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General Category => National/Breaking News => Second Amendment => Topic started by: christian on January 30, 2021, 06:10:19 am

Title: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: christian on January 30, 2021, 06:10:19 am
More fiat executive decrees from the democrat god-tyrant, who doesn't know what he was signing, so you have no one to blame or hold accountable.  Clever, eh ?  Like Hitler demanded and got, first all guns must be registered, then he went and confiscated them.  The democrats intend to put such strict restrictions and high taxes on owning guns that it will eradicate gun ownership, as we know it,in America.
Did you know elections have consequences?  Fools are confident they don't and are easily persuaded they don't.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: bigheadfred on January 30, 2021, 06:15:13 am
More fiat executive decrees from the democrat god-tyrant, who doesn't know what he was signing, so you have no one to blame or hold accountable.  Clever, eh ?  Like Hitler demanded and got, first all guns must be registered, then he went and confiscated them.  The democrats intend to put such strict restrictions and high taxes on owning guns that it will eradicate gun ownership, as we know it,in America.
Did you know elections have consequences?  Fools are confident they don't and are easily persuaded they don't.

Link that, please?
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Elderberry on January 30, 2021, 12:21:16 pm
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuqYnRCeOyY#)
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Elderberry on January 30, 2021, 12:25:42 pm
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127/text (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127/text)

H. R. 127

To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 4, 2021

Ms. Jackson Lee introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILL

To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.

This Act may be cited as the “Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act”.

SEC. 2. Licensing of firearm and ammunition possession; registration of firearms.

(a) Firearm licensing and registration system.—

(1) IN GENERAL.—Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

Ҥ 932. Licensing of firearm and ammunition possession; registration of firearms

“(a) In general.—The Attorney General, through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, shall establish a system for licensing the possession of firearms or ammunition in the United States, and for the registration with the Bureau of each firearm present in the United States.

“(b) Firearm registration system.—

“(1) REQUIRED INFORMATION.—Under the firearm registration system, the owner of a firearm shall transmit to the Bureau—

“(A) the make, model, and serial number of the firearm, the identity of the owner of the firearm, the date the firearm was acquired by the owner, and where the firearm is or will be stored; and

“(B) a notice specifying the identity of any person to whom, and any period of time during which, the firearm will be loaned to the person.

“(2) DEADLINE FOR SUPPLYING INFORMATION.—The transmission required by paragraph (1) shall be made—

“(A) in the case of a firearm acquired before the effective date of this section, within 3 months after the effective date of this section; or

“(B) in the case of a firearm acquired on or after the effective date, on the date the owner acquires the firearm.

“(3) DATABASE.—

“(A) IN GENERAL.—The Attorney General shall establish and maintain a database of all firearms registered pursuant to this subsection.

“(B) ACCESS.—The Attorney General shall make the contents of the database accessible to all members of the public, all Federal, State, and local law enforcement authorities, all branches of the United States Armed Forces, and all State and local governments, as defined by the Bureau.

“(c) Licensing system.—

“(1) REQUIREMENTS.—

“(A) GENERAL LICENSE.—Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, the Attorney General shall issue to an individual a license to possess a firearm and ammunition if the individual—

“(i) has attained 21 years of age;

“(ii) after applying for the license—

“(I) undergoes a criminal background check conducted by the national instant criminal background check system established under section 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, and the check does not indicate that possession of a firearm by the individual would violate subsection (g) or (n) of section 922 or State law;

“(II) undergoes a psychological evaluation conducted in accordance with paragraph (2), and the evaluation does not indicate that the individual is psychologically unsuited to possess a firearm; and

“(III) successfully completes a training course, certified by the Attorney General, in the use, safety, and storage of firearms, that includes at least 24 hours of training; and

“(iii) demonstrates that, on issuance of the license, the individual will have in effect an insurance policy issued under subsection (d).
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Elderberry on January 30, 2021, 12:52:16 pm
Pro Gun Group Says H.R. 127 Gun Control Bill Is ‘Insanity on Steroids’

Ammoland by Alan Gottlieb 1/29/2021

https://www.ammoland.com/2021/01/ccrkba-says-h-r-127-gun-control-bill-is-insanity-on-steroids/ (https://www.ammoland.com/2021/01/ccrkba-says-h-r-127-gun-control-bill-is-insanity-on-steroids/)

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Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee’s H.R. 127, a gun control measure requiring gun owner licensing, psychological evaluations, retroactive gun registration, and separate licensing for modern sporting rifles is “insanity on steroids,” the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said today.

    “Over the years,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb, “we’ve seen some astonishingly bad legislation originate on Capitol Hill, but this one takes the term ‘abomination’ to an entirely new level. One look at this bill and you wonder whether Congresswoman Jackson Lee ever heard of the Bill of Rights, which includes the Second Amendment.”   â€œH.R. 127 is a constitutionally-challenged monstrosity,” Gottlieb stated. “It ignores the fact that the Second Amendment protects a fundamental right to keep and bear arms, not some strictly-regulated government privilege. Government cannot require a psychological evaluation to exercise a right enumerated in the Constitution.

    “Is it possible Sheila Jackson Lee skipped high school civics,” he wondered. “This legislation treats firearms owners like second-class citizens for exercising their Second Amendment rights. It’s an outrage that a member of Congress could even conceive of such a measure, much less propose that it become law.

    “Instead of subjecting gun owners to such Draconian requirements,” Gottlieb observed, “maybe it’s time to require psychological evaluations of each member of Congress.”

Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Elderberry on January 30, 2021, 01:11:04 pm
Is Usurper Biden Coming after our Firearms?

The Post & Email by Bob Russell 1/29/2021

https://www.thepostemail.com/2021/01/29/is-usurper-biden-coming-after-our-firearms/ (https://www.thepostemail.com/2021/01/29/is-usurper-biden-coming-after-our-firearms/)

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The very corrupt and mentally-deficient joe biden is still harping about confiscating privately- owned “assault weapons.” Rabid anti-gun nutcase beto o’rourke appears to be the tyrant biden will put in charge of this violation of the Constitution.  In the first place, AR-15 or AK-47-style semi-automatic rifles ARE NOT “assault weapons” nor “weapons of war.”  Leftists like joe dementia equate semi-automatic firearms with full-automatic weapons based merely on what they look like, a tactic that works on people who are ignorant and gullible.  I actually own some Ruger 10/22 rifles, semi-automatic .22 caliber rifles that the left describes as “assault weapons” because they have “angel fire” stocks that make them look like AR-15 rifles.  According to the communist left these small game and target rifles that I use to teach my grandchildren to safely and properly handle and shoot guns, and to hunt rabbits and squirrels, are now “very dangerous assault weapons of war.”

My biggest question in all of this nonsense is, “Who is going to come confiscate my guns and are they as willing to die to take them as I am to keep them?”  People ignorant enough to vote for devildemocommiecrats are too ignorant to understand that it is people like me who protect them from the communist dictators they vote for.  Anyone who knows history, and low-information devildemocommiecrat voters don’t, knows that dictators eventually get around to persecuting and/or killing even their most ardent supporters.  Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Mao did it, Castro did it.

Hitler’s SA, the Brown Shirt thugs, were murdered once they had gotten him into power because they were no longer needed and were a threat because he knew how easily they could be swayed and he didn’t want them running loose when not needed any more.  Stalin, Mao, and Castro also persecuted those who helped power them into control.  In the case of Castro, his main fighter, Che Guevara, had to flee to South America to escape a death sentence put on him after the revolution that overthrew former dictator Batista in favor of the even more brutal Castro.  Guevara was eventually reported to have been killed by the Bolivian army led by a US Army Special Forces A team.  The reports in the media gave the credit to Bolivian Army troops but I have it on good authority (based on an American involved) that he was actually killed by US Special Forces soldiers moving ahead of the Bolivian Army battalion they were training and advising.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: skeeter on January 30, 2021, 02:41:30 pm
What did any of us expect? The man will say anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPig-AllQe8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPig-AllQe8#)
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Lando Lincoln on January 30, 2021, 03:05:51 pm
This is the one we all have been terrified of.  Many will not comply.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Bigun on January 30, 2021, 03:12:07 pm
This is the one we all have been terrified of.  Many will not comply.

As the old saying goes, "When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns!"  And I will be an outlaw.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: skeeter on January 30, 2021, 03:16:44 pm
This is the one we all have been terrified of.  Many will not comply.

Compliance is impossible. Thats the objective.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Lando Lincoln on January 30, 2021, 03:23:44 pm
Compliance is impossible. Thats the objective.

Good point.  And, correct. 

Each day, each of us are in violation of laws we are unaware of - until that "knock" on the door.  We are rapidly accelerating towards that day.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: libertybele on January 31, 2021, 12:34:18 am
Good point.  And, correct. 

Each day, each of us are in violation of laws we are unaware of - until that "knock" on the door.  We are rapidly accelerating towards that day.

Yes, this is the one that we all feared ....hopefully somehow it won't pass. 

I keep praying for some positive news and action to stop this assault on our rights.  This is the one amendment and right that we absolutely MUST hang on to.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: skeeter on January 31, 2021, 12:40:33 am
Yes, this is the one that we all feared ....hopefully somehow it won't pass. 

I keep praying for some positive news and action to stop this assault on our rights.  This is the one amendment and right that we absolutely MUST hang on to.

My initial response is 'good, then we'll finally settle this thing in SCOTUS'. The 2nd Amendment, clear as day.

Then I remember the rats are going to 'reform' SCOTUS.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: libertybele on January 31, 2021, 12:56:07 am
My initial response is 'good, then we'll finally settle this thing in SCOTUS'. The 2nd Amendment, clear as day.

Then I remember the rats are going to 'reform' SCOTUS.

You're forgetting that our supposedly new and improved conservative SCOTUS looked the other way and allowed the DEMS to steal the election.

The only way is if some of the DEMS in the House vote against it and some how miraculously it doesn't pass or it doesn't pass the Senate. 

This is so dangerous to ALL of our rights!!
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: skeeter on January 31, 2021, 01:09:39 am
You're forgetting that our supposedly new and improved conservative SCOTUS looked the other way and allowed the DEMS to steal the election.

The only way is if some of the DEMS in the House vote against it and some how miraculously it doesn't pass or it doesn't pass the Senate. 

This is so dangerous to ALL of our rights!!
I haven't forgotten anything. With the rat's packing scheme we go from having a good chance of a constitutionally sound decision to no chance at all.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: libertybele on January 31, 2021, 01:14:35 am
I haven't forgotten anything. With the rat's packing scheme we go from having a good chance of a constitutionally sound decision to no chance at all.

Even without their packing scheme, our current SCOTUS with 3 new conservatives (?) is worthless.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: txradioguy on February 03, 2021, 01:23:49 am
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127/text (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/127/text)

H. R. 127

To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 4, 2021

Ms. Jackson Lee introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILL

To provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms, and to prohibit the possession of certain ammunition.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.

This Act may be cited as the “Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act”.

SEC. 2. Licensing of firearm and ammunition possession; registration of firearms.

(a) Firearm licensing and registration system.—

(1) IN GENERAL.—Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

Ҥ 932. Licensing of firearm and ammunition possession; registration of firearms

“(a) In general.—The Attorney General, through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, shall establish a system for licensing the possession of firearms or ammunition in the United States, and for the registration with the Bureau of each firearm present in the United States.

“(b) Firearm registration system.—

“(1) REQUIRED INFORMATION.—Under the firearm registration system, the owner of a firearm shall transmit to the Bureau—

“(A) the make, model, and serial number of the firearm, the identity of the owner of the firearm, the date the firearm was acquired by the owner, and where the firearm is or will be stored; and

“(B) a notice specifying the identity of any person to whom, and any period of time during which, the firearm will be loaned to the person.

“(2) DEADLINE FOR SUPPLYING INFORMATION.—The transmission required by paragraph (1) shall be made—

“(A) in the case of a firearm acquired before the effective date of this section, within 3 months after the effective date of this section; or

“(B) in the case of a firearm acquired on or after the effective date, on the date the owner acquires the firearm.

“(3) DATABASE.—

“(A) IN GENERAL.—The Attorney General shall establish and maintain a database of all firearms registered pursuant to this subsection.

“(B) ACCESS.—The Attorney General shall make the contents of the database accessible to all members of the public, all Federal, State, and local law enforcement authorities, all branches of the United States Armed Forces, and all State and local governments, as defined by the Bureau.

“(c) Licensing system.—

“(1) REQUIREMENTS.—

“(A) GENERAL LICENSE.—Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, the Attorney General shall issue to an individual a license to possess a firearm and ammunition if the individual—

“(i) has attained 21 years of age;

“(ii) after applying for the license—

“(I) undergoes a criminal background check conducted by the national instant criminal background check system established under section 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, and the check does not indicate that possession of a firearm by the individual would violate subsection (g) or (n) of section 922 or State law;

“(II) undergoes a psychological evaluation conducted in accordance with paragraph (2), and the evaluation does not indicate that the individual is psychologically unsuited to possess a firearm; and

“(III) successfully completes a training course, certified by the Attorney General, in the use, safety, and storage of firearms, that includes at least 24 hours of training; and

“(iii) demonstrates that, on issuance of the license, the individual will have in effect an insurance policy issued under subsection (d).

This is Jazzy's gun control wet dream writ large.
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Post by: Wingnut on February 04, 2021, 04:05:27 pm
They should pass bill that would force all members of congress to go through 'psychological evaluations' along with family members.


by Joseph Simonson, Political Reporter |   | February 03, 2021 01:49 PM


Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee introduced a bill earlier this month that would enact some of the strictest gun regulations in the history of the country and give the federal government sweeping power to decide who can own a firearm.

The Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act, named after a Pakistani exchange student who was murdered in Texas in 2018, would "provide for the licensing of firearm and ammunition possession and the registration of firearms" and "prohibit the possession of certain ammunition."

Specifically, the bill would dramatically expand the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the Justice Department's ability to surveil legal gun owners, forcing them to submit information about "the make, model, and serial number of the firearm, the identity of the owner of the firearm, the date the firearm was acquired by the owner, and where the firearm is or will be stored."

Gun owners would have three months to comply with the new federal orders for a new database that would be "accessible to all members of the public."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/dem-bill-gun-control-psychological-evaluations-registry?fbclid=IwAR14e6MQGTR3UXxUg9YeCHT_g39VUD_plbxHC178xHXhPhJJmehsaW-YnDY (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/dem-bill-gun-control-psychological-evaluations-registry?fbclid=IwAR14e6MQGTR3UXxUg9YeCHT_g39VUD_plbxHC178xHXhPhJJmehsaW-YnDY)
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: andy58-in-nh on February 04, 2021, 04:11:08 pm
Unconstitutional, unenforceable, and Hell, No.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Bigun on February 04, 2021, 04:14:42 pm
Unconstitutional, unenforceable, and Hell, No.

 :yowsa: Not only no but HELL NO!!!
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Wingnut on February 04, 2021, 04:20:11 pm
They just don't get the pesky "Shall NOT be Infringed upon" part of the amendment.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 04, 2021, 04:26:55 pm
Topics about HR 127 merged in Second Amendment Category.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Bigun on February 04, 2021, 04:29:01 pm
They just don't get the pesky "Shall NOT be Infringed upon" part of the amendment.

They just don't get the Constitution period!
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: GtHawk on February 04, 2021, 05:29:51 pm
Unconstitutional, unenforceable, and Hell, No.
You, and I, say Hell NO while the left no longer hides their Sieg Heil! (Hail Victory) And they are taking all the same actions as the fascists in the past, have a strong arm force, control speech, disarm the public and their real wet dream imprison those who dare to speak out against the Reich (Realm).

I included the translations so those who might not know them don't jump to the conclusion that I am calling the left Nazis, I'm not. :silly: I am quite simply calling them what they are FASCISTS and remarking on similarities to another failed fascist movement. The American people, at this point are not like the Germans angry over penalties from WWI which made the economic collapse even worse for them so that they grabbed at the promise of the socialists. There are not enough Americans that will buy that bullshit and not more than a handful that will give up their guns.

I fear the day when the left decides to martyr a few 'leaders' on their side to push public opinion in the direction they want on gun confiscation. If killing school children wasn't enough in the past maybe they, the hardcore extremists, might think some useless old senile 'person' being targeted would be the push they need.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: txradioguy on February 04, 2021, 10:47:52 pm
They just don't get the Constitution period!

After all this time I'm convinced that thy don't care.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Elderberry on February 07, 2021, 02:29:12 am
Joe Biden’s Plan to Repeal the Second Amendment

The Libertarian Institute by Matt Agorist | Feb 6, 2021

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/joe-bidens-plan-to-repeal-the-second-amendment/ (https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/joe-bidens-plan-to-repeal-the-second-amendment/)

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HR127, known as the Sabika Sheikh Firearm Licensing and Registration Act introduced by Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18], is, without a doubt, the most tyrannical gun control bill ever proposed. Like all gun control measures, this bill would hit the poor and minority communities the hardest. Its massive scope would also turn tens of millions of legal, law abiding gun owners into felons overnight.

As TFTP reported in December, before Joe Biden took office, his administration has major plans for eviscerating the Second Amendment. Biden has been an outspoken gun grabber and on his campaign website, he’s stated that he will use executive action to enforce gun control.

On the site, Biden states that he will use executive action to “get weapons of war off our streets.” Calling an AR-style weapon a “weapon of war” is laughable given the fact that Biden, under president Obama, aided in the wholesale slaughter of countless innocent civilians in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, and Somalia—using actual “weapons of war” like drone strikes, hellfire missiles, and sanctions.

Nevertheless, the new boss—who is the same as the old boss, contrary to what many believe—is presiding over a Congress that will consider the most tyrannical gun control measures in the history of America, HR127.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: txradioguy on February 07, 2021, 02:33:37 am
No way in hell this bill makes it out of committee.
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Post by: mystery-ak on February 07, 2021, 03:26:10 pm
Dem Rep. Jackson-Lee Pushes Gun Registry And Psych Evaluations for Owners

by Jonathan Davis

It’s almost comical to watch liberals online deny claims made by conservatives that Democrats are coming for the Second Amendment and America’s tens of millions of gun owners.

Almost.

It would be laughable if it weren’t true, as Democrats continually prove every single time they have power.

The latest to put the lie to leftists who say Dems support unfettered Second Amendment rights is long-serving Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas, no less.

***Help Us Take Down The Liberal Media With Our FREE News App!***

She is introducing legislation that would create a national gun registry (that will later be used to confiscate guns — otherwise, what business does the federal government have knowing how many guns Americans own and of what type?), and force every gun owner to undergo a psychological evaluation (which will be used to then deny gun rights on trumped-up charges of political ‘wrongthink’ — we’re already seeing that).

more
https://trendingpolitics.com/dem-rep-jackson-lee-pushes-gun-registry-and-psych-evaluations-for-owners/
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Elderberry on February 12, 2021, 01:36:58 pm
H.R. 127 – A Bill Designed to Express Hostility Toward Law-Abiding Gun Owners

NRA-ILA 2/11/2021

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20210211/hr-127-a-bill-designed-to-express-hostility-toward-law-abiding-gun-owners (https://www.nraila.org/articles/20210211/hr-127-a-bill-designed-to-express-hostility-toward-law-abiding-gun-owners)

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All gun control bills share the same basic goal: a world in which fewer people own firearms. Some bills simply ban certain types of firearms or ammunition outright. Others place obstacles in the path of owning firearms or ammunition to make them more difficult and expensive to obtain, thereby shrinking the market for them. The fundamental flaw of these approaches is that they treat all law-abiding firearm owners as would-be criminals, when the reality is that most firearm-related assaults and homicides are committed by people who completely disregard the law, including laws against taking human life. 

H.R. 127 combines both failed approaches. It bans common types of ammunition and original equipment magazines for most self-defense firearms. And, it makes all firearms more difficult to obtain and possess through a punitive licensing and registration scheme. In its details, however, H.R. 127 is so outrageous, persecutory, and unworkable that its main function is simply to display the hostility of its author and supporters toward firearms, those who own them, and those who want to own them.

•   H.R. 127 would ban common types of ammunition, including every shotgun shell larger than .410.

o   The bill states: “It shall be unlawful for any person to possess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater.”

o   Violations of this ban would result in the imposition of a fine of at least $50,000 and imprisonment of at least 10 years, mandatory penalties not seen in many violent or infamous federal crimes, including torturing someone to death outside the U.S. or committing treason during wartime.

Hunting whitetail deer would be legally impossible in at least 10 U.S. states if these restrictions went into effect.

o   The bill would also make it impossible for Americans to follow President Biden’s advice to keep a double-barreled, 12 gauge shotgun for self-defense, rather than an AR-15.

Innumerable numbers of shotgun shells currently possessed by law-abiding people for lawful purposes would suddenly become contraband.

•   H.R. 127 would force Americans to relinquish hundreds of millions firearm magazines with no compensation.

o   The bill states: “It shall be unlawful for any person to possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device”, and defines such devices to include those “that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition,” excluding certain integral .22 rimfire magazines.

o    Industry production figures show that there are hundreds of millions of 11+ round magazines.

o   As with its ban on shotgun shells, H.R.127’s magazine ban would apply retroactively, affecting items already owned by millions of Americans for lawful purposes, with no compensation for owners forced to relinquish property that was lawful when obtained.

•   H.R. 127 would require the federal government to register some 400 million guns in the span of only 3 months.

o   The bill states that registration information would have to be provided to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive, “in the case of a firearm acquired before the effective date of this section, within 3 months after the effective date of this section.”

o   But BATFE would also have to create the registration system during those 3 months.

More at link.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: andy58-in-nh on February 12, 2021, 02:00:34 pm
Politicians Prefer Disarmed Peasants.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: skeeter on February 12, 2021, 02:04:16 pm
Politicians Prefer Disarmed Peasants.

After filling DC with the Guard and throwing up a fence around congress as one of the first things the new congress did what did anyone expect?
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: GrouchoTex on February 12, 2021, 06:33:30 pm
Can't we just ban SheJack and her Oysterpersons?
Let her go plant a flag on Mars.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Freedom2020 on February 14, 2021, 09:18:45 pm
Germany, in the period immediately before the Nazis came on, restricted citizens from the possession of weapons  and only the government had combat guns. 

The key to understanding what is happening in America today is to realize  that socialist leaders are, for the most part, groups of psychopathic individuals  acting cooperatively.

There is a difference in the brain functioning of socialist leaders (psychopaths) compared to the brains of ordinary people. So while normal people work and raise their families, the pack of sociopaths hunt down individuals and now, the whole society.  As they did in Cuba, China, Venezuela...

I made a text explaining this difference in historical and scientific terms, based on the work of the Polish physician Andrew Lobaczweski. His findings are revealing and explain exactly what we are facing now.

It is not necessary for people to suffer in order to wake up, if they can be made aware of what they are fighting against. Please read the text and share it. We need everyone to understand the evil that lurks in front of us.  The more people understand this, the easier it will be for people to act locally to save America.


Link -->  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,424671.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,424671.0.html)  <-- "Analysis - Psychopaths Seeking Power. The World today - 2021"

Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: sneakypete on February 14, 2021, 10:49:48 pm
They just don't get the Constitution period!

@Bigun

Oh,they understand it alright,they just don't like the thought of "all those people out there running around free to make their own decisions."
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: sneakypete on February 14, 2021, 10:51:09 pm
Politicians Prefer Disarmed Peasants.

@andy58-in-nh

BINGO!
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 15, 2021, 07:17:54 am
This is the one we all have been terrified of.  Many will not comply.
None should. Clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.  Void.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: mountaineer on February 17, 2021, 10:58:16 pm
Democratic bill would create public registry of gun owners, their guns, and where they keep them
Critics are calling it 'dangerous'
Phil Shiver
February 17, 2021
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A Democratic bill introduced in the House of Representatives this year aims to create a mandatory and publicly accessible registry listing the names of gun owners, how many guns they have, and even where they keep their firearms.

Additionally, the bill, H.R. 127, would ban several types of commonly used ammunition .50 caliber or greater, require gun owners to purchase firearm insurance costing $800 per year, and force those seeking to buy a gun to complete a psychological evaluation and a government training course prior to the purchase.

Should gun owners fail to adhere to the new restrictions, they could face an harsh penalty of 10 years in prison and fines of $50,000 to $150,000. ...
The Blaze (https://www.theblaze.com/news/democratic-bill-public-gun-registry?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: sneakypete on February 18, 2021, 01:13:03 am
Democratic bill would create public registry of gun owners, their guns, and where they keep them
Critics are calling it 'dangerous'
Phil Shiver
February 17, 2021The Blaze (https://www.theblaze.com/news/democratic-bill-public-gun-registry?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

@mountaineer

Maybe it is just me,but I sense a disturbance in the Force,Obi-wan. Things will be shifting. "Tribes" will be gathering. Bad words will be spoken.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 18, 2021, 07:10:14 am
Democratic bill would create public registry of gun owners, their guns, and where they keep them
Critics are calling it 'dangerous'
Phil Shiver
February 17, 2021The Blaze (https://www.theblaze.com/news/democratic-bill-public-gun-registry?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
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Massive noncompliance.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: sneakypete on February 18, 2021, 02:16:37 pm
VOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOID (Get the idea?)

Massive noncompliance.

@Smokin Joe

Not only do the gun grabbers not care,most hope there will be non-compliance so they can claim this just proves gun owners are criminals that want to overthrow the government. With Biden as the acting President and the media behind them,they will be able to spin it in the news and gain a lot of support from the massive amount of city dwellers in this country who don't own,have never owned,and mostly don't even know anybody who DOES own a gun.

Don't forget. This really has nothing to do with gun control. It's about population control,and it is a fight we MUST NOT let them win.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: thackney on February 18, 2021, 02:27:30 pm
VOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOIDVOID (Get the idea?)

Massive noncompliance.

I suspect that may be the real goal of liberals. 

Massive non-compliance -> massive felonies of mostly conservatives -> massive reduction of republican voters
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: libertybele on February 18, 2021, 02:39:03 pm
After filling DC with the Guard and throwing up a fence around congress as one of the first things the new congress did what did anyone expect?

Exactly.  The DEMS stole the election, planned the insurrection and then used it as an excuse to build a barrier around the WH armed with guards.

Soros, Gates, and other global marxists want to disarm us to control us (obviously). They also still have the whole COVID virus as an excuse to start rounding up people (conservatives) quietly at random to quarantine them and 'house' them.

I'm hoping that the bills fails ... but the House has acquired some complete whaccko's like AOC and Ohmar and I'm afraid that it's going to pass.  If it passes the House, there is no wall of GOP Senators to stop it.  Expect the RINO's to vote along with the DEMS. We have GOP Senators like Rick Scott who sold FL down the river on the 2A while he was governor; so I think we'll so more GOP Senators voting for it, rather than against it.

God help us.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2021, 04:15:31 am
I suspect that may be the real goal of liberals. 

Massive non-compliance -> massive felonies of mostly conservatives -> massive reduction of republican voters
Multiple States are considering laws which prohibit the enforcement of executive orders or even laws which conflict with the State Constitutions. The last time the Federal Government occupied States (with troops and forced them to change their Constitutions) was after the War of Northern Aggression.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: sneakypete on February 19, 2021, 04:42:02 am
Multiple States are considering laws which prohibit the enforcement of executive orders or even laws which conflict with the State Constitutions. The last time the Federal Government occupied States (with troops and forced them to change their Constitutions) was after the War of Northern Aggression.

@Smokin Joe
tht
You are speaking,of course,of the FIRST "War of Northern Aggression". Part 2 is going to be something special.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2021, 05:00:24 am
@Smokin Joe
tht
You are speaking,of course,of the FIRST "War of Northern Aggression". Part 2 is going to be something special.
Yep, and I fully believe we are in the opening phases now.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: sneakypete on February 19, 2021, 08:50:16 am
Yep, and I fully believe we are in the opening phases now.


@Smokin Joe

As do I.

My fondest hope is that in addition to all the regular citizens that end up killed or crippled for life because of this that more than a few of the "privileged people" get THEIR clocks wound,too.
Title: Re: HR 127 real guncontrol will TEETH
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2021, 08:53:05 am

@Smokin Joe

As do I.

My fondest hope is that in addition to all the regular citizens that end up killed or crippled for life because of this that more than a few of the "privileged people" get THEIR clocks wound,too.
May Almighty God reward them as they so richly deserve...