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Fauci no longer confident COVID-19 emerged naturally
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter |
| May 22, 2021 09:55 PM
Dr. Anthony Fauci is now calling for further investigation into the origins of COVID-19 in a departure from his dismissal of the Wuhan lab leak hypothesis last year.
President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser, who has led the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984, said he was unsure when asked by Politifact's Katie Sanders about whether he was still confident that COVID-19 emerged naturally.
"No, actually. ... No, I’m not convinced about that. I think that we should continue to investigate what went on in China until we find out to the best of our ability exactly what happened," Fauci said during the May 11 interview. "Certainly, the people who’ve investigated it say it likely was the emergence from an animal reservoir that then infected individuals, but it could’ve been something else, and we need to find that out. So, you know, that’s the reason why I said I’m perfectly in favor of any investigation that looks into the origin of the virus."
Over a year ago, during a May 4, 2020, National Geographic interview, Fauci laughed off the possibility that COVID-19 escaped from a lab when science editor Nsikan Akpan asked, "Do you believe or is there evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was made in the lab in China or accidentally released from a lab in China?"
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fauci-no-longer-confident-covid-19-emerged-naturally
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Enough was known a year ago that Fauci "laughing off" the lab leak possibility back last year was inexcusably dumb at the time. More evidence has emerged since, but Fauci should have known not to dismiss entirely the possibility.
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Fauci no longer confident COVID-19 emerged naturally
That may change tomorrow.
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Fauci knows with certainty where it came from.
He's just covering his ass because there's been numerous published news stories recently showing where it came from and he's been on the other side of it.
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Something weird is going on. For Fauci to implicate China in any way at all is an extreme change from everything he has said for over a year. No to mention that China has dirt on him concerning his funding of the Covid research from the beginning. Also, we all know China has tons of dirt on Biden and his dirtbag son.
Saw a thing on Tucker in which a virus expert said the fact that Covid is manmade is irrefutable. She said that virologists can tell by the fundamental structure of the virus that it cannot occur naturally, just by the way it is configured. He may be admitting this now because he no longer has any choice. The more the world learns about the virus, the more they are seeing unequivocal evidence that it was an engineered and manmade designed virus.
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Fauci knows with certainty where it came from.
He's just covering his ass because there's been numerous published news stories recently showing where it came from and he's been on the other side of it.
Fauci reportedly signed the waiver that allowed illegal gain-of-function work that led to the Covid which was released. He's as dirty as he could be.
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Fauci reportedly signed the waiver that allowed illegal gain-of-function work that led to the Covid which was released. He's as dirty as he could be.
Fauci, Biden and the Chinese are all GUILTY!!!!!!
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Dr Fauci now says he's 'not convinced' COVID developed naturally and calls for a full investigation into 'what went on in China'
Dr Anthony Fauci questioned the origins of COVID-19 at a May 11 PolitiFact event
Asked if he's 'still confident it developed naturally', Fauci said: 'No, actually'
'I think we should continue to investigate what went on in China until we continue to find out to the best of our ability what happened,' he said
Fauci's comments came after he clashed with Sen Rand Paul on the topic at a Senate hearing earlier this month
In front of the Senate Fauci said he could not rule out the possibility that COVID-19 leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
On Thursday the White House renewed calls for an 'independent, transparent investigation' into the origins of the virus
It followed a report from Republicans which found 'significant circumstantial evidence' of a lab leak
By Megan Sheets For Dailymail.com and Geoff Earle, Deputy U.S. Political Editor Aboard Air Force One
Published: 13:37 EDT, 23 May 2021 | Updated: 15:02 EDT, 23 May 2021
Dr Anthony Fauci revealed he is 'not convinced' that COVID-19 developed naturally and called for an open investigation into its origins as China faces mounting pressure to provide transparency on the issue.
Fauci, the nation's leading expert in infectious diseases, explained his uncertainty during a PolitiFact event on May 11 entitled: United Facts of America: A Festival of Fact-Checking.
'There's a lot of cloudiness around the origins of COVID-19 still, so I wanted to ask, are you still confident that it developed naturally?' PolitiFact managing editor Katie Sanders asked Fauci.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9610069/Dr-Fauci-says-hes-not-convinced-COVID-19-formed-naturally.html
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"Dr Fauci now says"......how many times have we heard this.
Too many.
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Who really gives a flip to what Fauci says. He is an enemy of the U.S.A.
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Polling Shows Americans Are So Over Dr. Anthony Fauci
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/05/23/polling-shows-americans-are-so-over-dr-anthony-fauci-n385107
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Fauci is just trying to distance himself from the blood trail that leads right to the door of the department he has headed for decades.
Funding from NIAID was channeled to the gain of function research being carried out at Wuhan, and the researchers on the gain of function research published in Naturein 2015 (creating a chimera virus from a bat coronavirus and a "mouse adapted SARS backbone") included two on the team from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. That research was being carried out in North Carolina, and was halted in 2014. The NIAID had funding in that, too. Those dots are not hard to connect. If he didn't KNOW exactly where the virus came from, he should have.
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https://twitter.com/raheemkassam/status/1396659102718349314?s=21
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https://twitter.com/leonhwolf/status/1396583284252069890?s=21
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Well, doggone it!
Sometimes a "conspiracy theory" is just a description of a very real conspiracy.
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Well, doggone it!
Sometimes a "conspiracy theory" is just a description of a very real conspiracy.
Yep. This article is what convinced me:
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038
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Yep. This article is what convinced me:
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038
Once I connected the dots from North Carolina to Wuhan, and had read the paper and descriptions of the virus and symptoms/actions in COVID-19, I was 99.9% sure it had come from that lab.
I even postulated three ways it could have got out:
Sloppy protocols, including the possible sale or improper disposal of lab animals (sold for food out the back door).
An unintentionally Infected worker carried and spread it.
Intentional release, either sanctioned by PLA/CCP or not (disgruntled/homicidal worker).
As for being a natural virus, the descriptions of the virus in the Nature paper in 2015 fit like a glove. Then hearing how the bat virus involved was nowhere near Wuhan naturally, and the absence of an intermediate host, a trans species jump grew even less likely.
Then I started reading tidbits which confirmed my conclusions..
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Once I connected the dots from North Carolina to Wuhan, and had read the paper and descriptions of the virus and symptoms/actions in COVID-19, I was 99.9% sure it had come from that lab.
I even postulated three ways it could have got out:
Sloppy protocols, including the possible sale or improper disposal of lab animals (sold for food out the back door).
An unintentionally Infected worker carried and spread it.
Intentional release, either sanctioned by PLA/CCP or not (disgruntled/homicidal worker).
As for being a natural virus, the descriptions of the virus in the Nature paper in 2015 fit like a glove. Then hearing how the bat virus involved was nowhere near Wuhan naturally, and the absence of an intermediate host, a trans species jump grew even less likely.
Then I started reading tidbits which confirmed my conclusions..
In the article I linked they point out how easy it is for a virus to escape a Level 2 lab, and how the virologists hate working in Level 4 environments and are thus highly motivated to down-rate a virus. Given China's penchant for sloppy safety standards and QC, an accident is highly likely.
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In the article I linked they point out how easy it is for a virus to escape a Level 2 lab, and how the virologists hate working in Level 4 environments and are thus highly motivated to down-rate a virus. Given China's penchant for sloppy safety standards and QC, an accident is highly likely.
That's my take, too.
It was China's actions afterward which guaranteed the virus would go global, and their attempts to cover it up that made things worse. In one sense, they had a crisis, but by not being forthcoming they used it to provoke panic and keep it going globally, even using the WHO director they insisted on to give bad advice to ensure the virus would spread.
The advantage, albeit an unknown, was that they could use this to damage Trump, who was a problem for them in trade negotiations and elsewhere. Not so easily bought as Democrats. The question is whether there was collusion and even advice to the democrats on how to utilize the virus to enable the theft of the election, and who involved who when and how. Is Fauci just a lying toad, or did he have incentive to do precisely wrong things for the economy, and if so, from where/whom? Have others been compromised, to the extent that they would risk their professional reputations on badly (obviously badly) crafted studies of Hydroxychloroquine (never proposed as a stand alone treatment) without the rest of the regimen, that they would poison participants in Brazil with lethal doses of Chloroquine, and administer a protocol intended to stop viral replication only at the late stages of the disease when the damage was already done?
The reaction to the virus is where the real evil lies, be it unintentional or calculated, whether it was coached long term, or just enabled by the Chinese withholding information.
It is the crime of the century. Not the piddling fracas on Capitol Hill on 1/6.
But then, it's early in the century, yet.
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Yep. This article is what convinced me:
https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038
Very good article, thanks.
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Very good article, thanks.
Thanks to @PeteS in CA , who was the person who first posted it here.
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https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1396838798156259334?s=21
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https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1396697081398456320?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1396838798156259334?s=21
And people died!
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The Chi-coms played with fire and the World got burned. The WHO was the smoke detector the Chi-coms disconnected.
https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-coronavirus-pandemic-china-only-on-ap-bats-24fbadc58cee3a40bca2ddf7a14d2955 (https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-coronavirus-pandemic-china-only-on-ap-bats-24fbadc58cee3a40bca2ddf7a14d2955)
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC2008/S00025/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic.htm (https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC2008/S00025/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic.htm)
https://medium.com/microbial-instincts/the-latest-theory-that-may-answer-the-origin-of-covid-19-d9efbe7072ae (https://medium.com/microbial-instincts/the-latest-theory-that-may-answer-the-origin-of-covid-19-d9efbe7072ae)
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-related-sars-cov-2-found-chinese-mine-2013-was-sent-wuhan-lab-1515625 (https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-related-sars-cov-2-found-chinese-mine-2013-was-sent-wuhan-lab-1515625)
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mining-coronavirus-genomes-clues-outbreak-s-origins (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mining-coronavirus-genomes-clues-outbreak-s-origins)
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1316522/coronavirus-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners/ (https://www.the-sun.com/news/1316522/coronavirus-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners/)
https://merogenomics.ca/blog/en/128/Could-COVID-19-have-actually-originated-many-years-ago (https://merogenomics.ca/blog/en/128/Could-COVID-19-have-actually-originated-many-years-ago)
https://nypost.com/2020/08/15/covid-19-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners-in-2012-scientists/ (https://nypost.com/2020/08/15/covid-19-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners-in-2012-scientists/)
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/ (https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/)
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200817/Startling-report-suggests-COVID-19-may-have-first-appeared-in-2012.aspx (https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200817/Startling-report-suggests-COVID-19-may-have-first-appeared-in-2012.aspx)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7606707/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7606707/)
Comrade, Winnie the Pooh, has a lot of explaining to do.
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The Chi-coms played with fire and the World got burned. The WHO was the smoke detector the Chi-coms disconnected.
https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-coronavirus-pandemic-china-only-on-ap-bats-24fbadc58cee3a40bca2ddf7a14d2955 (https://apnews.com/article/united-nations-coronavirus-pandemic-china-only-on-ap-bats-24fbadc58cee3a40bca2ddf7a14d2955)
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC2008/S00025/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic.htm (https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC2008/S00025/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic.htm)
https://medium.com/microbial-instincts/the-latest-theory-that-may-answer-the-origin-of-covid-19-d9efbe7072ae (https://medium.com/microbial-instincts/the-latest-theory-that-may-answer-the-origin-of-covid-19-d9efbe7072ae)
https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-related-sars-cov-2-found-chinese-mine-2013-was-sent-wuhan-lab-1515625 (https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-related-sars-cov-2-found-chinese-mine-2013-was-sent-wuhan-lab-1515625)
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mining-coronavirus-genomes-clues-outbreak-s-origins (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mining-coronavirus-genomes-clues-outbreak-s-origins)
https://www.the-sun.com/news/1316522/coronavirus-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners/ (https://www.the-sun.com/news/1316522/coronavirus-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners/)
https://merogenomics.ca/blog/en/128/Could-COVID-19-have-actually-originated-many-years-ago (https://merogenomics.ca/blog/en/128/Could-COVID-19-have-actually-originated-many-years-ago)
https://nypost.com/2020/08/15/covid-19-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners-in-2012-scientists/ (https://nypost.com/2020/08/15/covid-19-first-appeared-in-chinese-miners-in-2012-scientists/)
https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/ (https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/a-proposed-origin-for-sars-cov-2-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/)
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200817/Startling-report-suggests-COVID-19-may-have-first-appeared-in-2012.aspx (https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200817/Startling-report-suggests-COVID-19-may-have-first-appeared-in-2012.aspx)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7606707/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7606707/)
Comrade, Winnie the Pooh, has a lot of explaining to do.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/DFrGBA7tV9-_JHDowfen5pQXK1-B6tEItRIe6cUP6BXFtbimN4HQwCgQhE1hPsUXQIwY0vpBeW_j_-LNZNsg6STevQz1XjdOTslvB2cJUwC2cPHWxLoLFV9b9q9cvcw6POPAin9bcn6C6bo)
3.5 million dead! China needs to be held accountable.
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https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1396769717805780994?s=21
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I suspect that Fauci changed his stance on the origin of the virus because he knew the WSJ was about to be published. The jerk gives me whiplash.
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I suspect that Fauci changed his stance on the origin of the virus because he knew the WSJ was about to be published. The jerk gives me whiplash.
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I suspect that Fauci changed his stance on the origin of the virus because he knew the WSJ was about to be published. The jerk gives me whiplash.
He's a real chickenshit, for sure. His #1 goal seems to be covering his own ass.
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https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1396847058028466179?s=21
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Surprise, surprise, surprise. Not.
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That's my take, too.
It was China's actions afterward which guaranteed the virus would go global, and their attempts to cover it up that made things worse. In one sense, they had a crisis, but by not being forthcoming they used it to provoke panic and keep it going globally, even using the WHO director they insisted on to give bad advice to ensure the virus would spread.
The advantage, albeit an unknown, was that they could use this to damage Trump, who was a problem for them in trade negotiations and elsewhere. Not so easily bought as Democrats. The question is whether there was collusion and even advice to the democrats on how to utilize the virus to enable the theft of the election, and who involved who when and how. Is Fauci just a lying toad, or did he have incentive to do precisely wrong things for the economy, and if so, from where/whom? Have others been compromised, to the extent that they would risk their professional reputations on badly (obviously badly) crafted studies of Hydroxychloroquine (never proposed as a stand alone treatment) without the rest of the regimen, that they would poison participants in Brazil with lethal doses of Chloroquine, and administer a protocol intended to stop viral replication only at the late stages of the disease when the damage was already done?
The reaction to the virus is where the real evil lies, be it unintentional or calculated, whether it was coached long term, or just enabled by the Chinese withholding information.
It is the crime of the century. Not the piddling fracas on Capitol Hill on 1/6.
But then, it's early in the century, yet.
And China needs to be held accountable. It is a real eye opener on how so many at high levels of government and the news media are deeply invested in protecting China. There needs to be hell to pay.
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And China needs to be held accountable. It is a real eye opener on how so many at high levels of government and the news media are deeply invested in protecting China. There needs to be hell to pay.
:yowsa:
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And people died!
And millions died!
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He's a real chickenshit, for sure. His #1 goal seems to be covering his own ass.
Now it is, but the wind has changed on the issue of COVID, and there are a lot of pissed off people who have lost jobs/businesses/homes/marriages/loved ones and more because of policy that wart advised and lies he has told.
He should be in the dock alongside Cuomo and a few others when the time comes...
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Now it is, but the wind has changed on the issue of COVID, and there are a lot of pissed off people who have lost jobs/businesses/homes/marriages/loved ones and more because of policy that wart advised and lies he has told.
He should be in the dock alongside Cuomo and a few others when the time comes...
Roger that!
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I suspect that Fauci changed his stance on the origin of the virus because he knew the WSJ was about to be published. The jerk gives me whiplash.
Fauxcii was more hell bent on damaging Trump than controling the pandemic.
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Fauxcii was more hell bent on damaging Trump than controling the pandemic.
Yes, once be saw there was something to be gained by doing that, he sure did.
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Fauxcii was more hell bent on damaging Trump than controling the pandemic.
That has been my impression for a very long time.
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Fauxcii was more hell bent on damaging Trump than controling the pandemic.
I could tell that from the first press conference, when Fauci was snickering and making faces behind Trump's back while he was speaking.
Why Trump didn't can that little troll right then I will never understand.
But on another note, you have to be a real deep psychopath to be able to sleep after killing thousands, in the case of Cuomo, and hundreds of thousands in the case of Fauci, with his shifting "Simon Says" type 'rules' which made no sense.
How does Fauci sleep at night, knowing what he helped to unleash on the world? Fauci makes Mengele look like an amature.
But yes, I agree that Fauci's primary objective was to damage Trump at any costs. Fauci viewed COVID not as a pandemic, but rather as a political tool to be used for him to achieve his own personal goals.
He knew very well that Trump would fire his ass if he got a second term. And he was right.
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He's a real chickenshit, for sure. His #1 goal seems to be covering his own ass.
And he gets paid well to do it. He sure acted as if he knew everything there was to know about this virus back in 2019 (e.g. don't need to wear masks, can't be spread from human to human, etc.)
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I could tell that from the first press conference, when Fauci was snickering and making faces behind Trump's back while he was speaking.
Why Trump didn't can that little troll right then I will never understand.
But on another note, you have to be a real deep psychopath to be able to sleep after killing thousands, in the case of Cuomo, and hundreds of thousands in the case of Fauci, with his shifting "Simon Says" type 'rules' which made no sense.
How does Fauci sleep at night, knowing what he helped to unleash on the world? Fauci makes Mengele look like an amature.
But yes, I agree that Fauci's primary objective was to damage Trump at any costs. Fauci viewed COVID not as a pandemic, but rather as a political tool to be used for him to achieve his own personal goals.
He knew very well that Trump would fire his ass if he got a second term. And he was right.
Of course he can sleep. Either he isn't admitting he did anything wrong, or he just doesn't care about anyone but himself.
I don't doubt Mengele's only inhibition to sleeping well was the eventual fear of being caught, well after the fact.
Both could always claim their crimes against humanity were performed in the name of science, and for some sick souls, that trumps morality. And yes, there are plenty who are demented enough to believe using that for political purposes was somehow justifiable, despite the damage done to scientific credibility in doing so.
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I could tell that from the first press conference, when Fauci was snickering and making faces behind Trump's back while he was speaking. Why Trump didn't can that little troll right then I will never understand.
Pence, who was technically in charge of the task force, protected him --- several times.
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https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1396697081398456320?s=21
Trump also got mocked for speaking about the likelihood of a lab leak.
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Trump also got mocked for speaking about the likelihood of a lab leak.
Indeed he did. Here's just one example of many:
https://twitter.com/raheemkassam/status/1396659102718349314?s=21