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I'm Just Giving You the Lay of the Land on Trump, But I'm Not Suggesting Anything
August 24, 2016
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RUSH: The lead story in the Drive-By Media, there are two lead stories. The first lead story is that Trump is softening on immigration. The Drive-Bys are attempting to say that Trump is doing what everybody knew he was gonna do, and that is he's not gonna build a wall and he's not gonna deport a bunch of people, and all that talk during the primaries and all that talk in the early stages of the presidential campaign about the building the wall and sending people home was never gonna happen. The Drive-Bys say, we told you, and now Trump is admitting it. Trump is softening on immigration and the Drive-Bys are out doing man-on-the-street interviews with Trump supporters.
They are trying to find Trump supporters who are ready to throw in the towel now. They want to go out there, they want to find Trump supporters that feel betrayed. They want to find Trump supporters that are mad about it, and they can't. What they're finding is exactly what I told them would be the case last fall. They don't understand the connection between Trump and his supporters. It's not that hard to understand, particularly when I explain it so well. It must be hard to accept. It isn't hard to understand.
I think one of the problems the Drive-Bys and others who don't understand it are having is that they may never have experienced it. They may never have experienced this kind of connection. What is happening, at least with the people on the street that the Drive-Bys are finding, that Trump supporters are making excuses for him. They're saying things like, "Well, you know, you have to do what you have to do to build your campaign. Sometimes you have to moderate what you're saying. Sometimes you have to do things in a different way to build your base. Sometimes you have to change a little bit."
Whatever, they're finding any number of ways to excuse Trump, supposedly softening on immigration. By the way, I'm not accepting the premise yet. I'm just throwing it out as the Drive-Bys are suggesting it. Byron York has a piece today on the Washington Examiner saying that whatever they're doing, the Trump campaign is now obviously confused and they don't know what they're doing and they don't know how to do it, and their immigration policy seems to be up for grabs now. I'm paraphrasing Byron York's story. But this is the premise that the Drive-Bys are operating under.
Oh, here's something else too, by the way. I'm getting a lot of email after the program yesterday from people who are objecting to what they think I said yesterday. I'm always fascinated by what people hear. You know, as the nation's leading communicator, as America's Real Anchorman, as America's Truth Detector, one of my objectives every day is to actually be understood. And I go to great lengths, I say things sometimes in two or three different ways. I, in explaining things, try to anticipate things people might understand and address them and re-explain. I go the full mile trying to communicate exactly what I mean. But it always happens that there will be some who don't get it nevertheless. It's nobody's fault; it's just human nature.
Now, I received a number of emails last night and yesterday afternoon from people who say, "Rush, you're really beginning to sound desperate on Trump." I looked at them; I said, "Wow, that's curious. What in the world...?" What they were talking about was, "You know, you keep talking about this guy in the Washington Post, Robert Costa, who reported about a month ago that many in the Hillary campaign and many in the Drive-Bys --" which is one and the same "-- are actually very concerned about people that are not being polled because they haven't voted in a long time because they're so fed up."
There are two numbers you put together, 70% of the American people think the country's headed in the wrong direction and that's borne out in a number of different polls. And then the other number is roughly 50% of the American adult population doesn't vote every presidential race, every four years. So, you put those two numbers together and you end up with a large number of people who may think the country's headed in the wrong direction but who don't vote.
And Mr. Costa's point in the Washington Post, he was talking to Charlie Rose, said, "What if they show up? What if those are the people that really, really love Trump. They're just fed up with everything about American politics. They're fed up with the insider stuff. They're fed up with just everything that's happen, and their protest is to not vote and tune out and just try to take care of themselves, what if Trump's really, really firing 'em up?"
And then there was a column yesterday by Salena Zito, who's a columnist at the Pittsburgh Tribune Review in which she stated she'd ridden around the state of Pennsylvania and she found in all these rural areas, and not just rural, but small towns, outside the big cities of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, she'd found Trump yard signs everywhere. No matter where she went there was overwhelming evidence of massive support for Donald Trump.
And she described these people to a T. These were people that, you know, used to define what was moral and immoral, they used to define cultural dos and don'ts. They used to define values and so forth, and now they don't. They have been superseded by cultural rot. And they have tuned out, too. So I talked about both of those, and I alluded to the possibility, not with any hope -- I mean, I'm not doing this with any hope -- that polling is missing them. And I did make mention that there could be some great silent majority out there.
Anyway, the emails I got from people last night, "Boy, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Rush, do you really think those people aren't being polled? Do you really think there's a whole giant mess of people out there waiting to show up and give Trump a landslide win that nobody's finding and nobody's polling and nobody's talking to and everybody's ignoring?"
And I never have said that 'cause I don't know. I'm just sharing with you the thoughts and opinions of a couple of people here that intrigue me. Robert Costa writing in the Washington Post and Salena Zito's piece yesterday intrigue me. I'm not suggesting that there is this giant swell, this giant unseen, waiting-to-be-unleashed movement that's gonna deliver a landslide victory to Trump. Nor am I sitting here trying to be phony and artificially optimistic about anything.
I'm just giving you the lay of the land and analyzing it as I see it. I thought I have been very clear about this, so I was happy to get the emails to find out how people are hearing this. That they think that I am doing what I can to get people to not give up, to hold out hope.
And the point of the emails, most of the ones that agreed, were it's not possible that there are that many people not being polled, that nobody knows about, that are lurking out there waiting for Election Day to show up and turn Trump into a landslide winner, "and you're doing your audience a disservice, Mr. Limbaugh, if you keep talking that way."
I'm not suggesting anything. I'm merely reporting and reacting to what other people are saying about it.
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RUSH: We have a new Reuters poll out. Clinton leading Trump by 12 points. This is a Reuters national poll, and it's among likely voters. It's her strongest showing this month, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released yesterday. Now, remember something here, folks. Reuters has recently changed their polling methods and their techniques. Remember? They no longer count undecideds.
Nobody is allowed to be undecided in a Reuters poll, and yet people are undecided. There's still a bunch of people. In any sample that you're gonna poll there are gonna be some undecideds. So what does Reuters do? Well, Reuters assigns those people to either Trump or Hillary based on what they think they are hearing those people say. And ever since Reuters decided to not allow people to say they were undecided -- I mean, even though they are, they're not allowed to say so, ever since they did that, Hillary's numbers have gone up.
And Pat Caddell's made a big deal out of this. This is one of the most, not dishonest, but this is one of the most misleading results that you could get, because undecideds are a huge number. The undecideds are a very important number in any poll. The undecideds and when they break, you know, when do they make up their mind?
If you're gonna do a poll where nobody in it is allowed to be undecided and the pollster gets to ultimately determine where those people fall, they're obviously assigning more undecideds to the Hillary camp than they are to the Trump camp. So I just wanted to mention, if you see the Reuters poll and it shows Hillary up by 12, remember they've done away with the undecided aspect.
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RUSH: Nathan in Lynchburg, Virginia. You're first today. It's great to have you on the EIB Network. Hi.
CALLER: Hi, Rush. How you doing, man?
RUSH: Very well, sir. Thank you.
CALLER: Hey, I was born in 1978, and I grew up with Reagan. I loved him, as I knew him as a child. It was a really good time. I remember a lot of good things about those days. I didn't really get involved in politics, and I have never voted before in my life. I just registered, and the ironic part is it, I had a liberal friend who's campaigning for Sanders, that loved Sanders so much. She believed in democracy and in voting, and she convinced me to go ahead and do it, all the first time. As soon as I saw that Trump was running, I said, "There is a chance," and I told everybody around me, all, my friends.
Because I would always pick on them, 'cause they voted and I didn't believe in the system. I picked on them all the time about it, and I said, "You know what? I'm gonna register and I'm gonna vote this year." This is gonna be the first time that I've ever voted, and it's not so much that my beliefs about the system and the rigged system -- as Trump says. He just speaks my language, and I truly believe that he is Reaganesque, and I believe that he can do something because he's not a politician. And I do believe in Trump. And I tell you, it takes a lot for me to believe in someone.
RUSH: Well, what was it about...? I mean, you grew up as a child; you admired, you liked Reagan in the eighties. I agree with you. I mean, even though I got fired a bunch of times, those are good times. Those are good economic times. The country seemed solid. But what is it? You went through that, then you got soured on everything. What was it soured you on it so that you didn't want to register and participate?
CALLER: The first Bush, he was... He seemed to me to be weak and impotent and old and, like, feckless altogether. And, you know, I was young at the time, but I could probably have voted for him. And then Clinton came along and then the second Bush, and the second Bush was nothing but a trap. And I wouldn't call myself a Republican. I would never classify myself as a Republican, especially nowadays. But I would lean more towards being a conservative.
RUSH: Yeah?
CALLER: The Libertarians are just full of it. They're just wannabe Tea Partiers. I like the Tea Party but I could never really back them.
RUSH: What about the Alt-Right guys? You like the Alt-Righters?
CALLER: Yeah. Yeah.
RUSH: Well, you might want to revise that later, but we'll take it for now. But still, Trump's excited you and has made you want to get engaged and get involved and participate for the first time. Is that basically the upshot of it?
CALLER: Yeah, that is it. And, you know what? I probably will never vote again after this one, unless someone like Trump comes along who speaks my language, who knows the problems and is not afraid to say it.
RUSH: Okay, we'll throw that in the hopper. He's representative of the kind of people that Robert Costa's talking about out there in the Washington Post.
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So basically Limbaugh is chortling with glee over the same insanity displayed by Trump supporters that Obama supporters have for their political messiah: nothing he says or does matters. He is their god and they worship him.
It's the reason why I no longer listen to Limbaugh.
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Rush's too-clever-by-half, fence-sitting act is getting old.
What good is he?
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Rush's too-clever-by-half, fence-sitting act is getting old.
What good is he?
No. Better question is:
What is he good for?
Absolutely nothing.
Say it again.
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I have never seen such contortions from Rush trying to explain voters for the GOP nominee before. One day he is running with stories about how there is some undetected underground of support for Donny. After he is called out for pimping BS pipe dreams he claims he was just reporting the news. What a load of shit.
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Rush's too-clever-by-half, fence-sitting act is getting old.
What good is he?
I have been an admirer of Rush for years. No longer.
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Rush's too-clever-by-half, fence-sitting act is getting old.
What good is he?
Rush is and has always been an entertainer.
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Rush's too-clever-by-half, fence-sitting act is getting old.
What good is he?
what fence-sitting? He is a devout Trumpist. He is having intimate relations with that fence, he's only pretending to sit on it
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I have been an admirer of Rush for years. No longer.
Nor I.
He has betrayed his Conservative audience by refusing to address Trump's hard core liberalism during the primaries and embracing him fully now.
I'm one who is disappointed, and have stopped listening altogether.
And will never listen again.
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Rush is and has always been an entertainer.
Yes. But he's always been an entertainer who espoused conservatism.
No longer.
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Trump will be the death of conservative talk radio IMO.
Already the old farts that listen to it are slowly dying off. Young people don't want to listen to garbage like this.
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Yes. But he's always been an entertainer who espoused conservatism.
No longer.
Trump makes it difficult.
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I don't really listen to any talk radio.
There are too many other sources of information out there.
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Trump will be the death of conservative talk radio IMO.
Already the old farts that listen to it are slowly dying off. Young people don't want to listen to garbage like this.
Trump will be the death of Conservatism itself, period.
It is what he was sent to do. Divide it. Destroy it. Remake it into an image the Ruling Class prefers. Send the rest into total irrelevance.
In this, Trump has succeeded.
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Trump will be the death of Conservatism itself, period.
It is what he was sent to do. Divide it. Destroy it. Remake it into an image the Ruling Class prefers. Send the rest into total irrelevance.
In this, Trump has succeeded.
I see some seem fixated on using Trump to do the same with Christianity.
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what fence-sitting? He is a devout Trumpist. He is having intimate relations with that fence, he's only pretending to sit on it
He was squarely on the fence regarding the candidates during the primaries and now he's riding it ideologically - still calling himself a constitutional conservative while pimping a NY liberal.
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He was squarely on the fence regarding the candidates during the primaries and now he's riding it ideologically - still calling himself a constitutional conservative while pimping a NY liberal.
Not really, he spent a lot of time defending Trump knowing the man is a liberal. That is not on the fence that is advocacy.
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Trump makes it difficult.
I suppose....
Trump is, after all, an entertainer himself, and a first class narcissist, so I suppose it's hard for a guy like Rush not to talk about him for 3 hours every stinking day...... **nononono*
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Trump will be the death of conservative talk radio IMO.
Already the old farts that listen to it are slowly dying off. Young people don't want to listen to garbage like this.
Well, I for one, find it freeing to not listen to any talk radio, nor to watch Fox News.
It consumed far too much of my time, and there are much more constructive ways to spend it.
It's refreshing, actually......
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Rush has often talked about what happens to newly elected Congressional Representatives and Senators. They start our very principled, but then they get swallowed up in Washington DC and the beliefs and principles take a back seat to being "in" with those that have the most power and the perks that come along with that ... getting invited to the cocktail parties, etc.
IMO, what we have seen in the last year regarding Rush is Rush demonstrating his own theory. His golfing buddy could be in the White House, and now he has the chance to be part of that "in" crowd and get invited to all of those great parties.
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Not really, he spent a lot of time defending Trump knowing the man is a liberal. That is not on the fence that is advocacy.
Yes he did. He also said that Cruz was the conservatives conservative. But then he never followed the compliment up with any kind of endorsement.
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I wonder if Rush has an exit plan?
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Yes he did. He also said that Cruz was the conservatives conservative. But then he never followed the compliment up with any kind of endorsement.
It took Mark Levin a long time but Trump's attacks on Rafael and Heidi Cruz pushed him over the edge.
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Yes he did. He also said that Cruz was the conservatives conservative. But then he never followed the compliment up with any kind of endorsement.
He gave Cruz hardly any airtime, aside from that one compliment. He spent an inordinate amount of time defending Trump, trying to spin away why Trump said one thing but meant another.
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He gave Cruz hardly any airtime, aside from that one compliment. He spent an inordinate amount of time defending Trump, trying to spin away why Trump said one thing but meant another.
The times I listened it was about 2 hours and 59 minutes Trump, and 1 minute Cruz.
It was disgusting.
And VERY liberal.
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The times I listened it was about 2 hours and 59 minutes Trump, and 1 minute Cruz.
It was disgusting.
And VERY liberal.
One of the excuses the media used for not giving Ted Cruz airtime was "He refused" but unlike Trump, Ted Cruz wasn't a billionaire who lived in NY and could fly to a rally in Iowa and return to NY that afternoon and do an interview. They also were unwilling to let Ted Cruz do phone interviews while they let Trump do them anytime he liked.
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So basically Limbaugh is chortling with glee over the same insanity displayed by Trump supporters that Obama supporters have for their political messiah: nothing he says or does matters. He is their god and they worship him.
It's the reason why I no longer listen to Limbaugh.
I don't know what happened to Limbaugh.
But then, I never understood cults. Seemingly sane, rational and educated people fall into cults...often dangerous and lethal cults.
This isn't Jim-Jones lethal; and probably Trump is going to be not-as-horrific as the alternative; but the whole reason he IS there is because of this crazy cult of personality around a loud, obnoxious, low-intelligence preppie type...who got the credentials from universities without, somehow, going beyond Fifth Grade level in English vocabulary.
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Trump will be the death of conservative talk radio IMO.
Already the old farts that listen to it are slowly dying off. Young people don't want to listen to garbage like this.
Nope.
Cultism; and the sacrificing of credibility, will be what kills it.
Limbaugh has never pimped a candidate like this before. Certainly not one who was objectively liberal...sure, he led cheers for McCain, but only as the Republican's choice and only because the alternative was so much worse. Not like this.
It's not old farts and they are not dying off. It's educated farts; we're middle aged and older because the universities today are indoctrination camps which teach MARXISM. We are moving into Idiocracy; and young people's embracing of The Daily Show and other non-news news sources, show how credulous and uninformed they are.
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It took Mark Levin a long time but Trump's attacks on Rafael and Heidi Cruz pushed him over the edge.
Levin was at first impressed with Trump's seeming to break PC rules.
What he didn't know was that it was just a game. What Trump seemed to learn was that the more outrageous he would be, the more the fans loved him.
The wrong lesson, in other words. Calling illegals what they are is a GOOD thing. Slapping around reporters is probably something that should be done, given their dishonest, classless behaviors.
Mocking a female candidates appearance...not so cool. I had no love for the Fiorina woman; she was wrecking Hewlett-Packard so badly she was paid millions TO LEAVE. That is not a recommendation for another responsible Chief Executive job. So...I took it under consideration.
Cruz was another matter. Trump could have attacked on issues, or stances, or past actions. NO...he GINNED UP LIES. Easily-proved lies. And that, was that.
For myself; and as it happened, for Levin. We needed talk about issues; and instead we got a bad Muhammed Ali impersonation.
And it's just gotten worse. It's pretty obvious that in the brains and education department, Trump is the Emperor with his New Clothes.
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I wonder if Rush has an exit plan?
He can retire with a Trump loss in November
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He can retire with a Trump loss in November
I think I just read that he signed on for another 5 years.
Yep, found it: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/290106-rush-limbaugh-signs-multi-year-extension
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I think I just read that he signed on for another 5 years.
Yep, found it: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/290106-rush-limbaugh-signs-multi-year-extension
He can only survive if Hillary wins.
If Trump wins and "governs" as the corrupt liberal that he is, Rush won't have a single listener because he's partly responsible for putting a leftist in office. If Hillary wins, he can do another anti-Clinton replay and survive.
Perhaps that's why he pushed Trump so hard. He wants Clinton to win too??
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He can only survive if Hillary wins.
If Trump wins and "governs" as the corrupt liberal that he is, Rush won't have a single listener because he's partly responsible for putting a leftist in office. If Hillary wins, he can do another anti-Clinton replay and survive.
Perhaps that's why he pushed Trump so hard. He wants Clinton to win too??
The last Clinton administration - the 90s - were Limbaugh's salad days. Makes you wonder.
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The last Clinton administration - the 90s - were Limbaugh's salad days. Makes you wonder.
Actually, when you factor in the fact that he is first and foremost an entertainer, it makes his support for a loser leftist posing as a Republican a little more understandable.
Maybe he knows Trump can't win, and really does want another Clinton.
The problem for Rush is that, once you've betrayed your listeners' trust as he has, pretty much anything becomes a possibility.
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Limbaugh did better under Republican Presidents than he did under Clinton.
Satire and commentary are timeless and without party affiliation. And Limbaugh, faced with the ridiculousness of Democrat absurdity becoming POLICY, he tends to be less humorous and more shrill and strident.
His success doesn't, or didn't, depend on which party is in power. They depended on the factual nature of his satire and his incisive commentary.
That goes out the window with this Trump cheerleading. And actually...should be be so lucky as to avoid a Rodham Presidency...the reality of how incompetent and in-over-his-head Trump is, with Limbaugh's description of such a CLEVER guy, knowing what he was doing, each step of the way...THAT will destroy his credibility.
It already has, for me. I see Trump and I see a jackass trying to win a popularity contest; a man with no principles, who doesn't understand government or the office he's seeking.
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I wonder if Rush has an exit plan?
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Rush is and has always been an entertainer.
Precisely.
And in order to keep an audience entertained and maintain ratings (and his job), he has to have something to rant about. He has to continually stir things up, no matter who is in office. I have been amazed for years at loyal fans who take him seriously.
Funny thing is that I checked TOS this morning, and they're fed up with him, too -- for the moment. Comments there echo comments on this thread, an unlikely point of agreement in an otherwise contentious relationship.