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Title: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: mystery-ak on April 03, 2014, 02:52:56 pm
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2546736/ (http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2546736/)

Poll: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
BY PAUL BEDARD | APRIL 3, 2014 AT 10:23 AM

With a crushing dominance shown in repeated polls, Democrat Hillary Clinton is on a path to do something her husband and two-term president never achieved: win a majority of more than 50 percent of the presidential vote in 2016.

In the latest poll, Zogby Analytics confirmed the trend showing the former secretary of state, one-term New York senator and former first lady beating Sen. Rand Paul, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie by more than 50 percent.


Seizing a majority would give her substantial bragging rights over her husband, who won in 1992 with just 43 percent of the vote and re-election in 1996 with 49 percent. In each year, Bill Clinton and the Republican candidate lost votes to independent Ross Perot.

Aided by a huge gender gap, Clinton in the Zogby poll edges Bush 51 percent to 33 percent, beats Paul 53 percent to 32 percent and wins over Christie 52 percent to 29 percent.

She leads the Republicans among virtually all groups of voters, including younger Americans, men, white voters and independents. She’s even supported by 36 percent of evangelical voters.

Asked where she falls short, pollster John Zogby told Secrets that she loses Republicans, conservatives and evangelicals.

“For today, Mrs. Clinton is riding a crest and the GOP candidates are under water,” said Zogby, who also does the weekly Obama Report Card for Secrets. It posts every Saturday morning.

Some of the details from Zogby's latest polling:

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In a race against former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, Mrs. Clinton leads 51% to 33%, with 16% undecided. A close look at the poll's internals suggests that the former First Lady and U.S. Senator strongly holds on to the main elements of the Democratic base that propelled Barack Obama to victory twice. She leads 49% to 38% among men and 53% to 29% among women; she holds big leads among all voting groups under 65; she wins 87% support among Democrats and holds a 17-point lead among independents (45%-28%); has a 37 point lead with moderates (58%-21%) and almost clears the deck with liberals (87%-5%).

Mrs. Clinton also is ahead among Catholics (47%-34%) and Protestants (47%-39%), including receiving 36% support among Born Again/Evangelical voters. She wins among voters in union households (65%-23%), married voters (48%-37%) and single voters (56%-26%); social networkers (61%-27%), Investor Class (56%-32%), the Creative Class (57%-28%), and Weekly Wal-Mart Shoppers (54%-33%). She holds a 3-point lead among white voters (43%-40%), and wallops Mr. Bush among both Hispanics (67%-17%) and African Americans (84%-9%).

Mrs. Clinton fares even better against both Kentucky Senator Rand Paul (53%-32%) and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie (52%-29%). Sub-group support is about the same as her race against Governor Bush, except Senator Paul appears to be doing better among younger voters, a group he is targeting for support. Mrs. Clinton leads Mr. Paul 49% to 32%, while her lead against Mr. Bush among these voters is 54%-30%. She leads Mr. Christie among young voters 55%-28%.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: DCPatriot on April 03, 2014, 02:59:20 pm
If God really loved the United States, he'd strike her down before the democrat primaries.          :whistle:
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Relic on April 03, 2014, 02:59:50 pm
Bill Clinton had to deal with a slightly more critical electorate, and a media that still pretended to be objective.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Oceander on April 03, 2014, 03:23:21 pm
I don't trust polls - except, perhaps, for polls on purely social stuff, like which soda people prefer, or which celebrities dance the best.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Relic on April 03, 2014, 03:27:03 pm
I don't trust polls - except, perhaps, for polls on purely social stuff, like which soda people prefer, or which celebrities dance the best.

I didn't trust the polls in 2012. I was sorely mistaken.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: rustynail on April 03, 2014, 03:44:51 pm
It's just because she is so Sexy Hot.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: truth_seeker on April 03, 2014, 03:45:29 pm
If only the Republicans ran a genuine, true conservative like Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz---then they'd win for sure.

Cuz there are gazillion millions of them waiting for that genuine true conservative, or they won't vote.

Or may that faction is more narrow than their loud voice would indicate?
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Atomic Cow on April 03, 2014, 04:55:42 pm
If only the Republicans ran a genuine, true conservative like Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz---then they'd win for sure.

Cuz there are gazillion millions of them waiting for that genuine true conservative, or they won't vote.

Or may that faction is more narrow than their loud voice would indicate?

Do you just look for threads to make snarky, overly obnoxious comments on, or does it just come naturally to you?
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: aligncare on April 03, 2014, 05:14:18 pm
It could be argued Ross Perot helped to put a stake in the heart of an America that was already trending left. And here we are 25 years later still under threat of an Alinsky acolyte.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: truth_seeker on April 03, 2014, 05:37:16 pm
Do you just look for threads to make snarky, overly obnoxious comments on, or does it just come naturally to you?
It comes naturally. I think for myself, however obnoxious or snarky it may seem to YOU.

I don't follow others' path, to gain popularity and approval. I don't wait for echoes, to know what to post.

Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Oceander on April 03, 2014, 05:39:54 pm
It could be argued Ross Perot helped to put a stake in the heart of an America that was already trending left. And here we are 25 years later still under threat of an Alinsky acolyte.

It comes naturally. I think for myself, however obnoxious or snarky it may seem to YOU.

I don't follow others' path, to gain popularity and approval. I don't wait for echoes, to know what to post.




Y'all got nothin' on me when it comes to snark - don' make me have to bring it on!!   :silly:
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: DCPatriot on April 03, 2014, 10:31:36 pm
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n151/hagemangroup/celebrity-pictures-foghorn-leghorn-.jpg)


 :laugh:
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 04, 2014, 12:42:33 am
Democrats pick their candidate and the rest stand down.  They've chosen Hillary.  She'll have no serious opposition or primary "debates".  They will rally around her no matter what.

We'll roll out Santorum and Huckabee, Bush III and Newt, possibly Romney, maybe Cruz and/or Paul and spend millions of dollars and months debating abortion and marriage, how far to tax the rich, what to do with Obamacare, and what someone said years ago or who they took a picture with.

The democrats will end the primary season intact and whole.  We'll be fractured and promising never to vote for so-and-so or such-and-such.

Stir our esteemed MSM into this outcome and guess who sweeps 2016.

Go ahead.  Guess.

Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: DCPatriot on April 04, 2014, 12:54:18 am
They're going "all in" on it being an American Idol..Celebrity culture campaign.

The Republicans have to take her out.  Why hasn't anybody stepped up demanding a Special Prosecutor?
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Oceander on April 04, 2014, 12:55:53 am
Democrats pick their candidate and the rest stand down.  They've chosen Hillary.  She'll have no serious opposition or primary "debates".  They will rally around her no matter what.

We'll roll out Santorum and Huckabee, Bush III and Newt, possibly Romney, maybe Cruz and/or Paul and spend millions of dollars and months debating abortion and marriage, how far to tax the rich, what to do with Obamacare, and what someone said years ago or who they took a picture with.

The democrats will end the primary season intact and whole.  We'll be fractured and promising never to vote for so-and-so or such-and-such.

Stir our esteemed MSM into this outcome and guess who sweeps 2016.

Go ahead.  Guess.



Hitlary
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: truth_seeker on April 04, 2014, 01:27:56 am
Democrats pick their candidate and the rest stand down.  They've chosen Hillary.  She'll have no serious opposition or primary "debates".  They will rally around her no matter what.

We'll roll out Santorum and Huckabee, Bush III and Newt, possibly Romney, maybe Cruz and/or Paul and spend millions of dollars and months debating abortion and marriage, how far to tax the rich, what to do with Obamacare, and what someone said years ago or who they took a picture with.

The democrats will end the primary season intact and whole.  We'll be fractured and promising never to vote for so-and-so or such-and-such.

Stir our esteemed MSM into this outcome and guess who sweeps 2016.

Go ahead.  Guess.
Could we start the primary season with a national "throw him off the island" vote?
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Oceander on April 04, 2014, 01:32:46 am
Could we start the primary season with a national "throw him off the island" vote?

:silly:
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Fishrrman on April 04, 2014, 02:25:31 am
Well, if Hillary's going to win and there's little the Republicans can do about it, why not give the nomination to Sarah Palin, let her go down in flames, and then she'll never be heard from again ??
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Chieftain on April 04, 2014, 02:34:57 am
I am hearing more an more rumblings out there from people who do not believe the Hildebeest will run, mainly because her health is not what it seems and she is not capable of finishing another National race.

No kidding.

So if not the Hildebeest, then whom...??

Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Oceander on April 04, 2014, 02:45:54 am
I am hearing more an more rumblings out there from people who do not believe the Hildebeest will run, mainly because her health is not what it seems and she is not capable of finishing another National race.

No kidding.

So if not the Hildebeest, then whom...??




Moo-chelle Obama
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: aligncare on April 04, 2014, 06:50:51 am
I am hearing more an more rumblings out there from people who do not believe the Hildebeest will run, mainly because her health is not what it seems and she is not capable of finishing another National race.

No kidding.

So if not the Hildebeest, then whom...??

Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts is leading Hillary in the latest national polls. Of course, nationally no one knows anything about Elizabeth Warren. (Ahh, just leave it to the American electorate! Bunch of dumbasses, he muttered under his breath)
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Relic on April 04, 2014, 12:32:53 pm
Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts is leading Hillary in the latest national polls. Of course, nationally no one knows anything about Elizabeth Warren. (Ahh, just leave it to the American electorate! Bunch of dumbasses, he muttered under his breath)

They know Warren is a woman, and a Democrat. She exceeds the qualifications that this American public requires.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Oceander on April 04, 2014, 12:39:10 pm
They know Warren is a woman, and a Democrat. She exceeds the qualifications that this American public requires.

don't forget that she's also a native american!!
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: evadR on April 04, 2014, 02:20:53 pm
Zogby Polls...
loaded with "special sauce".
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Fishrrman on April 05, 2014, 02:11:19 am
aligncare wrote above:
[[ Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts is leading Hillary in the latest national polls. Of course, nationally no one knows anything about Elizabeth Warren. ]]

The time to start digging for past information is NOW.

By 2016 it will be too late, much of her past may have been "erased", just like Obama's was...
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: RedForemanRules on April 07, 2014, 02:52:02 am
    I'm all in for Rand Paul.   After two consecutive liberal Republicans, I can't see how a libertarian leaning Republican could do worse.   To his credit, at least Paul is trying to reach out to younger people, engage them and show them what the Republicans can offer them.   


    I hope I don't get banned for posting this.   :0001:


    Already got booted from FreeRepublic today because if you don't toe the line and support Sarah Palin, you're an evil, socialist, abortionist, welfare loving Commie.   
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: happyg on April 07, 2014, 03:02:19 am
    I'm all in for Rand Paul.   After two consecutive liberal Republicans, I can't see how a libertarian leaning Republican could do worse.   To his credit, at least Paul is trying to reach out to younger people, engage them and show them what the Republicans can offer them.   


    I hope I don't get banned for posting this.   :0001:


    Already got booted from FreeRepublic today because if you don't toe the line and support Sarah Palin, you're an evil, socialist, abortionist, welfare loving Commie.

No problem. Many of us have different viewpoints. I like Rand Paul, along with Cruz, Lee and Perry, Perry and Palin, though I doubt Palin will ever run. She is good at what she is doing now.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: mystery-ak on April 07, 2014, 03:08:08 am
    I'm all in for Rand Paul.   After two consecutive liberal Republicans, I can't see how a libertarian leaning Republican could do worse.   To his credit, at least Paul is trying to reach out to younger people, engage them and show them what the Republicans can offer them.   


    I hope I don't get banned for posting this.   :0001:


    Already got booted from FreeRepublic today because if you don't toe the line and support Sarah Palin, you're an evil, socialist, abortionist, welfare loving Commie.

I love Rand Paul so you are safe here...lol

Welcome to TBR
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: collins on April 07, 2014, 03:46:07 am
don't worry about the ban from there, all their fundraising is a turn-off alone. Like your name, and I also really like the character on that show. He is HILARIOUS.
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on April 07, 2014, 04:04:40 am
If only the Republicans ran a genuine, true conservative like Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz---then they'd win for sure.

Cuz there are gazillion millions of them waiting for that genuine true conservative, or they won't vote.

Or may that faction is more narrow than their loud voice would indicate?

Maybe Fred Thompson will run...
Title: Re: Poll [Zogby]: Hillary Clinton beating Republicans by more than 50%, Bill Clinton never did that
Post by: RedForemanRules on April 07, 2014, 05:43:45 am
No problem. Many of us have different viewpoints. I like Rand Paul, along with Cruz, Lee and Perry, Perry and Palin, though I doubt Palin will ever run. She is good at what she is doing now.


                 Thanks to all.   I'm glad I found this site.   I'm conservative but definitely not orthodox.   I do like a lot of Paul's views.   He seems to be a guy who can support his viewpoints eloquently and is willing to fight for them.   I like Cruz a lot, there's a few others who I think are bringing a refreshing change to the Republican Party and I'm glad that Paul is at least trying to reach out to younger people, it seemed like McCain and Romney had little interest and simply gave up on them, the problem is when you keep giving up on huge chunks of the electorate it just keeps making winning the White House progressively more difficult. 

   Because of his views on government surveillance, on economic issues, his lessened focus on the social ones, I do believe that Paul has a chance at real success electorally.   The "government hands off" message seems to play well with younger people who are often quite libertarian but vote Democrat because they are largely scared off by the focus on social issues.    If you make a compelling case to the young people who are getting out of college, struggling to finds jobs, if you can show them why Democratic opposition to energy issues, natural gas......the whole Obamacare debacle is against their own interests, I think there's a substantial amount of votes to be picked up out there by a candidate willing to go after the younger crowd.