things?

Of course there are, and you can name them after an hour or so at TOS. There are people who wouldn't vote for a clone of Reagan without permission.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Fishrrman on March 24, 2014, 03:15:20 am
Article title:
[[ Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President ]]

Well, there's only one way to defuse that, to take it right off the table.

And we all know what (and who) that is...
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: mountaineer on March 24, 2014, 01:49:52 pm
Hillary Clinton guilt tripped about 2016 presidential bid
By/Jake Miller/CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-guilt-tripped-about-2016-presidential-bid/)/March 23, 2014, 10:20 AM

Quote
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has dodged some version of the question countless times before, but that didn't stop a young woman from asking - and laying on a guilt trip, to boot.

"Mrs. Clinton, if you don't represent women in politics in America as future president, who will?" she asked during a Saturday meeting of the Clinton Global Initiative University in Tempe, Ariz., according to the Wall Street Journal.

Talk-show host Jimmy Kimmel, who was presiding over the discussion, jumped in: "To add to that, when you do run for president will you use the old Clinton campaign lawn signs?"

Mrs. Clinton, who was joined onstage by her daughter Chelsea and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, didn't bite.

"Look, I am very much concerned about the direction of our country. And it's not just who runs for office, but what they do when they get there," she said. "I'm obviously thinking about all kinds of decisions."

Mrs. Clinton, also a former senator and first lady, has said she's considering another bid for the presidency, and that she'll make a decision one way or another later this year.

Kimmel also asked Mrs. Clinton, who is 66, whether she and Mr. Clinton will have another child.

"Well, no, but I wouldn't mind one of those grandchildren I hear so much about," she said.

Chelsea Clinton joked about her mom's "unapologetic pressure, in public and private."
:2barf:
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 24, 2014, 01:54:10 pm
Hillary Clinton guilt tripped about 2016 presidential bid
By/Jake Miller/CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-guilt-tripped-about-2016-presidential-bid/)/March 23, 2014, 10:20 AM
 :2barf:


They were on the newly appointed state run media late night talk show? That is sickening beyond words.

 :3:

We need to run a smart, conservative black woman for the win, Alex.

And to those that say we don't need to do token ID politics, practice saying MADAME HILLARY.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: happyg on March 24, 2014, 01:59:06 pm
Quote
Mrs. Clinton, if you don't represent women in politics in America as future president, who will?"

She is the last person I would want to represent me as a woman. She represents the degradation of women.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: mountaineer on March 24, 2014, 02:02:31 pm
She is the last person I would want to represent me as a woman. She represents the degradation of women.
Most of us women would rather make it on our own, rather than as the big-hipped appendage of a lying, cheating man.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 24, 2014, 02:21:39 pm
POLITICO is doing a huge hit piece on Rand Paul. They will only allow progressive communism Hillary Clinton. It is such a disgusting hit piece I don't want to credit the article with it's own thread. The media is the enemy. The GOP establishment is the enemy. The democrats are the enemy.

Ready for Rand? - Kevin D. Williamson - POLITICO Magazine
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/rand-paul-america-hates-liberterians-104858.html?ml=po_r#.UzA-Cnys9AM (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/rand-paul-america-hates-liberterians-104858.html?ml=po_r#.UzA-Cnys9AM)
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: happyg on March 24, 2014, 02:30:33 pm
POLITICO is doing a huge hit piece on Rand Paul. They will only allow progressive communism Hillary Clinton. It is such a disgusting hit piece I don't want to credit the article with it's own thread. The media is the enemy. The GOP establishment is the enemy. The democrats are the enemy.

Ready for Rand? - Kevin D. Williamson - POLITICO Magazine[/b]
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/rand-paul-america-hates-liberterians-104858.html?ml=po_r#.UzA-Cnys9AM (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/rand-paul-america-hates-liberterians-104858.html?ml=po_r#.UzA-Cnys9AM)

The guy has no clue. I was surprised at this: Kevin D. Williamson is roving correspondent for National Review and author, most recently, of The End Is Near and It’s Going To Be Awesome.

Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: rustynail on March 24, 2014, 02:35:10 pm
'First Female President' should be a little better looking.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: happyg on March 24, 2014, 02:35:22 pm
The guy has no clue. I was surprised at this: Kevin D. Williamson is roving correspondent for National Review and author, most recently, of The End Is Near and It’s Going To Be Awesome.



Here is another of his articles in Nat. Revue: Why Rand Matters: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/371482/why-rand-paul-matters-kevin-d-williamson (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/371482/why-rand-paul-matters-kevin-d-williamson)
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 24, 2014, 02:44:00 pm
The guy has no clue. I was surprised at this: Kevin D. Williamson is roving correspondent for National Review and author, most recently, of The End Is Near and It’s Going To Be Awesome.



Was his 'end is near,' a mockery? Odd that he says Paul matters then the hit piece. Sarcasm and the POLITICO didn't get it? I'd have to read both articles all the way through.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: DCPatriot on March 24, 2014, 02:45:51 pm
Was his 'end is near,' a mockery? Odd that he says Paul matters then the hit piece. Sarcasm and the POLITICO didn't get it? I'd have to read both articles all the way through.

That should qualify you for a Purple Heart.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: Gazoo on March 24, 2014, 02:50:25 pm
'First Female President' should be a little better looking.

and not a fat middle-aged lying POS.
Title: Re: Clinton's Top Selling Point in 2016: First Female President
Post by: happyg on March 24, 2014, 02:53:57 pm
Was his 'end is near,' a mockery? Odd that he says Paul matters then the hit piece. Sarcasm and the POLITICO didn't get it? I'd have to read both articles all the way through.

Politico got it. National Review isn't exactly pro Rand.