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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: sinkspur on May 02, 2016, 07:09:06 pm
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Ted Cruz confronts Trump supporter in Indiana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tdm4UfdoEI
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The press should interview this Trumpkin next year when Hillary and Schumer pass amnesty.
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Ted Cruz confronts Trump supporter in Indiana
Great video. This demonstrates tremendous courage. It reminds me of the last time Trump and Hillary spoke openly with someone from the opposition like this.
Oh, wait...
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That is a typical Trump supporter. Cruz was magnificent.
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Contrast Cruz's calm demeanor with Trump's orange-faced yelling and screaming and gesticulating.
The devotion to Trump is to the MAN, not to anything he stands for.
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Ted Cruz confronts Trump supporter in Indiana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tdm4UfdoEI
Poor guy never stood a chance against Cruz.
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He's a class act. :patriot:
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Good God. That video only demonstrates how far we have fallen. You would think that such displays of ignorance wouldn't be so breathtaking but in my case it is. I'm embarrassed for our country. And to the Trump supporters do you wonder why those who don't support Trump consider those that do to be nothing more than a mob? I get that not every voter is a die-hard political animal with facts and statistics at their fingertips (it's why we've coined the acronym LIV) but this video just demonstrates the lack of the most basic attributes like logic and reason.
The fact is the entire country has shifted left and along with that is a loss of these attributes even from those who we would call, in the most generic of senses, on our side. There is a danger here. And the 'smart' Trump supporters who think they are using the mob i.e., LIV's, Reagan democrats, the non-political first-timers for their own ends will find that even if they succeed they will have failed.
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Ted Cruz confronts Trump supporter in Indiana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tdm4UfdoEI
So....the idiot actually yelled out "Lyin' Ted!" at random and asked where Cruz's Goldman Sachs jacket was.
Ted's willingness and ability to engage opponents is admirable, but it's not possible to reason with such people. Their rabid hero worship has made them immune to anything except Trump pronouncements.
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Ted Cruz confronts Trump supporter in Indiana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tdm4UfdoEI
Every time I see an uneducated Trump supporter like this I was to gag. These are the type of brainwashed people that have no clue, but sway the vote for one of the most important offices in the country. This is the inbred mentality our liberals have instilled in our education system to perpetuate stupidity and elect the likes of Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Make me sick.
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Really made the dude look like Al Bundy. Kept shoving the Trump sign in Cruz's face. Kept shifting back and forth.
Kept saying 'Donald Trump'. Will give the guy credit for hitting Ted on 'Goldman Sachs' but that is about it. Ted's response to that should be Donald has been more than owned by the Banks/Saudi Prince for the various bankruptcies over The Plaza hotel and Atlantic City..
All in for Cruz through the convention, but being aligned with emotive folks like this is depressing.
Thanks sinkspur. I almost felt sorry for the guy. He appeared incredibly uninformed, but if one is that informed and chooses to disrupt a rally, one deserves to be shown to be a fool on national television.
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If the shoe were on the other foot and I was in a discussion with Hillary, I would not shove a sign in her face.
I would ask about her role in getting off a rape offender in the 1970s and then bragging about. Or Susan Wright and the intimation of Broaderick , Sally Perdue and Kathleen Willey. The detectives the brutal intimidation .
Cattle futures scandal, whitewater, Vince foster. Etc
Good God. That video only demonstrates how far we have fallen. You would think that such displays of ignorance wouldn't be so breathtaking but in my case it is. I'm embarrassed for our country. And to the Trump supporters do you wonder why those who don't support Trump consider those that do to be nothing more than a mob? I get that not every voter is a die-hard political animal with facts and statistics at their fingertips (it's why we've coined the acronym LIV) but this video just demonstrates the lack of the most basic attributes like logic and reason.
The fact is the entire country has shifted left and along with that is a loss of these attributes even from those who we would call, in the most generic of senses, on our side. There is a danger here. And the 'smart' Trump supporters who think they are using the mob i.e., LIV's, Reagan democrats, the non-political first-timers for their own ends will find that even if they succeed they will have failed.
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Note he keeps his shades on so he does not have to look Ted in the eye.
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Good God. That video only demonstrates how far we have fallen. You would think that such displays of ignorance wouldn't be so breathtaking but in my case it is. I'm embarrassed for our country. And to the Trump supporters do you wonder why those who don't support Trump consider those that do to be nothing more than a mob? I get that not every voter is a die-hard political animal with facts and statistics at their fingertips (it's why we've coined the acronym LIV) but this video just demonstrates the lack of the most basic attributes like logic and reason.
The fact is the entire country has shifted left and along with that is a loss of these attributes even from those who we would call, in the most generic of senses, on our side. There is a danger here. And the 'smart' Trump supporters who think they are using the mob i.e., LIV's, Reagan democrats, the non-political first-timers for their own ends will find that even if they succeed they will have failed.
There's a bit more here at which you hint, but which I will spell out:
This Trumpette (and the others in the background) is using standard libtard tactics. While being confronted with a reasonable dialogue, he instead yells insults and attempts to drown out reasonable conversation. He sticks to false memes and thinks that by yelling them more loudly, they gain credibility.
Now, think of the leftists on the university campuses that think the only way to engage conservatives is to drown them out, protest them, and run them off. This a$$hat, with sign in hand, is acting in the exact same way. I see very little difference between the Trump crowd and the leftists (ex. "If anyone throws a tomato, beat the crap out of them" vs "Muscle! I need some muscle over here!")
This is what we are allowing the conservative movement to become. It would be hysterical if it weren't so sad. The Trumpettes think they are railing against the "uniparty" but their people act with more homogeneity with the lefties that they might as well just join them.
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If the shoe were on the other foot and I was in a discussion with Hillary, I would not shove a sign in her face.
I would ask about her role in getting off a rape offender in the 1970s and then bragging about. Or Susan Wright and the intimation of Broaderick , Sally Perdue and Kathleen Willey. The detectives the brutal intimidation .
Cattle futures scandal, whitewater, Vince foster. Etc
...and Secret Service would wrestle you to the floor, hold you in a darkened cell for weeks with no due process, only so you could come out and get an anal-probe style tax audit.
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Perhaps. So that is part of how Hillary gets a pass.
Hillary is no more a president than Cruz. Do you think the Trump supporter with the sign will be getting audited....
...and Secret Service would wrestle you to the floor, hold you in a darkened cell for weeks with no due process, only so you could come out and get an anal-probe style tax audit.
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For that matter, the guy with sign was in Ted's face with the sign. Far more threatening than 'speech'. The SS did nothing.
So are you saying that the SS agents are more for protecting the left against unpleasant speech?
Interesting.
...and Secret Service would wrestle you to the floor, hold you in a darkened cell for weeks with no due process, only so you could come out and get an anal-probe style tax audit.
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This Trumpette (and the others in the background) is using standard libtard tactics. While being confronted with a reasonable dialogue, he instead yells insults and attempts to drown out reasonable conversation. He sticks to false memes and thinks that by yelling them more loudly, they gain credibility.
A similar occurrence happened early in the campaign season between Cruz and Code Pink disrupting his campaign stop - Sadly, Code Pink conducted themselves better than this Trumpster and his fellows, actually calming down and participating in an animated and reasonable dialog...
Equally sad in that i think he is probably high-fiving his friends, not knowing/comprehending the boorish display he made of himself.
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This shoe-size IQ'd slope had his Trumpkin lines down pat. Told Cruz "America would be better off without you." Cruz was calm, this guy was standing there with his goombahs, vomiting up lines that Trump has since praised.
THIS is why so many people will not vote for the fascistic demagogue who is more of a liar than Cruz by a factor of 10. Dislike will turn into hatred of Trump the more the campaign goes on.
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For that matter, the guy with sign was in Ted's face with the sign. Far more threatening than 'speech'. The SS did nothing.
So are you saying that the SS agents are more for protecting the left against unpleasant speech?
Interesting.
I think the SS takes their cue from who they are protecting. In Hillary's case, she would shirk from the unwashed masses and expect the SS to drop her bags and beat the guy senseless.
Cruz, on the other hand, is a man's man. He looks these clowns in the eye and disassembles their foolish rhetoric. The SS backs off because they know he "has it."
Hillary would never "have it," so anyone who dares approach must be crushed.
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A similar occurrence happened early in the campaign season between Cruz and Code Pink disrupting his campaign stop - Sadly, Code Pink conducted themselves better than this Trumpster and his fellows, actually calming down and participating in an animated and reasonable dialog...
Equally sad in that i think he is probably high-fiving his friends, not knowing/comprehending the boorish display he made of himself.
Oh, man - I remember that encounter! Cruz boldly brought the woman on stage for a debate. Add that encounter to the list (1), along with this (2) and...
3. When he told the illegal immigrant he would deport her.
4. When he explained to the Iowa farmer that ethanol subsidies were bad.
5. When he walked off stage when the Middle Eastern Christians refused to condemn persecution of Jews.
How many more incredibly poised, principled, and presidential exchanges does he have that we NEVER get to see?
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There's a bit more here at which you hint, but which I will spell out:
This Trumpette (and the others in the background) is using standard libtard tactics. While being confronted with a reasonable dialogue, he instead yells insults and attempts to drown out reasonable conversation. He sticks to false memes and thinks that by yelling them more loudly, they gain credibility.
Now, think of the leftists on the university campuses that think the only way to engage conservatives is to drown them out, protest them, and run them off. This a$$hat, with sign in hand, is acting in the exact same way. I see very little difference between the Trump crowd and the leftists (ex. "If anyone throws a tomato, beat the crap out of them" vs "Muscle! I need some muscle over here!")
This is what we are allowing the conservative movement to become. It would be hysterical if it weren't so sad. The Trumpettes think they are railing against the "uniparty" but their people act with more homogeneity with the lefties that they might as well just join them.
Thank you for that. You fleshed out what I was trying to say, only in a more concrete and complete way. Back when Glenn Beck (or whomever) first brought Alinsky into the mainstream of conservative thought I don't think that was meant as an endorsement of those tactics. Somewhere along the way certain people thought that was the way to go. For years we complained about (R) legislators talking about, "my distinguished friend and colleague on the other side of the aisle," fighting using Marquess of Queensberry rules etc., while they were being curb stomped by liberals, democrats and their co-conspirators in the media.
And so some decided it was time to, 'fight fire with fire' or 'get in the gutter'. Well as we've found out that's great for achieving some sort of emotional satisfaction but policy recommendations it does not make. Truthfully, I had my fill of Trump taking these fools to the woodshed sometime last year and then I got bored with it. Because there was nothing behind it. The problem that Trump supporters fail to realize is that Trump is fighting a cultural PC war (giving the most charitable interpretation of his candidacy), but as we all know politics is a function of culture and there will not be any political returns to see in this cultural battle for some time if at all. And even on the most hot-button cultural issues of our time, Trump is voting present at best.
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Oh, man - I remember that encounter! Cruz boldly brought the woman on stage for a debate. Add that encounter to the list (1), along with this (2) and...
3. When he told the illegal immigrant he would deport her.
4. When he explained to the Iowa farmer that ethanol subsidies were bad.
5. When he walked off stage when the Middle Eastern Christians refused to condemn persecution of Jews.
How many more incredibly poised, principled, and presidential exchanges does he have that we NEVER get to see?
Probably a lot more ... the media would rather fixate on a complete babbling idiot who claims to be a conservative.
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For that matter, the guy with sign was in Ted's face with the sign. Far more threatening than 'speech'. The SS did nothing.
So are you saying that the SS agents are more for protecting the left against unpleasant speech?
Interesting.
Are you sure Senator Cruz has Secret Service protection. I think Mr. Trump (the billionaire who is funding his own campaign) and Dr. Carson were the only two primary candidates who specifically asked for protection. Of course Sec. Clinton has protection as the wife of a former president. Everyone else is on their own.
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In 2000 I volunteered for the Bush/Cheney campaign with our job one Saturday to stand at the entrance to The University of Washington's Huskie Stadium prior to the game. All day long we would get far left radicals (all college age kids) getting in our face and acting just like this A-hole. Not wanting to engage in conversation, just insult us and Bush and name-call, and a few even spitting at our feet. This is all they knew how to do.
Now with Trump we have this same kind of devil's spawn using the same childish tactics against someone supposedly in their same Party. Sickens me.
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@etcb
Trump is only loaning money to his campaign, not fully funding it. Saying he's "financing" his campaign would be more accurate.
Also, Cruz clearly has Secret Service protection. You can see one of the guys standing right behind him.
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That is a, typical Trump supporter. Cruz was magnificent.
Yeah, Cruz the magnificent. :laugh:
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Amazing how much Coulter and her pet monkey Drudge have sunk into the Trump sludge.
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@etcb
Also, Cruz clearly has Secret Service protection. You can see one of the guys standing right behind him.
Certainly Senator Cruz has a security detail but I can't any record of him ever requesting protection by the Secrete Service. Mr. Trump and Dr. Carson both requested protection back around October or November 2015 and both request were approved by the Dept. of Homeland Security. I did find a recent report that Senator Sanders had also requested and received Secret Service protection. Gov Kasich is protected by a detail provided by the State of Ohio. Senator Cruz may have recently requested a federal protection detail but I would be surprised if he did.
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Certainly Senator Cruz has a security detail but I can't any record of him ever requesting protection by the Secrete Service.
It's automatic at this stage of a campaign.
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So....the idiot actually yelled out "Lyin' Ted!" at random and asked where Cruz's Goldman Sachs jacket was.
Ted's willingness and ability to engage opponents is admirable, but it's not possible to reason with such people. Their rabid hero worship has made them immune to anything except Trump pronouncements.
Check out this guys whittled down teeth, the super grin and eyebrows jumping above the "cool" shades. The guy is a meth freak. Ted needs to be wary of those types they are very unpredictable.
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I don't care for either one of them, but if I were a Trump supporter, that video would have embarrassed the heck out of me. Cruz made him look so bad, I almost thought it was a set-up. I do not believe Trump would ever go up to someone and calmly answer a bunch of in-your-face diatribes like Cruz did.
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Good God. That video only demonstrates how far we have fallen. You would think that such displays of ignorance wouldn't be so breathtaking but in my case it is. I'm embarrassed for our country. And to the Trump supporters do you wonder why those who don't support Trump consider those that do to be nothing more than a mob? I get that not every voter is a die-hard political animal with facts and statistics at their fingertips (it's why we've coined the acronym LIV) but this video just demonstrates the lack of the most basic attributes like logic and reason.
The fact is the entire country has shifted left and along with that is a loss of these attributes even from those who we would call, in the most generic of senses, on our side. There is a danger here. And the 'smart' Trump supporters who think they are using the mob i.e., LIV's, Reagan democrats, the non-political first-timers for their own ends will find that even if they succeed they will have failed.
Well that explains everything. Confronted with truth they stick to the Trump memes like Trump robots. I think that it is widespread stupidity. He isn't a loner. There's a whole herd of them.
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That is a typical Trump supporter. Cruz was magnificent.
That's exactly how I envision the typical Trumper. under-educated, ugly teeth, sloppy clothes, and a big-mouth,that listens to no one but himself. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/Smileys/default/thud.gif
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Poor guy never stood a chance against Cruz.
I was thinking the same thing, strange that Coward Trump sends his Serfs out to debate Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz actually went across the street to engage them, while Trump would have told someone to punch them in the face, or yelled GET EM OUT OF HERE, quick, get em out.
The boy had not one issue that he could discuss with TED, oh yes, THE WALL (GAG)
Notice how he swayed all the time in Ted presence, that is arrogant but nervous stupidity, and he dare not take off his glasses and make eye contact, another sign of a coward. Trump is a Coward, and a lying con.
How embarrassing but typical of Trumpism.
@LadyLiberty
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Check out this guys whittled down teeth, the super grin and eyebrows jumping above the "cool" shades. The guy is a meth freak. Ted needs to be wary of those types they are very unpredictable.
Will have to go back and watch it again for the signs of Meth you described, I saw the ugly teeth. I was a little concerned that they would actually attack Ted, as that is their mentality. <P>
Cowardly of Trump not to Debate Ted, yet allow his serfs to go out and try to debate Ted, big FAIL there. This will surely make their local news and should have some effect on the voters.
@ EtX
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:chairbang: :chairbang: I think that sub-human was so pleased by his performance--- I can hear him
"Boy did I tell that Lyin' Ted off! He was so afraid and he knew I was changing a lot of people's minds right there! I wonder where he is goin' next. Trump knows how to get us out to help him!"
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Contrast Cruz's calm demeanor with Trump's orange-faced yelling and screaming and gesticulating.
The devotion to Trump is to the MAN, not to anything he stands for.
yes the devotion to Trumps is to the Man, not to anything he stands for. Reason: he makes them feel normal, he's one of them, it's ok to be rude, crude and evil they just love him for all that.
What an embarrassment.
@ sinkspur
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I am disgusted that the people of this nation have not forced a one on one debate between Cruz and Trump... and Ted has to, instead debate this guy as his stand-in.
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Saw this pathetic exchange as well.
There are informed Trump supporters, but man, this was not one of them.
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I am disgusted that the people of this nation have not forced a one on one debate between Cruz and Trump... and Ted has to, instead debate this guy as his stand-in.
I think the people of this Nation are disgusted by the debates and would be happy to never see another one until Fall anyway. Besides what would Trump have to gain by a debate now?
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Outstanding job by Mr. Cruz slicing up one of the low educated base that the Donald loves. What is sad, is this idiot thinks he looks smart, when the world is actually laughing at him.
Wonder when the last time the Orange Charlatan addressed a protester at 3 feet away..... Uhhhh never mind, Trump thuggery would have taken care of it pronto.
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I guess you didn't get the message that Matt Drudge went full Trump long ago.
Trump's a joke, and watch how badly he gets butchered this fall when conservatives vote 3rd party.
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Wonder how many times Trump is going to regret yelling "Lyin Ted" this November, after he loses the Conservative vote. Forever he will be known as "Losin' Donald"
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I guess you didn't get the message that Matt Drudge went full Trump long ago.
Trump's a joke, and watch how badly he gets butchered this fall when conservatives vote 3rd party.
And yet it will be the 3rd party conservatives who wind up butchered, without a viable political party left standing, with a SCOTUS holding up to a 7-2 liberal majority, with federal district and circuit courts filled to the brim with liberals, ruling on gun control, unions, fossil fuels, immigration, Obamacare, misc labor issues, religious issues, "equality", and a host of issues that continue the destruction of states' powers.
But we can always take comfort in how we butchered the GOP candidate. Woo Hoo!
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Given Trump's fairly recent history of flip flopping, abd donating and supporting liberals, you really think a Trump POTUS will look any different than Hitlerly? I dread the same things, but after Trump completes his duping of the country, I think you will get a what constitutes Gerald Ford ver 2.0
No thanks......
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Given Trump's fairly recent history of flip flopping, abd donating and supporting liberals, you really think a Trump POTUS will look any different than Hitlerly? I dread the same things, but after Trump completes his duping of the country, I think you will get a what constitutes Gerald Ford ver 2.0
No thanks......
That's the meme of the #nevertrump group, "how do we know what he would do". We don't, but we damn sure know what Hillary would do. Let me see. Do I want a Hillary who promises all those things, and who would continue much of the transformation Obama started, or would I rather take a chance on Trump, who has promised all the right things, but who I can't be sure would actually deliver? Or I can vote 3rd party and then blame Trump when he loses... Gotta think about that one for a while :pondering:
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I don't care for either one of them, but if I were a Trump supporter, that video would have embarrassed the heck out of me. Cruz made him look so bad, I almost thought it was a set-up. I do not believe Trump would ever go up to someone and calmly answer a bunch of in-your-face diatribes like Cruz did.
My gut says it was a set-up, a desperate attempt to make Cruz look "awesome" at this late stage of the game.
What Trump supporter would waste their time at a Cruz rally today? Talk about a complete waste of time - Cruz is going down tonight - he will lose big. Why go to a loser's rally - when you can go to a winner's rally? Doesn't make sense - this man is not what he is pretending to be. Trust me, a Trump supporter would not waste the time when the man is losing all by himself - he sure doesn't need us to help him.
Here's some REAL Trump supporters!
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That's the meme of the #nevertrump group, "how do we know what he would do". We don't, but we damn sure know what Hillary would do. Let me see. Do I want a Hillary who promises all those things, and who would continue much of the transformation Obama started, or would I rather take a chance on Trump, who has promised all the right things, but who I can't be sure would actually deliver? Or I can vote 3rd party and then blame Trump when he loses... Gotta think about that one for a while :pondering:
So do you think that votes should be automatic? Like how the black vote defaults to the Democrats time and again?
Should Trump have to do anything to earn these people's trust?
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And yet it will be the 3rd party conservatives who wind up butchered, without a viable political party left standing, with a SCOTUS holding up to a 7-2 liberal majority, with federal district and circuit courts filled to the brim with liberals, ruling on gun control, unions, fossil fuels, immigration, Obamacare, misc labor issues, religious issues, "equality", and a host of issues that continue the destruction of states' powers.
But we can always take comfort in how we butchered the GOP candidate. Woo Hoo!
That's called "cutting your nose off to spite your face".
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So do you think that votes should be automatic? Like how the black vote defaults to the Democrats time and again?
Should Trump have to do anything to earn these people's trust?
Trump has worked hard during this campaign - he is winning the old-fashioned way - with the PEOPLE.
He has done as much, if not more, to earn people's trust - as any of these professional politicians that lie every election cycle - and rarely do what they promise to do. In fact - it appears to me that they've rolled over for Obama almost everytime they've had an opportunity.
How have these taxpayer parasites earned anyone's trust?
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Trump has worked hard during this campaign - he is winning the old-fashioned way - with the PEOPLE.
He has done as much, if not more, to earn people's trust - as any of these professional politicians that lie every election cycle - and rarely do what they promise to do. In fact - it appears to me that they've rolled over for Obama almost everytime they've had an opportunity.
How have these taxpayer parasites earned anyone's trust?
Red herring right here ^^^^. I know Trump has earned your vote, my question was for MacV. I don't even disagree with you, necessarily, although equating all politicians as exactly the same is some damn lazy thinking as far as I'm concerned.
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Amazingly enough, many of us thought Donald Trump was as bad as Ted Cruz says he is now when Cruz said he was "terrific."
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So do you think that votes should be automatic? Like how the black vote defaults to the Democrats time and again?
Should Trump have to do anything to earn these people's trust?
Sure, but he has apparently done that for those who've given him the nomination. It's never going to make me like him. For me, keeping the Democrats from the White House is the most important short-term goal. For others it's sending a message. We go through the primaries, and just because we don't like the last man (generic) standing isn't for me a reason to abandon reason. We know what Hillary would do; we don't know what Trump would do. No contest for me as a conservative and a Republican. The Obama transition to his view of America isn't over, and I would like to see it at least significantly hindered if not stopped entirely.
It's much more to me than Noonan's recent declaration that November will come down to voting for a crook or a crazy man. It's just not that simple. I will vote to stop Hillary, but after eight more years of socialist transition, I won't have any qualms about what I did or didn't do to stop the madness. Others might.
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I think the people of this Nation are disgusted by the debates and would be happy to never see another one until Fall anyway. Besides what would Trump have to gain by a debate now?
It's not about what Trump has to gain... this is about what we have to lose by not demanding a debate format that fast tracks the debate format from 17 viable candidates to 2, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
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"He (Trump) has done as much, if not more, to earn people's trust "
That was satire right?
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He has done as much, if not more, to earn people's trust...
Name three things he has done to earn our trust.
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Red herring right here ^^^^. I know Trump has earned your vote, my question was for MacV. I don't even disagree with you, necessarily, although equating all politicians as exactly the same is some damn lazy thinking as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe so, but I know after being very active in politics for the Republican party for forty years - putting in a lot of time, money and effort - I have become aware of only a few exceptions to that rule. Not enough exceptions to even establish a trend. Once, I thought Cruz was one - but he has disappointed me as well.
What I was trying to say - Trump has earned as much trust with me as any of these other guys. I'm willing to suspend a false sense of security (voting for a professional politician) - WHO else would be qualified to do their job - it's so hard - I KNOW a self-employed successful businessman that has done business all over the world could never be qualified to do what a slimy lawyer (in all probability) can do - spend, waste, steal, misuse, bribe, etc - the poor taxpayer's hard-earned money all day long.
It's a no-brainer - Trump earning my trust - or some politician. After watching my country go down the skids and teetering off the cliff - due to the mismanagement of these people running Washington DC right now - it's a NO-BRAINER.
Stay in the trap? Or chew my leg off and maybe survive?
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Every time I see an uneducated Trump supporter like this I was to gag. These are the type of brainwashed people that have no clue, but sway the vote for one of the most important offices in the country. This is the inbred mentality our liberals have instilled in our education system to perpetuate stupidity and elect the likes of Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Make me sick.
Hear, hear!
Trump has made a good living scamming the stupid, either investors he conned, students at his "university," or shills as his casinos.
He may well pull off the biggest con in the history of the world shortly.
Sad.
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It's not about what Trump has to gain... this is about what we have to lose by not demanding a debate format that fast tracks the debate format from 17 viable candidates to 2, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
That wasn't what you said earlier prompting my response. If you think the debate format should change in the future, fine. Problem is during the early part of the debates, many of them changed places quite often as they did in 2012. IIRC, Bush started out as number one. At this point, Trump would be stupid to debate Cruz one on one.
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Maybe so, but I know after being very active in politics for the Republican party for forty years - putting in a lot of time, money and effort - I have become aware of only a few exceptions to that rule. Not enough exceptions to even establish a trend. Once, I thought Cruz was one - but he has disappointed me as well.
This is the sort of just complete idiocy which leads me to think that even Reagan would be called a "RINO" in today's hyper-idiotic conservative world, where 100% purity is demanded. It pushes us toward idiotic extremism, and idiotically pushes the GOP to reject good candidates who may not be 100% conservative, but only 99%.
In other words, it's a prime example of why we are called the "stupid party". This all or nothing black or white thinking.
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Sure, but he has apparently done that for those who've given him the nomination. It's never going to make me like him. For me, keeping the Democrats from the White House is the most important short-term goal. For others it's sending a message. We go through the primaries, and just because we don't like the last man (generic) standing isn't for me a reason to abandon reason. We know what Hillary would do; we don't know what Trump would do. No contest for me as a conservative and a Republican. The Obama transition to his view of America isn't over, and I would like to see it at least significantly hindered if not stopped entirely.
It's much more to me than Noonan's recent declaration that November will come down to voting for a crook or a crazy man. It's just not that simple. I will vote to stop Hillary, but after eight more years of socialist transition, I won't have any qualms about what I did or didn't do to stop the madness. Others might.
Great post!!!
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Great post!!!
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This is the sort of just complete idiocy which leads me to think that even Reagan would be called a "RINO" in today's hyper-idiotic conservative world, where 100% purity is demanded. It pushes us toward idiotic extremism, and idiotically pushes the GOP to reject good candidates who may not be 100% conservative, but only 99%.
In other words, it's a prime example of why we are called the "stupid party". This all or nothing black or white thinking.
I totally agree with that.
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I think the people of this Nation are disgusted by the debates and would be happy to never see another one until Fall anyway. Besides what would Trump have to gain by a debate now?
The issue is not what Trump has to gain, but what we the people might hear that we don't like. Trump avoided a Cruz Mano e Mano debate for fear that he (Trump) would be shown as a fraud, which he is. If not for the open primaries, he wouldn't have had a chance. The primaries are supposed to be party nominations, not an open popularity contest. The GOP is as much fault in this aspect as they are for his popularity due to GOP inaction in the Congress. Time to abandon both Trump and the GOP losers.
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The issue is not what Trump has to gain, but what we the people might hear that we don't like. Trump avoided a Cruz Mano e Mano debate for fear that he (Trump) would be shown as a fraud, which he is. If not for the open primaries, he wouldn't have had a chance. The primaries are supposed to be party nominations, not an open popularity contest. The GOP is as much fault in this aspect as they are for his popularity due to GOP inaction in the Congress. Time to abandon both Trump and the GOP losers.
Point was Trump had nothing to gain and as you point out a lot to lose. That has nothing to do with the various state rules, which will no doubt be severly looked at after tbe election. I'll stick with the GOP and it's nominee as I know what Hillary will do once elected. But that's me and everyone else has to decide that very important issue for themselves.
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...Trump has earned as much trust with me as any of these other guys...
...It's a no-brainer - Trump earning my trust - or some politician...
I see you are still ignoring my earlier call to name three things Trump has done to earn your trust.
Telling.
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I often wonder what this mouth-breathing idiot's screen name is on unfreerepublic