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Ann Coulter 'If we aren't getting a wall, we may as well have an attractive, dignified Republican in there'
by Mandy Mayfield | Sep 20, 2017, 6:26 PM
Ann Coulter said Wednesday that she would prefer Vice President Mike Pence over President Trump because Trump is failing to build his promised wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.
"If we are not getting a wall, we might as well have a, you know, attractive, dignified Republican there, Coulter said on Newsmax TV.
Coulter is the author of In Trump We Trust but she has turned on Trump in the last few weeks, and said Pence is now a "better option." Coulter railed against Trump after Democrats reported they had a deal with the White House to pass legislation protecting immigrants to came to America illegally as children, and said they wouldn't accept funding for the border wall as part of that deal.
more
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ann-coulter-if-we-arent-getting-a-wall-we-may-as-well-have-an-attractive-dignified-republican-in-there/article/2635099
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A little to late for that, Ann. Thus the pitfalls of selling out Conservatism.
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She said that? NO Comment!
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A little to late for that, Ann. Thus the pitfalls of selling out Conservatism.
Guess she's decided to shoot the other foot now.
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Ann Coulter 'If we aren't getting a wall, we may as well have an attractive, dignified Republican in there'
by Mandy Mayfield | Sep 20, 2017, 6:26 PM
Ann Coulter said Wednesday that she would prefer Vice President Mike Pence over President Trump because Trump is failing to build his promised wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.
"If we are not getting a wall, we might as well have a, you know, attractive, dignified Republican there, Coulter said on Newsmax TV.
Coulter is the author of In Trump We Trust but she has turned on Trump in the last few weeks, and said Pence is now a "better option." Coulter railed against Trump after Democrats reported they had a deal with the White House to pass legislation protecting immigrants to came to America illegally as children, and said they wouldn't accept funding for the border wall as part of that deal.
more
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ann-coulter-if-we-arent-getting-a-wall-we-may-as-well-have-an-attractive-dignified-republican-in-there/article/2635099
Yeah.... and see.... that's the problem with being so shock-sure about something that you denigrate and bash anyone that disagrees with you. When you're proven wrong (again) you have both sides pointing and laughing at you. And ignoring you. Good luck selling any books now.
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...hmm... "attractive, dignified, Republican". I wonder just who she has in mind?? There were some dignified candidates, but none that I would consider overly attractive.
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Maybe she has a Daddy complex, and was probably dreaming of another NE Liberal.
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A little to late for that, Ann. Thus the pitfalls of selling out Conservatism.
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Maybe she has a Daddy complex, and was probably dreaming of another NE Liberal.
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Anything's possible.... considering what she must (apparently) think is attractive (Bill Maher).
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Ann's problem is that she always has to turn politicians into boyfriends. The latest one dumped her, so she's moving on to the next.
That woman really needs a husband.
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That woman really needs a husband.
Who in the hell would ever want that job?
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Who in the hell would ever want that job?
@Frank Cannon
I don't know, give me a week and I might come up with some desperate sucker who likes being punched around.
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Maybe she would like Aaron Schock
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@Frank Cannon
I don't know, give me a week and I might come up with some desperate sucker who likes being punched around.
Listen lady. There isn't anyone who likes having a tranny slap them around.
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Course there is little bit of baggage that goes along with him:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-aaron-schock-indicted-20161110-story.html
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...hmm... "attractive, dignified, Republican". I wonder just who she has in mind?? There were some dignified candidates, but none that I would consider overly attractive.
She seems to have her eye on Mike Pence. I doubt he appreciates the attention.
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Listen lady. There isn't anyone who likes having a tranny slap them around.
@Frank Cannon
I concede the point. That's getting a little too weird.
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Who in the hell would ever want that job?
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A little to late for that, Ann. Thus the pitfalls of selling out Conservatism.
Amen. She just doesn't get to go there. She shoved Donald Trump down our throats. Even wrote a book about him. She literally fell down to worship at his feet. Now she can choke on him.
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Amen. She just doesn't get to go there. She shoved Donald Trump down our throats. Even wrote a book about him. She literally fell down to worship at his feet. Now she can choke on him.
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She can go to whatever "heaven" Trump can take her to.
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Sigh..... *****rollingeyes*****
This is her shtick. Her niche. I've said here before, "If she didn't exist, we'd have to invent 'one'".
That being a vocal former supporter calling him out in her style. In. Your. Face.
I love it. She's going to keep the base riled up that the wall construction hasn't started, and also reminding us that he veered LEFT at first opportunity,[ in order to put Houston and the Florida Keys and Gulf coast, his top priority].
....which IMO, is only going to make him MORE attractive to the Rust Belt while proving to his base in the South...he delivers!
Better than the other guys!! :laugh:
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A little to late for that, Ann. Thus the pitfalls of selling out Conservatism.
I have zero respect for Ann Coulter. She hops on whatever train she thinks will make her relevant and get her some publicity so she can hawk her endless books.
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Anything's possible.... considering what she must (apparently) think is attractive (Bill Maher).
She's also had some kind of weird thing going on with Drudge for years. Not sure who's the boy in that relationship.
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I have zero respect for Ann Coulter. She hops on whatever train she thinks will make her relevant and get her some publicity so she can hawk her endless books.
But she's effective for this....and fits the bill.
She'll be invited more on the Bill Maher Show, etc., where she can explain why straying away from Conservative principles on basic promises is not something to be proud of when reelection comes around.
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Hmmm
Off hand I cant think of any attractive dignified republicans :whistle:
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She can go to whatever "heaven" Trump can take her to.
I was thinking her Trump hell.
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I don't care if @realDonaldTrump wants to perform abortions in White House after this immigration policy paper. http://bit.ly/1EvT3Ja
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Sigh..... *****rollingeyes*****
This is her shtick. Her niche. I've said here before, "If she didn't exist, we'd have to invent 'one'".
That being a vocal former supporter calling him out in her style. In. Your. Face.
I love it. She's going to keep the base riled up that the wall construction hasn't started, and also reminding us that he veered LEFT at first opportunity,[ in order to put Houston and the Florida Keys and Gulf coast, his top priority].
....which IMO, is only going to make him MORE attractive to the Rust Belt while proving to his base in the South...he delivers!
Better than the other guys!! :laugh:
Sigh ....
Poor little snowflake. Can't stand to see Trump blasphemed against.
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Sigh ....
Poor little snowflake. Can't stand to see Trump blasphemed against.
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HEY!
It was an opening.....so I took it!
You guyz don't like President Trump. I get it.
What I don't get is that you have to be catty and savage somebody whose turned on that same President Trump.
Rather than holding her up as vindication, you question her sincerity, etc..
Let's face it. You all just like to fight. :laugh:
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HEY!
It was an opening.....so I took it!
You guyz don't like President Trump. I get it.
What I don't get is that you have to be catty and savage somebody whose turned on that same President Trump.
Rather than holding her up as vindication, you question her sincerity, etc..
Let's face it. You all just like to fight. :laugh:
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Sigh ....
Poor little snowflake. Can't stand to see Trump blasphemed against.
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RNC Chair Blasts Scarborough for ‘Cult-of-Personality’ Dig on Trump Supporters
Ronna McDaniel says GOP backers are 'issue voters' who want to see Congress deliver results
by Kathryn Blackhurst | Updated 19 Sep 2017 at 1:08 PM
Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel said that President Donald Trump’s supporters are “issue voters” who don’t follow the “cult of personality,” during an interview Tuesday on “The Laura Ingraham Show.”
McDaniel responded to MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough’s repeated assertions that Trump voters suffer from “cult-of-personality syndrome” and loyally support the president no matter what actions he takes. During the past couple of weeks, Trump shocked his Republicans by bucking the party and making a deal with the Democrats on expanding the debt ceiling, as well as meeting with Democratic leaders to discuss amnesty for illegal immigrant children.
cont: http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/rnc-chair-blasts-scarborough-cult-personality-dig-trump-supporters/ (http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/rnc-chair-blasts-scarborough-cult-personality-dig-trump-supporters/)
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RNC Chair Blasts Scarborough for ‘Cult-of-Personality’ Dig on Trump Supporters
Ronna McDaniel says GOP backers are 'issue voters' who want to see Congress deliver results
by Kathryn Blackhurst | Updated 19 Sep 2017 at 1:08 PM
Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel said that President Donald Trump’s supporters are “issue voters” who don’t follow the “cult of personality,” during an interview Tuesday on “The Laura Ingraham Show.”
McDaniel responded to MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough’s repeated assertions that Trump voters suffer from “cult-of-personality syndrome” and loyally support the president no matter what actions he takes. During the past couple of weeks, Trump shocked his Republicans by bucking the party and making a deal with the Democrats on expanding the debt ceiling, as well as meeting with Democratic leaders to discuss amnesty for illegal immigrant children.
cont: http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/rnc-chair-blasts-scarborough-cult-personality-dig-trump-supporters/ (http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/rnc-chair-blasts-scarborough-cult-personality-dig-trump-supporters/)
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/snicker
Thanks for proving my point, again, snowflake.
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HEY!
It was an opening.....so I took it!
You guyz don't like President Trump. I get it.
What I don't get is that you have to be catty and savage somebody whose turned on that same President Trump.
Rather than holding her up as vindication, you question her sincerity, etc..
Let's face it. You all just like to fight. :laugh:
That's just not true @DCPatriot we love to argue and debate. I've had my nose smashed twice in fights and at my age I will stick with Briefers and their uncanny ability to find 'wrong' in all skinny white girls that don't matter much anymore, it's safer.
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Without a doubt!
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Thanks for proving my point, again, snowflake.
No...what it proves is that you watch MSNBC. Anywhere that will feed your Trump Bias.
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I respect that @DCPatriot and though I rag on him a lot he is my President too and I want him to succeed, at least till Sen. Cruz can take his place, sooner rather than later. I'm not really a fan of Pence either.
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I respect that @DCPatriot and though I rag on him a lot he is my President too and I want him to succeed, at least till Sen. Cruz can take his place, sooner rather than later. I'm not really a fan of Pence either.
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...hmm... "attractive, dignified, Republican". I wonder just who she has in mind?? There were some dignified candidates, but none that I would consider overly attractive.
@libertybele
She's referring to Pence.
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I respect that @DCPatriot and though I rag on him a lot he is my President too and I want him to succeed, at least till Sen. Cruz can take his place, sooner rather than later. I'm not really a fan of Pence either.
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I was thinking President Trump was making an excellent speech at the U.N. until he had to call the dictator "rocket man". I thought it was a great speech, right on for the most part and strong until he couldn't help himself. You can have a nick name for him but when addressing world leaders it isn't cute or funny.
Trump has his quirks. I can appreciate strong on foreign affairs. But I can't stand him because he has gone back on his word with immigration.
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I respect that @DCPatriot and though I rag on him a lot he is my President too and I want him to succeed, at least till Sen. Cruz can take his place, sooner rather than later. I'm not really a fan of Pence either.
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@corbe
You may have a man crush on Cruz; but again, it doesn't seem like you support him in anything else but being from your own area. I'd question the authenticity here. The healthcare bills are again, one more instance where people claim they support Cruz but don't really support what he does or says. You claim others are being sarcastic but perhaps their views actually lineup with Cruz's versus just having a man crush on him.
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Without a doubt!
Sí señor; that's the ticket.
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Without a doubt!
Pathetic
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We are very fortunate, the GOP even has gotten near the Presidency, now it will be for 4 or maybe 8 or maybe even 16 years straight.
As I said in the other thread, someone, one of the pundits said Ann is just a "professional troll", she says some good things, she says some things too, where obviously, she is not that informed.
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Without a doubt!
Trust him with what to do what?? Other than appoint a conservative SCOTUS (and the jury is still out on his conservatism) what the heck has he done that he said he was going to do?
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@corbe
You may have a man crush on Cruz; but again, it doesn't seem like you support him in anything else but being from your own area. I'd question the authenticity here. The healthcare bills are again, one more instance where people claim they support Cruz but don't really support what he does or says. You claim others are being sarcastic but perhaps their views actually lineup with Cruz's versus just having a man crush on him.
@TomSea
I'll remind you of this next week when you veer crazily into praising Cruz.
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@TomSea
I'll remind you of this next week when you veer crazily into praising Cruz.
I'm the one whose beliefs line up with his; not just looking to call Romney or whomever, a Northeast Liberal though Cruz endorsed him. I'm not a hypocrite.
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Without a doubt!
@DCPatriot, I sincerely cannot relate to "trusting" a politician. Is it your habit to place trust in people you've never met, and if not, what makes Trump different?
His reality show stardom, maybe...?
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I'm the one whose beliefs line up with his; not just looking to call Romney or whomever, a Northeast Liberal though Cruz endorsed him. I'm not a hypocrite.
@TomSea
Hey, it didn't take a week---you're doing it now! Fun times, I tell you.
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I was thinking her Trump hell.
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@Chosen Daughter
Yes, and now she's retweeting anti- abortion comments from Matt Walsh. She can just give up on that crap right now.
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Trust him with what to do what?? Other than appoint a conservative SCOTUS (and the jury is still out on his conservatism) what the heck has he done that he said he was going to do?
@libertybele
So far the President's done pretty damn well against some formidable opposition on both sides of the swamp.
To highlight a few of the promises kept: He ended dozens of Obama's EO's, including growth stifling regulations including those from the EPA, (both employment and the stock market are up as is consumer confidence)
He's pulled us out of TPP and the Paris Climate Accord, he's renegotiating NAFTA. He fought like hell for and met repeatedly with the Republican caucus to repeal and replace Obamacare .... but the Republican Senatorial caucus wasn't having it. (But fearing for their jobs, the Senate is now taking another crack at this)
The Senate just passed on a bipartisan vote a $700 billion increase in military spending. President Trump signed into law a bill providing over $2 billion to open new Veterans Affairs department medical facilities and fund care for veterans seeking medical care outside the government system on Saturday--giving them immediate access to health care.
He's nominated dozens of federal judges .... but our esteemed Republican Senate has neither time nor interest in helping to fundamentally change the makeup of the federal bench. (Imagine what the President could accomplish with a functioning Senate)
Illegal immigration is at an all time low; there's even a steady stream of illegals flowing into Canada. The President's EO on extreme vetting remains in place, thanks to the Supreme Court. MS-13 is being rounded up and deported. He has ended Obama's EO on DACA and placed it in the hands of Congress .... who has been begging for the ball --- and where it belongs.
Existing physical barriers along our border with Mexico are being strengthened and repaired. The House approved $1.6 billion for building the new wall. Final bids on building the wall are now under review.
The President has moved to tax reform requiring (thanks to McConnell) 60 votes in the Senate ... so he's looking to pick off Democrat Senators to help pass it.
The President stood for America first at the most unlikely of places on this planet: the United Nations.
He's really doing a very good job.
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Ann evidently fell for the Fake News that Trump was not going to build The Wall and was going to do an Amnesty for illegals. Fake News.
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Remember when Lil Annie said Trump's immigration paper was the greatest document since the Magna Carta?
Good times. :silly:
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But I can't stand him because he has gone back on his word with immigration.
And what exactly has Trump done to break his word on immigration?
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And what exactly has Trump done to break his word on immigration?
I'll answer that. He hasn't broken his word. He is actively trying to get congress to constitutionally deal with Obama's illegal DACA EO. That's where this phase of the immigration issue belongs – congress.
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... But I can't stand him because he has gone back on his word with immigration.
@Chosen Daughter
Illegal immigration is at an all time low; there's even a steady stream of illegals flowing into Canada.
The President's EO on extreme vetting and stopping refugees remains in place, thanks to the Supreme Court.
MS-13 is being rounded up and deported.
He has ended Obama's EO on DACA and placed it in the hands of Congress .... who has been begging for the ball --- and where it belongs.
Existing physical barriers along our border with Mexico are being strengthened and repaired. The House approved $1.6 billion for building the new wall. Final bids on building the wall are now under review.
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Ann evidently fell for the Fake News that Trump was not going to build The Wall and was going to do an Amnesty for illegals. Fake News.
@jpsb
Fake news = whatever is inconvenient for me to hear. See TOS for more examples.
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@Chosen Daughter
Illegal immigration is at an all time low; there's even a steady stream of illegals flowing into Canada.
The President's EO on extreme vetting and stopping refugees remains in place, thanks to the Supreme Court.
MS-13 is being rounded up and deported.
He has ended Obama's EO on DACA and placed it in the hands of Congress .... who has been begging for the ball --- and where it belongs.
Existing physical barriers along our border with Mexico are being strengthened and repaired. The House approved $1.6 billion for building the new wall. Final bids on building the wall are now under review.
Exactly. Trump has done nothing on immigration. *****rollingeyes*****
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Remember when Lil Annie said Trump's immigration paper was the greatest document since the Magna Carta?
Good times. :silly:
@Cripplecreek
Now she says the only people not burning their red hats are the ones who refuse to see that Trump is abandoning his entire agenda.
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@jpsb
@CatherineofAragon
Fake news = whatever is inconvenient for me to hear. See TOS for more examples.
Ann Coulter sells book by making outrageous statements to keep her in the news. I dismissed her ranting years ago.
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@jpsb
Fake news = whatever is inconvenient for me to hear. See TOS for more examples.
@CatherineofAragon
Please send me a link to where Trump says he is not going to build The Wall. TIA (thanks in advance)
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I'll answer that. He hasn't broken his word. He is actively trying to get congress to constitutionally deal with Obama's illegal DACA EO. That's where this phase of the immigration issue belongs – congress.
A little history @aligncare correct me if I'm wrong. DACA was in the hands of the US Congress, the Gang of 8, specifically, for 7 months, America did not want it, Sen. Cruz killed it with a Poison Pill amendment. Afterwards, obummer signs EO creating DACA/PACA. Fast forward 18 months and that infamous ride down an escalator and Trump opens his campaign on the illegal immigration issue, promising for over a year that on DAY 1 he will sign EO getting rid of obummers EO concerning DACA. For 240 days, he dittles around then throws it back into Congress's lap and another round of Gang of 8 BS. Am I guilty of oversimplification. Your boy lied to the American Public for over a year concerning the DACA EO.
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A little history @aligncare correct me if I'm wrong. DACA was in the hands of the US Congress, the Gang of 8, specifically, for 7 months, America did not want it, Sen. Cruz killed it with a Poison Pill amendment. Afterwards, obummer signs EO creating DACA/PACA. Fast forward 18 months and that infamous ride down an escalator and Trump opens his campaign on the illegal immigration issue, promising for over a year that on DAY 1 he will sign EO getting rid of obummers EO concerning DACA. For 240 days, he dittles around then throws it back into Congress's lap and another round of Gang of 8 BS. Am I guilty of oversimplification. Your boy lied to the American Public for over a year concerning the DACA EO.
We're going to pay dearly for the mass stupidity that is Trumpism.
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A little history @aligncare correct me if I'm wrong. DACA was in the hands of the US Congress, the Gang of 8, specifically, for 7 months, America did not want it, Sen. Cruz killed it with a Poison Pill amendment. Afterwards, obummer signs EO creating DACA/PACA. Fast forward 18 months and that infamous ride down an escalator and Trump opens his campaign on the illegal immigration issue, promising for over a year that on DAY 1 he will sign EO getting rid of obummers EO concerning DACA. For 240 days, he dittles around then throws it back into Congress's lap and another round of Gang of 8 BS. Am I guilty of oversimplification. Your boy lied to the American Public for over a year concerning the DACA EO.
Oh heavens no, the man of steel wouldn't lie! The truth has just been altered a little.
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We're going to pay dearly for the mass stupidity that is Trumpism.
That may well be, but hoping for it is worse than stupid.
Whatever he does, it is less than Hillary would have done. The massive amount of refugees she wanted to bring into the country keeps me happy that she is still crying into her scotch straight up.
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That may well be, but hoping for it is worse than stupid.
Whatever he does, it is less than Hillary would have done. The massive amount of refugees she wanted to bring into the country keeps me happy that she is still crying into her scotch straight up.
Call it hope if you want. Its a simple fact and your desperate denial doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
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Sen. Cruz killed it with a Poison Pill amendment
Cruz didn't kill squat, his "ammendment was never adopted. The truth is Cruz was in favor of legalization. In Cruzs' own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI)
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Cruz didn't kill squat, his "ammendment was never adopted. The truth is Cruz was in favor of legalization. In Cruzs' own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI]=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI (http://=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI)
Neither was the Gang of 8 Immigration Reform Bill, @jpsb that was the whole purpose. Google is used for other things besides nekid girls, for some of us.
Unable to get this youtube video to load, it's Ted and Greta discussing the poison pill
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Neither was the Gang of 8 Immigration Reform Bill, @jpsb that was the whole purpose. Google is used for other things besides nekid girls, for some of us.
Google has nekkid girls?
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Neither was the Gang of 8 Immigration Reform Bill, @jpsb that was the whole purpose. Google is used for other things besides nekid girls, for some of us.
Gang of eigth was defeated because David Brat beat Eric Cantor in a GOP primary. Brat campaigned on one issue, No Amnesty for illegals. Cruz had nothing to do with that. Cruz got he nick name Lying Ted because is lies all the time and you fall for it. Cruz wanted amnesty even Senator Paul called Cruz a liar on the issue of legalization.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrbPmS2_O1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrbPmS2_O1w)
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My 401K has doing well since Trump came into office, which makes happy....
On the topic....
My fear is Congress will vote on DACA and turn the thing into a law (of some sort) and that Trump will sign it.
It is right that it goes before Congress, and not as an EO, but Congress should say "No new law for Dreamers, the existing immigration law (prior to the DACA EO) stands".
It shouldn't become law, in my opinion.
It will lead to an increase in illegal crossing (already happening).
In the beginning of his term, illegal entry dropped, but it is picking up again.
They can say they've been here for 10 years, as children, and who is going to know?
The fight after that will be that they deserve citizenship, because it is not fair to have them, pay taxes, serve in the military, etc, without the right to vote.
Ann Coulter is crazy, but by design, a bit like a Kathy Griffin on the right.
Her point on the wall, is correct, however.
It hasn't started, and it was promised, and with Mexico paying for it.
What is happening now, is repairs to where the old fencing was built.
We can argue whether Trump has the authority to build a wall without Congress or not, but a lot of people bought into "Trump" building a wall and Mexico paying for it.
It is as if some thought he was going to force someone to do it, or get out there with bricks and a trowel himself.
I have wondered where those folks civics education came from.
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Respectfully, @jpsb we will just have to agree to disagree on this particular item. We tend to look at it from completely different perspectives, and appear to be pretty locked in to our brand of philosophy, just as we do President Trump.
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Neither was the Gang of 8 Immigration Reform Bill, @jpsb that was the whole purpose. Google is used for other things besides nekid girls, for some of us.
Unable to get this youtube video to load, it's Ted and Greta discussing the poison pill
Wow. Greta is pretty obnoxious there. Wouldn't let Ted talk...kept interrupting him...arguing with him. I'm kinda glad Greta is gone now.
Never knew she was such a "b".
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Trust him with what to do what?? Other than appoint a conservative SCOTUS (and the jury is still out on his conservatism) what the heck has he done that he said he was going to do?
I'll turn that around on you. What has he NOT DONE that is solely within the power of the President, that you believe he should/could have done by now?
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Call it hope if you want. Its a simple fact and your desperate denial doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
Thank you for proving my point.
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@libertybele
So far the President's done pretty damn well against some formidable opposition on both sides of the swamp.
To highlight a few of the promises kept: He ended dozens of Obama's EO's, including growth stifling regulations including those from the EPA, (both employment and the stock market are up as is consumer confidence)
He's pulled us out of TPP and the Paris Climate Accord, he's renegotiating NAFTA. He fought like hell for and met repeatedly with the Republican caucus to repeal and replace Obamacare .... but the Republican Senatorial caucus wasn't having it. (But fearing for their jobs, the Senate is now taking another crack at this)
The Senate just passed on a bipartisan vote a $700 billion increase in military spending. President Trump signed into law a bill providing over $2 billion to open new Veterans Affairs department medical facilities and fund care for veterans seeking medical care outside the government system on Saturday--giving them immediate access to health care.
He's nominated dozens of federal judges .... but our esteemed Republican Senate has neither time nor interest in helping to fundamentally change the makeup of the federal bench. (Imagine what the President could accomplish with a functioning Senate)
Illegal immigration is at an all time low; there's even a steady stream of illegals flowing into Canada. The President's EO on extreme vetting remains in place, thanks to the Supreme Court. MS-13 is being rounded up and deported. He has ended Obama's EO on DACA and placed it in the hands of Congress .... who has been begging for the ball --- and where it belongs.
Existing physical barriers along our border with Mexico are being strengthened and repaired. The House approved $1.6 billion for building the new wall. Final bids on building the wall are now under review.
The President has moved to tax reform requiring (thanks to McConnell) 60 votes in the Senate ... so he's looking to pick off Democrat Senators to help pass it.
The President stood for America first at the most unlikely of places on this planet: the United Nations.
He's really doing a very good job.
If posted on a serious, conservative political discussion forum, that would be a good summation of his tenure, to date.
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@Chosen Daughter
Illegal immigration is at an all time low; there's even a steady stream of illegals flowing into Canada.
The President's EO on extreme vetting and stopping refugees remains in place, thanks to the Supreme Court.
MS-13 is being rounded up and deported.
He has ended Obama's EO on DACA and placed it in the hands of Congress .... who has been begging for the ball --- and where it belongs.
Existing physical barriers along our border with Mexico are being strengthened and repaired. The House approved $1.6 billion for building the new wall. Final bids on building the wall are now under review.
??? When did Congress approve $1.6 billion for a NEW wall?? It was my understanding that $$ was appropriated to repair the existing wall but no $$ was in the budget or any future budget for any additional wall/barrier.
As for the vetting and stopping of refugees, it was my understanding that it was for a very limited time period of 3 months.
If you have information to the contrary, please correct me.
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Ann Coulter sells book by making outrageous statements to keep her in the news. I dismissed her ranting years ago.
Well now a merry little band of "true conservatives" here, are hanging on her words, because they hang on ANYTHING Anti-Trump.
She is a political satire author, that depends on her own self-generated controversy.
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If posted on a serious, conservative political discussion forum, that would be a good summation of his tenure, to date.
Are you suggesting @truth_seeker that TBR is not a 'serious' Conservative Forum?
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My suggestion to you, remove the blinders before posting AND work on your sense of Humor, Trumpers!
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Cruz didn't kill squat, his "ammendment was never adopted. The truth is Cruz was in favor of legalization. In Cruzs' own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwVrfydjOI)
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I'll turn that around on you. What has he NOT DONE that is solely within the power of the President, that you believe he should/could have done by now?
What hasn’t he done @truth_seeker ? Just off the top of my head:
Propose a Constitutional Amendment for term limits (as he promised); direct his Treasury Secretary to name China a currency manipulator (as he promised); name an Attorney General who would indeed “lock her up” (as he promised); get us on a path to eliminate the debt in the next 8 years (as he promised); “drain the swamp” (as he promised); get Mexico to pay for the Wall (as he promised).
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What hasn’t he done @truth_seeker ? Just off the top of my head:
Propose a Constitutional Amendment for term limits (as he promised); direct his Treasury Secretary to name China a currency manipulator (as he promised); name an Attorney General who would indeed “lock her up” (as he promised); get us on a path to eliminate the debt in the next 8 years (as he promised); “drain the swamp” (as he promised); get Mexico to pay for the Wall (as he promised).
Ok, I'll ask.
Other than "proposing" actions....and other than "announcing" actions he plans to take.... what has he actually accomplished towards those promises? In other words... what real and solid progress has he made on fulfilling those promises?
Point by point:
Has that Constitutional Amendment for term limits been passed yet? Has it even been brought up for passage yet?
Naming China a currency manipulator...has accomplished what, exactly. To me it seems like it's a "no duh" moment. What has his Treasury Secretary actually accomplished via this "naming"?
Appointed Jeff Sessions who would indeed lock her up? That's the most asinine and laughable claim YET. I advise you not to hold your breath for that to occur...for your own health and safety's sake.
Get us on a path to eliminate the debt? How? By making "deals" with the Democrats that automatically raise the debt ceiling.... which ....coincidentally...equates to increasing that debt? Another laughable moment.
Drain the swamp??? Seriously??? What, exactly, has Trump done towards draining the swamp? I have to ask...since all I've seen is Trump doing things to add TO that swamp. He may be changing out the dirty water, but he sure as hell ain't "draining" it.
How, exactly, is he getting Mexico to pay for the wall? Be specific. Cause... last I checked...Mexico even rescinded on Harvey aid they had pledged.
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Well now a merry little band of "true conservatives" here, are hanging on her words, because they hang on ANYTHING Anti-Trump.
She is a political satire author, that depends on her own self-generated controversy.
Um.... I'm a ""true"" conservative.... and I'm not hanging on her words. In fact, I think she's a supreme (mind you, that's not a compliment...it's merely a measure of a degree of suck) dumbazz.
But thanks for lumping us all into one big insulting basket.
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Ok, I'll ask.
Other than "proposing" actions....and other than "announcing" actions he plans to take.... what has he actually accomplished towards those promises? In other words... what real and solid progress has he made on fulfilling those promises?
Point by point:
Has that Constitutional Amendment for term limits been passed yet? Has it even been brought up for passage yet?
Naming China a currency manipulator...has accomplished what, exactly. To me it seems like it's a "no duh" moment. What has his Treasury Secretary actually accomplished via this "naming"?
Appointed Jeff Sessions who would indeed lock her up? That's the most asinine and laughable claim YET. I advise you not to hold your breath for that to occur...for your own health and safety's sake.
Get us on a path to eliminate the debt? How? By making "deals" with the Democrats that automatically raise the debt ceiling.... which ....coincidentally...equates to increasing that debt? Another laughable moment.
Drain the swamp??? Seriously??? What, exactly, has Trump done towards draining the swamp? I have to ask...since all I've seen is Trump doing things to add TO that swamp. He may be changing out the dirty water, but he sure as hell ain't "draining" it.
How, exactly, is he getting Mexico to pay for the wall? Be specific. Cause... last I checked...Mexico even rescinded on Harvey aid they had pledged.
Seriously....get a clue and a grip on reality here. For your own sake.
Did you perhaps misread concerned's post, specifically around the second word?
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Did you perhaps misread concerned's post, specifically around the second word?
It's possible. I haven't had any caffeine yet. Please correct me and show me the error of my ways.... ^-^
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It's possible. I haven't had any caffeine yet. Please correct me and show me the error of my ways.... ^-^
If I'm reading things right, Concerned posted a list of promises trump had NOT kept, and then you replied explaining how trump had not kept those promises as if his post had been a list of things trump had actually done.
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@XenaLee .... you will biotch and whine and stomp your feet no matter what the President accomplishes. But you really reached deep into the crap barrel to pull out these objections:
Has that Constitutional Amendment for term limits been passed yet? Has it even been brought up for passage yet?
Obviously you have no idea how long a Constitutional Amendment takes to pass---a surprising deficiency in a "conservative". But if the President were focused on this, you'd be first in line biotching about how he's wasting time on a non-issue.
Naming China a currency manipulator...has accomplished what, exactly.
Google this ... and then get back to us. It will fascinate you.
Appointed Jeff Sessions who would indeed lock her up? .
As I recall, the President is not pleased with Jeff Sessions .... but when the President went public with this ... you were on him like flies on shite. Are you now agreeing that the President's assessment of Sessions's job performance is correct?
Get us on a path to eliminate the debt?
And he's doing it. The President promised to pull us out of stupid global deals (which he's done), bring back jobs (which he's done), create an environment for economic growth (which he's doing) and reduce and reform the tax code (which is working on).
If you really want to unload ... call your Senator about passing an Obamacare repeal bill.
Cause... last I checked...Mexico even rescinded on Harvey aid they had pledged.
Did you miss the two earthquakes in Mexico? Or just President Nieto's apology that due to the two quakes Mexico needs the money at home?
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@XenaLee .... you will biotch and whine and stomp your feet no matter what the President accomplishes. But you really reached deep into the crap barrel to pull out these objections:
Obviously you have no idea how long a Constitutional Amendment takes to pass---a surprising deficiency in a "conservative". But if the President were focused on this, you'd be first in line biotching about how he's wasting time on a non-issue.
Google this ... and then get back to us. It will fascinate you.
As I recall, the President is not pleased with Jeff Sessions .... but when the President went public with this ... you were on him like flies on shite. Are you now agreeing that the President's assessment of Sessions's job performance is correct?
And he's doing it. The President promised to pull us out of stupid global deals (which he's done), bring back jobs (which he's done), create an environment for economic growth (which he's doing) and reduce and reform the tax code (which is working on).
If you really want to unload ... call your Senator about passing an Obamacare repeal bill.
Did you miss the two earthquakes in Mexico? Or just President Nieto's apology that due to the two quakes Mexico needs the money at home?
Still riding your broomstick hard and fast today, eh RIV? Not surprised.
Please do, by all means, detail what accomplishments Trump has actually MADE re: these points. I'm all cyber ears. But please don't nauseate us all with your usual and standard bullchit blather about what Trump "wants" to do vs. what he has actually DONE regarding the points that I addressed here today. Your ssdd deflection ain't working, in other words.
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If I'm reading things right, Concerned posted a list of promises trump had NOT kept, and then you replied explaining how trump had not kept those promises as if his post had been a list of things trump had actually done.
Yeah.... I know. And then the wicked witch of da east swooped in and pounced....lol.
Thanks for pointing that out, btw.
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Still riding your broomstick hard and fast today, eh RIV?
If I were to ride a broomstick---in any way--- I would need to borrow yours and rumor has it you're on it 24/7. @XenaLee
I look forward to the day I read a post from you that isn't regurgitated from the barrel of crap from sore losers, whiners and haters.
Please, don't disappoint me. (https://www.emojirequest.com/images/FingersCrossedHandEmoji.jpg)
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Drain the swamp??? Seriously??? What, exactly, has Trump done towards draining the swamp? I have to ask...since all I've seen is Trump doing things to add TO that swamp. He may be changing out the dirty water, but he sure as hell ain't "draining" it.
In fairness, Trump never promised to drain the swamp. That was all part of the false narrative that his supporters put forward. Trump never even used the term until 3 weeks before the election, and even then he acknowledged it as coming from someone else.
The thing that pisses me off the most is how the Trump sycophants have put forth this totally false narrative about how Trump is a Conservative, or how Trump is against Planned Parenthood, or how Trump is going to cut taxes, or how Trump is against amnesty. All of it is complete bullshit. And anyone actually listened to what Trump said instead of taking the word of the zealots would have known better before the election.
At least Coulter has the sense to recognize it now. Just wish she hadn't been so intentionally blind while real Conservatives like Ted Cruz were being destroyed by a NY liberal.
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If I were to ride a broomstick---in any way--- I would need to borrow yours and rumor has it you're on it 24/7. @XenaLee
I look forward to the day I read a post from you that isn't regurgitated from the barrel of crap from sore losers, whiners and haters.
Please, don't disappoint me. (https://www.emojirequest.com/images/FingersCrossedHandEmoji.jpg)
Awww....so original (not).... your usual copycat snark and sickening condescending BS. But...I have to admit...
it is hilariously ALL YOU.
:silly:
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Awww....so original (not).... your usual copycat snark and sickening condescending BS. But...I have to admit... it is hilariously ALL YOU.
I'm not sure what you were going for .. but you really missed the mark with this one. 88devil
Enjoy the rest of the day .... life intrudes on this compelling discussion. @XenaLee :seeya:
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In fairness, Trump never promised to drain the swamp. That was all part of the false narrative that his supporters put forward. Trump never even used the term until 3 weeks before the election, and even then he acknowledged it as coming from someone else.
The thing that pisses me off the most is how the Trump sycophants have put forth this totally false narrative about how Trump is a Conservative, or how Trump is against Planned Parenthood, or how Trump is going to cut taxes, or how Trump is against amnesty. All of it is complete bullshit. And anyone actually listened to what Trump said instead of taking the word of the zealots would have known better before the election.
At least Coulter has the sense to recognize it now. Just wish she hadn't been so intentionally blind while real Conservatives like Ted Cruz were being destroyed by a NY liberal.
I have to correct you. Trump did indeed adopt the "drain the swamp" meme. In fact, just last October....
Donald Trump on Tuesday pushed a package of ethics reforms he said would "drain the swamp" of Washington, D.C., including strict limitations on lobbying and a constitutional amendment imposing term limits on Congress.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/10/18/donald-trump-rally-colorado-springs-ethics-lobbying-limitations/92377656/
Let's face it. What Trump "says" and what Trump actually "does" has become entirely two different animals. And then you have his blindly following sycophants here that.... instead of acknowledging that truth, fact and reality, choose to continually LIE through their teeth about it. They lie so easily and so smoothly, in fact, that they remind me of the idiot left re: that. Oddly similar.
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I'm not sure what you were going for .. but you really missed the mark with this one. 88devil
Enjoy the rest of the day .... life intrudes on this compelling discussion. @XenaLee :seeya:
LOL! I hate to break this to ya.... but you miss the mark with every one of your insults. I realize that you think they're scathingly brilliant....lololol....but honestly...
they're just dumb snark. Try harder?
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LOL! I hate to break this to ya.... but you miss the mark with every one of your insults. I realize that you think they're scathingly brilliant....lololol....but honestly...
they're just dumb snark. Try harder?
You are SOOO easy!! :silly:
Luv ya! :seeya:
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L M A O !!!!
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You are SOOO easy!! :silly:
Luv ya! :seeya:
Uhhh...."that's" your idea of trying harder?
:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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If I'm reading things right, Concerned posted a list of promises trump had NOT kept, and then you replied explaining how trump had not kept those promises as if his post had been a list of things trump had actually done.
You are correct.
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Everytime I go on Facebook or to Yahoo, I feel a little more friendly to Trump.
Hollywood and most of its denizens are absolutely nuts now. They stop at nothing.
So, yeah, I like Trump better than the liberal world even if he hasn't been able to accomplish much of his stated goals.
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Respectfully, @jpsb we will just have to agree to disagree on this particular item. We tend to look at it from completely different perspectives, and appear to be pretty locked in to our brand of philosophy, just as we do President Trump.
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@corbe
I'm cool with agree to disagree.
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@GtHawk
So you ain't got nothing. Just like lying Ted.
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@XenaLee
You NeverTrumpers' are really BORING.
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@GtHawk
So you ain't got nothing. Just like lying Ted.
The whole thing has been hashed, rehashed and over and under hashed so many times that it is pointless, and really anyone that has so bought into the Lyin Ted dogma from one someone who would give Obama a good race for the title of sleaziest campaigner wouldn't and couldn't see the truth anyway.
So have a nice piece of pie (http://i62.tinypic.com/o8xiso.jpg)
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@XenaLee
You NeverTrumpers' are really BORING.
Don't show your ignorance....
unless ya just can't help it.
I'm not a NeverTrumper (duh).
I just don't fall for all of the BS about all that he has 'done'. I'm not seeing it.
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@GtHawk
So you ain't got nothing. Just like lying Ted.
And again.... all the deflection in the world won't help you EverTrumpers fool folks into not believing that your hero, Lyin Don, hasn't done squat towards most (if not all) of his campaign promises.
Psst - Hint: Ted Cruz ain't the president. What the hell relevance is he to this discussion?
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Ok, I'll ask.
Other than "proposing" actions....and other than "announcing" actions he plans to take.... what has he actually accomplished towards those promises? In other words... what real and solid progress has he made on fulfilling those promises?
Point by point:
Has that Constitutional Amendment for term limits been passed yet? Has it even been brought up for passage yet?
Naming China a currency manipulator...has accomplished what, exactly. To me it seems like it's a "no duh" moment. What has his Treasury Secretary actually accomplished via this "naming"?
Appointed Jeff Sessions who would indeed lock her up? That's the most asinine and laughable claim YET. I advise you not to hold your breath for that to occur...for your own health and safety's sake.
Get us on a path to eliminate the debt? How? By making "deals" with the Democrats that automatically raise the debt ceiling.... which ....coincidentally...equates to increasing that debt? Another laughable moment.
Drain the swamp??? Seriously??? What, exactly, has Trump done towards draining the swamp? I have to ask...since all I've seen is Trump doing things to add TO that swamp. He may be changing out the dirty water, but he sure as hell ain't "draining" it.
How, exactly, is he getting Mexico to pay for the wall? Be specific. Cause... last I checked...Mexico even rescinded on Harvey aid they had pledged.
There will never be a constitutional amendment with term limits. Because the people who would have to vote on it want to die in their Senate seats (and the sooner the better.)
And I might point out that Trump did not fill the swamp ... Obama filled it and it took him 8 years to get it full. I think Trump has drained a pint or two out of it.
Getting Mexico to pay for the wall was just hot air but Mexico could be forced to pay for it in other ways. (I hate to diss Mexico right now when they're suffering but I'm talking about the government not the people.)
As far as that debt ceiling vote, it was a 3 months raise and a drop in the ocean. It was done to fund help for the two states devastated by hurricanes.
If anyone ever believed that Hillary would be 'locked up' I feel sorry for them. Hillary will pay but maybe it will be in the next life.
Jeff Sessions is serious about removing DACA. That is at least one thing we can say for him.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump is a million miles from perfect but he's also a million times better than Obama and Hillary.
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@RoosGirl
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No, I never believed that Hillary would be locked up, but I would have loved to have seen it. Still would. It makes me smile just imagining her being perp-walked. We're entitled to our fantasies. :beer:
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No, I never believed that Hillary would be locked up, but I would have loved to have seen it. Still would. It makes me smile just imagining her being perp-walked. We're entitled to our fantasies. :beer:
Absolutely !! And it's infuriating that Hillary is now doing a victory tour with the late night talk show people. Remember when they used to be funny? It's been a while.
There's a large group of people who haven't realized yet how much people cannot stand them. Overpaid and entitled football players. Overpaid and entitled actors and singers.
But disastrous ratings and loss of money might eventually get through to them.
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Absolutely !! And it's infuriating that Hillary is now doing a victory tour with the late night talk show people. Remember when they used to be funny? It's been a while.
There's a large group of people who haven't realized yet how much people cannot stand them. Overpaid and entitled football players. Overpaid and entitled actors and singers.
But disastrous ratings and loss of money might eventually get through to them.
It might. I no longer go to the theater. I no longer watch professional football. I no longer watch news channels. I'd be here all day if I listed all of my "no longers ". LOL. Life is too short for the aggravation,.
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There will never be a constitutional amendment with term limits. Because the people who would have to vote on it want to die in their Senate seats (and the sooner the better.)
And I might point out that Trump did not fill the swamp ... Obama filled it and it took him 8 years to get it full. I think Trump has drained a pint or two out of it.
Getting Mexico to pay for the wall was just hot air but Mexico could be forced to pay for it in other ways. (I hate to diss Mexico right now when they're suffering but I'm talking about the government not the people.)
As far as that debt ceiling vote, it was a 3 months raise and a drop in the ocean. It was done to fund help for the two states devastated by hurricanes.
If anyone ever believed that Hillary would be 'locked up' I feel sorry for them. Hillary will pay but maybe it will be in the next life.
Jeff Sessions is serious about removing DACA. That is at least one thing we can say for him.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Trump is a million miles from perfect but he's also a million times better than Obama and Hillary.
No constitutional amendment on term limits, that's one promise down.
Trump has hired a ton of Goldman Sachs folks (you know....the outfit he bashed Cruz over being connected to via his wife's JOB?) to his admin... not to mention other "liberals". If that isn't 'refilling' the swamp, I don't know what is.
Mexico was never going to pay for the wall. And Trump is looking to "fix" DACA. Offhand, I'd say Mexico will be laughing all the way to the bank on that one.
The debt ceiling raise was a blatant giveaway to the rats, since that hurricane relief bill would have passed without it. Even the rats aren't bold enough to turn down relief to states devastated by "globull warming" (lol).
Trump used the implication that he would go after Hillary and played it for all it was worth with his supporters. It worked. But let's face it... even an implication, when insincere, equates to a lie. He never intended to lock her up.
DACA won't be "removed". It will be fixed. Six months from now, those people will be given rights that they didn't earn by being here legally.
Yeah....but the "at least Trump ain't Hillary" meme is wearing a bit thin with me these days.... since it's three months short of a year now... and I don't see much happening towards those "Conservative values" Trump supposedly embraced. I do see a lot of uncertainty and chaos, still. Not...good.
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I hear you but I will never stop watching my Dallas Cowboys.
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No constitutional amendment on term limits, that's one promise down.
Trump has hired a ton of Goldman Sachs folks (you know....the outfit he bashed Cruz over being connected to via his wife's JOB?) to his admin... not to mention other "liberals". If that isn't 'refilling' the swamp, I don't know what is.
Mexico was never going to pay for the wall. And Trump is looking to "fix" DACA. Offhand, I'd say Mexico will be laughing all the way to the bank on that one.
The debt ceiling raise was a blatant giveaway to the rats, since that hurricane relief bill would have passed without it. Even the rats aren't bold enough to turn down relief to states devastated by "globull warming" (lol).
Trump used the implication that he would go after Hillary and played it for all it was worth with his supporters. It worked. But let's face it... even an implication, when insincere, equates to a lie. He never intended to lock her up.
DACA won't be "removed". It will be fixed. Six months from now, those people will be given rights that they didn't earn by being here legally.
Yeah....but the "at least Trump ain't Hillary" meme is wearing a bit thin with me these days.... since it's three months short of a year now... and I don't see much happening towards those "Conservative values" Trump supposedly embraced. I do see a lot of uncertainty and chaos, still. Not...good.
I know all that but the 'at least Trump ain't Hillary' still works for me.
I think some good things have happened and I think more will happen.
What good does it do to get all het up that Trump didn't live up to our expectations. Most of us had very low expections and he has exceeded mine.
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No, I never believed that Hillary would be locked up, but I would have loved to have seen it. Still would. It makes me smile just imagining her being perp-walked. We're entitled to our fantasies. :beer:
I'm not giving up hope. It may take a while, these things have a way of slowly unraveling. But the more distance there is from the election, the weaker Hillary becomes. So there may yet come a day when the empress has no clothes.
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I know all that but the 'at least Trump ain't Hillary' still works for me.
I think some good things have happened and I think more will happen.
What good does it do to get all het up that Trump didn't live up to our expectations. Most of us had very low expections and he has exceeded mine.
Yeah....well....what do you know? You like the Dallas Cowboys!
:silly: :silly: :silly:
Just....kidding.
(my parents were rabid/avid fans)
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Yeah....well....what do you know? You like the Dallas Cowboys!
:silly: :silly: :silly:
Just....kidding.
(my parents were rabid/avid fans)
Well, now the I know @Emjay is a Dallas Cowboy fan, I may have to use the ignore feature.
My two favorite teams?
The Houston Texans and anybody that beats the Cowboys!
(Just havin" fun) :beer:
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Well, now the I know @Emjay is a Dallas Cowboy fan, I may have to use the ignore feature.
My two favorite teams?
The Houston Texans and anybody that beats the Cowboys!
(Just havin" fun) :beer:
Lol.....me and my husband had a running competition for years with my parents over the Cowboys vs. Oilers.
Good times. :beer:
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Lol.....me and my husband had a running competition for years with my parents over the Cowboys vs. Oilers.
Good times. :beer:
I was sitting in an icehouse with some friends of mine, and the Texans were losing pretty bad.
So I broke out in song:
"Houston has the Oilers, the greatest football team, they move the ball from goal to goal, like no one's ever seen..."
Everybody cracked up, and said, "Yep, we miss those days".
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I hear you but I will never stop watching my Dallas Cowboys.
I haven't seen a single game this year. I had already pulled away from it quite a bit due to the pink breast cancer BS, but the NFL has gone to hell in a hand basket. I'd rather be out doing something fun that is good for my health as opposed to jumping up and down on the sofa hurling invectives at the TV. My resting heart rate has thanked me for it.
I have pulled into a few sports bars claiming to be hungry and desirous of a beer or three while on my bike so that my husband can covertly watch it while I pretend to be clueless that it is on the TV. I'm not completely heartless. :silly:
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We Cowboy fans are used to the jealousy. Don't even worry about it.
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You will never see a Dallas Cowboy kneel during the National Anthem.
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I haven't seen a single game this year. I had already pulled away from it quite a bit due to the pink breast cancer BS, but the NFL has gone to hell in a hand basket. I'd rather be out doing something fun that is good for my health as opposed to jumping up and down on the sofa hurling invectives at the TV. My resting heart rate has thanked me for it.
I have pulled into a few sports bars claiming to be hungry and desirous of a beer or three while on my bike so that my husband can covertly watch it while I pretend to be clueless that it is on the TV. I'm not completely heartless. :silly:
My gosh. I could never get my husband that well trained.
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My gosh. I could never get my husband that well trained.
Mine isn't trained. He just knows when I say I'm not doing something anymore, I'm not doing it. If I leave to go ride or whatever, he must want to go. If not, he wouldn't come with me. He's perfectly free to stay if he wishes. :shrug:
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Mine isn't trained. He just knows when I say I'm not doing something anymore, I'm not doing it. If I leave to go ride or whatever, he must want to go. If not, he wouldn't come with me. He's perfectly free to stay if he wishes. :shrug:
Well, good. Who would want a trained husband?
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I was sitting in an icehouse with some friends of mine, and the Texans were losing pretty bad.
So I broke out in song:
"Houston has the Oilers, the greatest football team, they move the ball from goal to goal, like no one's ever seen..."
Everybody cracked up, and said, "Yep, we miss those days".
Lolol....I miss Bum cussing on the sidelines. I got pretty good at reading his lips! Haha...
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My two favorite teams?
The Houston Texans and anybody that beats the Cowboys!
Mine are the Redskins, and whoever is playing the Cowboys.
fyi, I know quite a few Texas Titans fans. There are a lot of Titan hats and lanyards on display here at site. I still miss Warren Moon and the Fab Four (Jeffires, Givens, Duncan, and Slaughter).
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@libertybele
So far the President's done pretty damn well against some formidable opposition on both sides of the swamp.
To highlight a few of the promises kept: He ended dozens of Obama's EO's, including growth stifling regulations including those from the EPA, (both employment and the stock market are up as is consumer confidence)
He's pulled us out of TPP and the Paris Climate Accord, he's renegotiating NAFTA. He fought like hell for and met repeatedly with the Republican caucus to repeal and replace Obamacare .... but the Republican Senatorial caucus wasn't having it. (But fearing for their jobs, the Senate is now taking another crack at this)
The Senate just passed on a bipartisan vote a $700 billion increase in military spending. President Trump signed into law a bill providing over $2 billion to open new Veterans Affairs department medical facilities and fund care for veterans seeking medical care outside the government system on Saturday--giving them immediate access to health care.
He's nominated dozens of federal judges .... but our esteemed Republican Senate has neither time nor interest in helping to fundamentally change the makeup of the federal bench. (Imagine what the President could accomplish with a functioning Senate)
Illegal immigration is at an all time low; there's even a steady stream of illegals flowing into Canada. The President's EO on extreme vetting remains in place, thanks to the Supreme Court. MS-13 is being rounded up and deported. He has ended Obama's EO on DACA and placed it in the hands of Congress .... who has been begging for the ball --- and where it belongs.
Existing physical barriers along our border with Mexico are being strengthened and repaired. The House approved $1.6 billion for building the new wall. Final bids on building the wall are now under review.
The President has moved to tax reform requiring (thanks to McConnell) 60 votes in the Senate ... so he's looking to pick off Democrat Senators to help pass it.
The President stood for America first at the most unlikely of places on this planet: the United Nations.
He's really doing a very good job.
??? When did Congress approve $1.6 billion for a NEW wall?? It was my understanding that $$ was appropriated to repair the existing wall but no $$ was in the budget or any future budget for any additional wall/barrier.
As for the vetting and stopping of refugees, it was my understanding that it was for a very limited time period of 3 months.
If you have information to the contrary, please correct me.
RIV you list all kinds of things that you claim that Pres. Trump has done -- but where are the links??
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@GtHawk
So you ain't got nothing. Just like lying Ted.
Now.@jpsb, you aren't drunk today like you were the other day, so you don't have an excuse.
I mean, I guess you aren't...
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Ann Coulter sells book by making outrageous statements to keep her in the news. I dismissed her ranting years ago.
@Victoria33
I'm pretty sure the Trump fans were hanging on her every word before the election, but now she seems to have lost her credibility with them.
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@CatherineofAragon
Please send me a link to where Trump says he is not going to build The Wall. TIA (thanks in advance)
@jpsb
Trump: The wall is fence renovation
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/14/donald-trump-the-wall-is-actually-just-renovation-of-old-fences/
(http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/14/donald-trump-the-wall-is-actually-just-renovation-of-old-fences/)
"...Trump even acknowledges that the wall is “the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important.
Trump spent much of his call with Peqa Nieto just trying to convince him to stop talking about how Mexico would not pay for the wall. Trump even suggested he would fudge it in the end so that both sides could claim they didn’t give in.
“We should both say, ‘We will work it out.’ It will work out in the formula somehow,” Trump said. “As opposed to you saying, ‘We will not pay,’ and me saying, ‘We will not pay.’ ”
Peqa Nieto said Trump’s promise had put a “very big mark on our back” and “is an issue related to the dignity of Mexico and goes to the national pride of my country.” Trump’s response to all of that was basically: Okay, well let’s just stop talking about it publicly.
“But you cannot say that to the press,” Trump said. “The press is going to go with that, and I cannot live with that.”
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/03/analysis-trump-admits-he-punked-his-supporters-on-/ (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/03/analysis-trump-admits-he-punked-his-supporters-on-/)
White House legislative directoer Marc Short:
“I think that what the definition of a wall is, is something that we all need to have a serious conversation,” Short said over the weekend on CNN’s “The Situation Room.” The border will be secured by a “myriad of different structures,” Short said.
http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/09/18/trump-aide-calls-for-a-conversation-about-the-definition-of-a-wall-what/
(http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/09/18/trump-aide-calls-for-a-conversation-about-the-definition-of-a-wall-what/)
Lol, we're at the Clintonian point of "it depends on what the meaning of wall is." Jpsb, Trump and his fellow shysters are falling over themselves trying to backpedal. Although I expect you'll come up with reasons to dismiss everything I've provided you here.
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More smoke and mirrors to attain praise and adulation for the Great and Powerful Orange.
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More smoke and mirrors to attain praise and adulation for the Great and Powerful Orange.
Separated at birth
(http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/07/donald-trump-blue-tie-600.jpg)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Q-XSQpNE8FM/TCPfLbLRkKI/AAAAAAAABHg/x3OqQJdtYZE/s1600/wizard-of-oz+behind+the+curtain.jpg)
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It's interesting.
So many people here hated Trump during the primaries ... me, among them.
One thing I hated about him was that I did not dream he could beat Hillary but I'm so glad he did.
Yes, there is a difference.
So, all these people who expected NOTHING from Trump are now outraged because they are saying they got nothing.
Interesting.
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It's interesting.
So many people here hated Trump during the primaries ... me, among them.
One thing I hated about him was that I did not dream he could beat Hillary but I'm so glad he did.
Yes, there is a difference.
So, all these people who expected NOTHING from Trump are now outraged because they are saying they got nothing.
Interesting.
@Emjay
IMO, it's just a last gasp at attempting to remain relevant.
In their bizarro world, Ted Cruz should have been the Nominee....if not for the dirty, no-good rotten NYC liberal hack.
So, it's in their nature to not accept the reality, instead hanging around just for the chance to yell, "I told you so!"
^-^
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I dont care about an attractive dignified republican. I just want a CONSERVATIVE one. Unfortunately the primary voters went for the shiny object and this is where we are.
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People said Eisenhower was a do-nothing president but he was exactly the president that we needed at the time.
If Trump did nothing else, he stopped the tide of Obama and Hillary which would have put us in such a hole we could never have climbed out.
So, if he can just hold the place, I will still be happy he was elected.
And he's done far more than that. I'm not gonna go into the good things I think he's done because I'm tired of arguing about it but it's more than just Gorsuch, although Gorsuch alone is worth it. If he gets to nominate another Supreme, it will be great.
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People said Eisenhower was a do-nothing president but he was exactly the president that we needed at the time.
If Trump did nothing else, he stopped the tide of Obama and Hillary which would have put us in such a hole we could never have climbed out.
So, if he can just hold the place, I will still be happy he was elected.
And he's done far more than that. I'm not gonna go into the good things I think he's done because I'm tired of arguing about it but it's more than just Gorsuch, although Gorsuch alone is worth it. If he gets to nominate another Supreme, it will be great.
Republicans 'holding the place' is what so many of us have been griping about for so long. They hold the place and then eventually another liberal comes along and pushes us more to the left. Look where we are from them holding the place instead of undoing.
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Republicans 'holding the place' is what so many of us have been griping about for so long. They hold the place and then eventually another liberal comes along and pushes us more to the left. Look where we are from them holding the place instead of undoing.
Exactly. When did we morph into a nation that settles for half-measures and merely keeping the status quo? Talk about lowered expectations....
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People said Eisenhower was a do-nothing president but he was exactly the president that we needed at the time.
If Trump did nothing else, he stopped the tide of Obama and Hillary which would have put us in such a hole we could never have climbed out.
So, if he can just hold the place, I will still be happy he was elected.
And he's done far more than that. I'm not gonna go into the good things I think he's done because I'm tired of arguing about it but it's more than just Gorsuch, although Gorsuch alone is worth it. If he gets to nominate another Supreme, it will be great.
Amen, to everything, @Emjay !
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People said Eisenhower was a do-nothing president but he was exactly the president that we needed at the time.
If Trump did nothing else, he stopped the tide of Obama and Hillary which would have put us in such a hole we could never have climbed out.
So, if he can just hold the place, I will still be happy he was elected.
And he's done far more than that. I'm not gonna go into the good things I think he's done because I'm tired of arguing about it but it's more than just Gorsuch, although Gorsuch alone is worth it. If he gets to nominate another Supreme, it will be great.
I'm not so sure we've climbed out of anything ... yet. D.C. is still a cesspool that needs to be emptied.
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I'm not so sure we've climbed out of anything ... yet. D.C. is still a cesspool that needs to be emptied.
I didn't say we had (climbed out of anything).
But, yeah, DC is a cesspool but Trump didn't fill it.
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I didn't say we had (climbed out of anything).
But, yeah, DC is a cesspool but Trump didn't fill it.
Not saying that Trump filled it, but he sure as heck isn't emptying it either. Unless he gets rid of some of the corrupt dead weight, not a whole lot is going to change.
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The way Trump’s slashing federal regulations alone makes me one happy cat. The rest is icing.
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[quote author=XenaLee link=topic=282018.msg1458470#msg1458470 date=1506022653
Psst - Hint: Ted Cruz ain't the president. What the hell relevance is he to this discussion?
[/quote]
@corbe posted this "A little history @aligncare correct me if I'm wrong. DACA was in the hands of the US Congress, the Gang of 8, specifically, for 7 months, America did not want it, Sen. Cruz killed it with a Poison Pill amendment. "
He asked for a correction so I corrected him using Cruzs' own words. See reply 64 for the video
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Now.@jpsb, you aren't drunk today like you were the other day, so you don't have an excuse.
I mean, I guess you aren't...
@CatherineofAragon
I never said I was drunk I said I had a hangover, it is not nice to lie about someone. I think there is something about that in the big ten.
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@jpsb
Trump: The wall is fence renovation
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/14/donald-trump-the-wall-is-actually-just-renovation-of-old-fences/
(http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/14/donald-trump-the-wall-is-actually-just-renovation-of-old-fences/)
"...Trump even acknowledges that the wall is “the least important thing we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important.
Trump spent much of his call with Peqa Nieto just trying to convince him to stop talking about how Mexico would not pay for the wall. Trump even suggested he would fudge it in the end so that both sides could claim they didn’t give in.
“We should both say, ‘We will work it out.’ It will work out in the formula somehow,” Trump said. “As opposed to you saying, ‘We will not pay,’ and me saying, ‘We will not pay.’ ”
Peqa Nieto said Trump’s promise had put a “very big mark on our back” and “is an issue related to the dignity of Mexico and goes to the national pride of my country.” Trump’s response to all of that was basically: Okay, well let’s just stop talking about it publicly.
“But you cannot say that to the press,” Trump said. “The press is going to go with that, and I cannot live with that.”
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/03/analysis-trump-admits-he-punked-his-supporters-on-/ (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2017/aug/03/analysis-trump-admits-he-punked-his-supporters-on-/)
White House legislative directoer Marc Short:
“I think that what the definition of a wall is, is something that we all need to have a serious conversation,” Short said over the weekend on CNN’s “The Situation Room.” The border will be secured by a “myriad of different structures,” Short said.
http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/09/18/trump-aide-calls-for-a-conversation-about-the-definition-of-a-wall-what/
(http://www.glennbeck.com/2017/09/18/trump-aide-calls-for-a-conversation-about-the-definition-of-a-wall-what/)
Lol, we're at the Clintonian point of "it depends on what the meaning of wall is." Jpsb, Trump and his fellow shysters are falling over themselves trying to backpedal. Although I expect you'll come up with reasons to dismiss everything I've provided you here.
Nowhere do you accually quote Trump himself
I do
Trump: There will be a wall, no amnesty (http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/09/14/donald-trump-daca-wall-air-force-one-comments-sot-nr.cnn)
All this no wall stuff is fake news
House approves spending bill with $1.6 billion for the border wall (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/27/politics/spending-bill-vote-border-wall-money/index.html)
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Exactly. When did we morph into a nation that settles for half-measures and merely keeping the status quo? Talk about lowered expectations....
Yall sound like a bunch of teenage girls, instant gratification huh? We are and have been in a war with the commies since 1912 and the election of Woodrow Wilson. (thanks a lot teddy). President Hillary would have caused irreversible damage. Yall should be happy that did not happen (no thanks to the NTers). Trump IS rolling back Big Gov and that is not an easy thing to do.
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A little to late for that, Ann. Thus the pitfalls of selling out Conservatism.
Whatever you think of Trump, his Veep pick was first rate - a conservative by almost anyone's definition and a solid citizen to boot.
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Ahhh, the fetid smell of Trump-worship in the morning. Such touching faith in The Wall.
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Mine are the Redskins, and whoever is playing the Cowboys.
fyi, I know quite a few Texas Titans fans. There are a lot of Titan hats and lanyards on display here at site. I still miss Warren Moon and the Fab Four (Jeffires, Givens, Duncan, and Slaughter).
@Hoodat
Mine is the Carolina Panthers, and trust me, it's an exercise in patience that I'm coming to the end of. I never saw a team so good at winning up until the 4th quarter and then giving it away. It's their hallmark. Omg, I still remember 2016...they made it to the Super Bowl and Cam Newton completely choked.
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Ahhh, the fetid smell of Trump-worship in the morning. Such touching faith in The Wall.
@Oceander
:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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@Hoodat
Mine is the Carolina Panthers, and trust me, it's an exercise in patience that I'm coming to the end of. I never saw a team so good at winning up until the 4th quarter and then giving it away. It's their hallmark. Omg, I still remember 2016...they made it to the Super Bowl and Cam Newton completely choked.
@CatherineofAragon
Mine is Hockey. Its a better sport, cheaper tickets and the players (even the Russians) are respectful during the national anthem.
The NFL will not be on my TV this year. Millionaires who play a game complaining about how they've been treated so poorly. to hell with em
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Whatever you think of Trump, his Veep pick was first rate - a conservative by almost anyone's definition and a solid citizen to boot.
Imagine, in seven years, it could be President Pence. Kinda rolls off the tongue, don’t it. Pence will be a tough candidate to beat with the experience he will have gained in this administration, trial by fire, as it were.
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@Emjay
IMO, it's just a last gasp at attempting to remain relevant.
In their bizarro world, Ted Cruz should have been the Nominee....if not for the dirty, no-good rotten NYC liberal hack.
So, it's in their nature to not accept the reality, instead hanging around just for the chance to yell, "I told you so!"
^-^
@DCPatriot
There you go projecting again. Not everyone gets personally wrapped up in politicians like you.
"A last gasp to remain relevant"---what does that even mean? You see what I'm saying? To your mind, the only people who have any significance are those who see the might and wonder of the great savior Trump.
Let me straighten you out. It's absolutely true that Cruz would have been a vast improvement over the chaotic, know-nothing mess we have. However, I never give Cruz a thought until @jpsb or @TomSea bring him up, and that happens about once every other day.
Now...who's obsessed with Ted again?
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@CatherineofAragon
I never said I was drunk I said I had a hangover, it is not nice to lie about someone. I think there is something about that in the big ten.
@jpsb
Apologies. Now take your own advice and stop lying about Cruz.
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@DCPatriot
There you go projecting again. Not everyone gets personally wrapped up in politicians like you.
"A last gasp to remain relevant"---what does that even mean? You see what I'm saying? To your mind, the only people who have any significance are those who see the might and wonder of the great savior Trump.
Let me straighten you out. It's absolutely true that Cruz would have been a vast improvement over the chaotic, know-nothing mess we have. However, I never give Cruz a thought until @jpsb or @TomSea bring him up, and that happens about once every other day.
Now...who's obsessed with Ted again?
Zactly! We all know who is really "obsessed" here. Obsessed with deflecting away from the failures of their hero.... to the point that, whenever those failures are addressed at this forum, they automatically have to bring up Ted Cruz. It would be laughable if it were not already so damned tiresome.
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Nowhere do you accually quote Trump himself
I do
Trump: There will be a wall, no amnesty (http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/09/14/donald-trump-daca-wall-air-force-one-comments-sot-nr.cnn)
All this no wall stuff is fake news
House approves spending bill with $1.6 billion for the border wall (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/27/politics/spending-bill-vote-border-wall-money/index.html)
@jpsb
Damn, not only did you dismiss everything I gave you, just as predicted, but you gave the exact response I knew you would. LOL
I guess I've seen it too often at TOS. Every single person in Trump's White House could say something, but if the cult members don't like it, they yell that they won't believe it until the Master himself speaks.
Amazing.
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@jpsb
Btw, the Master himself DID speak in those links I gave you, but whatever.
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@jpsb
Apologies. Now take your own advice and stop lying about Cruz.
I don't lie about Cruz I just play videos of Cruz lying.
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Zactly! We all know who is really "obsessed" here. Obsessed with deflecting away from the failures of their hero.... to the point that, whenever those failures are addressed at this forum, they automatically have to bring up Ted Cruz. It would be laughable if it were not already so damned tiresome.
@XenaLee
Yup. I do still laugh, though. :laugh:
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@jpsb
Damn, not only did you dismiss everything I gave you, just as predicted, but you gave the exact response I knew you would. LOL
I guess I've seen it too often at TOS. Every single person in Trump's White House could say something, but if the cult members don't like it, they yell that they won't believe it until the Master himself speaks.
Amazing.
If you are trying to tell me Trump will break his promise to Build a Wall, then I am going to have to hear that from Trump himself. Everything I've heard from him is contrary to that.
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@DCPatriot
Let me straighten you out. It's absolutely true that Cruz would have been a vast improvement over the chaotic, know-nothing mess we have. However, I never give Cruz a thought until @jpsb or @TomSea bring him up, and that happens about once every other day.
Now...who's obsessed with Ted again?
Please stop lying about me, I did not bring Cruz up. @corbe did, I just responded to him/her as I clearly stated to @XenaLee in post 134.
Ted Cruz ain't the president. What the hell relevance is he to this discussion?[/b]
@corbe posted this
"A little history @aligncare correct me if I'm wrong. DACA was in the hands of the US Congress, the Gang of 8, specifically, for 7 months, America did not want it, Sen. Cruz killed it with a Poison Pill amendment. "[/i]
He asked for a correction so I corrected him using Cruzs' own words. See reply 64 for the video
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@CatherineofAragon
Mine is Hockey. Its a better sport, cheaper tickets and the players (even the Russians) are respectful during the national anthem.
The NFL will not be on my TV this year. Millionaires who play a game complaining about how they've been treated so poorly. to hell with em
@driftdiver
Well, I guess hockey is a better sport if you like it, but it's all subjective. The Panthers' players haven't pulled any of that kneeling stuff.
Besides, if I turned off everything on TV because someone is a left winger, I'd never watch anything. Good grief, politics doesn't have to bleed into everything.
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If you are trying to tell me Trump will break his promise to Build a Wall, then I am going to have to hear that from Trump himself. Everything I've heard from him is contrary to that.
@jpsb
Like I said, lol.
Oh,and Trump is begging for donations...guess what for?
To build the wall. :silly:
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If you are trying to tell me Trump will break his promise to Build a Wall, then I am going to have to hear that from Trump himself. Everything I've heard from him is contrary to that.
Aww, how touching. Like a hound at the feet of its master.
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@driftdiver
Well, I guess hockey is a better sport if you like it, but it's all subjective. The Panthers' players haven't pulled any of that kneeling stuff.
Besides, if I turned off everything on TV because someone is a left winger, I'd never watch anything. Good grief, politics doesn't have to bleed into everything.
@CatherineofAragon
Funny how you accuse me of injecting politics into football when its the players, owners, and commissioner who have allowed their business to endorse the normalization of disrespect for our nation and hatred of law enforcement.
Or do you think the 8th graders who took a knee during the national anthem thought up the idea on their own?
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Aww, how touching. Like a hound at the feet of its master.
@Oceander
:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Aww, how touching. Like a hound at the feet of its master.
I sure you already know this but you bring absolutely nothing of value to any conservation you engage it.
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[quote author=XenaLee link=topic=282018.msg1458470#msg1458470 date=1506022653
Psst - Hint: Ted Cruz ain't the president. What the hell relevance is he to this discussion?
@corbe posted this "A little history @aligncare correct me if I'm wrong. DACA was in the hands of the US Congress, the Gang of 8, specifically, for 7 months, America did not want it, Sen. Cruz killed it with a Poison Pill amendment. "
He asked for a correction so I corrected him using Cruzs' own words. See reply 64 for the video
Ok. Duly noted.
But.... Cruz did NOT lie! :tongue2:
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@CatherineofAragon
Funny how you accuse me of injecting politics into football when its the players, owners, and commissioner who have allowed their business to endorse the normalization of disrespect for our nation and hatred of law enforcement.
Or do you think the 8th graders who took a knee during the national anthem thought up the idea on their own?
@driftdiver
What's funny is that I was speaking in a general sense and didn't accuse you of anything.
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Maybe she would like Aaron Schock
(https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/TAN7FKOv_mvtTOCBNwGJ5PhW3Tc/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/08/34/3/301/3019466/b8bda2b66c452315_mens-health-cover-hot-men-aaron-schock/i/Aaron-Schock.jpg)
Am I mistaken, or did the guy on the cover swallow an alligator?
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I sure you already know this but you bring absolutely nothing of value to any conservation you engage it.
Not where you're concerned (there's nothing of value to which to respond, so I don't feel like wasting my time), but then, neither do you (everywhere you're concerned). The only difference being that you still think you're the bees' knees.
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It's funny how people's perceptions change.
I lived in Texas most of my life. We always have two Republican Senators, a good one and a bad one.
Kaye Bailey Hutchison was the good Senator but then she became the bad senator and John Cornyn was the good Senator.
Now John Cornyn is the bad Senator and Ted Cruz is the good senator.
Weird, ain't it.
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Am I mistaken, or did the guy on the cover swallow an alligator?
I believe he was caught in a gay bar at one point, so I doubt it was an alligator he swallowed. :whistle:
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It's funny how people's perceptions change.
I lived in Texas most of my life. We always have two Republican Senators, a good one and a bad one.
Kaye Bailey Hutchison was the good Senator but then she became the bad senator and John Cornyn was the good Senator.
Now John Cornyn is the bad Senator and Ted Cruz is the good senator.
Weird, ain't it.
@Emjay
I contacted Hutchison, Cornyn, and Pete Olsen (our rep) after my displeasure with the Kelo decision.
Cornyn didn't reply, he just started e-mailing me his news letter, which has since stopped.
Olsen replied with the usual, thanks for contacting us and being involved, but no real response. (he replaced Tom DeLay). after that, My home phone would have messages on it from him now and then, "Sorry we missed you for the phone-in town hall", which has since stopped, also.
Hutchison was the only one that came back with an answer, that she was as dismayed about it as I was, and hoped that they could rectify future issue like that without bad Supreme Court rulings.
She didn't keep contacting me, but I think she had already made up her mind about leaving the Senate.
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If you are trying to tell me Trump will break his promise to Build a Wall, then I am going to have to hear that from Trump himself. Everything I've heard from him is contrary to that.
He already said it. Apparently you missed it. He tweeted like he always does with all information. If you don't follow the twitter you may not know what is going on with America these days.
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump · Sep 14
The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.
So there it is straight from his little fingers.