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Title: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: rangerrebew on March 16, 2024, 02:56:05 pm
15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
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In this eye-opening list provided by MoneyGeek, you will see the 15 cities with a very alarming and high crime cost per capita, making them places where safety is a primary concern and very costly, impacting residents' lifestyles.

Keep reading to reveal the places you might think twice about calling home.

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Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: catfish1957 on March 16, 2024, 03:04:27 pm
Our place across the river in Metro East IL, is across from STL (wife's family home).  We refuse to go to STL after dark. It's that risky.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: LMAO on March 16, 2024, 03:06:38 pm
Something has to give at some point

A country cannot stand with its cities collapsing. At one time our cities were some of the safest places to live. And they had less gun laws on top of that.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: andy58-in-nh on March 16, 2024, 03:09:32 pm
Nearly all of those cities seem to have something in common, other than the laughable excuse of "income disparity"...
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: Hoodat on March 16, 2024, 03:51:48 pm
For those with a strong aversion to clickbait, here's the list:



Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 05:20:16 pm
Our place across the river in Metro East IL, is across from STL (wife's family home).  We refuse to go to STL after dark. It's that risky.

@catfish1957

It was already like that in the 70's.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: catfish1957 on March 16, 2024, 06:19:13 pm
@catfish1957

It was already like that in the 70's.

My first visit after getting married was iin the early '80's.  Back then you could at least enjoy daytime visits to the Arch Grounds, Forest Park, etc.  It's twice as bad now. Not safe during the day, and at night?  I wouldn't even want to be in my loocked Truck on the streets
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: Wingnut on March 16, 2024, 07:22:43 pm
The closest I ever get to St Louis MO or for that matter, east St Louis IL is St Charles.

I always make sure I fill my tank 50 miles in either direction of St Louis so I don't have to stop. 
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 08:43:38 pm
My first visit after getting married was iin the early '80's.  Back then you could at least enjoy daytime visits to the Arch Grounds, Forest Park, etc.  It's twice as bad now. Not safe during the day, and at night?  I wouldn't even want to be in my loocked Truck on the streets

@catfish1957 

The only time (once was enough) that I went there I was so drunk I didn't even know where I was. When my wits started to return,I discovered I was parked along a sidewalk in  St.Louis (last thing I remembered was being in Norfolk,Va) in my 68 Bonneville with the "Support your local Police" bumper sticker,and wondering "How the HELL did I drive to Mogadishu?"

And taking HARD looks at me. And all I had was a 6 shot 38 Special.


The streets and sidewalks were filled with roaming blacks,it was around midnight,and people were cooking or burning stuff in 55 gallon drums pushed out in the street. It reminded me of when  I deployed to the uprising  in the Dominican  Republic in the  early 70's,with a drunken side trip to Haiti. Don't ask me why I went to Haiti because  I have  no idea. I just  work up  in an ox cart filled with hay (seriously) in Hatii. Last thing I remembered was partying with some Chinese girls in the DR.

 
"Hmmmm,thinks I! This MIGHT be a good time to start hauling ass out of here!",and off I went,looking for an interstate and a truck stop somewhere to find out where the  hell I was,because you can't go home until you know where you are.

NO danger at all of me going back,either. This was in the early 70's.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 08:48:29 pm
The closest I ever get to St Louis MO or for that matter, east St Louis IL is St Charles.

I always make sure I fill my tank 50 miles in either direction of St Louis so I don't have to stop.

@Wingnut

Smart move!
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: Fishrrman on March 16, 2024, 08:56:09 pm
Methinks that demographics has somethin' to do with it...
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 09:10:17 pm
Methinks that demographics has somethin' to do with it...

@Fishrrman

And now we have a new demographic taking over that might even be worse than the one we have now.

Should be entertaining to watch them gun down  each  other in the streets to see who controls the crack and the whoes.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: the OlLine Rebel on March 16, 2024, 09:29:54 pm
For those with a strong aversion to clickbait, here's the list:



  • Birmingham, AL

  • New Orleans, LA

  • St. Louis, MO

  • Detroit, MI

  • Memphis, TN

  • Baltimore, MD

  • Little Rock, AR

  • Cleveland, OH

  • Milwaukee, WI

  • Kansas City, MO

  • Pueblo, CO

  • Oakland, CA

  • San Bernardino, CA

  • Philadelphia, PA

  • Atlanta, GA


I can’t believe DC doesn’t make the top 15.

Anyway, good to see Baltimore is on a list somewhere.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: the OlLine Rebel on March 16, 2024, 09:33:54 pm
@Fishrrman

And now we have a new demographic taking over that might even be worse than the one we have now.

Should be entertaining to watch them gun down  each  other in the streets to see who controls the crack and the whoes.

The odd thing is yes, we have too many illegals that include thugs, but we also have many who want to work and have a huge family ethic.  No, it’s not always clean, but there is some cohesion.

Meanwhile legal Demographic has little family structure at all and no work ethic either.  Their constant defense of thugs who are almost always the “victims”, with publicity, protests and riots proves they are more interested in preserving their ability to thug, than truly worried about police brutality and alleged racism.  That means the entire population, not just a significant minority.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 16, 2024, 09:37:45 pm
I can’t believe DC doesn’t make the top 15.

Anyway, good to see Baltimore is on a list somewhere.

@the OlLine Rebel

"Pueblo, CO"

More than a little surprised to see that one on the list. Was a very casual laid-back college town the last time I was there.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: NavyCanDo on March 17, 2024, 01:08:22 am
Seattle's KOMO News back in 2019 ran a 1 hr special called "Seattle is Dying", focusing on the homeless, drugs, and the mentally ill roaming the street of downtown.   Much much worse in 2024. We can look back at 2019 as the good old days.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: Sighlass on March 17, 2024, 01:15:38 am
Now you know why you don't want Birmingham (Alabama) being the last with poll results. You can guess why.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: goatprairie on March 17, 2024, 02:23:26 am
For those with a strong aversion to clickbait, here's the list:



  • Birmingham, AL

  • New Orleans, LA

  • St. Louis, MO

  • Detroit, MI

  • Memphis, TN

  • Baltimore, MD

  • Little Rock, AR

  • Cleveland, OH

  • Milwaukee, WI

  • Kansas City, MO

  • Pueblo, CO

  • Oakland, CA

  • San Bernardino, CA

  • Philadelphia, PA

  • Atlanta, GA

Where's Indianapolis? i go to then major cities every day for the news including Naptown. It's a rare day when I don't read about some homicide(s) mostly of the shooting type. Shootings, stabbings, robberies, etc. are daily fare.
How do people in those cities put up with that garbage?
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: goatprairie on March 17, 2024, 02:28:30 am
@catfish1957 

The only time (once was enough) that I went there I was so drunk I didn't even know where I was. When my wits started to return,I discovered I was parked along a sidewalk in  St.Louis (last thing I remembered was being in Norfolk,Va) in my 68 Bonneville with the "Support your local Police" bumper sticker,and wondering "How the HELL did I drive to Mogadishu?"

And taking HARD looks at me. And all I had was a 6 shot 38 Special.


The streets and sidewalks were filled with roaming blacks,it was around midnight,and people were cooking or burning stuff in 55 gallon drums pushed out in the street. It reminded me of when  I deployed to the uprising  in the Dominican  Republic in the  early 70's,with a drunken side trip to Haiti. Don't ask me why I went to Haiti because  I have  no idea. I just  work up  in an ox cart filled with hay (seriously) in Hatii. Last thing I remembered was partying with some Chinese girls in the DR.

 
"Hmmmm,thinks I! This MIGHT be a good time to start hauling ass out of here!",and off I went,looking for an interstate and a truck stop somewhere to find out where the  hell I was,because you can't go home until you know where you are.

NO danger at all of me going back,either. This was in the early 70's.
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Was that you or Chevy Chase behind the wheel?
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: LMAO on March 17, 2024, 02:40:57 am
Methinks that demographics has somethin' to do with it...

That demographic combined with a ghetto culture
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: LMAO on March 17, 2024, 02:41:50 am
I can’t believe DC doesn’t make the top 15.

Anyway, good to see Baltimore is on a list somewhere.

I’m also surprised Minneapolis Minnesota isn’t on there either
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 17, 2024, 04:01:39 am
Where's Indianapolis? i go to then major cities every day for the news including Naptown. It's a rare day when I don't read about some homicide(s) mostly of the shooting type. Shootings, stabbings, robberies, etc. are daily fare.
How do people in those cities put up with that garbage?

@goatprairie

Because it is all they have ever known,so it is what they expect daily.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on March 17, 2024, 05:18:05 am
For those with a strong aversion to clickbait, here's the list:



  • Birmingham, AL

  • New Orleans, LA

  • St. Louis, MO

  • Detroit, MI

  • Memphis, TN

  • Baltimore, MD

  • Little Rock, AR

  • Cleveland, OH

  • Milwaukee, WI

  • Kansas City, MO

  • Pueblo, CO

  • Oakland, CA

  • San Bernardino, CA

  • Philadelphia, PA

  • Atlanta, GA


I really expected Houston to be on the list.  :shrug:
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: verga on March 18, 2024, 02:07:18 pm
Methinks that demographics has somethin' to do with it...
You got that right, those darn Amish, can't trust them.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: verga on March 18, 2024, 02:09:06 pm
@the OlLine Rebel

"Pueblo, CO"

More than a little surprised to see that one on the list. Was a very casual laid-back college town the last time I was there.
@sneakypete, I thought the same thing, Also surprised NYC is MIA. 
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: Wingnut on March 18, 2024, 03:13:31 pm
Liberals explain Pueblo high crime this way " Pueblo is home to a disproportionately large share of residents facing severe financial hardship. The local poverty rate of 17.9% is considerably higher than the comparable 12.3% national rate."

Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on March 18, 2024, 03:31:47 pm
Liberals explain Pueblo high crime this way " Pueblo is home to a disproportionately large share of residents facing severe financial hardship. The local poverty rate of 17.9% is considerably higher than the comparable 12.3% national rate."

@Wingnut

You left off the part about this being the fault of white folks.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: Polly Ticks on March 18, 2024, 04:17:36 pm
Also no Chicago.   :shrug:   Weird.

I wonder what criteria they used.  (I AM allergic to clickbait, so I freely confess I didn't read the article.)
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 18, 2024, 05:40:18 pm
@sneakypete, I thought the same thing, Also surprised NYC is MIA.

@verga

When it comes to NYC,it might be a case of "so obvious it doesn't need to be mentioned.

Lots of my aunts and uncles headed off to NYC when WW-2 began to get those high-paying defense industry jobs,and to avoid the draft. Their children and grandchildren  started moving back home in the early 70's,and not a single one of them even want to go back to visit. The first I was aware of personally was a cousin who came south as a graduation present from high school,and never went back. Called his mother and told her to ship him his tools and clothes,and that she would be welcome to come visit any time she wanted to see him. His aunts and his mother are here now,and AFAIN,all of his cousins. I don't know all of their names,but you can identify them  by their atrocious accents. Unfortunately,some of the younger males brought their NYC accent and mouths with them,and that didn't always work out well for them.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 18, 2024, 05:43:26 pm
That's BS. Kids growing up in poverty see other kids that have stuff,and they want stuff too,so they are willing to work hard to get it.

The problem is all those aid programs that give them "this and that for free",but it's never quite enough to escape de projecks. The left has a vested interest in keeping them poor,jealous, and pissed off.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: Hoodat on March 18, 2024, 11:23:37 pm
Now you know why you don't want Birmingham (Alabama) being the last with poll results. You can guess why.

@Sighlass

Even with Birmingham at the top, I would still prefer living there over every other city on that list.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: goatprairie on March 19, 2024, 01:56:34 am
Liberals explain Pueblo high crime this way " Pueblo is home to a disproportionately large share of residents facing severe financial hardship. The local poverty rate of 17.9% is considerably higher than the comparable 12.3% national rate."
I'll bet the economic conditions I grew up in the fifties were harsher than many people considered living in poverty today. Lived in a basement house, shared a bed with my older brother in one corner of the furnace room with two sisters sharing a bed in the other corned of a 12x12 room. Sometimes ate sugar sandwiches (which i liked) because we didn't have lunch meat or peanut butter at the time. But I didn't consider myself poor, because I didn't know any rich kids.
That's just the way things were. My father worked very hard and moved us into the middle class in the sixties.
We didn't have the money the Kennedys had. So what? Many people were also in our economic status and moved up. We never considered crime as an option.
Today's so-called poverty-stricken people have a lot more opportunities. Where there's a will, there's a way.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: Hoodat on March 19, 2024, 02:45:32 am
Liberals explain Pueblo high crime this way " Pueblo is home to a disproportionately large share of residents facing severe financial hardship. The local poverty rate of 17.9% is considerably higher than the comparable 12.3% national rate."

Such condescension.  Liberals wrongly presuming that poverty breeds crime.  You want to see a stat that leads to high crime rates?  Children raised by single mothers (which our government subsidizes).

Over 42% of births in Pueblo, CO are to single mothers.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: sneakypete on March 19, 2024, 03:27:34 am
Such condescension.  Liberals wrongly presuming that poverty breeds crime.  You want to see a stat that leads to high crime rates?  Children raised by single mothers (which our government subsidizes).

Over 42% of births in Pueblo, CO are to single mothers.

@Hoodat

And the only reason the majority of these children are born is so the mother can get a nicer "partmint",more money each month,and a guaranteed check and free space to live in for at least the next 17  years.

Which doesn't bode well for the future of the the children being born. They are NOT "wanted",they are NEEDED.
Title: Re: 15 Cities That Are Now So Dangerous You Can't Live There (And They Are Not NYC or LA)
Post by: goatprairie on March 19, 2024, 06:09:42 pm
:patriot: :patriot: :patriot:  Hats off to you buddy!  God bless you!
I'd actually prefer how I grew up in the fifties and sixties to kids today who spend most of their time attached to cell phones and video games.
Where I grew up there were numerous great places to play outside. Bluffs nearby to climb, a driving range that converted into a sled hill in the winter, a playground down the street,  and railroad tracks to walk on one block away.  Our gopher-hole filled ball diamond was close by. We'd often play touch football in the street.
We didn't starve and we didn't go without clothes. So, despite not having much money (rarely had a nickel in my pocket), I'd consider the way I and my siblings (and many friends) grew up over today's youth who have everything but often don't have anything.