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Title: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 09, 2021, 02:24:25 PM
If you cannot get us to the moon.
Then what good are you?
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: skeeter on June 09, 2021, 02:29:52 PM
Who am I to judge - as long as your avatar isn’t Johnny Skidmark
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 09, 2021, 09:18:33 PM
No. I've worn man panties. (Also known as "low-rise briefs.") Tighty whities are a whole separate category.

How do I know this? Well, as a former longtime tighty-whitey wearer, I was noticing with my slim-cut jeans that the band of my underwear would start showing at inopportune times. So I went on Walmart and ordered a package of "low-rise briefs." A few days later, they showed up and I belatedly realized I was now the not-so-proud owner of a half-dozen pair of multicolored man panties.

It was the last pack of those I ever bought. As for what I wear now, I'll leave that to the imagination.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 09, 2021, 09:53:43 PM
Buck Naked Boxer Briefs by Duluth Trading Company. Nothing else matters and you'll never go back.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2021, 01:01:27 AM
Buck Naked Boxer Briefs by Duluth Trading Company. Nothing else matters and you'll never go back.

I have a bunch of the Armachillo briefs from Duluth.  Very comfortable, I ended up tossing out the old tighties.  Thongs are nice, too...lol  You can pack a week's worth of them in an envelope.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 10, 2021, 01:07:58 AM
I have a bunch of the Armachillo briefs from Duluth.  Very comfortable, I ended up tossing out the old tighties.  Thongs are nice, too...lol  You can pack a week's worth of them in an envelope.

No thongs for me...
Remember when your mom would cook a Sunday dinner, with a nice rolled roast? Well an epic part of that is when mom would cut that roast loose and pull the strings off... I would always get one of them, stick one end in my mouth and pass it between my teeth scraping all the delicious chunks off.

Thongs kinda ruin that image for me. Dunno why, but there it is. Never to suck on a roasted string again.

If I am packin light, I am freeballin. Then I don't need to bring the envelope.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Gefn on June 10, 2021, 04:45:18 AM
My BFF always went commando.


My dad wore boxers, and I still recall as a child, seeing my mom ironing them.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: thackney on June 10, 2021, 08:11:43 AM
Buck Naked Boxer Briefs by Duluth Trading Company. Nothing else matters and you'll never go back.

93% nylon/7% spandex knit wicking boxer briefs

That is a deal breaker for folks like me working in an facility that needs Flame Resistant Clothing and Arc-Flash rated.  I am not risking melting plastic on to that area.  100% cotton only for me.  Waist band has to be fully covered in cotton.

https://www.hanes.com/7460p6.html
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 10, 2021, 09:30:59 AM
They now come with poop stains built  in.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: skeeter on June 10, 2021, 09:36:31 AM
Thongs are nice, too...lol  You can pack a week's worth of them in an envelope.
I still have nightmares about being given wedgies in grade school. Why would anyone do that to themselves voluntarily?
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2021, 09:38:29 AM
I still have nightmares about being given wedgies in grade school. Why would anyone do that to themselves voluntarily?

 :shrug:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 10, 2021, 12:56:48 PM
Buck Naked Boxer Briefs by Duluth Trading Company. Nothing else matters and you'll never go back.

I don't like clingy underwear is the thing. I've tried alot of these tighty whitey boxer hybrids, I don't like the clinginess. I like to hang loose.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 10, 2021, 01:18:33 PM
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Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 10, 2021, 04:22:07 PM
93% nylon/7% spandex knit wicking boxer briefs

That is a deal breaker for folks like me working in an facility that needs Flame Resistant Clothing and Arc-Flash rated.  I am not risking melting plastic on to that area.  100% cotton only for me.  Waist band has to be fully covered in cotton.

https://www.hanes.com/7460p6.html

Too bad for you. They are as close to commando as it gets, a loose fit with superior wicking keeping you dry, and absolutely no binding at all. and they wear like iron.

I am entirely serious in that there is nothing else. I can go commando if I have to.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 10, 2021, 04:24:06 PM
I don't like clingy underwear is the thing. I've tried alot of these tighty whitey boxer hybrids, I don't like the clinginess. I like to hang loose.


Then Buck Naked Boxers are for you.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2021, 04:42:05 PM
I'm a big fan of the Buck Naked underwear.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 10, 2021, 05:30:11 PM
I'm a big fan of the Buck Naked underwear.

Seen those commercials and always wondered. Going to have to try them now.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 10, 2021, 05:41:24 PM
I'm a big fan of the Buck Naked underwear.

Their t-shirts over there are superior too... I am a big, big dude. Wide. Back in the day, double XLT and if I hulked out in one, I could tear the back right out of a brand new one. Your average t-shirt would last me about 3 months. I wreck em. Really I need tripleXLT

Duluth's t-shits are long by nature. You don't have to worry of a 'T' marking. They are made for Tall. Long in the tail already.

And they are thick... High-grade thick material.... And they have a gusset on the back of the neck that helps soak up sweat, but is there to reinforce the top of the back. I still tear em out in the back. The stitches of that gusset is where they finally go... But I do mean finally. Those shirts are faded all the way out, over years before they're done.

If you work for a living, you need Duluth to make your t's
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Victoria33 on June 10, 2021, 06:20:36 PM
@roamer_1
@Cyber Liberty

Two nights this week, I was warm when I went to bed.  Took off my PJs and slept naked.  Why do we wear anything in bed?  No one is going to see us and if they did, it is just a human body and everyone has one; no big deal.  Bet some/most? of you guys are naked in bed.  Good for you.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2021, 07:42:30 PM
@roamer_1
@Cyber Liberty

Two nights this week, I was warm when I went to bed.  Took off my PJs and slept naked.  Why do we wear anything in bed?  No one is going to see us and if they did, it is just a human body and everyone has one; no big deal.  Bet some/most? of you guys are naked in bed.  Good for you.

I can't speak for the other men, but I don't wear anything to bed.  Heck, I don't wear anything at all if I don't have to.  It saves on laundry, and in the summer I can sneak the thermostat up a bit for big savings!

Life Hack.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2021, 07:46:49 PM
Their t-shirts over there are superior too... I am a big, big dude. Wide. Back in the day, double XLT and if I hulked out in one, I could tear the back right out of a brand new one. Your average t-shirt would last me about 3 months. I wreck em. Really I need tripleXLT

Duluth's t-shits are long by nature. You don't have to worry of a 'T' marking. They are made for Tall. Long in the tail already.

And they are thick... High-grade thick material.... And they have a gusset on the back of the neck that helps soak up sweat, but is there to reinforce the top of the back. I still tear em out in the back. The stitches of that gusset is where they finally go... But I do mean finally. Those shirts are faded all the way out, over years before they're done.

If you work for a living, you need Duluth to make your t's

I have:

Buck Naked (and Armachillo) underwear.
I have Duluth T-Shirts.
I have Duluth No-Polo Shirts.
And I have many Firehose Pants and Shorts, too.

Big, big fan of Duluth Trading Company.  They have nice retro toys, too.  They had real metal Slinkys.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 10, 2021, 10:37:49 PM
@roamer_1
@Cyber Liberty

Two nights this week, I was warm when I went to bed.  Took off my PJs and slept naked.  Why do we wear anything in bed?  No one is going to see us and if they did, it is just a human body and everyone has one; no big deal.  Bet some/most? of you guys are naked in bed.  Good for you.

@Victoria33
Yup. buck nekkid. Heck I am buck nekkid every chance I get!

No Shirt
No Shoes
No Service

Alright. But they didn't say nothing about pants.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 10, 2021, 10:41:08 PM
I have:

Buck Naked (and Armachillo) underwear.
I have Duluth T-Shirts.
I have Duluth No-Polo Shirts.
And I have many Firehose Pants and Shorts, too.

Big, big fan of Duluth Trading Company.  They have nice retro toys, too.  They had real metal Slinkys.

Been fixin to try out their firehose pants.... Right now I am angling for overalls... I will be in them this summer, and may just stay in em... It is a bit of a truism that old farmers are always in overalls. I am beginning to understand why  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: skeeter on June 10, 2021, 10:57:39 PM
@roamer_1
@Cyber Liberty

Two nights this week, I was warm when I went to bed.  Took off my PJs and slept naked.  Why do we wear anything in bed?  No one is going to see us and if they did, it is just a human body and everyone has one; no big deal.  Bet some/most? of you guys are naked in bed.  Good for you.
Nope. Wife won’t let me.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2021, 11:19:48 PM
Been fixin to try out their firehose pants.... Right now I am angling for overalls... I will be in them this summer, and may just stay in em... It is a bit of a truism that old farmers are always in overalls. I am beginning to understand why  :laugh:

The Fire Hose pants have 11 real pockets one inside the waistband.  They're also about $70-80 a pop.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 10, 2021, 11:24:31 PM
The Fire Hose pants have 11 real pockets one inside the waistband.  They're also about $70-80 a pop.

Yeah I know... I am already used to Carhartt prices so I ain't all that set off by that price. If they are like all the rest of their stuff, they'll last twice or three times what the 40 dollar stuff will do. I get years out of their stuff, and if likewise with the pants, that would make them a bargain.

Even gimped up like I am, just putting around at farm chores, regular pants don't make more than months.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 10, 2021, 11:30:42 PM
Yeah I know... I am already used to Carhartt prices so I ain't all that set off by that price. If they are like all the rest of their stuff, they'll last twice or three times what the 40 dollar stuff will do. I get years out of their stuff, and if likewise with the pants, that would make them a bargain.

Even gimped up like I am, just putting around at farm chores, regular pants don't make more than months.

I've been collecting the Fire Hose pants over 10 years, and I have yet to get so much as a worn knee on any of them.  I have so many because my size has changed quite a bit over the years.  I dropped 55 pounds or so a couple yeas back, but I had to size up a bit from the Rona weight.  Now it's back to normal.  The suits fit.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 10, 2021, 11:36:30 PM
I've been collecting the Fire Hose pants over 10 years, and I have yet to get so much as a worn knee on any of them.  I have so many because my size has changed quite a bit over the years.  I dropped 55 pounds or so a couple yeas back, but I had to size up a bit from the Rona weight.  Now it's back to normal.  The suits fit.

That's why the overalls... Since I gimped up my knee last fall I turned back into a basement geek... and that came with some tonnage. I won't see even my normal winter weight till well after mid summer, and maybe not by harvest... Depends how long it takes me to get back over a mile walking... Once I can sustain a mile or more, it will start melting off. The question is how long I can go without blowing it out again..  :shrug:

Right now, it don;t look like I will be working up in the holler for a while yet. Maybe miss it this year. Bums me out.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 11, 2021, 01:34:46 AM
I've been collecting the Fire Hose pants over 10 years, and I have yet to get so much as a worn knee on any of them.  I have so many because my size has changed quite a bit over the years.  I dropped 55 pounds or so a couple yeas back, but I had to size up a bit from the Rona weight.  Now it's back to normal.  The suits fit.

Fire hose pants? I'm guessing that's just an expression, because I can't imagine pants made out of actual fire hose material would be comfortable.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2021, 09:16:10 AM
Fire hose pants? I'm guessing that's just an expression, because I can't imagine pants made out of actual fire hose material would be comfortable.

I find them very comfortable, and being water resistant they make good snow pants....

They are a very strong canvas.  What Levis were like a century ago.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Victoria33 on June 11, 2021, 10:20:12 AM
The Fire Hose pants have 11 real pockets one inside the waistband.  They're also about $70-80 a pop.
@Cyber Liberty

Bob has a pair of those pants - so many pockets!  Excellent looking pants.  There is a Duluth store not far from the house, off a major highway.  You are right, they are major expensive, but excellent quality.  I think I will give a pair of those pants to Bob for Christmas since he only has one pair. 
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: sneakypete on June 11, 2021, 10:29:27 AM
I don't even own any underwear. I like to let my boys roam free.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 11, 2021, 10:42:26 AM
I don't even own any underwear. I like to let my boys roam free.

Nope, my boys need a home.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 11, 2021, 10:45:24 AM
I find them very comfortable, and being water resistant they make good snow pants....

They are a very strong canvas.  What Levis were like a century ago.

Interesting. Fire hose is a rubber impregnated canvas, so maybe the pants are made using the same canvas material. Anyway, thanks for the tip on DTC. I have a few pairs of their boxers/briefs on the way. After losing all the weight, the old ones won't stay up...
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2021, 10:49:27 AM
Interesting. Fire hose is a rubber impregnated canvas, so maybe the pants are made using the same canvas material. Anyway, thanks for the tip on DTC. I have a few pairs of their boxers/briefs on the way. After losing all the weight, the old ones won't stay up...

I like the fact they put gussets in the crotch and armpits (in the "No Polo" shirts).  Much more comfortable to have no seam pulling up into "my boys."  You are going to like the boxers!
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 11, 2021, 01:19:05 PM
Had a girl (friend), very Christian 35yrs old.
When she went to bed (with me)...she was girded for war.
Kept telling her to relax. You don't need to wear anything. (wrong thing to say to her)
Instead she came to bed fully armed ... robe, yoga pants, knife on her thigh, girdle, panties with a pad, kevlar vest, and a gun.
She wore more clothes to bed than she did going to work.
I think she was trying to tell me something? She was signaling something?
Sex was like opening a Christmas package, and I failed more times than not.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 11, 2021, 03:11:20 PM
Had a girl (friend), very Christian 35yrs old.
When she went to bed (with me)...she was girded for war.
Kept telling her to relax. You don't need to wear anything. (wrong thing to say to her)
Instead she came to bed fully armed ... robe, yoga pants, knife on her thigh, girdle, panties with a pad, kevlar vest, and a gun.
She wore more clothes to bed than she did going to work.
I think she was trying to tell me something? She was signaling something?
Sex was like opening a Christmas package, and I failed more times than not.

Perhaps it was
your excessive use of
the "enter" key.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on June 11, 2021, 03:31:11 PM
Tighty whities will get you laughed out a Nevada cat house.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Wingnut on June 11, 2021, 03:56:30 PM
Just say no to skivvies.

Wearing underwear, especially tightie whities, can push your boys against your body and raise your testes temperature. There is a reason those bad boys hang outside of the body in a wrinkled sack.  I'm not a doctor but I have had to "turn my head and cough" many times so I know from medical exams that to produce an army of good strong swimmers the seeds need to stay at about 94°F which is a few degrees cooler than the body’s typical temp.

Another advantage I found when I was younger was if your lover reaches down your pants, she hits a home run. Predate tip. No one like sweaddy smelly balls so rub some witch hazel around the batters box.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2021, 04:06:39 PM
@Wingnut, do you want to edit that a bit, or should I just pull it?   :laugh:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Wingnut on June 11, 2021, 04:08:13 PM
@Wingnut, do you want to edit that a bit, or should I just pull it?   :laugh:

It's a classy piece.  I wouldn't touch it.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2021, 04:10:47 PM
It's a classy piece.  I wouldn't touch it.

Well, if I touch it, you'll just edit it back, which would be bad because you know how much Nancy and I like that.  :nono:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Wingnut on June 11, 2021, 04:16:18 PM
Well, if I touch it, you'll just edit it back, which would be bad because you know how much Nancy and I like that.  :nono:

That was the old Wingnut.  I am reformed. 

When it comes to my medical post I like to keep it in layman's terms!  333cleo :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2021, 04:29:05 PM
That was the old Wingnut.  I am reformed. 

When it comes to my medical post I like to keep it in layman's terms!  333cleo :cool: :cool:

"Outside of the body in a wrinkled sack" is actually a highly technical term.  I think it's Latin, or a Wino term for how you drink wine.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 11, 2021, 04:37:06 PM
When in the military
got a hernia exam.
Some young nurse
grabbing my balls
twisting them this way and that
She was under there looking up
I could feel her breath

OK? Look! I don't know what you are doing
but whatever it is, i don't care. Yes! You win! I surrender
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Wingnut on June 11, 2021, 04:37:59 PM
"Outside of the body in a wrinkled sack" is actually a highly technical term.  I think it's Latin, or a Wino term for how you drink wine.

True...  They work like cooling fins on a radiator.... or a like you said...a fortified ripple pint in a brown bag!
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 11, 2021, 04:45:14 PM
True...  They work like cooling fins on a radiator.... or a like you said...a fortified ripple pint in a brown bag!

Fred Sanford loved the combination of Champagne and Ripple:  "Champipple."
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Wingnut on June 11, 2021, 04:47:26 PM
Fred Sanford loved the combination of Champagne and Ripple:  "Champipple."

Fred was the man. 888high58888
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 11, 2021, 07:07:01 PM
Fred was the man. 888high58888

(https://i.imgur.com/tGvpSMa.png)
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: sneakypete on June 11, 2021, 07:15:09 PM
Fred was the man. 888high58888

@Wingnut

He was one of the nastiest and most racist SOB's to ever walk upright. I was working as a bodyguard for a security company in Denver in the 70's,and he came into town for some reason,and required bodyguards for ego as well as personal safety reasons.

The boss had dealt with him before,so they sent someone else instead of me. First thing he said when the 2 bodyguards showed up was "Those are my bags,boys. Pick them up and follow me."

He was also fond of calling them names like "cracka","boy",and "honkie".
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Wingnut on June 11, 2021, 07:39:28 PM
@Wingnut

He was one of the nastiest and most racist SOB's to ever walk upright. I was working as a bodyguard for a security company in Denver in the 70's,and he came into town for some reason,and required bodyguards for ego as well as personal safety reasons.

The boss had dealt with him before,so they sent someone else instead of me. First thing he said when the 2 bodyguards showed up was "Those are my bags,boys. Pick them up and follow me."

He was also fond of calling them names like "cracka","boy",and "honkie".

That story makes me like him even more.  Thanks for posting it. :beer:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 12, 2021, 07:06:30 AM
When in the military
got a hernia exam.
Some young nurse
grabbing my balls
twisting them this way and that
She was under there looking up
I could feel her breath

OK? Look! I don't know what you are doing
but whatever it is, i don't care. Yes! You win! I surrender

Just goes to prove...


When you have them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow...
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 12, 2021, 04:49:54 PM
Just say no to skivvies.

Wearing underwear, especially tightie whities, can push your boys against your body and raise your testes temperature. There is a reason those bad boys hang outside of the body in a wrinkled sack.  I'm not a doctor but I have had to "turn my head and cough" many times so I know from medical exams that to produce an army of good strong swimmers the seeds need to stay at about 94°F which is a few degrees cooler than the body’s typical temp.

Another advantage I found when I was younger was if your lover reaches down your pants, she hits a home run. Predate tip. No one like sweaddy smelly balls so rub some witch hazel around the batters box.
Some of us more well-endowed will get a nasty rash if we try to go commando.

I need "support" down there. Good underwear is the male equivalent of a bra. It lifts and supports.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: sneakypete on June 12, 2021, 10:39:56 PM
Some of us more well-endowed will get a nasty rash if we try to go commando.

I need "support" down there. Good underwear is the male equivalent of a bra. It lifts and supports.

@jmyrlefuller

I'm sorry to hear that. MY stuff didn't need any help getting lifted. Only the "right" inspiration.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 12, 2021, 10:52:30 PM
The commando thing is correct. I like it sometimes.
But the whole point of underwear is to keep your filthy body away from your clothes.
Until less than a hundred years ago, washing clothes way not a common thing.
The point of underwear was that you could wear the same suit for weeks ...
only changing out the dirty underwear. I don't like racing stripes on my slacks.
Don't want underarm stains on my shirts. Tee shirts are disposable. A $50 dollar white shirt, not so much.
Maybe I am being controversial? I don't know. But I will stick with underwear.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 12, 2021, 10:59:13 PM
Tee shirts are disposable. A $50 dollar white shirt, not so much.
Maybe I am being controversial? I don't know.

Yes you are. Who the hell buys 50 dollar shirts?

Quote
But I will stick with underwear.

Yeah... If they're sticking, it's definitely time to change them  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 12, 2021, 11:21:26 PM
Yes you are. Who the hell buys 50 dollar shirts?
In my life, worked in several Fortune 500 companies.
A 50 dollar shirt was considered to be a 'shmata' to those guys.
I lived in a completely different world than the one you know.
But it was still the same thing, fighting for survival, looking out for predators all the time.
The Corporate world is not so different from the Wild West.
We were all 'on our own'. To live or die was an everyday, every week, every month was a question.
Just like any mountain man. Same thing, only a different world.

Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 13, 2021, 12:44:46 AM
In my life, worked in several Fortune 500 companies.
A 50 dollar shirt was considered to be a 'shmata' to those guys.
I lived in a completely different world than the one you know.
But it was still the same thing, fighting for survival, looking out for predators all the time.
The Corporate world is not so different from the Wild West.
We were all 'on our own'. To live or die was an everyday, every week, every month was a question.
Just like any mountain man. Same thing, only a different world.

Actually, I know. I have been in Armani a couple times... Never bought the damn thing. Hit town and rent one, make the meeting, and send it back... At the time I was a front guy for a major hotel chain. I went into a town they were looking at and did all the footwork, coming up with 3 packages to present, and they would decide from there... And then I would hook em up with the package they wanted, leaving them anonymous until the end... They got in way cheaper if folks didn't know they were coming to town.

Thankfully that was a short run for me. I decided I am what I am, and went to such things in my natural way - Sh*tkickers or construction boots, and jeans and a t-shirt and a (probably camo) ball cap. Funny thing is, they listened to me better that way. Maybe not putting on airs looked like confidence to them. I don't know, but it worked.

And by the way - No, the woods ain't that cut-throat. No where near. The woods is honest about everything as are the folks that live up in there. If a griz is coming at you, he is honest about it and coming straight at you. Only the cougar is a sneak about it.

Which is why I came back to the woods and away from business. Especially big business. Back-stabbing every chance they get. No offense meant.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 13, 2021, 01:13:32 AM
And by the way - No, the woods ain't that cut-throat. No where near. The woods is honest about everything as are the folks that live up in there. If a griz is coming at you, he is honest about it and coming straight at you. Only the cougar is a sneak about it.

Which is why I came back to the woods and away from business. Especially big business. Back-stabbing every chance they get. No offense meant.

I did OK with the "office BS" when I had the R&D Lab gig for 25 years or so.  Got to be a PITA the last couple years, but by then the job did what I wanted it to:  Let me save up bucks for the Castle.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 13, 2021, 01:19:22 AM
I did OK with the "office BS" when I had the R&D Lab gig for 25 years or so.  Got to be a PITA the last couple years, but by then the job did what I wanted it to:  Let me save up bucks for the Castle.

Well, I did alright too, till I figured out the lie I was living. That is what opened my eyes.  Till then, with the bit in my teeth, I could not see how I was getting screwed. But I can see it now... Never again.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 13, 2021, 03:55:18 AM
It is a true thing
I speak more that three languages.
I swear that I have spoken to a Muslim in Spanish,  and he understood. (which was weird)
But in more common languages I tend to say my thoughts. Told a Mexican guy, "Ani lo entindieno!"
He knew exactly what that meant. I keep replacing words for thoughts in my mind ... and they always understand.
This confuses me.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 13, 2021, 11:47:13 AM
It is a true thing
I speak more that three languages.
I swear that I have spoken to a Muslim in Spanish, which really happened, and he understood. (which was weird)
But in more common languages I tend to say my thoughts. Told a Mexican guy, "Ani lo entindieno!"
He knew exactly what that meant. I keep replacing words for thoughts in my mind ... and they always understand.
This confuses me.

And yet paragraphs and proper use of the Enter key still elude you. Fascinating.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 13, 2021, 05:08:38 PM

Said then the lost Arch-Angel, this the seat
That we must change for Heav'n, this mournful gloom
For that celestial light? Be it so, since he
Who now is Sovran can dispose and bid
What shall be right: fardest from him is best
Whom reason hath equald, force hath made supream
Above his equals. Farewel happy Fields
Where Joy for ever dwells: Hail horrours, hail
Infernal world, and thou profoundest Hell
Receive thy new Possessor: One who brings
A mind not to be chang'd by Place or Time.
The mind is its own place, and in it self
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.
What matter where, if I be still the same,
And what I should be, all but less then he
Whom Thunder hath made greater? Here at least
We shall be free; th' Almighty hath not built
Here for his envy, will not drive us hence:
Here we may reign secure, and in my choyce
To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost
btw, it really is a good read. If you haven't you should.

We should search time for that vaunted 'Enter Key'.
I think they missed your boat...


And the afternoon, the evening, sleeps so peacefully!
Smoothed by long fingers,
Asleep ... tired ... or it malingers,
Stretched on the floor, here beside you and me.
Should I, after tea and cakes and ices,
Have the strength to force the moment to its crisis?
But though I have wept and fasted, wept and prayed,
Though I have seen my head (grown slightly bald) brought in upon a platter,
I am no prophet — and here’s no great matter;
I have seen the moment of my greatness flicker,
And I have seen the eternal Footman hold my coat, and snicker,
And in short, I was afraid.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 13, 2021, 05:55:21 PM
And yet paragraphs and proper use of the Enter key still elude you. Fascinat'ing.
'Proper' use of the Enter Key...Is a mystery?
Shall we have a proper tea, and discuss this over tea and heart shaped pink crumpets?
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 13, 2021, 06:24:29 PM
When in the military
got a hernia exam.
Some young nurse
grabbing my balls
twisting them this way and that
She was under there looking up
I could feel her breath

OK? Look! I don't know what you are doing
but whatever it is, i don't care. Yes! You win! I surrender
I bought her a diamond ring.
Had to return it.
She did not remember who I was?
Are you patient 10986?
Maybe I saw you once ..but I don't know
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: sneakypete on June 13, 2021, 08:14:36 PM
I bought her a diamond ring.
Had to return it.
She did not remember who I was?
Are you patient 10986?
Maybe I saw you once ..but I don't know

@240B

You should have told her you were the guy she had to use both hands to lift your "boys". THAT would have gotten her attention.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 13, 2021, 08:21:31 PM
@240B

You should have told her you were the guy she had to use both hands to lift your "boys". THAT would have gotten her attention.

only if it were true.  :silly:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 13, 2021, 08:28:12 PM
I do not want to continue this discussion.
What I said is true, I could never make it up ever.
I am not that creative.
That was a long time ago. When I was 20.
But, it was fun. If i knew the nurses did that ...
i would have been in the clinic every single day.
my balls hurt .... back then maybe, not so much anymore.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 13, 2021, 10:59:53 PM
'Proper' use of the Enter Key...Is a mystery?
Shall we have a proper tea, and discuss this over tea and heart shaped pink crumpets?

Please don't take offense, I just find it interesting that you and one other member here break up every sentence into multiple lines. Is it a habit you developed typing on a 3270 terminal?
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: 240B on June 14, 2021, 02:59:53 AM
Please don't take offense, I just find it interesting that you and one other member here break up every sentence into multiple lines. Is it a habit you developed typing on a 3270 terminal?
No offense taken at all.
I simply write in the style of my time.
The 1500s. to 1700s.
If you have something to say?
Then say it!
Otherwise you are just wasting my time.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 14, 2021, 02:27:17 PM
No offense taken at all.
I simply write in the style of my time.
The 1500s. to 1700s.
If you have something to say?
Then say it!
Otherwise you are just wasting my time.

LOL, ok. To each his own!
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 14, 2021, 03:14:40 PM
No offense taken at all.
I simply write in the style of my time.
The 1500s. to 1700s.
If you have something to say?
Then say it!
Otherwise you are just wasting my time.

That's ironic because to me, this entire thread is a bit of a waste. 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo rrthree
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Wingnut on June 14, 2021, 04:29:45 PM
Has Jeff Toobin responded to our poll. 
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 14, 2021, 04:32:20 PM
Has Jeff Toobin responded to our poll.

Yeah but it was too gooey to open.  The pages are all stuck together.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Wingnut on June 14, 2021, 05:59:31 PM
Yeah but it was too gooey to open.  The pages are all stuck together.

He said it was hand sanitizer....
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: sneakypete on June 15, 2021, 12:13:43 AM
He said it was hand sanitizer....

@Wingnut

Well,maybe it is in the social circles he travels within?
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 16, 2021, 04:44:23 AM
Yes you are. Who the hell buys 50 dollar shirts?

Yeah... If they're sticking, it's definitely time to change them  :laugh:
Well, I do, but they're NFPA 2112 compliant Flame Resistant stuff for work. Heavy fabric, and last for years.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 16, 2021, 04:59:39 AM
Well, I do, but they're NFPA 2112 compliant Flame Resistant stuff for work. Heavy fabric, and last for years.

Different story... That's a write off for work   :shrug:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: thackney on June 16, 2021, 07:37:17 AM
Different story... That's a write off for work   :shrug:

Well it would be if the expenses totaled enough.  Wearing $400 dollar outfits out in the mud is just part of the charm of oil/gas/petrochem work.  But no dry cleaning expenses...

I have turned the hose on myself before driving home.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 16, 2021, 08:57:36 AM
Well it would be if the expenses totaled enough.  Wearing $400 dollar outfits out in the mud is just part of the charm of oil/gas/petrochem work.  But no dry cleaning expenses...

I have turned the hose on myself before driving home.

 :shrug: Wouldn't know.

But hosing myself off after work... Well I do know all about that. Most of the womenfolk I know wouldn't let me anywhere near the house without it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 16, 2021, 09:59:24 AM
Yes you are. Who the hell buys 50 dollar shirts?

You think that's bad, look at this ridiculous shit:

https://www.untuckit.com/collections/shirts

I first heard about this company and thought "oh, good for concealed carry, let me check that out". Then I saw the price - no thanks!
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: thackney on June 16, 2021, 10:03:53 AM
You think that's bad, look at this ridiculous shit:

https://www.untuckit.com/collections/shirts

I first heard about this company and thought "oh, good for concealed carry, let me check that out". Then I saw the price - no thanks!

Try these:

https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/guayabera-shirts
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 16, 2021, 10:14:31 AM
Try these:

https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/guayabera-shirts

Thanks, but I don't buy from Walmart. Garbage company that sends our dollars to China.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 16, 2021, 10:56:14 AM
You think that's bad, look at this ridiculous shit:

https://www.untuckit.com/collections/shirts

I first heard about this company and thought "oh, good for concealed carry, let me check that out". Then I saw the price - no thanks!

Yeah, no. The day I can't get a decent shirt for thirty bucks or less is the day I go back to leathers,
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: thackney on June 16, 2021, 11:47:37 AM
Thanks, but I don't buy from Walmart. Garbage company that sends our dollars to China.

I just picked Walmart for the price.  Cuban style Guayabera are available from many, many different sources.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 16, 2021, 12:59:40 PM
I just picked Walmart for the price.  Cuban style Guayabera are available from many, many different sources.

Yes, thanks. They also need to a bit loose to avoid printing.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: thackney on June 16, 2021, 01:05:55 PM
Yes, thanks. They also need to a bit loose to avoid printing.

They are typically loose but also typically thin.  It was designed for hot weather.  But the style has caught on for some areas and more choices are available.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: BassWrangler on June 16, 2021, 07:41:47 PM
They are typically loose but also typically thin.  It was designed for hot weather.  But the style has caught on for some areas and more choices are available.

Thanks, I will give a look on Amazon for some. Thin is OK, as long as they have some sort of a pattern to break up the outline of the pistol grip.

I typically buy shirts to wear when I am carrying from 5.11 when they have a sale, but it's always good to have alternatives.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 19, 2021, 06:30:38 AM
Thanks, but I don't buy from Walmart. Garbage company that sends our dollars to China.
Their selection's been lacking lately, too. About the only time I buy anything from them is on clearance.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 19, 2021, 06:40:48 AM
Yeah, no. The day I can't get a decent shirt for thirty bucks or less is the day I go back to leathers,
$30 is the most I've ever spent on a shirt. It was still a size too small. Not a bad shirt, but still: women complain about how sizes are so inconsistent all the time but men's choices are just as bad and we measure in actual inches!
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 19, 2021, 07:40:45 AM
$30 is the most I've ever spent on a shirt. It was still a size too small. Not a bad shirt, but still: women complain about how sizes are so inconsistent all the time but men's choices are just as bad and we measure in actual inches!

My shirts seldom cost over 15 bucks... T shirts and flannel... From there it gets spendy. Serious work coats and rough weather gear can cost a mint. But even there, mostly I wait for the right deal. My main work coat is a Carhartt I got on clearance - Normally somewhat over 50 bucks, I got that for 15 bucks too... My main mountain coats are Patagonia and North Face, both of them hundred dollar range, both well under 50.

The stuff that sucks in price and never changes is high tech under layers, fleeces, and gortex stuff.. That stuff just sucks to buy. But it is all really durable. Another thing I lay out hard for is wool. Blankets or coats, real 100% wool in a decent thickness costs a mint... I don't think nothing of spending 300 bucks on a blanket or coat if it is wool.

Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 19, 2021, 06:02:22 PM
My shirts seldom cost over 15 bucks... T shirts and flannel... From there it gets spendy. Serious work coats and rough weather gear can cost a mint. But even there, mostly I wait for the right deal. My main work coat is a Carhartt I got on clearance - Normally somewhat over 50 bucks, I got that for 15 bucks too... My main mountain coats are Patagonia and North Face, both of them hundred dollar range, both well under 50.

The stuff that sucks in price and never changes is high tech under layers, fleeces, and gortex stuff.. That stuff just sucks to buy. But it is all really durable. Another thing I lay out hard for is wool. Blankets or coats, real 100% wool in a decent thickness costs a mint... I don't think nothing of spending 300 bucks on a blanket or coat if it is wool.
The place I find wool important is socks. Wigwam (https://www.wigwam.com/collections/men/products/40-below-f2230-olive) makes some good ones, and they might cost as much as your shirts, but wear those with a liner sock (something thin to let the wool wick away moisture from your feet, and slippery enough to not 'bind' to the wool, even after a couple of days with them on) and stuff them in a good pair of well made insulated waterproof boots,  (I like Georgia Boot's arctic toe 1000G thinsulate, but YMMV) and my feet stay warm and comfortable. NOw, for many, 15 bucks (they were actually more a couple years ago) may seem like a lot, but here's the bottom line: The rest of me isn't going anywhere without those feet.
It seems like a lot of dough for one pair of socks, but after two years of wearing those boots ('daily drivers') and the same sock setup, in weather ranging from -30 to +110, my feet are happy, and happy feet make for a happy me. The socks (I have quite a few pair now) hold up well, well over 100 wearings on some pairs, and I have yet to retire any.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 19, 2021, 06:37:17 PM
The place I find wool important is socks. Wigwam (https://www.wigwam.com/collections/men/products/40-below-f2230-olive) makes some good ones, and they might cost as much as your shirts, but wear those with a liner sock (something thin to let the wool wick away moisture from your feet, and slippery enough to not 'bind' to the wool, even after a couple of days with them on) and stuff them in a good pair of well made insulated waterproof boots,  (I like Georgia Boot's arctic toe 1000G thinsulate, but YMMV) and my feet stay warm and comfortable. NOw, for many, 15 bucks (they were actually more a couple years ago) may seem like a lot, but here's the bottom line: The rest of me isn't going anywhere without those feet.
It seems like a lot of dough for one pair of socks, but after two years of wearing those boots ('daily drivers') and the same sock setup, in weather ranging from -30 to +110, my feet are happy, and happy feet make for a happy me. The socks (I have quite a few pair now) hold up well, well over 100 wearings on some pairs, and I have yet to retire any.

Actually I have not bought wool socks in decades. I prolly have 30 pair. Don't remember the brand, but I bought a ton, and they are a perennial favorite to give to me as a Christmas gift... that and blanket or fleece lined flannel shirts. I got more than  I will ever use.

I am tween boots. Can't find what I want. I just threw out my Danners... And I have not been happy since I finally wore out my Dexters from back in the day. I REALLY prefer a hiker to a military style boot. Looking at some Vasques. Dunno. BUT, when it gets deep I am in packs or muks anyhow. But I really do need to find me a hiker-style leather winter boot.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 20, 2021, 01:17:49 AM
Actually I have not bought wool socks in decades. I prolly have 30 pair. Don't remember the brand, but I bought a ton, and they are a perennial favorite to give to me as a Christmas gift... that and blanket or fleece lined flannel shirts. I got more than  I will ever use.

I am tween boots. Can't find what I want. I just threw out my Danners... And I have not been happy since I finally wore out my Dexters from back in the day. I REALLY prefer a hiker to a military style boot. Looking at some Vasques. Dunno. BUT, when it gets deep I am in packs or muks anyhow. But I really do need to find me a hiker-style leather winter boot.
It looks like Georgia boot stopped making the ones I like best (good thing I bought an extra pair). There are some of those out there for half price, if you wear size 14 or 16. (a mite big for my 12s). Model number g8162 are the ones I have literally worn the soles off of.
Other lines here (https://www.georgiaboot.com/insulated-work-boots/?prefn1=productFeatures&prefv1=18|19|4&prefn2=size&prefv2=12). Good boots, but more of a work boot configuration then the lower quarter hikers. (I still have my hikers from my college days, but haven't worn them for years. Don't even know if they will still go on my feet.)
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 20, 2021, 02:35:11 AM
It looks like Georgia boot stopped making the ones I like best (good thing I bought an extra pair). There are some of those out there for half price, if you wear size 14 or 16. (a mite big for my 12s). Model number g8162 are the ones I have literally worn the soles off of.
Other lines here (https://www.georgiaboot.com/insulated-work-boots/?prefn1=productFeatures&prefv1=18|19|4&prefn2=size&prefv2=12). Good boots, but more of a work boot configuration then the lower quarter hikers. (I still have my hikers from my college days, but haven't worn them for years. Don't even know if they will still go on my feet.)

Thanks but nope. Samey thing as them Danners... I don't like tight lace-ups in the winter. That's why I want another alpine hiker. They retain room inside, and the wool does not get compressed. I get cold in them lace-ups, and since I am in gaiters most all the time, I don't need any higher than the ankles.

Them Dexters were nigh on bulletproof. I had em nearly thirty years, and abused them daily. Every single piece of them had been replaced several times. But finally my cobbler cried enough. Now I wish I'd twisted his arm just a bit more. Best boots I ever had.

Had a set of Herman Survivors a while back that weren't bad - Didn't really like the high rubber rand that acted like a tub and rotted the leather underneath. They lasted alright and all, but when it came time to repair, nothing was repairable. I am sick to death of glued up boots. Thinking of hitting up Nick's or White to see if they'd custom some alpine boots.

Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 20, 2021, 07:13:50 AM
Thanks but nope. Samey thing as them Danners... I don't like tight lace-ups in the winter. That's why I want another alpine hiker. They retain room inside, and the wool does not get compressed. I get cold in them lace-ups, and since I am in gaiters most all the time, I don't need any higher than the ankles.

Them Dexters were nigh on bulletproof. I had em nearly thirty years, and abused them daily. Every single piece of them had been replaced several times. But finally my cobbler cried enough. Now I wish I'd twisted his arm just a bit more. Best boots I ever had.

Had a set of Herman Survivors a while back that weren't bad - Didn't really like the high rubber rand that acted like a tub and rotted the leather underneath. They lasted alright and all, but when it came time to repair, nothing was repairable. I am sick to death of glued up boots. Thinking of hitting up Nick's or White to see if they'd custom some alpine boots.
Well, to each their own. The last Herman Survivors I had were junk. They didn't survive. I had some fleece (fleece-ish?) lined Chippewas many moons ago that were pretty good, but again, lace-ups. The hiking boots I still have were Thom McCann's (they are almost 50), which surprised me for their durability, wearability, and I climbed in them too. Never found pac boots with a strong enough sole for me, so If I am in the boonies, it's like wearing slippers. My big ol' congenitally flat feet just don't like that in rough terrain. As for lace-ups, the Georgia Boot ones are about the best I have worn in cold. plenty of toe room, even with the woolies, and well enough insulated that my feet don't get cold. I have to say that much for them. Unfortunately, of the newer offerings, the 1000 gram thinsulate boots aren't being offered.
If it isn't rated for -30 or colder, I don't want it, except to wear in summer.

Last pair of Pac Boots I bought that did fairly well were Guide Gear -40 rated and IIRC 1000 gram thinsulate. I put rubbers on them to keep oil based drilling mud from eating them and they lasted a few years. My feet never got cold in them, even sitting still in -30 weather, but again, while well padded, they were not the best on harsh and uneven surfaces, likely because they were made mainly for snow. I went through three sets of rubbers but never wore the soles out, (because the rubbers did their job of protecting them).

But good hiking/climbing boots are hard to come by.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: roamer_1 on June 20, 2021, 08:22:57 AM
Well, to each their own. The last Herman Survivors I had were junk. They didn't survive.

Mine neither... I maybe got two years out of em...  and then they couldn't repair at all. Pitched em, and never went back.

Quote
Last pair of Pac Boots I bought that did fairly well were Guide Gear -40 rated and IIRC 1000 gram thinsulate. I put rubbers on them to keep oil based drilling mud from eating them and they lasted a few years. My feet never got cold in them, even sitting still in -30 weather, but again, while well padded, they were not the best on harsh and uneven surfaces, likely because they were made mainly for snow. I went through three sets of rubbers but never wore the soles out, (because the rubbers did their job of protecting them).

You might want to look at Kamik for pacs. I have had super good luck with them. They are softer and more pliable than a Sorel... Wider in the track. Even the leather flops over if the inners are taken out. You would think them a lesser boot, but I always had trouble with Sorel tearing out at the heel or the leather upper - Too rigid in comparison. I have had them Kamiks maybe 15 years now, where a Sorel don't last me five. Maybe three... And I chalk it up to their being more pliable... They are kinda like the difference between a boot and a moc. But then, that was more than a decade ago, so who knows if they kept up their good name. But they walk real nice, with more of the flex you'd expect from a moc. I know it don't, but it seems like you can better feel the ground.

I will go back for more.

ETA: For Muks, Steger, of course.
Title: Re: Are tightie whitey just simply man panties?
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 20, 2021, 01:30:01 PM
@roamer_1 Well, I have tried Kamiks, and still have a pair. Problem is, with a softer boot, my feet are more prone to injury. The Guide Gear (Sportsman's Guide) ones were warmer, too, but in fairness, the claims made by the Guide were beyond what Kamik claimed, so they just lived up to what they advertised. Frankly, I was surprised by how good those boots were, not just how good they were for the money.