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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: 240B on March 06, 2024, 08:55:32 pm
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Paul Starobin
9h ago
Late last year, my wife and I closed on a deal for an apartment in a hilltop town in Umbria. Soon after, I posted a question for my fellow participants in a Facebook group called Expats in Italy: "Is it just my imagination, but is there an uptick in Americans, in particular, looking to purchase property in Italy?" As the responses poured in, many of them sounded a distinct thematic note.
From a woman in Montana who was planning to move to Tuscany: "Yes, it's true! I bought a hilltop village home … for a song compared to US prices. Don't want to be in US anymore. It's expensive and sick of all the political crap and shootings."
From a woman in Texas: "An insurrection by a narcissist who couldn't accept election loss combined with his gun and abortion policies made moving more of a necessity than just a dream."
From a man in Tennessee: "I'm an American ready to flee America for Italy. I doubt I'm alone."
Not alone, indeed. Granted, my unscientific survey was limited to a self-selected group of people with a declared fancy for one particular foreign country renowned for its artistic and cultural treasures, scrumptious cuisine, and exquisite landscapes. Still, it was striking that the specter of Donald Trump — a looming shadow I hadn't even mentioned in my question — was on so many minds.
Every four years, as Americans gird themselves to choose a president, there's talk, mainly among Democrats, of leaving the country. I'm off for Canada if unacceptable candidate X wins! And every four years, the promised exodus fails to materialize. It's mostly just therapeutic venting.
This time is different.
The alarm over Trump's potential triumph in November is far starker than the fears stoked by past presidents. "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable," a recent Washington Post headline warned. The Atlantic devoted an entire issue to the authoritarian horrors in store for America "If Trump Wins."
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/if-trump-is-reelected-americans-are-planning-to-flee-in-droves/ar-BB1jpYYR?cvid=ee1ee8d41c38480addf5fa910f9a64b3&ei=29
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As long as it's democrats, Central Americans, South Americans and those moslems that have flooded across the border, it just might make a Trump second term a bit palatable.
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What makes these people believe Italy will be better?
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Having a place to flee is a liberal privilege. Conservatives have nowhere except the grave, especially if Christian.
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What makes these people believe Italy will be better?
Especially with the conservative turn it has recently taken.
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This time is different.
The alarm over Trump's potential triumph in November is far starker than the fears stoked by past presidents. "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable," a recent Washington Post headline warned. The Atlantic devoted an entire issue to the authoritarian horrors in store for America "If Trump Wins."
People are so easily manipulated.
What policies that Trump wants to implement are so radical? If anything he could be accused of being too moderate. I know his rhetoric can be over the top, but his policies are not that extreme. Immigration, he wants controlled immigration and those that are here illegally to leave. Abortion, he wants a federal ban after 15 weeks. Judges, he wants to rule on the law, not make it up. He wants the administrative state brought under control. He wants a strong defense, but reduced presence around the world. He wants trade restricted to protect American jobs.
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What policies that Trump wants to implement are so radical?.
More spending when debt to GDP ratio is already over 120%
More tariffs which triggered a trade war and threatened the economy the first time he did it. Implementing protectionist trade policies will and has ended badly
Stated he would pressure the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates in an inflationary economy which would punish savers. This guy once advocated for zero percent interest rates as president
Trump would not only kill us economically like he did his first round but fiscally as well
Trump has not explained were he’s going to get the money for his grandiose spending plans
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I cannot think of any country better than this one...with all it's flaws.
So if you think you've found some glorious nirvana, I think it's a great idea that you go. Let me know how it turned out when you come back "home".
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What makes these people believe Italy will be better?
That was my first thought too. I don't think they understand how the European tax system works.
Also, Southern Italy has been overrun and overwhelmed with a deluge of illegals from North Africa. In some cases, illegals have taken over entire Italian villages just by sheer numbers. They outnumber local Italians by more than 2 to 1 in some areas.
If I were going to do this and expat myself, I would be looking at Scandinavia. I'm not sure Italy is the best choice. I wonder if this article was produced or sponsored by some Italian real estate firm?
But anyway ... the American Left always says this and they NEVER actually do it. Like a brat little child, if I do not get what I want then I am LEAVING!! I'm going to run away from home! I will! I'll do it! Yeah sure. Like we haven't heard that before.
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I hear South Africa is very inviting to white liberals. /s
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buh bye
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But anyway ... the American Left always says this and they NEVER actually do it. Like a brat little child, if I do not get what I want then I am LEAVING!! I'm going to run away from home! I will! I'll do it! Yeah sure. Like we haven't heard that before.
Exactly
Nobody is going to say” I was going to vote Trump until I heard Cher would leave the country if I did”
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I hear South Africa is very inviting to white liberals. /s
Just tell the natives there that white liberals taste like chicken
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They all talk about it, but they never follow through. This time, please follow through. And take some celebrities with you.
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People are so easily manipulated.
YES they are. On BOTH sides.
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I thank you for making America a better place by voluntarily taking your trashy asses out of America.
I am also STRONGLY in favor of passing a bill pulling your citizenships and not letting you back into the country,because as sure as the sun coming up in the East,the people who are natives of where you move to WILL be getting tired of tolerating your useless asses,and want to boot you out of their countries..
Ya just GOTTA love it when the trash takes itself out.
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What makes these people believe Italy will be better?
@LMAO
It's not America,so it HAS to be better,right?
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What makes these people believe Italy will be better?
It won't be if they have any say in what happens there.
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