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Title: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: corbe on April 27, 2023, 08:30:13 pm
Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates

Story by PC World • 58m ago


Windows 10 might not be dead, but it’s nearing the end of the road.

Microsoft said Thursday that the company doesn’t plan on releasing any additional feature updates to Windows 10. “The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases though that date,” Microsoft’s Jason Leznek said in a blog post describing the latest Windows client roadmap update.

Microsoft has also updated the lifecycle page for Windows 10 Home and Pro to reflect the changes.

“Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025,” the page reads. “The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date. Existing [business] releases will continue to receive updates beyond that date based on their specific lifecycles.”

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Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: bigheadfred on April 27, 2023, 08:43:13 pm
What a relief @corbe. When Biden wins, by 2025, we will all be dead anyway.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Kamaji on April 27, 2023, 09:26:58 pm
So, MS will stop effing up Windows 10 and introducing new zero-day exploits.  Good.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: roamer_1 on April 27, 2023, 09:55:12 pm
So, MS will stop effing up Windows 10 and introducing new zero-day exploits.  Good.

That's right...  :beer:

Though this time I am in such a position that my threat to flip my shop Linux just might be more threat than wish...  I don't know if I will ever get on the Win11 train.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Elderberry on May 01, 2023, 11:41:18 pm
Dang it! I knew I should of stuck with Windows 3.1.1.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: mountaineer on May 01, 2023, 11:45:51 pm
Still using Windows 7, or some such thing here.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 02, 2023, 07:16:54 am
I have a half dozen XP machines around, all in working order...I just wish I could get them to go as fast as my Win 10 one...
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Kamaji on May 02, 2023, 10:17:00 am
I have a half dozen XP machines around, all in working order...I just wish I could get them to go as fast as my Win 10 one...

Easy:  convert them to Linux!
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: catfish1957 on May 02, 2023, 10:22:29 am
Really need change their moniker from Win to Lose. 

Haven't seen anything of substance since 95.  Just a continuous comedy of errors.  Never thought I would be an Apple convert, but Gate's products suck.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 02, 2023, 06:02:35 pm
Easy:  convert them to Linux!

That ain't as true as it used to be... Speaking of active variations...

It's kinda been a thing for me, trying to resurrect some of the cool notebook stuff from even the early Win7 era - Finding a dist small enough to run fast on them is a bit of a fool's errand.

Now, I am speaking of something prepared and maintained... and actually functional - Not Damn Small or any other dist that is basically bare... I can start there and roll my own, I know.... But I don't care enough to do all that.

A current, tight, lightweight Linux is a bit of a unicorn.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 02, 2023, 06:06:34 pm
Really need change their moniker from Win to Lose. 

Haven't seen anything of substance since 95.  Just a continuous comedy of errors.  Never thought I would be an Apple convert, but Gate's products suck.

AUUUGH. Apple is no better. Linux is better than both. But the learning curve is pretty substantial, depending on what you want to do with it.

If all it is is an internet machine, throw Mint or Ubuntu on it, and away you go, pretty much. Especially if you are already using Firefox and Thunderbird.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 02, 2023, 06:43:02 pm
Easy:  convert them to Linux!

My experience with desktop linux is pretty negative, with the exception of Ubuntu. Everytime people are like "X is the year of linux desktop" I'm usually pretty disappointed. I don't know, maybe this time.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 02, 2023, 06:50:03 pm
My experience with desktop linux is pretty negative, with the exception of Ubuntu. Everytime people are like "X is the year of linux desktop" I'm usually pretty disappointed. I don't know, maybe this time.

All I could add to that is Ubuntu/Mint. Mint being a derivative, I believe, and a very successful out-of-the-box experience. I would lean Mint between the two, except in media... For my TV's Ubuntu would have a small advantage... But Mint, pretty much everywhere else.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 02, 2023, 06:53:22 pm
All I could add to that is Ubuntu/Mint. Mint being a derivative, I believe, and a very successful out-of-the-box experience. I would lean Mint between the two, except in media... For my TV's Ubuntu would have a small advantage... But Mint, pretty much everywhere else.

I used Mint based on recommendations, back in 2013 or so, my experience was not good. Maybe it's changed since then.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 02, 2023, 06:57:23 pm
I used Mint based on recommendations, back in 2013 or so, my experience was not good. Maybe it's changed since then.

I find them pretty much interchangeable, with Mint being leaned more toward business use.

But, YMMV.  :beer:
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Kamaji on May 03, 2023, 01:36:27 am
I used Mint based on recommendations, back in 2013 or so, my experience was not good. Maybe it's changed since then.

I’m certain it’s changed since then. I’ve been running Mint on an old pentium system I have, and it’s been pretty rock solid. 
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 03, 2023, 02:04:31 am
I’m certain it’s changed since then. I’ve been running Mint on an old pentium system I have, and it’s been pretty rock solid.

No it was solid, but it had annoying bugs, like not being able to use sleep reliably, it would disconnect from my bluetooth audio etc.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Kamaji on May 03, 2023, 02:34:33 am
No it was solid, but it had annoying bugs, like not being able to use sleep reliably, it would disconnect from my bluetooth audio etc.

I haven’t had any of those problems with the version I’m running, although I don’t use the sleep option, so I can’t say about that.  Some of those bugs would be in the firmware that remains on the system even after the OS was swapped out.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 03, 2023, 02:50:07 am
I haven’t had any of those problems with the version I’m running, although I don’t use the sleep option, so I can’t say about that.  Some of those bugs would be in the firmware that remains on the system even after the OS was swapped out.

Yes, it still is machine oriented, and the more oddball the hardware, the less likely you will get a clean install without having to mess hard with /config...

Best option IMHO... HP commercial boxes almost always work with 'nix. Likely Dell commercial too. Because most of the gear is tried and true and not off the wall...
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Sighlass on May 03, 2023, 03:15:05 am
Lol, I only recently got my Win's 10 and have it tuned to the way I can navigate it with somewhat ease. It never seems to crash which even my old XP would on occasion. Now I am gonna be a dinosaur again I guess, if I live to then.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: DB on May 03, 2023, 03:46:05 am
Windows 7 has some serious security issues on the Internet that have not been patched. It is highly recommended NOT to use Windows 7 online for browsing or Email.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Kamaji on May 04, 2023, 12:19:30 pm
No it was solid, but it had annoying bugs, like not being able to use sleep reliably, it would disconnect from my bluetooth audio etc.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

I have a 7 y.o. Lenovo "yoga" laptop running an old pentium with Mint on it, and sleep does appear to work on it.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 04, 2023, 01:37:03 pm
@Weird Tolkienish Figure

I have a 7 y.o. Lenovo "yoga" laptop running an old pentium with Mint on it, and sleep does appear to work on it.

It was an old Lenovo "work" laptop actually. Not sure what the issue was. It was the classic X in the middle of the screen X windows error after waking up.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 04, 2023, 03:45:53 pm
@Weird Tolkienish Figure

I have a 7 y.o. Lenovo "yoga" laptop running an old pentium with Mint on it, and sleep does appear to work on it.

I LOVED my Yoga 11e!! I want that back! Alas though, I think that small form factor 'notebook' has run it's course, though it is where I fit best in a portable.
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Kamaji on May 04, 2023, 03:53:06 pm
I LOVED my Yoga 11e!! I want that back! Alas though, I think that small form factor 'notebook' has run it's course, though it is where I fit best in a portable.

This one is the Ideapad Flex-4:  https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-flex-series/ideapad-flex-4-(11-inch)/88ip8fx0737?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F&sortBy=bestSelling
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 04, 2023, 03:58:38 pm
I LOVED my Yoga 11e!! I want that back! Alas though, I think that small form factor 'notebook' has run it's course, though it is where I fit best in a portable.

My work still orders the smaller form laptops. My gaming laptop is big and beefy and heavy. I too love the smaller laptops, i guess they figured that market was taken by tablets?
Title: Re: Windows 10 won’t receive any more feature updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 04, 2023, 04:30:37 pm
This one is the Ideapad Flex-4:  https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-flex-series/ideapad-flex-4-(11-inch)/88ip8fx0737?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F&sortBy=bestSelling

Thanks for that! I will try to find one.  :beer: