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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on October 17, 2016, 05:03:48 pm
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POSTAL WORKER Brags Online About Destroying Trump Ballots
Jim Hoft Oct 17th, 2016 9:17 am
An Ohio(?) man who describes himself as a postal worker bragged online this weekend about destroying Donald Trump absentee ballots.
This was posted by Twitter user Randygdub on Sunday–
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more
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/postal-worker-brags-online-destroying-trump-ballots/
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How do they know who the vote is for anyways
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How do they know who the vote is for anyways
I had the same question. I smell a troll.
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Creepy guy on several levels.
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Definitely a Troll. He’s not even in Ohio according to his Twitter profile, he’s in California.
https://twitter.com/randygdub (https://twitter.com/randygdub)
raandy @randygdub Sep 30
i am a small business owner and i fired an employee for being a trump supporter
Once again Jim Hoft gets punked.
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Apparently, there's plenty of stupid to go around. And Twitter seems to be the tool of choice for it.
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How do they know who the vote is for anyways.
@geronl
@Oceander
@mystery-ak
All mail ballots are mailed in a certain type envelope determined by the state. They are easy to recognize as being mail ballot envelopes. The postal worker would have to open that carrier envelope and would find another sealed envelope actually holding the ballot. That ballot envelope would have to be opened and there is the ballot with the presidential candidate being marked. The postal carrier could throw away the ballot and the two envelopes.
The kicker is, once the envelopes were opened, they couldn't be put together again so they would look unopened. That means all candidate's ballots, both Clinton and Trump, would have to be thrown away as the ballot envelope must be opened to see which candidate was chosen. To make the two sealed envelopes look pristine, like they had not been opened, would require a way to unseal those two envelopes perfectly and put them back together the same way, so they would look new.
If a postal carrier has dumped envelopes, that is election fraud with jail time.
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@geronl
@Oceander
@mystery-ak
All mail ballots are mailed in a certain type envelope determined by the state. They are easy to recognize as being mail ballot envelopes. The postal worker would have to open that carrier envelope and would find another sealed envelope actually holding the ballot. That ballot envelope would have to be opened and there is the ballot with the presidential candidate being marked. The postal carrier could throw away the ballot and the two envelopes.
The kicker is, once the envelopes were opened, they couldn't be put together again so they would look unopened. That means all candidate's ballots, both Clinton and Trump, would have to be thrown away as the ballot envelope must be opened to see which candidate was chosen. To make the two sealed envelopes look pristine, like they had not been opened, would require a way to unseal those two envelopes perfectly and put them back together the same way, so they would look new.
If a postal carrier has dumped envelopes, that is election fraud with jail time.
It's probably also a plain old felony for tampering with the mail.
I'm still inclined to say this is trolling.
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I was wondering if someone was going to dredge him up.
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I don't know why anyone votes via mail, to be honest, unless they absolutely have to.
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@geronl
@Oceander
@mystery-ak
All mail ballots are mailed in a certain type envelope determined by the state. They are easy to recognize as being mail ballot envelopes. The postal worker would have to open that carrier envelope and would find another sealed envelope actually holding the ballot. That ballot envelope would have to be opened and there is the ballot with the presidential candidate being marked. The postal carrier could throw away the ballot and the two envelopes.
The kicker is, once the envelopes were opened, they couldn't be put together again so they would look unopened. That means all candidate's ballots, both Clinton and Trump, would have to be thrown away as the ballot envelope must be opened to see which candidate was chosen. To make the two sealed envelopes look pristine, like they had not been opened, would require a way to unseal those two envelopes perfectly and put them back together the same way, so they would look new.
If a postal carrier has dumped envelopes, that is election fraud with jail time.
So...in essence....you're saying that the/a postal carrier would have to be too stupid to realize that he/she is destroying ballots for both candidates by tampering with the envelopes? Nah. Couldn't be! Trumpocrats and Democrats (same thing, actually) could never be that dense. :silly:
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I had the same question. I smell a troll.
Same.
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I don't know why anyone votes via mail, to be honest, unless they absolutely have to.
Well there a lot of people who absolutely have to, the elderly, disabled and those lacking transportation. There are also many that just don't want to deal with the polling places after working all day. When I was working my last job I would often be out the door by 4 AM and not get home till six, all I wanted to do was get home and relax before starting all over again.
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Same.
Yes, his twitter feed reads like provocation, not reality.
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I know it was on the Daily Beast, but Rush and Drudge believed it..
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/17/drudge-limbaugh-fall-for-twitter-joke-about-postal-worker-destroying-trump-ballots.html
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I know it was on the Daily Beast, but Rush and Drudge believed it..
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/17/drudge-limbaugh-fall-for-twitter-joke-about-postal-worker-destroying-trump-ballots.html
This is showing just how gullible the Trump side is.
They are as gullible as a low-information college voter.
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I don't know why anyone votes via mail, to be honest, unless they absolutely have to.
I voted absentee once when I was very ill. Then I was told that, unless the race is close, absentee ballots would not be counted. Don't know if that's true or not, but from then on, I've made sure I voted in person, even if I have to be carried to the polls.
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This is showing just how gullible the Trump side is.
They are as gullible as a low-information college voter.
Rush has lost all credibility imho..
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Thank YOU for posting this.
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Rush has lost all credibility imho..
No kidding!
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Rush has lost all credibility imho..
He's basically absolved Trump of his sins, putting it all on the shoulders of the media. He might as well set a retirement date, one that's sooner rather than later.
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Apparently, there's plenty of stupid to go around. And Twitter seems to be the tool of choice for it.
That's why Trump love to tweet.
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He's basically absolved Trump of his sins, putting it all on the shoulders of the media. He might as well set a retirement date, one that's sooner rather than later.
Had Trump been a Dem, he would have going against him all of the time. He might as well. Personally, I think we are seeing the end of talk radio.
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POSTAL WORKER Brags Online About Destroying Trump Ballots
Jim Hoft Oct 17th, 2016 9:17 am
An Ohio(?) man who describes himself as a postal worker bragged online this weekend about destroying Donald Trump absentee ballots.
This was posted by Twitter user Randygdub on Sunday–
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more
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/postal-worker-brags-online-destroying-trump-ballots/
troll or not this kind of shit should be ,punishable by mandatory 30 imprisonment or hanging if a jury decides the offence is grave enough
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troll or not this kind of shit should be a federal offense ,punishable by mandatory 30 imprisonment or hanging if a jury decides the offence is grave enough
What for a bad joke?? For making Rush and Drudge looking like a fool??
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troll or not this kind of shit should be ,punishable by mandatory 30 imprisonment or hanging if a jury decides the offence is grave enough
You think telling a stupid joke should be 30 years in prison or hanging... wow.
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Hillary has operatives all over the place, doesn't she?
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You think telling a stupid joke should be 30 years in prison or hanging... wow.
@geronl
Only if it makes Trump look bad..
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Hillary has operatives all over the place, doesn't she?
If I'm am operative of Hillary, how come she hasn't send me a check yet????
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@geronl
Only if it makes Trump look bad..
This is why SNL must be canceled too, lol...
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You think telling a stupid joke should be 30 years in prison or hanging... wow.
Lock me up too. I'm a habitual offender. :nometalk:
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I just looked, he wasn't standing behind me.... *whew*
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This is why SNL must be canceled too, lol...
@geronl
I know the joke made Rush and Drudge look like total jackasses..
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You think telling a stupid joke should be 30 years in prison or hanging... wow.
If that's the case, I would get the death penalty.
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Hillary has operatives all over the place, doesn't she?
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What for a bad joke?? For making Rush and Drudge looking like a fool??
I did not make myself clear . lets say this is true and a person is using his position to destroy absentee ballots or a person or persons rig a presidential election by massive voter fraud .what should the penalty be
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We must find and punish anyone who tells a joke!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Q9WtDOGP0
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If that's the case, I would get the death penalty.
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"Roll on One"
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I did not make myself clear . lets say this is true and a person is using his position to destroy absentee ballots or a person or persons rig a presidential election by massive voter fraud .what should the penalty be
1. Lighten up
2. There are no Trump ballots or Clinton ballots
3. If he truly did it, he would not be dumb enough to say it on Twitter
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Creepy guy on several levels.
Absolutely, but I still think the post person stole the 20 bucks in cash I sent my son.
We used to call them mailmen but now they're personpersons.
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This is why SNL must be canceled too, lol...
SNL has not been funny in a very long time, but we don't have to watch it and most people don't.
However, I am enjoying the despicable Baldwin playing the despicable Trump.
I also read the story of when Trump was on SNL and the writers tried to inject a little gentle humor into the opening bit, making a little fun of some casino deal, and Trump turned purple. You don't joke about The Donald.
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I know it was on the Daily Beast, but Rush and Drudge believed it..
@kevindavis
They believed it because they didn't read my post number 6. Those ballots are sealed in another envelope inside the carrier envelope for two reasons and one of them is, to keep one from doing what this carrier says he did.
People seem to think elections are a haphazard, oh, let's have an election, print some ballots or get a machine and set it up and there you go. The Texas Election Code law book consists of pages that are 8x10 in size, and about 550 pages. I taught that book for ten + years and new laws were passed every two years and a new book published. Every aspect of an election is covered in that book. Nothing is left to chance. Every state has a law book like that for their elections.
Every county or parish in the US uses such a law book to hold their elections. You can call your Republican County Chairman and find out what he/she does to help fair elections happen in your county/parish.
You can go to your Secretary of State website and likely find a link to the election laws. You can surely go to your legislature website and for sure the election laws will be there. You can read how voting machines are selected in your state and how they are treated to be sure they are working correctly on election day.
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How do they know who the vote is for anyways
If they come from a zip code that mostly votes conservative they are likely Trump votes. If they come from a zip code that mostly votes democrat they are likely Hillary votes.
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http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-uh-oh-media-figures-and-officials-got-1476753299-htmlstory.html
Media figures and officials are suckered by a troll's Ohio voter fraud joke
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,230210.0/topicseen.html
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I voted absentee once when I was very ill. Then I was told that, unless the race is close, absentee ballots would not be counted. Don't know if that's true or not, but from then on, I've made sure I voted in person, even if I have to be carried to the polls.
@Applewood
Every mail in/absentee ballot is counted if it qualifies. A committee called the Early Voting Ballot Board meets two days or more before election day and they go through the mail ballot paper work to verify that person is a registered voter, and continue to qualify the ones as they come in after starting their work, and those ballots are given to central counting to be counted at the end of election day. If you filled out the paper work correctly and you were a registered voter, your ballot was counted.
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I did not make myself clear . lets say this is true and a person is using his position to destroy absentee ballots or a person or persons rig a presidential election by massive voter fraud .what should the penalty be
@Charlespg
The penalty (fine and prison time) for voter fraud is already determined by your state's laws.
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@Applewood
Every mail in/absentee ballot is counted if it qualifies. A committee called the Early Voting Ballot Board meets two days or more before election day and they go through the mail ballot paper work to verify that person is a registered voter, and continue to qualify the ones as they come in after starting their work, and those ballots are given to central counting to be counted at the end of election day. If you filled out the paper work correctly and you were a registered voter, your ballot was counted.
@Victoria33
Thank you for the enlightenment.
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Thanks for that information, @Victoria33 .
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Apparently, there's plenty of stupid to go around. And Twitter seems to be the tool of choice for it.
@debrawiest
Well,.........,the origin of the word Twitter IS "Twit",so why is anyone surprised at all the stupidity on display there? That's the equivalent of being surprised that water is wet.
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I did not make myself clear . lets say this is true and a person is using his position to destroy absentee ballots or a person or persons rig a presidential election by massive voter fraud .what should the penalty be
You were very clear. You reacted rather than thought things through. That behavior endemic to the entire Trump movement, and Trump himself. Thats why your entire belief structure is a danger to the Republic as a whole and to those around you.
Had you thought it through you'd realized that if in fact this was true,, laws already exist to address vote tampering. If you thought a bit more you'd have realized that the reason Vote fraud in America is rarely addressed is because of electing principled people to ensure that it's addressed is what you refuse to do. Instead, you elect show ponies that make you feel good because you won. But even that fails a lot of the time because they don't win. BECAUSE they are show ponies and not principled people.
Instead you concoct conspiracy theories and then beat your psuedopatriotic chest about throwing people in prison to cover for your bad decisions and actual Americans that believe in the Constitution are stuck living the results of your vapid ideas about politics and justice.
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@Victoria33
Thought you would enjoy this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/17/drudge-limbaugh-fall-for-twitter-joke-about-postal-worker-destroying-trump-ballots.html?via=desktop&source=twitter
BTW, your ping list is missing the @ for @XenaLee so she doesn't get pinged. I'm sure she would enjoy the info.
@RAT Patrol
Thanks, will fix XeneLee mistake now.
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Absolutely, but I still think the post person stole the 20 bucks in cash I sent my son.
We used to call them mailmen but now they're personpersons.
I worked for the Postal Service for about 17 years. Most mail valuables are stolen by mail clerks who work indoors sorting the mail before the carrier receives it. Carriers don't have time to go through the mail. They only have a limited time to case their mail and get on the road.
Letter cases are where most letters carrying valuables are stolen by mail clerks. In many of the places where they sort letters manually (less and less due to automation) there are overhead spy posts where postal inspectors can look down on clerks sorting letters manually.
I learned to forget about these overhead spy stations. But occasionally some dishonest postal workers who had worked in these letter cases long enough could tell if there was cash in an envelope. One such person was caught and fired at the facility where I worked shortly before I was hired.
The moral of the story is: NEVER!!! send cash through the mail. Not only is there the odd dishonest employee, the machines destroy a certain amount of letter mail as well. Attempts are made to piece together the mangled mail, but it's not always possible. Believe it or not, many people do not put return addresses on their mail, and if it is ripped up by a machine, it's often very difficult to return the mail article to the sender or pass it along to the receiver. I used to have to try and do that, and during X-mas season it's well nigh impossible.
NEVER!!! send cash through the mail. And if you send gift cards, put added postage on so it doesn't get sent through the machines. Lumpy letter mail is many times considered non-machinable anyway, but don't take a chance....always add the postage for non-machinable mail. The automated machines like nothing better than to rip up lumpy mail.
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Can't believe in this day and age people use cash for anything other than vending machines and buying candy bars and small stuff.
My aunt and uncle had $9K cash sitting in their safe and hired out the bathroom remodel while they were on vacation, when they got back from vacation the bathroom was unfinished and the safe was gone. No way to prove which one of the subcontracters or employees stole the money. That is what Dave Ramsey calls a "stupid tax".
Use cash as little as possible.
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I worked for the Postal Service for about 17 years. Most mail valuables are mostly stolen by mail clerks who work indoors sorting the mail before the carrier receives it. Carriers don't have time to go through the mail. They only have a limited time to case their mail and get on the road.
Letter cases are where most letters carrying valuables are stolen by mail clerks. In many of the places where they sort letters manually (less and less due to automation) there are overhead spy posts where postal inspectors can look down on clerks sorting letters manually.
I learned to forget about these overhead spy stations. But occasionally some dishonest postal workers who had worked in these letter cases long enough could tell if there was cash in an envelope. One such person was caught and fired at the facility where I worked shortly before I was hired.
The moral of the story is: NEVER!!! send cash through the mail. Not only is there the odd dishonest employee, the machines destroy a certain amount of letter mail as well. Attempts are made to piece together the mangled mail, but it's not always possible. Believe it or not, many people do not put return addresses on their mail, and if it is ripped up by a machine, it's often very difficult to return the mail article to the sender or pass it along to the receiver. I used to have to try and do that, and during X-mas season it's well nigh impossible.
NEVER!!! send cash through the mail. And if you send gift cards, put added postage on so it doesn't get sent through the machines. Lumpy letter mail is many times considered non-machinable anyway, but don't take a chance....always add the postage for non-machinable mail. The automated machines like nothing better than to rip up lumpy mail.
I send mail maybe once or twice a year, if that, now. Almost everything can be done by email. Doesn't get lost and doesn't require me to go buy a stamp.
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How do they know who the vote is for anyways
Would need to open up and disqualify a lot of Hillary ballots to look for Trump ballots. I say this is bogus.
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Can't believe in this day and age people use cash for anything other than vending machines and buying candy bars and small stuff.
My aunt and uncle had $9K cash sitting in their safe and hired out the bathroom remodel while they were on vacation, when they got back from vacation the bathroom was unfinished and the safe was gone. No way to prove which one of the subcontracters or employees stole the money. That is what Dave Ramsey calls a "stupid tax".
Use cash as little as possible.
I would never let any contractor or worker into my home while I was on vacation. When I had my bath remodeled a few years ago, I was at the house every day. I would not even give them keys to my place. When they wanted in, they had to wait for me.
I'm an old fashioned gal. I still pay for most items like groceries with cash. Really can't stand being in line at the market behind someone fiddling with a credit/debit card or worse, a check. I just want to get into the store, get what I need, pay for it and go.
However, I never keep more than a hundred dollars on me. $9,000 in cash is really not necessary.
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However, I never keep more than a hundred dollars on me. $9,000 in cash is really not necessary.
@Applewood
I hate cash to the point I have never had much of it at any point in my life.
My goal since I was about 20 has been to die with something like 37 cents in my pocket,and owing millions to banks. I have nightmares about dying with money in the bank that I could have spent enjoying life.
So it's me and the credit card companies,competing to see who is going to come out on top.
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Can't believe in this day and age people use cash for anything other than vending machines and buying candy bars and small stuff.
My aunt and uncle had $9K cash sitting in their safe and hired out the bathroom remodel while they were on vacation, when they got back from vacation the bathroom was unfinished and the safe was gone. No way to prove which one of the subcontracters or employees stole the money. That is what Dave Ramsey calls a "stupid tax".
Use cash as little as possible.
Normal people hide their cash in their mattresses. :smokin:
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@Applewood
I hate cash to the point I have never had much of it at any point in my life.
My goal since I was about 20 has been to die with something like 37 cents in my pocket,and owing millions to banks. I have nightmares about dying with money in the bank that I could have spent enjoying life.
So it's me and the credit card companies,competing to see who is going to come out on top.
LOL
I had an unmarried uncle who would joke that when he died, we should turn him upside down. Any change that fell out of his pocket would be our inheritance.
Actually, when he passed, he had a life insurance policy that paid his final debts and tbat was it. If anyone was looking for big bucks, they were out of luck. Smart man.
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@Applewood
I hate cash to the point I have never had much of it at any point in my life.
My goal since I was about 20 has been to die with something like 37 cents in my pocket,and owing millions to banks. I have nightmares about dying with money in the bank that I could have spent enjoying life.
So it's me and the credit card companies,competing to see who is going to come out on top.
Who's going to come out on top? The banks.
You'll be pushing up daisies and the banks will pass on those losses to other customers.
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Who's going to come out on top? The banks.
You'll be pushing up daisies and the banks will pass on those losses to other customers.
You are supposed to find an island off the coast somewhere... declare it an independent nation (a la Sealand)... and the file for UN development aid, as your nation is an economic basket case.
Then squirrel the money into Swiss bank accounts and ruthlessly oppress your non-existent subjects until France offers you a villa on the French Riviera to abdicate.
Then you retire to the French Riviera with the millions you took from the UN... and hob-nob with the world's most despotic rulers.
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You are supposed to find an island off the coast somewhere... declare it an independent nation (a la Sealand)... and the file for UN development aid, as your nation is an economic basket case.
Then squirrel the money into Swiss bank accounts and ruthlessly oppress your non-existent subjects until France offers you a villa on the French Riviera to abdicate.
Then you retire to the French Riviera with the millions you took from the UN... and hob-nob with the world's most despotic rulers.
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@HonestJohn
DAMN! Why didn't someone tell me this decades ago! I suspected I needed a better plan,but didn't know what it would be.
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You are supposed to find an island off the coast somewhere... declare it an independent nation (a la Sealand)... and the file for UN development aid, as your nation is an economic basket case.
Then squirrel the money into Swiss bank accounts and ruthlessly oppress your non-existent subjects until France offers you a villa on the French Riviera to abdicate.
Then you retire to the French Riviera with the millions you took from the UN... and hob-nob with the world's most despotic rulers.
:smokin:
Why expend that much effort?
Get a twitter account, say you'll build a wall if elected president and pocket the millions of dollars people send you. Despots will seek your counsel and invite you to all the parties. When terrorists attack France again, Sue America for supplying their arms and retire a billionaire.
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I voted absentee once when I was very ill. Then I was told that, unless the race is close, absentee ballots would not be counted. Don't know if that's true or not, but from then on, I've made sure I voted in person, even if I have to be carried to the polls.
I'm curious what state that is.
When I was a Judge of Elections in PA, the Majority and Minority Inspectors and I opened and counted them after the polls closed. They were then reported on our ballot totals along with the ballot boxes.
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I worked for the Postal Service for about 17 years. Most mail valuables are mostly stolen by mail clerks who work indoors sorting the mail before the carrier receives it. Carriers don't have time to go through the mail. They only have a limited time to case their mail and get on the road.
The moral of the story is: NEVER!!! send cash through the mail. NEVER!!! send cash through the mail.
@goatprairie
@mystery-ak
@CatherineofAragon
I knew someone who dated a woman who retired as a postal carrier. She said the same as you - don't send cash through the mail. She said it is stolen all the time.
We also now have people, during holiday time, who travel around streets looking for packages left at the door of houses, and they steal them. That was happening at a town in Ohio where our family members live. I sent them packages/gifts from Amazon and would tell them when Amazon told me the packages would be delivered. The wife would make sure she was home that day so she could get the packages when they arrived. Since they are direct family, their packages cost a significant amount of money and I didn't want some crook stealing their gifts.
Jesus Christ changed the behavior of people across the world. He uplifted women, gave them worth as well as teaching poor people had worth - he taught Christian behavior which includes doing good works for others. People began to help other people instead of thinking only of good for themselves.
I am so old I remember when Christian behavior was the norm for people's behavior. We didn't lock our houses and didn't lock our cars when in town. Most people in the area were at church on Sunday and most went to the church on Wednesday night. By the time I was in high school, I was the church pianist. I couldn't stay out late on Saturday night because the preacher (we went to a Baptist church) would pick me up early on Sunday and go to Kilgore, Texas, where he did a radio broadcast. My job was to play him on the air and off the air.
What happened to this Christian behavior? If you check out churches these days, there are more older people there than younger people. As a country, we have lost the majority of people being Christians. Behavior has returned to behavior before Christ. Most people do not know where the dating of our calendar came from. Our date of 2016 means it has been 2,016 years since the birth of Christ (yes, I know there is some discrepancy about the actual year date he was born). I am surprised there hasn't been a movement from nonbelievers to change calendars because it is a Christian dating. Israel uses a different calendar as do some countries but the majority of countries use the Christian calendar.
When one removes Christian behavior, we have chaos and that is what is happening to our country. That is why postal workers are stealing money from envelopes. It is why packages are not safe to be left at the door of a house. It is why you lock your house and your car. It is why a Republican office had a bomb thrown into it a few days ago. It is why people kill other people. A human life doesn't matter to non-Christians - people think of only what they want and will kill others to get it.
Will this country move back to Christian behavior? No.
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@Victoria33
>>When one removes Christian behavior, we have chaos and that is what is happening to our country. That is why postal workers are stealing money from envelopes. It is why packages are not safe to be left at the door of a house. It is why you lock your house and your car. It is why a Republican office had a bomb thrown into it a few days ago. It is why people kill other people. A human life doesn't matter to non-Christians - people think of only what they want and will kill others to get it.<<
Yeah,cause we all know that no Christian would do anything like that,right?
Do you actually KNOW any preachers,rabbi's,or priests?
Ever heard the expression "I am as excited as a Priest at a Cub Scout meeting!"?
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@Victoria33
Yeah,cause we all know that no Christian would do anything like that,right?
Do you actually KNOW any preachers,rabbi's,or priests?
Ever heard the expression "I am as excited as a Priest at a Cub Scout meeting!"?
@sneakypete
That is correct - no Christian would do anything like that. If a person says he/she is a Christian and commits terrible acts, he/she was only voicing words when he/she said he/she was a Christian. The Bible says:
"Matthew 7: 15-16: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits."
Persons claiming to be one thing may actually be another. We are to discern people by their "fruits" which means their actions.
I have known preachers all my life. The present priest at our Catholic Church was an army sniper before he entered Catholic seminary to become a priest.