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Alana Mastrangelo 14 Jan 2020
A shocking new poll has discovered that 47 percent of young Democrats believe that other countries are better than the United States. Moreover, many young Americans admit that they wouldn’t mind other countries becoming as militarily powerful as the United States.
Slightly more than one third — 36 percent — of Americans 18 to 29 say that other countries are better than the United States, according to a recent poll released by Pew Research.
Among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents under the age of 30, nearly half, 47 percent, say that there are other countries that are better than the U.S. Meanwhile, just 20 percent of Democrats age 50 and over agree with this sentiment.
“Democrats have become more likely to say there are other countries that are better than the U.S.,†says Pew Research. “In telephone surveys, the share of Democrats saying this is higher than at any point since the question was first asked by Pew Research Center in 2011, and there has been a corresponding decline in the share saying the U.S. stands above other nations.†This poll demonstrates the dramatic shift in the Democrat party’s base, and the potential schism between traditional Democrat voters and young and woke progressives.
The study also noted that young Americans are “more likely to say it would be acceptable if another country became as militarily powerful as the U.S.â€
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/01/14/poll-47-of-young-democrats-prefer-other-countries-over-america/ (https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/01/14/poll-47-of-young-democrats-prefer-other-countries-over-america/)
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Is there a way to faciltate that request? I'd chip in.
A millenial democrat..... A worst case scenario
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I'd prefer them to live in other countries.
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Well, bye!
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I'd prefer them to live in other countries.
Doubt it. If they were anywhere but America. I cannot imagine they would survive.
They would be in jail or a mental institution in no time.
"But, but, a man can menstrate! A man can be a woman,
if he believes it really super-dog double dog cross my heart believes it."
These guys would be locked up in a loony-bin in weeks.
"Why can't a man get pregnant? Of course they can!"
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I used to watch House Hunters international, a show about people looking for homes in foreign countries. The show is largely fabricated, although the premise of people moving to these countries is real. Some are moving for work or school, but many of them "always dreamed of living in X country." Maybe they visited the country once or always heard what a great place it is to live.
I wonder how many of those who relocated because they thought a certain country would be better than the US have returned home because they found out their dream country wasn't so wonderful after all. Too bad I've never seen a follow-up on how many of those people featured on House Hunters International came back to the US.
Not a world traveler, but I've visited a few countries in my younger days. They were great countries to visit because for many of these countries, tourism is a major industry. So of course, these countries put their best foot forward to impress the tourists. But all of them had downsides, some of which were major, and these downsides were never presented to the tourists. I think these people who believe other countries are better than the US have never bothered to consider the disadvantages of living outside the US.
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Why go elsewhere when what they really want is to Bleep-up the USA?
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I used to watch House Hunters international, a show about people looking for homes in foreign countries. The show is largely fabricated, although the premise of people moving to these countries is real. Some are moving for work or school, but many of them "always dreamed of living in X country." Maybe they visited the country once or always heard what a great place it is to live.
I wonder how many of those who relocated because they thought a certain country would be better than the US have returned home because they found out their dream country wasn't so wonderful after all. Too bad I've never seen a follow-up on how many of those people featured on House Hunters International came back to the US.
Not a world traveler, but I've visited a few countries in my younger days. They were great countries to visit because for many of these countries, tourism is a major industry. So of course, these countries put their best foot forward to impress the tourists. But all of them had downsides, some of which were major, and these downsides were never presented to the tourists. I think these people who believe other countries are better than the US have never bothered to consider the disadvantages of living outside the US.
I've visited Britain four or five times since 2006 visiting my wife's sisters in England and Scotland. The average stay has been two or three weeks at a crack.
Britain is a nice country, and I even like the food.
Nevertheless, after about a week I couldn't wait to get on a plane and get back home.
One huge reason is the feeling of constantly living in a cramped country. The houses are smaller, the cars are smaller, the roads narrower, and there are no wide open spaces.
Would a person living in a third world country think they'd arrived in paradise if they'd managed to secure a life in Britain? Very possibly so. Clean, neat, orderly, and little fear of crime. The countryside is pretty, and the views are often spectacular if you're in Scotland.
Plus, I saw very little evidence of a Muslim takeover even after staying in London a number of days during different visits including one whole week one time.
But for someone who is used to much larger accommodations, it's very difficult to live smaller.
There are other reasons to prefer being an American, like not worrying about getting thrown into jail for saying something derogatory about certain people. That can happen in Britain if the wrong person overhears you.
Let's just say I'm very proud and happy to be an American no matter what liberal nutcases are trying
their hardest to destroy what The Founders created.
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I say they should go. They'll be back. They are so enamored by the lure of "free stuff" they fail to see the cost.
I can't say I'm widely traveled. But I can't think of a country I would want to live in.
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This type of thinking is not new. I seem to recall Democrats remarking on what wonderful things Germany was doing for its people in the 1930s.
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Alana Mastrangelo 14 Jan 2020
A shocking new poll has discovered that 47 percent of young Democrats believe that other countries are better than the United States. Moreover, many young Americans admit that they wouldn’t mind other countries becoming as militarily powerful as the United States.
Slightly more than one third — 36 percent — of Americans 18 to 29 say that other countries are better than the United States, according to a recent poll released by Pew Research.
Among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents under the age of 30, nearly half, 47 percent, say that there are other countries that are better than the U.S. Meanwhile, just 20 percent of Democrats age 50 and over agree with this sentiment.
“Democrats have become more likely to say there are other countries that are better than the U.S.,†says Pew Research. “In telephone surveys, the share of Democrats saying this is higher than at any point since the question was first asked by Pew Research Center in 2011, and there has been a corresponding decline in the share saying the U.S. stands above other nations.†This poll demonstrates the dramatic shift in the Democrat party’s base, and the potential schism between traditional Democrat voters and young and woke progressives.
The study also noted that young Americans are “more likely to say it would be acceptable if another country became as militarily powerful as the U.S.â€
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/01/14/poll-47-of-young-democrats-prefer-other-countries-over-america/ (https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/01/14/poll-47-of-young-democrats-prefer-other-countries-over-america/)
Brainwashed useful idiots with heads full of "mush" (and I'm being nice here :laugh:). And just think... it only took America's enemy without 60 years (another generation) to pull off one of their main agenda items and goals.....
with the help of America's enemy within, le DemocRats.
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I'd prefer them to live in other countries.
Looking at current demographic trends I'd be entirely unsurprised to find out most young Democrats CAME from other countries.
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I'm hoping that they'll all move before the next election. :2popcorn:
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Brainwashed useful idiots with heads full of "mush" (and I'm being nice here :laugh:). And just think... it only took America's enemy without 60 years (another generation) to pull off one of their main agenda items and goals.....
with the help of America's enemy within, le DemocRats.
We have ourselves to blame. We have an Education Secretary, and it should have been addressed in our public schools. They should have been stopping the socialism indoctrination long ago.
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Looking at current demographic trends I'd be entirely unsurprised to find out most young Democrats CAME from other countries.
Are you ignorant of the Communist training these young Democrats are getting at the Universities?
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I say they should go. They'll be back. They are so enamored by the lure of "free stuff" they fail to see the cost.
I can't say I'm widely traveled. But I can't think of a country I would want to live in.
If I had to choose a country outside of America to live in it would hands down be Hungary.
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If I had to choose a country outside of America to live in it would hands down be Hungary.
I was thinkin Texas.
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I was thinkin Texas.
You spelled California wrong Romes.
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I say they should go. They'll be back. They are so enamored by the lure of "free stuff" they fail to see the cost.
I can't say I'm widely traveled. But I can't think of a country I would want to live in.
I thank Almighty God every day that I was born here.
But if 47% of the Democrats left for 'greener pastures', It'd sure make it easier to get this place back on track.
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You spelled California wrong Romes.
Ah it was just a joke anyhow... You'll never find me south of Utah. Actually, if I had to beat feet it would be Alberta or the Northern Territories. :shrug:
Too many snakes in Texas anyway.
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Ah it was just a joke anyhow... You'll never find me south of Utah. Actually, if I had to beat feet it would be Alberta or the Northern Territories. :shrug:
Too many snakes in Texas anyway.
Texas aint bad. The snakes are in Travis county. A cesspool of vipers! "}
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Texas aint bad. The snakes are in Travis county. A cesspool of vipers! "}
Well, I am used to getting drunk and passing out just about anywhere... with no (unexpected) adverse effects... No snakes, no scorpions. Not a single damn lizard anywhere. I like that.
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Are you ignorant of the Communist training these young Democrats are getting at the Universities?
Are you talkin to me?
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Are you talkin to me?
Travis Bickle?
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Texas aint bad. The snakes are in Travis county. A cesspool of vipers! "}
And bats. Don't forget the bats in Travis.
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And bats. Don't forget the bats in Travis.
👍They usually start to emerge from the bridge around 20 minutes before sundown.
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Buh-bye, young democommies. Don't let the door hit you in your brain.
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Are you talkin to me?
Yes, I was. They are homegrown. Raised in socialist public schools and sent to our finest Communist training centers (Universities).
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/communist-propaganda-has-infiltrated-more-than-100-us-colleges-posing-as-chinese-language-institute (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/communist-propaganda-has-infiltrated-more-than-100-us-colleges-posing-as-chinese-language-institute)
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/opposing-communist-chinese-spies-isnt-racist/ (https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/opposing-communist-chinese-spies-isnt-racist/)
Commentary
We Have Become the Communist States of America
https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/j-matt-barber/we-have-become-communist-states-america (https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/j-matt-barber/we-have-become-communist-states-america)
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We have ourselves to blame. We have an Education Secretary, and it should have been addressed in our public schools. They should have been stopping the socialism indoctrination long ago.
Make up your mind. Are you blaming the current Education Secretary or the twenty that came before her?
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Make up your mind. Are you blaming the current Education Secretary or the twenty that came before her?
The whole twenty years including these last three.
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I thought the federal Department of Education was going to be dissolved and the responsibility for education transferred to the states? Was that another broken campaign promise?
In government, nothing is ever temporary.
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I've visited Britain four or five times since 2006 visiting my wife's sisters in England and Scotland. The average stay has been two or three weeks at a crack.
Britain is a nice country, and I even like the food.
Nevertheless, after about a week I couldn't wait to get on a plane and get back home.
One huge reason is the feeling of constantly living in a cramped country. The houses are smaller, the cars are smaller, the roads narrower, and there are no wide open spaces.
Would a person living in a third world country think they'd arrived in paradise if they'd managed to secure a life in Britain? Very possibly so. Clean, neat, orderly, and little fear of crime. The countryside is pretty, and the views are often spectacular if you're in Scotland.
Plus, I saw very little evidence of a Muslim takeover even after staying in London a number of days during different visits including one whole week one time.
But for someone who is used to much larger accommodations, it's very difficult to live smaller.
There are other reasons to prefer being an American, like not worrying about getting thrown into jail for saying something derogatory about certain people. That can happen in Britain if the wrong person overhears you.
Let's just say I'm very proud and happy to be an American no matter what liberal nutcases are trying
their hardest to destroy what The Founders created.
I travelled to England in 2012 on a business trip. I flew into Manchester and took two trains to the city of Hull (Kingston Upon Hull) located in North Riding of Yorkshire. Granted it was a working trip, I did manage some sightseeing in Hull. I’d love to go back. Everyone I met, with the exception of one sort of snooty hotel desk clerk, were absolutely lovely, friendly, upon hearing my “accent†wanted to know from where I was in the US.
I had the most wonderful conversation with the driver of the car I hired to take me back to the Manchester airport. A young married man who was with his wife expecting a baby. And “conservative†too. We talked about TV, movies, video games and a lot about guns and hunting. He told me he and his wife really wanted to come to the US on a “holidayâ€, what we call a vacation and how he wanted to visit among many places, Texas. He wanted to go to a ranch where he could ride horses, drive cattle and shoot guns. : )
If found the food was excellent too. Nothing beats a traditional Full English breakfast and real Fish and Chips with Mushy Peas…yum.
On the train ride I was amazed the amount of wide open country side there was. Beautiful rolling hills dotted with little stone farm houses and stone fences surrounding pastures of grazing sheep – right out of a picture post card. At one point I looked out of the train window to see the ruins of a castle sitting on top of a hill. I looked it up and it was the ruins of a Norman castle date to the mid 1100’s - Peveril Castle.
And in Hull, the only “minorities†I saw were a few Asian tourists and some Sikhs who I presume lived there. Everyone else, quite a lot were blonde haired and blue eyed, not surprising since this area of England was for quite some time ruled by the Danes.
I’m planning to take a vacation to York and a day or overnight trip to Edinburgh. But then I’m much interested in English history from the Iron Age, the Romans, Anglo Saxons, Normans and Tudors.
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Sample question from the poll....
We'd like to get your feelings toward a number of people on a “feeling thermometer.†A rating of zero degrees means you feel as cold and negative as possible. A rating of 100 degrees means you feel as warm and positive as possible. You would rate the person at 50 degrees if you don’t feel particularly positive or negative toward them.
https://www.people-press.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/12/PP_2019.12.17_Political-Values_TOPLINE.pdf (https://www.people-press.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/12/PP_2019.12.17_Political-Values_TOPLINE.pdf)
Looks to me more of click bait than a real sign of the times.
To be fair, I think the media is giving folks a negative view of the US, not the education system.
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I travelled to England in 2012 on a business trip. I flew into Manchester and took two trains to the city of Hull (Kingston Upon Hull) located in North Riding of Yorkshire. Granted it was a working trip, I did manage some sightseeing in Hull. I’d love to go back. Everyone I met, with the exception of one sort of snooty hotel desk clerk, were absolutely lovely, friendly, upon hearing my “accent†wanted to know from where I was in the US.
I had the most wonderful conversation with the driver of the car I hired to take me back to the Manchester airport. A young married man who was with his wife expecting a baby. And “conservative†too. We talked about TV, movies, video games and a lot about guns and hunting. He told me he and his wife really wanted to come to the US on a “holidayâ€, what we call a vacation and how he wanted to visit among many places, Texas. He wanted to go to a ranch where he could ride horses, drive cattle and shoot guns. : )
If found the food was excellent too. Nothing beats a traditional Full English breakfast and real Fish and Chips with Mushy Peas…yum.
On the train ride I was amazed the amount of wide open country side there was. Beautiful rolling hills dotted with little stone farm houses and stone fences surrounding pastures of grazing sheep – right out of a picture post card. At one point I looked out of the train window to see the ruins of a castle sitting on top of a hill. I looked it up and it was the ruins of a Norman castle date to the mid 1100’s - Peveril Castle.
And in Hull, the only “minorities†I saw were a few Asian tourists and some Sikhs who I presume lived there. Everyone else, quite a lot were blonde haired and blue eyed, not surprising since this area of England was for quite some time ruled by the Danes.
I’m planning to take a vacation to York and a day or overnight trip to Edinburgh. But then I’m much interested in English history from the Iron Age, the Romans, Anglo Saxons, Normans and Tudors.
"If found the food was excellent too. Nothing beats a traditional Full English breakfast and real Fish and Chips with Mushy Peas…yum."
Yes, I like a number of traditional English dishes including fish and chips, the Cornish pasty, shepherd's pie, and even bangers and mash (sausages and mashed potatoes.)
But my favorite has to be fish and chips which the British do hands down better than Americans.
And interestingly you mentioned mushy peas which are not just green peas mashed but made with some sort of spice/flavoring.
I love mushy peas, but neither by English-raised wife or my Brit in-laws like it. They're from southern England, and they claim mushy peas is a northern thing they didn't grow up eating.
Love them mushy peas with my fish and chips.
Alas, I can't find mushy peas in my local grocery stores in the U.S.
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I don't know why anyone would be surprised by this. After all,they hate America.
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Yes, I was. They are homegrown. Raised in socialist public schools and sent to our finest Communist training centers (Universities).
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/communist-propaganda-has-infiltrated-more-than-100-us-colleges-posing-as-chinese-language-institute (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/communist-propaganda-has-infiltrated-more-than-100-us-colleges-posing-as-chinese-language-institute)
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/opposing-communist-chinese-spies-isnt-racist/ (https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/opposing-communist-chinese-spies-isnt-racist/)
Commentary
We Have Become the Communist States of America
https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/j-matt-barber/we-have-become-communist-states-america (https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/j-matt-barber/we-have-become-communist-states-america)
Obviously the larger percentage are indigenous. But the percentage of young people who were born elsewhere is growing every year and they are going to school here as well.
Not that it makes any difference.
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Well, I am used to getting drunk and passing out just about anywhere... with no (unexpected) adverse effects... No snakes, no scorpions. Not a single damn lizard anywhere. I like that.
No snakes, scorpions? That sounds pretty attractive @roamer_1 But it is just so d@@n cold there. My arthritis would be in overdrive. And I do think you said there are BEARS. OMGGGGGGG Besides, it's kinda fun evading the snakes and scorpions...and lizards. Liberal Cali folk wouldn't enjoy it . wink777
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I thank Almighty God every day that I was born here.
But if 47% of the Democrats left for 'greener pastures', It'd sure make it easier to get this place back on track.
maybe ur onto something.
How about anybody wanting to live in another country be given a one way ticket and $10k with the stipulation citizenship is revoked and no Visa allowed for a return visit for say 5 years?
Anybody accepting is a liberal suspect. After 5 years living in shitholes might even improve their perspective in coming back here.
Would improve the citizenry cheaply.
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No snakes, scorpions? That sounds pretty attractive @roamer_1 But it is just so d@@n cold there. My arthritis would be in overdrive. And I do think you said there are BEARS. OMGGGGGGG Besides, it's kinda fun evading the snakes and scorpions...and lizards. Liberal Cali folk wouldn't enjoy it . wink777
That's the wonderful part about living in Arizona. We have Tarantulas as big as your hand and Gila Monsters. I, personally have a population of Roadrunners and Coyotes wandering my property.
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I, personally have a population of Roadrunners and Coyotes wandering my property.
You live on the Warner Bros back lot?
Beep Beep.
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You live on the Warner Bros back lot?
Beep Beep.
It's nothing like in the movies. Except the Roadrunners are faster than the Yotes in the short run. That part's true. And I keep an eye peeled for falling safes and anvils from Acme.
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And I keep an eye peeled for falling safes and anvils from Acme.
Very prudent! You never know when one of those might conk you right on the noggin.
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No snakes, scorpions? That sounds pretty attractive @roamer_1
Yes, @berdie , it is... And more than its glory, with the exception of ticks and beaver fever, everything that wants to eat you is big enough to see, and too big to hide in cracks or crawl in your boot... I go barefoot all the time with never a care, except for Chewy's yard art.
But it is just so d@@n cold there. My arthritis would be in overdrive.
You and me both darlin... Stock up on turmeric and moringa...
Actually I like the cold. Makes a reason for a wood fire, and that is a wonderful thing for arthritis.
I dunno, really... It's kinda like trapping in the winter... wading in ice cold water... You get used to it. :shrug:
And besides... While you're down there bakin in the 100s, it hardly gets 90s here, and the shade works. summertime is marvelous. What a great week that is. :laugh:
And I do think you said there are BEARS.
Just a big hairy wild pig... So they tell me... I wouldn't know, as I have never seen a wild pig in my life. But I bet you have. Nothin to worry about. just bring a dog and a gun. That'd be a BIG dog to you, I'd reckon... Likely you'll need neither. I have only had three really bad times with bears. One of them wound up with a dead bear, never have lost a dog to a bear, though I have had to stitch em up from time to time, and one bad enough I packed him out on my shoulders, but a cougar did that. See? hardly nothin in 50 something years...
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Besides, it's kinda fun evading the snakes and scorpions...and lizards. Liberal Cali folk wouldn't enjoy it . wink777
Yeah.. That's winter here... The woods kinda fill up with hippies from time to time... Then we get a real winter with 4' of snow on the ground and -20 or more for a month or two... It's like magic. Come spring, POOF! They're gone.
Did I mention we ain't got cockroaches? Nary a one.
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@roamer_1
We used to get roaches every couple of years when the city did sewer cleanouts, but now I have a septic system and...no roaches!
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@roamer_1
We used to get roaches every couple of years when the city did sewer cleanouts, but now I have a septic system and...no roaches!
@Cyber Liberty
The only time there are roaches here is when folks move from back east or something like that, carrying em with em to infest a house. But they cannot survive outside. So a bug bomb makes short work of it.
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@Cyber Liberty
The only time there are roaches here is when folks move from back east or something like that, carrying em with em to infest a house. But they cannot survive outside. So a bug bomb makes short work of it.
Well, this is a wonderful feature of living away from the big city in a Castle. They tell me as long as I throw Rid-X down the toilet monthly and eschew Chlorine bleach I'm golden. The system was thoroughly checked out when I bought the house. It certainly gets warm enough for the bacteria down there in our Summer warm spell.
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You and me both darlin... Stock up on turmeric and moringa...
Actually I like the cold. Makes a reason for a wood fire, and that is a wonderful thing for arthritis.
I dunno, really... It's kinda like trapping in the winter... wading in ice cold water... You get used to it. :shrug:
Just a big hairy wild pig... So they tell me... I wouldn't know, as I have never seen a wild pig in my life. But I bet you have. Nothin to worry about. just bring a dog and a gun. That'd be a BIG dog to you, I'd reckon... Likely you'll need neither. I have only had three really bad times with bears. One of them wound up with a dead bear, never have lost a dog to a bear, though I have had to stitch em up from time to time, and one bad enough I packed him out on my shoulders, but a cougar did that. See? hardly nothin in 50 something years...
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Did I mention we ain't got cockroaches? Nary a one.
No cockroaches??? Sounds better every minute. I'll get 'em no matter how clean I am. How about fire ants?
I'm familiar with turmeric @roamer_1 but don't know about moringa. I'll check it out.
I'm not sure about the analogy between ferals and bears. :shrug: It could be. I, like you, had to stitch one of my dogs up after he thought he was King Kong and tangled with a feral. The stitching wasn't too bad since he was too worn out to fight. The removal of the stitches was...stormy.
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No cockroaches??? Sounds better every minute. I'll get 'em no matter how clean I am. How about fire ants?
@berdie
Heh. No fire ants, no chiggers, no nothin... Other than bees, yellow jackets and bald-faced hornets, no stinging anything. You can lay on the ground under a shady tree (or about anywhere else) and just have a nap. No worries. No poison ivy, no poison oak, no poison nothin... Thistle, king thistle, and nettles are around, but that's about it.
I'm familiar with turmeric @roamer_1 but don't know about moringa. I'll check it out.
Helps a lot of folks... not me in particular, but most arthritic folks see good effects.
I'm not sure about the analogy between ferals and bears. :shrug: It could be. I, like you, had to stitch one of my dogs up after he thought he was King Kong and tangled with a feral. The stitching wasn't too bad since he was too worn out to fight. The removal of the stitches was...stormy.
It's pretty common with Huskies, especially in a group... They'll get in a pissin match and throw a melee... And you pretty well have to wade in there and beat em apart with a club before any of them get dead. I got pretty good at stitchin em.
Same takin the stitching back out... Just hog tie em, sit on their head, and get to work :shrug:
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I was thinkin Texas.
Nothing wrong with Texas, except for that rot working it's way out from the universities and that border thingy with Mexico.
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I'm stunned. Shocked, even.
It's only 47%? Among young Democrats. That means 53% of young Democrats, the least patriotic of any demographic in America, still prefer this country. I would have never thought!
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I'm stunned. Shocked, even.
It's only 47%? Among young Democrats. That means 53% of young Democrats, the least patriotic of any demographic in America, still prefer this country. I would have never thought!
GMTA. Ya know, that was my first thought when I spotted this story.... :yowsa:
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I'm stunned. Shocked, even.
It's only 47%? Among young Democrats. That means 53% of young Democrats, the least patriotic of any demographic in America, still prefer this country. I would have never thought!
@jmyrlefuller
I'm wondering what it would take to get that 47 percent to leave the country,IE "Make America Great Again."
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View from close to Dad's Farm....
(https://i.postimg.cc/q7KPdVjH/Lookout.jpg)
Shoot a gun, take a leak, run naked if you don't mind a few skitter bites (few hundred in summer). Only real critters to worry about is black bears, but they have only ran from me so far.
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Nothing wrong with Texas, except for that rot working it's way out from the universities and that border thingy with Mexico.
Same dang thing up here, man... College towns (Missoula, Bozeman) are whacko liberal - as is Helena, the state capitol... The big towns (Billings, Great Falls, Butte) east of the hump too... There's a fair Conservative conclave in the Bozeman area, but for the most part, the farmers east of the hump vote Dem. West of the hump is generally hard core Conservative, with a smattering of liberal conclaves.
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Same dang thing up here, man... College towns (Missoula, Bozeman) are whacko liberal - as is Helena, the state capitol... The big towns (Billings, Great Falls, Butte) east of the hump too... There's a fair Conservative conclave in the Bozeman area, but for the most part, the farmers east of the hump vote Dem. West of the hump is generally hard core Conservative, with a smattering of liberal conclaves.
Big part of the East side is reservation, too. Don't know why they vote Dem, excepting for handouts and habit. The oil patch is pretty much GOP country.
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Same dang thing up here, man... College towns (Missoula, Bozeman) are whacko liberal - as is Helena, the state capitol... The big towns (Billings, Great Falls, Butte) east of the hump too... There's a fair Conservative conclave in the Bozeman area, but for the most part, the farmers east of the hump vote Dem. West of the hump is generally hard core Conservative, with a smattering of liberal conclaves.
"the farmers east of the hump vote Dem."
Interesting....why is that?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Montana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Montana)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Montana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Montana)
I don't think that's right... We have had a Democrat senator elected east of the mountains as long as I have been alive. Currently Testercle. Eastern farmer, by the way... Whacko-liberal as the day is long. If they come from east of the hump, they will be Dem and they will get elected.
The other way around on the west side... Pretty much if they come from west of the hump, they won't get elected unless they're a Republican.
Same goes in the house, and the governorship is a craps-shoot.
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"the farmers east of the hump vote Dem."
Interesting....why is that?
Because their daddy did? :shrug:
I REALLY have no idea. A lot of the east side is influenced by their big cities. Well, big to us anyway... :shrug:
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View from close to Dad's Farm....
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Shoot a gun, take a leak, run naked if you don't mind a few skitter bites (few hundred in summer). Only real critters to worry about is black bears, but they have only ran from me so far.
Well dang it put your clothes back on then. happy77
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I don't think that's right... We have had a Democrat senator elected east of the mountains as long as I have been alive. Currently Testercle. Eastern farmer, by the way... Whacko-liberal as the day is long. If they come from east of the hump, they will be Dem and they will get elected.
The other way around on the west side... Pretty much if they come from west of the hump, they won't get elected unless they're a Republican.
Same goes in the house, and the governorship is a craps-shoot.
That was the presidential election. in the others (governor) https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/governor/montana/ (https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/governor/montana/)
House of Representatives: https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/house/montana/ (https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/house/montana/)
2018 general election (MT legislature) it seems the seats went to Democrats in the bigger towns (in the west), which outnumber the eastern county Republicans. https://sosmt.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018GeneralReportStateCanvassLegislative.pdf (https://sosmt.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018GeneralReportStateCanvassLegislative.pdf)
We see much the same in ND, where the biggest cities and Indian Reservations vote Democrat, and the rest of the state, (where people make their living off the land) tends to vote GOP.
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Nothing wrong with Texas, except for that rot working it's way out from the universities and that border thingy with Mexico.
And... the leftists flooding here from the states they've already fubared. It's an agenda item of Soros to turn Texas blue.
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"the farmers east of the hump vote Dem."
Interesting....why is that?
@goatprairie
To keep getting all the Dim corporate farm welfare money.
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@goatprairie
To keep getting all the Dim corporate farm welfare money.
The pubbies will give them that, too, and not take their coyote killers away from them.
Besides, the biggest kick in the corn (ethanol) market came around this administration...and the china meat deals will leave us with sticker shock at the butcher's.
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And... the leftists flooding here from the states they've already fubared. It's an agenda item of Soros to turn Texas blue.
Welcome to Californication.
As a rule, that's been happening here my whole life... All it's done is turn the cities blue, but with way lower turn out.
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The pubbies will give them that, too, and not take their coyote killers away from them.
As a point of order, Dem or not, nobody's gonna take their coyote killers away. This state will lock down around the R2KBA. Schwietzer, a recent Democrat governor, was the one that gave DC the finger on in-state firearm and ammo sales. ~nullified~ that nonsense.
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As a point of order, Dem or not, nobody's gonna take their coyote killers away. This state will lock down around the R2KBA. Schwietzer, a recent Democrat governor, was the one that gave DC the finger on in-state firearm and ammo sales. ~nullified~ that nonsense.
And that's part of why he got elected.
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And that's part of why he got elected.
It's certainly part of why he got re-elected.
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@berdie
It's pretty common with Huskies, especially in a group... They'll get in a pissin match and throw a melee... And you pretty well have to wade in there and beat em apart with a club before any of them get dead. I got pretty good at stitchin em.
Same takin the stitching back out... Just hog tie em, sit on their head, and get to work :shrug:
Funny you should say that @roamer_1 . The dog I mentioned was a husky/wolf hybrid. happy77 (one of my fav pups of all time)
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Funny you should say that @roamer_1 . The dog I mentioned was a husky/wolf hybrid. happy77 (one of my fav pups of all time)
Same here @berdie
Not all, but most of mine have been Wolf/Malamute/G.Shepherd crossed. That's a pretty common hillbilly mix up this way, and one that I prefer...
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Because their daddy did? :shrug:
I REALLY have no idea. A lot of the east side is influenced by their big cities. Well, big to us anyway... :shrug:
"Because their daddy did?"
I would bet that's why many Dem voters vote the way they do...their parents did, so they're going to vote that way as well.
My parents were strong Dems, so I voted that way for many years.
My older brother, who had broken earlier, questioned why I continued to vote for a bunch of increasingly anti-American pols.
I had no good answer...he was right.
But it took until Slick Willy before I broke even though I was questioning myself why I continued to vote for Dems.
It's like breaking with your favorite sports team in a way. You hate to break even though the team continues to make stupid trades and hire dumb coaches.
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"Because their daddy did?"
I would bet that's why many Dem voters vote the way they do...their parents did, so they're going to vote that way as well.
My parents were strong Dems, so I voted that way for many years.
My older brother, who had broken earlier, questioned why I continued to vote for a bunch of increasingly anti-American pols.
I had no good answer...he was right.
But it took until Slick Willy before I broke even though I was questioning myself why I continued to vote for Dems.
It's like breaking with your favorite sports team in a way. You hate to break even though the team continues to make stupid trades and hire dumb coaches.
For me, early on, it was team playing... Pulling for the big rhinestone 'R' largely because my Old Man did. My family have been entrepreneurs since they stepped off the boat, so 'business friendly' was the thing...
But I threw my first vote for Reagan, so I was extremely conscious of the Christian Right coming over from the Democrats, and the burgeoning of the Right to Life as a first principle bringing them over, embracing the principles of the Judeo-Christian Ethic, part and parcel at the Conservative table... And in those heady days, Reagan being from the right wing of the Republican party, with the name of Goldwater appended, there was little that rang any civil-libertarian alarm bells...
So forgive me if I was a little thoughtless at the time. Pulling for the big rhinestone 'R' was at least akin to pulling for Conservatism... But that is certainly not the case any longer. And maybe never was.
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For me, early on, it was team playing... Pulling for the big rhinestone 'R' largely because my Old Man did. My family have been entrepreneurs since they stepped off the boat, so 'business friendly' was the thing...
But I threw my first vote for Reagan, so I was extremely conscious of the Christian Right coming over from the Democrats, and the burgeoning of the Right to Life as a first principle bringing them over, embracing the principles of the Judeo-Christian Ethic, part and parcel at the Conservative table... And in those heady days, Reagan being from the right wing of the Republican party, with the name of Goldwater appended, there was little that rang any civil-libertarian alarm bells...
So forgive me if I was a little thoughtless at the time. Pulling for the big rhinestone 'R' was at least akin to pulling for Conservatism... But that is certainly not the case any longer. And maybe never was.
I'm sure you've settled into the understanding you will never, ever elect a President you like. Not in this lifetime.
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I'm sure you've settled into the understanding you will never, ever elect a President you like. Not in this lifetime.
Well, not anymore at least... Though I came close last time.
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Well, not anymore at least... Though I came close last time.
You got my point....
There is nothing wrong with trying to get somebody good, if they're in the Primaries, but having an incumbent precluded that in '20. I mean, really...Sanford (:laugh:)? Now the only "acceptable" candidates are third party, which at least gives you somebody to vote for, as long as you don't seriously expect to see that person in office.
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You got my point....
There is nothing wrong with trying to get somebody good, if they're in the Primaries, but having an incumbent precluded that in '20. I mean, really...Sanford (:laugh:)? Now the only "acceptable" candidates are third party, which at least gives you somebody to vote for, as long as you don't seriously expect to see that person in office.
Something like that... But still and all, the opportunity to vote for the first Republican I could stomach since '07 was somewhat remarkable. :shrug: :whistle:
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Something like that... But still and all, the opportunity to vote for the first Republican I could stomach since '07 was somewhat remarkable. :shrug: :whistle:
I hear you. I preferred Cruz, but the Republican electorate disagreed. :shrug: