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Title: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Elderberry on April 29, 2021, 11:54:57 pm
The Post & Email 4/29/2021

"I KNOW WHY, AND SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE!"

On Wednesday evening, 45th President of the United States Donald Trump said on Gab.com that the judge overseeing a lawsuit brought by Arizona Democrats against Republican state senate members conducting an audit in Maricopa County of the November 3, 2020 election handed the Republicans a “BIG victory.”

According to Trump’s former personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, on Friday, Trump was being kept up-to-date on the audit’s progress, which began that day amidst a lawsuit filed Thursday by the Arizona Democratic Party claiming the audit’s methods to be too secretive and non-protective of voters’ privacy.

“BIG victory today in Arizona,” Trump tweeted Wednesday. “A highly respected Judge has just ruled that the Forensic Audit being done by the Arizona State Senate can and will continue. Over 100 Democrat lawyers were sent to fight against this audit. The results will be very interesting for the USA and the World to see!”

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Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 01, 2021, 07:30:28 pm
What does the GOP not believe about previous audits ?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 01, 2021, 07:32:31 pm
I voted for Donald Trump twice and I'd do it again if the chance came up.

But I am one of the people who believes he helped lose this election by being so inflexible in his response to COVID. 

I am getting a little tired of this continuation.

What happened to Sydney Powell and all this overwhelming evidence ?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: libertybele on May 01, 2021, 08:27:31 pm
I voted for Donald Trump twice and I'd do it again if the chance came up.

But I am one of the people who believes he helped lose this election by being so inflexible in his response to COVID. 

I am getting a little tired of this continuation.

What happened to Sydney Powell and all this overwhelming evidence ?

I declare b.s.

#1 COVID was inflicted upon us by Fauci and cronies.  I do not believe it is a coincidence that everyone running on the DEM ticket stepped down and miraculously Biden became the  nominee.  Even Buttgig had more delegates then he did.  The DEMS had to do something in order to take down Trump.  He was getting to close to uncovering and putting on full display the corruption of the past administration; Burisma for starters.   

# 2 The election was stolen.

#3  The SCOTUS FAILED this country and looked the other way and allowed the steal.

#4  Pence, Pelosi, and others were fully aware of and helped to orchestrate the attack on the capital ; of course Trump and his supporters were blamed.

Here we sit and unless the 75 million who voted for Trump find a way to restore election integrity OR unseat the corrupt in power, things will NEVER change.

Freedom.  It is OURS for the taking.  ---- Dr. Ron Paul

Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 02, 2021, 05:54:12 pm
What does the GOP not believe about previous audits ?

Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 02, 2021, 05:56:07 pm
I declare b.s.

#1 COVID was inflicted upon us by Fauci and cronies.  I do not believe it is a coincidence that everyone running on the DEM ticket stepped down and miraculously Biden became the  nominee.  Even Buttgig had more delegates then he did.  The DEMS had to do something in order to take down Trump.  He was getting to close to uncovering and putting on full display the corruption of the past administration; Burisma for starters.   

# 2 The election was stolen.

#3  The SCOTUS FAILED this country and looked the other way and allowed the steal.

#4  Pence, Pelosi, and others were fully aware of and helped to orchestrate the attack on the capital ; of course Trump and his supporters were blamed.

Here we sit and unless the 75 million who voted for Trump find a way to restore election integrity OR unseat the corrupt in power, things will NEVER change.

Freedom.  It is OURS for the taking.  ---- Dr. Ron Paul



If I said Trump lost because of Covid, I'd be calling my opinion fact.  I try to avoid that and I wish others would work a little harder to do the same.

Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: libertybele on May 02, 2021, 06:28:59 pm
If I said Trump lost because of Covid, I'd be calling my opinion fact.  I try to avoid that and I wish others would work a little harder to do the same.

When I enter a post about facts, you'll know it as I normally post links and data to support the facts and sort through different data. Even at that it's up to any individual reading my posts or other's to discern whether or not they agree. Personally, I trust very few people and even fewer in our government  (with good reason).

This is a forum for discussion of opinions and facts. This forum also has topics that are more on the lighter side, which I enjoy as well.

I contradicted your opinions with mine and why I feel the way that I do. Nothing more than that.

Peace.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 06:37:19 pm
What does the GOP not believe about previous audits ?

I can't believe that's a serious question from one who claims to follow Arizona politics. **nononono*
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 02, 2021, 07:13:41 pm
I can't believe that's a serious question from one who claims to follow Arizona politics. **nononono*

I don't know what claims you believe I've made. 

I really don't follow this all to closely.  So far, I've seen nothing to get to excited about.

And the process the GOP is using is no better than what they said go us here to begin with.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 02, 2021, 07:16:10 pm
When I enter a post about facts, you'll know it as I normally post links and data to support the facts and sort through different data. Even at that it's up to any individual reading my posts or other's to discern whether or not they agree. Personally, I trust very few people and even fewer in our government  (with good reason).

This is a forum for discussion of opinions and facts. This forum also has topics that are more on the lighter side, which I enjoy as well.

I contradicted your opinions with mine and why I feel the way that I do. Nothing more than that.

Peace.

Thank you for the clarification.

I am with you in that I don't trust many in our government and I don't trust the political parties at the national level.

We are way to far away from the concept of federalism in my opinion.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on May 02, 2021, 07:20:52 pm
What does the GOP not believe about previous audits ?
I believe previous recounts accurately reflected the original vote count. But a recount is different from an audit.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 07:35:01 pm
@HikerGuy83

In answer to your question(s) about previous audits, there have not been any until now.  The ballots were "canvassed" in November, which is standard procedure.  Canvassing is recounting a small sample of the ballots, and there is supposed to be further examination if the recount shows an error rate of a fraction of a percent.  The samples in Maricopa County showed greater than a 1% error rate, and that error counted Trump votes as a Biteme vote on Election day.  The error rate in the canvas could have easily been enough to swing the close election.

And this was a half-assed machine canvas, not hand count.  Worse, even though it showed an unacceptable error rate, there was no further analysis done because the R Governor and AG, along with the Rat Secretary of State nixed it. 

What is going on right now is a 100% audit, which is much more than a simple recount.  Ballots are being UV scanned for the proper watermarks.  The Dominion counting machines (all 400 or so of them) are being checked to see if they were tampered with.  And yes, it's a hand count.

This Audit was made necessary by the Democrats' and RINOs' refusal to follow procedure and do deeper recounts when the Canvassing failed (and make no mistake, it failed!  That's the "previous audit" we have problems with).
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 07:36:50 pm
I believe previous recounts accurately reflected the original vote count. But a recount is different from an audit.

No they dint!
The early canvassing showed an unacceptable error rate (by law), but attempts to take it further were nixed by Rats and RINOs.  All illegal.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on May 02, 2021, 07:37:59 pm

No they dint!
The early canvassing showed an unacceptable error rate (by law), but attempts to take it further were nixed by Rats and RINOs.  All illegal.
Isn't that saying the same thing? Recount vs audit?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 02, 2021, 07:42:43 pm
@HikerGuy83

In answer to your question(s) about previous audits, there have not been any until now.  The ballots were "canvassed" in November, which is standard procedure.  Canvassing is recounting a small sample of the ballots, and there is supposed to be further examination if the recount shows an error rate of a fraction of a percent.  The samples in Maricopa County showed greater than a 1% error rate, and that error counted Trump votes as a Biteme vote on Election day.  The error rate in the canvas could have easily been enough to swing the close election.

And this was a half-assed machine canvas, not hand count.  Worse, even though it showed an unacceptable error rate, there was no further analysis done because the R Governor and AG, along with the Rat Secretary of State nixed it. 

What is going on right now is a 100% audit, which is much more than a simple recount.  Ballots are being UV scanned for the proper watermarks.  The Dominion counting machines (all 400 or so of them) are being checked to see if they were tampered with.  And yes, it's a hand count.

This Audit was made necessary by the Democrats' and RINOs' refusal to follow procedure and do deeper recounts when the Canvassing failed (and make no mistake, it failed!  That's the "previous audit" we have problems with).

The way this is being explained is that the GOP is conducting this "in secret".  I don't know how that could be.

And the real question I have is....just what is the outcome. 

Just looking at the way it was set up.....it can't have any legal impact on the election. 

Is that true ?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 07:48:20 pm
Isn't that saying the same thing? Recount vs audit?

What's wrong is that the canvas did not reflect the actual votes.  If it did, as you alluded, there would not be an audit going on right now.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 07:52:52 pm
The way this is being explained is that the GOP is conducting this "in secret".  I don't know how that could be.

And the real question I have is....just what is the outcome. 

Just looking at the way it was set up.....it can't have any legal impact on the election. 

Is that true ?

It won't change the election, but that was never the point.  And yes, the leftist papers and TeeVee in Maricopa County insists it's a "Republican" audit, which is an effort to undermine the audit.

Stop getting your news from the Arizona Republic, the Tribunes or New Times.  They lie.

As for the outcome, ask me around June 1st.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Fishrrman on May 02, 2021, 07:53:10 pm
Cyber... how long until the outcome of the hand recount is announced...?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on May 02, 2021, 08:18:25 pm
What's wrong is that the canvas did not reflect the actual votes.  If it did, as you alluded, there would not be an audit going on right now.
semantics. But I understand and agree that the audit is meant to determine actual legitimate votes.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 08:27:50 pm
semantics. But I understand and agree that the audit is meant to determine actual legitimate votes.

I was responding to this:

Quote
I believe previous recounts accurately reflected the original vote count. But a recount is different from an audit.

My disagreement isn't about semantics, I was pointing out the "recounts" did NOT accurately reflect the original count.  They manifestly did not, but efforts to follow the law and refuse to certify the results were ignored by the Governor, the AG and the SoS.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on May 02, 2021, 08:28:45 pm
I was responding to this:

My disagreement isn't about semantics, I was pointing out the "recounts" did NOT accurately reflect the original count.  They manifestly did not, but efforts to follow the law and refuse to certify the results were ignored by the Governor, the AG and the SoS.
got it.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 08:31:46 pm
Cyber... how long until the outcome of the hand recount is announced...?

I expect a report around June 1st, if the audit survives all the lawyers (over 90) the Rats sent to AZ to sue to stop the audit that has the politicians trying to hide something.

They expect to finish the counting by May 17th, I believe, and there will be a lot of forensic evidence about the physical ballots and Dominion machines.  I think that will take a couple more weeks.  I am not believing any leaks about counts before then, so any we see will be lies told by somebody.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 02, 2021, 08:37:27 pm
It won't change the election, but that was never the point.  And yes, the leftist papers and TeeVee in Maricopa County insists it's a "Republican" audit, which is an effort to undermine the audit.

Stop getting your news from the Arizona Republic, the Tribunes or New Times.  They lie.

As for the outcome, ask me around June 1st.

Then help me out here.

What is the point ?

Where should I get my news on this ?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 02, 2021, 08:38:50 pm
I was responding to this:

My disagreement isn't about semantics, I was pointing out the "recounts" did NOT accurately reflect the original count.  They manifestly did not, but efforts to follow the law and refuse to certify the results were ignored by the Governor, the AG and the SoS.

Yes, I see that as a greater issue. 

And it feels like we were let down in that respect.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 09:09:08 pm
Then help me out here.

What is the point ?

Where should I get my news on this ?

The point is to prove there were illegal shenanigans, which will show us how to fix the election laws in Arizona so it doesn't happen again.  It's important to note that while an audit could vindicate what Donald Trump has been saying, we're not doing it for him. It really is "for the people," and the Rats don't want us to eat that lunch.

As for where to get better information, just abut any of the articles you see posted here are etter than the fishwrap I mentioned.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 02, 2021, 09:18:53 pm
Yes, I see that as a greater issue. 

And it feels like we were let down in that respect.

Yes, indeed we were, and the masses are pizzed! 

The aforementioned AG was in my town for a GOP fundraiser about a month ago to speak, and I told him, "Mark, this is a big fundraiser for my Party, and I know you don't GAF I'm the Vice Chair of this County so I won't say what I think of you, but I won't let the folks snipe at you for it.  They feel as I do."  He left s soon as he finished his speech.

I was against having him as a speaker from the get-go (Paul Gosar was much better), but I was prevailed upon by my second best friend in town (whom I still love).  Now, with both my wife and I on the County Executive Board, I won't be swept aside again.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 02, 2021, 09:22:21 pm
I voted for Donald Trump twice and I'd do it again if the chance came up.

But I am one of the people who believes he helped lose this election by being so inflexible in his response to COVID. 

I am getting a little tired of this continuation.

What happened to Sydney Powell and all this overwhelming evidence ?

What do you mean about his being inflexible about, his covid response?  I have 3 pages of all that was done to fight covid
. I am curious.  I support your posts and my real POTUS TRUMP.  The election was NOT LOST.  100 MILLION PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM.  HE WON BY A LANDSLIDE.   
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 02, 2021, 09:27:34 pm
I declare b.s.

#1 COVID was inflicted upon us by Fauci and cronies.  I do not believe it is a coincidence that everyone running on the DEM ticket stepped down and miraculously Biden became the  nominee.  Even Buttgig had more delegates then he did.  The DEMS had to do something in order to take down Trump.  He was getting to close to uncovering and putting on full display the corruption of the past administration; Burisma for starters.   

# 2 The election was stolen.

#3  The SCOTUS FAILED this country and looked the other way and allowed the steal.

#4  Pence, Pelosi, and others were fully aware of and helped to orchestrate the attack on the capital ; of course Trump and his supporters were blamed.

Here we sit and unless the 75 million who voted for Trump find a way to restore election integrity OR unseat the corrupt in power, things will NEVER change.

Freedom.  It is OURS for the taking.  ---- Dr. Ron Paul

Thank you.  I found that post not correct either.   :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 02, 2021, 09:36:36 pm
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Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 03, 2021, 04:03:03 am
What do you mean about his being inflexible about, his covid response?  I have 3 pages of all that was done to fight covid
. I am curious.  I support your posts and my real POTUS TRUMP.  The election was NOT LOST.  100 MILLION PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM.  HE WON BY A LANDSLIDE.   

In my opinion, Trump mishandled the COVID mess by not being empathetic enough. 

He could have spared us some of the lockdowns by helping people see we were working together.

Yes, yes, yes......morons pelosi and uppy chucky shcumer would have fought him....but he would have been seen as trying to do the best for America. 

He does not like being challenged and get's combative.

That was not the place for it.

Had he shown a little humility...he'd be in the WH right now.

I don't apologize....that is the way I see it.

I feel like he let me down.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 05:00:31 am
In my opinion, Trump mishandled the COVID mess by not being empathetic enough. 

He could have spared us some of the lockdowns by helping people see we were working together.

Yes, yes, yes......morons pelosi and uppy chucky shcumer would have fought him....but he would have been seen as trying to do the best for America. 

He does not like being challenged and get's combative.

That was not the place for it.

Had he shown a little humility...he'd be in the WH right now.

I don't apologize....that is the way I see it.

I feel like he let me down.

So wrong on it all. The weekly meetings on covid? Did you watch too much left propaganda?
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March 18: HHS temporarily suspended a regulation that prevents doctors from practicing across state lines.

March 18: President Trump spoke to:

Doctors, physicians, and nurses on the front lines containing the spread of coronavirus.
 
130 CEOs of the Business Roundtable to discuss on-going public-private partnerships in response to the coronavirus pandemic.
March 19: President Trump announced:

Very encouraging progress shown by anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine for fighting coronavirus.
 
Carnival Cruise Lines will make ships available for use as hospitals in impacted areas to use for non-coronavirus patients.
March 19:  Vice President Pence announced tens of thousands of ventilators have been identified that can be converted to treat patients.

March 19: The State Department issued a global level 4 health advisory, telling Americans to avoid all international travel due to coronavirus.

March 19: President Trump directed FEMA to take the lead on the Federal Government’s coronavirus response & visited FEMA HQ with Vice President Pence for a video call with Governors.

March 20: The U.S. and Mexico agree to mutually restrict nonessential cross-border traffic.

March 20: Secretary Mnuchin announced at the direction of President Trump that tax day will be moved from April 15 to July 15 for all taxpayers and businesses.

March 20:  President Trump:

Spoke with Sen. Schumer about coronavirus response & stimulus measures
 
Held a call with over 12,000 small business owners to discuss relief efforts
 
Announced the CDC will invoke Title 42 to provide border patrol with tools to secure the borders
March 20: The Department of Education announced it will:

Not enforce standardized testing requirements for the remainder of the school year
 
Allow federal student loan borrowers to stop payments without penalty for 60 days
March 20: Secretary Azar announced:

FEMA is coordinating and assisting coronavirus testing at labs across the country
 
The CDC is suspending all illegal entries to the country based on the public health threat, via Section 362 of the Public Health & Security Act
March 20: Secretary Azar sent a letter to all 50 Governors that the federal government is buying and making available 200,000 testing swabs

March 21: Vice President Pence announced to date over 195,000 Americans tested for coronavirus and have received their results

March 21: The Trump Administration announced HHS placed an order for hundreds of millions of N95 masks through FEMA

March 21: The FDA announced it had given emergency approval to a new coronavirus test that delivers results in hours, with an intended rollout of March 30

March 21: Adm. Giroir confirmed 10 million testing kits had been put into the commercial market from March 2 through March 14

March 22: President Trump approved major disaster declarations for:

Washington State
 
California
March 22: President Trump announced:

Governors will remain in command of National Guard forces & the federal govt will fund 100% of operations cost
 
He directed the federal govt to provide 4 large federal medical stations with 2,000 beds for CA & 1,000 beds for NY & WA.
March 22:  President Trump confirmed his administration was working with Peru & Honduras to return Americans stranded in both countries as a result of travel restrictions.

March 22: Vice President Pence announced:

The testing backlog will be resolved by midweek.
 
To date, over 254,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.
March 22:  President Trump announced that the USNS Mercy will be deployed to Los Angeles.

March 22: FEMA issued guidance for tribal governments to seek federal assistance under the President’s emergency declaration.

March 23: President Trump signed an executive order invoking section 4512 of the Defense Production Act to prohibit the hoarding of vital medical supplies.

March 23: VP Pence announced:

313,000 Americans were tested for the coronavirus & received results.
 
FEMA established a supply chain stabilization task force so Americans get supplies they need.
 
HHS will have commercial labs prioritize testing for hospitalized patients.
March 23:  The White House Office of Science & Technology Policy announced a public-private consortium to:

Advance coronavirus research.
 
Provide access to computing technology and resources for researchers.
March 23: Attorney General Barr announced:

The Justice Department held a National Task Force meeting on hoarding and price gouging.
 
Each of the 93 U.S. Attorney General offices is designating a lead prosectuor to prevent hoarding.
March 23: President Trump announced HHS is working to designate essential medical supplies as “scarce” to prohibit hoarding of these items.

March 23: The Treasury Department announced it is working with the Federal Reserve to lend up to $300 billion to businesses and local governments.

March 24: President Trump announced the Army Corps of Engineers & the National Guard are constructing four hospitals and four medical centers in New York.

March 24: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for the state of Iowa related to the coronavirus outbreak.

March 24: Vice President Pence:

Confirmed FEMA sent New York 2,000 ventilators.
 
Announced individuals who have recently been in New York should self-quarantine for 14 days.
March 24: Dr. Deborah Birx announced the U.S. has conducted more coronavirus tests in the last week than South Korea has over the prior eight weeks.

March 24: The U.S. Army issued orders for three army hospitals to deploy their health care professionals to New York and Washington state, at the direction of Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy.

March 25: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the #coronavirus outbreak for:

Texas
 
Florida
 
North Carolina
March 25:  President Trump & Vice President Pence held a conference call with 140 non-profit organization leaders, including The Salvation Army & The Red Cross, to discuss coronavirus response efforts.

March 25: President Trump signed a bill reauthorizing The Older Americans Act, which supports senior citizens by providing meals, transportation, and other crucial services.

March 25: Vice President Pence

Held a conference call with equipment manufacturers to discuss on-going coronavirus response efforts.

Announced 432,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received results.
 
Confirmed 4,000 ventilators were delivered to New York.
March 25: Vice President Pence held discussions with multiple governors, including the Governor of Indiana & the Governor of Michigan

March 26: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

Illinois

New Jersey
 
Maryland
 
Missouri
March 26:  President Trump announced the USNS Comfort will depart for NYC on Saturday to assist in the coronavirus response – 3 weeks ahead of schedule!

March 26: President Trump participated in a video conference with the leaders of the G20 to discuss the global coronavirus response & the need for countries to share information and data on the spread of the virus.

March 26: President Trump held a phone call with Chinese President Xi Jinping to discuss the coronavirus.

March 26: Vice President Pence announced 552,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

March 26: Dr. Fauci announced the Federal Government is working with companies to speed up production of potential coronavirus vaccines while those drugs are still in the trial phase.

March 27: President Trump signed The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act into law.

March 27: President Trump signed a Defense Production Act memorandum ordering General Motors (GM) "to accept, perform, and prioritize federal contractors for ventilators.

March 27: President Trump signed an executive order allowing the military to activate members of the Selected Reserve and Ready Reserve to active duty to assist with the Federal response to the coronavirus.

March 27: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

South Carolina
 
Puerto Rico
March 27:  President Trump appointed Office of Trade and Manufacturing policy director Peter Navarro to serve as the Defense Production Act Policy Coordinator.

March 27: President Trump announced that 100,000 ventilators are projected to be manufactured in the next 100 days, three times the amount typically manufactured in one year.

March 27: President Trump announced that Boeing offered the use of three "Dreamlifter" cargo air crafts to transport medical supplies across the country.

March 27: Partnering with FEMA, the CDC, and the Coronavirus Task Force, Apple released a coronavirus app which allows users to screen for their symptoms.

March 27: President Trump spoke with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson about the global coronavirus response and committed to helping provide ventilators to the U.K. where possible.

March 27: Vice President Pence announced that 685,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their test results.

March 27: Emory University began enrolling participants for a phase one clinical trial, sponsored by the NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), of a new, potential coronavirus vaccine.

March 27: FEMA Administrator Pete Gaynor spoke to the director of each of the state's emergency operations about the state-led, federally-supported coronavirus response effort.

March 27: The USNS Mercy arrived in the port of Los Angeles to help relieve the strain on hospital facilities in Southern California.

March 28: President Trump visited Norfolk, VA to send off the USNS Comfort to New York City where it will help relieve the strain on local hospitals.

March 28: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

Guam
 
Michigan
 
Massachusetts
 
Kentucky
 
Colorado
March 28: President Trump spoke with New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis regarding the coronavirus response effort.

March 28: The CDC issued new guidance for residents of New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut to avoid non-essential domestic travel for 14 days to #StopTheSpread of the coronavirus within the U.S.

March 29: President Trump announced that CDC guidelines will be extended through April 30 to promote #socialdistancing and other measures to stop the spread of the #coronavirus.

March 29: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

Connecticut
 
Oregon
 
Georgia
 
Washington DC
March 29:  President Trump met with supply chain distributors including FedEx, Cardinal Health, and UPS to discuss ways to get state and local governments necessary medical supplies to combat the coronavirus.

March 29: President Trump congratulated the Army Corps of Engineers for having completed construction on a 2,900 bedroom temporary hospital at the Javits Center in New York.

March 29: President Trump tweeted his support for the FDA to expedite the approval process to approve mask sterilization equipment produced by Battelle.

March 29: President Trump announced the on-going study of 1,100 patients in New York being treated with Hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus.

March 29: President Trump directed the Treasury & Labor Departments to look at reinstating deductions of business expenses at restaurants, bars, and entertainment businesses to help the hospitality industry.

March 29: The first "Project Airbridge" shipment of medical supplies from abroad, organized by FEMA, landed at JFK airport, carrying 80 tons of masks, face shields, and other vital medical supplies.

March 29: President Trump announced that Cigna and Humana are waving co-pays for coronavirus treatment.

March 29: Vice President Pence sent a letter to hospital administrators requesting that hospitals across the country report their coronavirus data to the Federal Government in addition to state authorities.

March 29: Adm. Giroir announced that 894,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

March 29: HHS accepted 30 million doses of Hydroxychloroquine, donated by Sandoz, and one million doses of Chloroquine, donated by Bayer Pharmaceuticals, for clinical trials and possible treatment of coronavirus patients.

March 30: President Trump announced that one million Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

March 30: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

Alabama
 
Kansas
 
Pennsylvania
 
Rhode Island
March 30:  Secretary Azar announced that the FDA has approved Battelle’s N95 mask sanitization process for use to decontaminate tens of thousands of masks per day.

March 30: President Trump announced further private sector commitments to manufacture personal protective equipment  by MyPillow, Honeywell, Jockey, Procter & Gamble, and United Technologies.

March 30: President Trump announced, to date, FEMA has dedicated $1.3 billion to assist New York State’s coronavirus response.

March 30: President Trump announced “more than 14,000” National Guard service members have been activated to respond to the coronavirus outbreak.

March 30: President Trump spoke with the nation’s governors about their need for medical supplies.

March 30: President Trump announced that in the coming days the Federal Government will be delivering:

400 ventilators to Michigan
 
300 ventilators to New Jersey
 
150 ventilators to Louisiana
 
150 ventilators to Illinois
 
50 ventilators to Connecticut
March 30:  President Trump spoke to Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte of Italy and pledged to send $100 million of medical supplies to aid Italy’s battle against coronavirus.

March 30: Answering President Trump’s call for the private sector to join the fight against the #coronavirus, Ford Motor Company committed to producing 50,000 ventilators in the next 100 days.

March 30: On coronavirus testing, Secretary Azar announced that the U.S. is currently testing nearly 100,000 samples per day.

March 30: HHS took steps to accelerate a clinical trial of a potential coronavirus vaccine developed by Janssen Research & Development.

March 30: CMS announced new regulatory changes to cut red tape and give flexibility to America’s health care workers by relaxing hospital workforce regulations, expanding child care, meal, and laundry services for health care workers, expanding tele-health reimbursement, and more.

March 30: The USNS Comfort arrived in New York Harbor, providing more than 1,000 more hospital beds for patients without coronavirus, to relieve pressure on local hospitals.

March 30: The USNS Mercy began treating patients in Los Angeles.

March 31: President Trump officially issued “30 Days To Slow The Spread” guidance to mitigate the outbreak of coronavirus.

March 31: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

Ohio
 
Montana
March 31: President Trump participated in a conference call with executives of American Network Service Providers to promote connectivity amid social distancing.

March 31: President Trump announced that the federal government is stockpiling 10,000 ventilators to be urgently distributed as needed once the coronavirus pandemic hits its peak in the U.S.

March 31: President Trump announced that the Treasury Department and SBA are rapidly mobilizing money from the CARES Act’s $349 billion paycheck protection program, with the program set to be “up and running” by April 3.

March 31: President Trump spoke to Michigan Governor Whitmer about the state’s need for ventilators.

March 31: President Trump announced the Army Corps of Engineers & FEMA will construct:

8 facilities with 50,000 bed capacity in California
 
A field hospital with 250 bed capacity in Michigan
 
2 field hospitals in Louisiana with 500 bed capacity
 
An alternative care sight in New Orleans with a 3,000 bed capacity
March 31: President Trump spoke with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan about the international effort to defeat the coronavirus and support the global economy.

March 31: President Trump and the First Lady spoke with their Majesties King Felipe VI and Queen Letizia of Spain about efforts to combat the coronavirus.

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 10 states now have access to federal funding for The National Guard to respond to the coronavirus outbreak.

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 17,000 National Guard Servicemen have been activated across the country to assist in the coronavirus response.

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 1.1 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

March 31: Adm. Giroir & Surgeon General Adams issued an open letter to the U.S. health care community about how to optimize the use of ventilators.

March 31: The FDA issued an emergency use authorization for a two-minute coronavirus antibody test developed by Bodysphere Inc.

March 31: The Treasury Department and IRS launched the employee retention credit, created by the CARES Act to incentivize businesses to keep their employees on payroll, and said businesses can begin using it.

March 31: The VA announced that it had expanded virtual services to veterans, continuing to provide care while limiting in-person interactions that could potentially harm vulnerable populations at VA facilities.

April 1: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

North Dakota
 
Hawaii
 
The Northern Mariana Islands
April 1: President Trump spoke to Walmart CEO Doug McMillon about the need to procure gowns for hospitals

April 1: President Trump spoke to military families whose relocation or reunion with loved ones was impacted by the coronavirus.

April 1: President Trump announced that the construction & refurbishing of two additional hospital ships like the USNS Mercy and USNS Comfort are being considered.

April 1: Vice President Pence announced that 1.2 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 1: The White House, HHS, and the FDA worked with Senator Rob Portman to acquire and authorize for use over two million gowns donated to the Strategic National Stockpile by Cardinal Health.

April 1: Dr. Birx announced that the White House issued a challenge to universities and states to develop ELISA, or Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assays, tests to detect coronavirus antibodies in larger communities more quickly.

April 1: The Treasury Department released FAQs to help small and medium businesses understand the paid sick and family leave tax credits now offered under the Families First Coronavirus Response Act.

April 1: The Department of Labor posted a temporary rule to implement the Families First Coronavirus Response Act in order to provide paid sick and family leave.

April 1: In New York City, the USNS Comfort began treating its first patients.

April 1: The VA opened its East Orange, NJ medical center to serve non-veteran coronavirus patients to assist the state and FEMA in their response to coronavirus.

April 1: The Treasury Department announced that Social Security recipients, including senior citizens, disabled Americans, and low-income Americans who do not file tax returns will have their coronavirus relief payments directly deposited into their bank accounts.

April 2: President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to direct 3M to produce more N95 respirator masks.

April 2: President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to help 6 companies (General Electric, Hill-Rom Holdings, Medtronic, ResMed, eRoyal Philips, and Vyaire Medical) get the supplies they need to make ventilators.

April 2: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the #coronavirus outbreak for:

Virginia
 
Tennessee
 
The U.S. Virgin Islands
April 2: President Trump discussed the production of ventilators with GM CEO Mary Barra.

April 2: President Trump announced that The Javits Center temporary hospital will be converted into a coronavirus hospital.

April 2: President Trump announced that the Department of Defense will be establishing 48 more ICU beds in New York.

April 2: President Trump announced that the Federal Government will be establishing a coronavirus hospital in Louisiana and Texas.

April 2: President Trump took an additional coronavirus test and tested negative.

April 2: President Trump ordered the Federal Government to cover the costs of all National Guard operations in states with recently approved disaster declarations.

April 2: President Trump sent Senator Chuck Schumer a letter debunking false claims made against the Trump Administration’s coronavirus response.

April 2: Secretary Mnuchin and Small Business Administrator Jovita Carranza announced that the Paycheck Protection Program, created by the CARES Act to provide $350 billion in loans to small businesses, will be launched tomorrow.

April 2: Secretary Mnuchin announced that the first relief payments will be dispersed within two weeks.

April 2: Vice President Pence announced that 1.3 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 2: Vice President Pence announced that all Blue Cross Blue Shield Members will be waiving out of pocket costs for coronavirus treatment.

April 2: Rear Adm. Polowczyk announced FEMA’s Supply Chain Stabilization Task Force has delivered:

27.1 million surgical masks
 
19.5 N95 million respirator masks
 
22.4 million surgical gloves
 
5.2 million face shields
 
Over 7,600 ventilators
April 2: First Lady Melania Trump had a phone call with Mrs. Sophie Grégoire Trudeau of Canada, who is recovering from the coronavirus.

April 2: The Federal Transit Administration (FTA) announced $25 billion in federal funding to support public transportation systems in response to the coronavirus.

April 2: The Department of Justice and HHS distributed 192,000 N95 respirator masks confiscated from price gougers to health care workers in New York and New Jersey.

April 2: The FDA approved the first coronavirus antibody test, developed by Cellex.

April 2: The FDA issued new guidance to increase the supply of blood donations, reducing the deferral period for gay men from 12 months to 3 months.

April 2: The Department of Education donated 5,760 N95 respirator masks discovered in storage to aid the fight against the coronavirus.

April 2: Secretary Pompeo announced that the State Department has now brought home 30,000 Americans stranded overseas as a result of coronavirus-related travel restrictions.

April 2: April 2: HHS announced it was relaxing enforcement of HIPAA violations to encourage health care providers to share coronavirus data and information with federal and state health care officials.

April 2: The Trump Administration issued recommendations to nursing homes to help mitigate the spread of coronavirus.

April 2: HUD announced it was immediately making $3 billion of CARES Act funding available to help America’s low-income families and most vulnerable citizens across the nation.

April 2: The Energy Department announced it would immediately make 30 million barrels of the strategic petroleum reserve’s (SPR’s) oil storage capacity available to struggling U.S. oil producers.

April 3: President Trump announced new voluntary CDC guidelines that all Americans wear non-medical, fabric or cloth face masks to prevent asymptomatic spread of coronavirus.

April 3: The President met with energy execs from Phillips 66, Devon Energy, Continental Resources, Hilcorp Energy, Occidental Petroleum, The American Petroleum Institute, The Energy Transfer Partners, Chevron, & Exxon Mobil to discuss coronavirus’ impact on the energy industry.

April 3: President Trump spoke with French President Emmanuel Macron to discuss convening the five permanent members of the UN Security Council in an effort to defeat the coronavirus and discuss its impact on the world.

April 3: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

New Hampshire
 
West Virginia
 
Indiana
 
Arkansas
 
Oregon
April 3: President Trump signed a Presidential Memorandum blocking the export of N95 and other respirator masks, surgical masks, PPE gloves, and surgical gloves to ensure they are available in the U.S. – designating them as “scarce” under the Defense Production Act.

April 3: President Trump announced that Anthem will waive co-pays for coronavirus treatment for 60 days.

April 3: President Trump announced that uninsured Americans will have their coronavirus treatment covered, using funding from the CARES Act.

April 3: Trump Administration officials spoke to the directors of the two largest health care providers in Louisiana, Ochsner and LCMC Health, to discuss their need for medical supplies.

April 3: President Trump directed FEMA to send Ochsner Surgical Gowns.

April 3: President Trump announced that 9,000 retired Army medical personnel have volunteered and are assisting the federal response to the coronavirus.

April 3: President Trump announced that the DOJ and HHS have together secured:

200,000 N95 masks
 
130,000 surgical masks
 
600,000 gloves
from hoarders and have distributed the supplies to health care workers.

April 3: Vice President Pence announced that 1.4 million coronavirus tests have been completed to date.

April 3: Vice President Pence announced that 18,000 machines are already available across the country to administer Abbott 15 Minute Coronavirus Tests, with another 1,200 soon to be distributed to states.

April 3: Vice President Pence announced that a Project Airbridge flight landed in Columbus, Ohio with medical supplies.

April 3: Secretary Azar announced a public-private partnership with Oracle to collect crowd-sourced data on coronavirus therapeutic treatments.

April 3: The SBA launched the Paycheck Protection Program for small businesses impacted by the coronavirus pandemic, issuing more than 17,500 loans valued at $5.4 billion.

April 3: The Army Corps of Engineers is working with states to assess 750 requests for temporary hospital facilities, having completed 673 already.

April 3: The FDA announced it would coordinate the national effort to develop blood-related therapies for COVID-19.

April 3: The Defense Department’s Joint Acquisition Task Force launched a new portal giving the private sector the ability to submit information and solutions to the DoD.

April 3: The State Department announced that they have awarded contracts for 8 new medical facilities, totaling 9,693 new beds.

April 3: The Department of Labor issued guidance to help employers reduce their use of N95 respirators, freeing up supply for the coronavirus response.

April 3: HUD announced it is making $200 million in Indian housing block grants for Indian Tribes under the CARES Act.

April 3: EPA Administrator Wheeler held a call with retailers and marketplace platforms to discuss ways to protect consumers from fake disinfectants.

April 3: First Lady Melania Trump held a phone call with Mrs. Brigitte Macron of France to discuss the coronavirus response.

April 4: President Trump announced that 1,000 members of the Defense Department’s Medical Corps will be deployed to New York to assist in the fight against coronavirus.

April 4: President Trump spoke to commissioners of major league sports organizations including the MLB, NFL, & NBA, recognizing what the leagues, teams, and players are doing in their communities to combat coronavirus.

April 4: President Trump tweeted encouragement to American children unable to start their Little League baseball season on time due to coronavirus.

April 4: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

Nebraska
 
Wisconsin
 
Maine
 
Nevada
April 4: President Trump announced that he was considering a second coronavirus task force focused on the economy.

April 4: President Trump urged PM Modi of India to allow Hydroxychloroquine to be shipped to the United States.

April 4: President Trump announced that the U.S. government has repatriated over 40,000 Americans from 75 countries.

April 4: Vice President Pence spoke to Governors of New York, New Jersey, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, and Maryland.

April 4: FEMA obligated $44 million to Iowa under the state’s major disaster declaration to combat the coronavirus.

April 5: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

South Dakota
 
New Mexico
 
Oklahoma
 
Mississippi
April 5: President Trump announced that by Tuesday, 3,000 military and medical personnel will have deployed to New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut to assist in the coronavirus response effort.

April 5: President Trump announced that the Trump Administration will be sending New York 600,000 N95 masks tomorrow, including 200,000 to Suffolk County alone.

April 5: President Trump announced that the Administration will soon send:

300 ventilators to Michigan
 
200 ventilators to Louisiana
 
600 ventilators to Illinois
 
100 ventilators to Massachusetts
 
500 ventilators to New Jersey
April 5: President Trump announced the establishment of a federal coronavirus medical station in Washington D.C.

April 5: President Trump announced that Washington has returned 400 ventilators to the strategic national stockpile.

April 5: President Trump announced that 1.67 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 5: President Trump announced that the government has stockpiled 29 million doses of Hydroxychloroquine

April 5: Dr. Birx announced that testing in the New York metro area, New Jersey, Louisiana, and Washington has exceeded the testing rate of Spain and Italy

April 5: Adm. Polowczyk announced that three Project Airbridge flights of medical supplies landed across the US today carrying:

1 million gowns
 
2.8 million surgical masks
 
11.8 million gloves
April 5: Adm. Polowczyk spoke to top health officials from states severely impacted by the coronavirus to discuss the supply chain.

April 5: Secretary Wilkie announced that the VA is making 1,500 beds available at VA hospitals to help states and localities across the country.

April 5: Vice President Pence spoke to governors from states severely impacted by the coronavirus, including Michigan, Louisiana, and Illinois.

April 5: FEMA and The Army Corps of Engineers completed renovations at the McCormick Place Pavilion in Chicago, providing an additional 500 hospital beds for the city

April 6: President Trump announced an agreement with 3M to produce and import 55.5 million N95 masks each month for the next three months.

April 6: President Trump held a call with CEOs from pharmaceutical and bio-tech companies to discuss potential coronavirus therapeutics.

April 6: President Trump had a “very friendly” phone call with former Vice President Joe Biden to discuss the coronavirus.

April 6: President Trump announced that 1.79 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 6: President Trump approved Governor Murphy’s request to allow New Jersey patients aboard the USNS Comfort.

April 6: President Trump approved Governor Cuomo’s request to allow the treatment of coronavirus patients on the USNS Comfort.

April 6: President Trump announced that CVS will open two new drive-thru coronavirus testing sites in Georgia and Rhode Island. Both will use Abbott’s rapid coronavirus test.

April 6: President Trump announced that the FDA authorized Inovio’s potential coronavirus vaccine for a clinical trial, wile 10 potential coronavirus therapeutic agents are in “active trials” with another 15 potential therapeutics in plans for clinical trials.

April 6: President Trump praised the work of the private sector, including Apple and Salesforce, who have agreed to donate personal protective equipment to help defeat the coronavirus.

April 6: President Trump announced that The Army Corps of Engineers is building 22 field hospitals and alternative care sites in 18 states.

April 6: President Trump announced that 8,450 hospital beds and 8,000 ventilators have been deployed across the country from federal stockpiles.

April 6: Vice President Pence announced that to date $4.1 billion has been allocated to states under federal disaster declarations.

April 6: Vice President Pence announced that 21,000 National Guard Servicemen have been activated across the country to assist in the fight against coronavirus.

April 6: VP Pence announced that thanks to California’s donation of 500 ventilators, the federal government will send:

200 ventilators to MD
 
100 ventilators to DE
 
100 ventilators to NV
 
50 ventilators to DC
 
50 ventilators to Guam & the Northern Mariana Islands
Apil 6: The CDC began publishing a new, data-centered coronavirus surveillance report on coronavirus.gov.

April 6: HHS announced an additional $186 million in CDC funding for state and local jurisdictions combatting the coronavirus.

April 6: HHS announced it will be purchasing 15 minute coronavirus tests from Abbott for state, territorial, and tribal labs and for the Strategic National Stockpile.

April 6: The Department of Education announced a streamlined process making it easier for states to use federal education funding for distance learning during the coronavirus outbreak.

April 7: President Trump participated in a conference call with banking executives to discuss how to best deliver financial aid and technical assistance to small businesses.

April 7: President Trump announced the SBA has processed “more than $70 billion” in loans to help small businesses as part of the Paycheck Protection Program.

April 7: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for Minnesota related to the coronavirus outbreak.

April 7: President Trump announced that in addition to the 8,675 ventilators in the strategic national stockpile, the federal government will be acquiring 110,000 ventilators in the next three months to be distributed to states in need.

April 7: President Trump announced that 1.87 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 7: President Trump announced his intent to ask Congress for an additional $250 billion for the Paycheck Protection Program to loan to small businesses.

April 7: Vice President Pence participated in a conference call with over 500 business owners to discuss their needs amid the coronavirus response effort.

April 7: CMS Administrator Verma announced that CMS will make available an additional $30 billion in grants this week for health care organizations with increased operating costs due to the coronavirus.

April 7: The State Department announced an additional $225 million in health, humanitarian, and economic assistance to reduce the transmission of the coronavirus around the world.

April 7: As part of Project Airbridge, UPS and FEMA began shipments of 25 flights with more than three million pounds of medical supplies.

April 7: The Department of Transportation finalized a requirement that airlines who receive assistance under the CARES Act continue flights to destinations they were serving before the outbreak, ensuring commercial flights are available.

April 7: The EPA distributed over 1,100 N95 masks to the California Office of Emergency Services.

April 8: President Trump spoke to over 10,000 faith leaders & more than 3,000 state, local, and tribal officials to discuss the coronavirus response effort.

April 8: Secretary Pompeo announced that since January, over 50,000 Americans have been repatriated by 90 countries in over 480 flights.

April 8: Under the DPA, HHS announced a $646.7M contract with Philips to produce 2,500 ventilators for the Strategic National Stockpile by the end of May, and a total of 43,000 by December.

April 8: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for Vermont related to the coronavirus outbreak.

April 8: President Trump announced that a Project Airbridge shipment of protective gowns landed in Dallas, Texas.

April 8: President Trump announced that 10 drugs to potentially be used against the coronavirus are currently in clinical trial.

April 8: President Trump thanked Indian PM Modi for allowing a shipment of the life-saving drug hydroxychloroquine to be released to the U.S.

April 8: Vice President Pence announced:

$98B in forgivable loans were disbursed through the Paycheck Protection Program
 
27,000 National Guard service members were activated across the country to assist in the coronavirus response
April 8: The CDC issued new guidance for how essential and critical workers who have been exposed to the coronavirus can return to work, with precautions.

April 8: Four additional flights as part of Project Airbridge landed across the country, delivering PPE and other medical supplies.

April 8: Customs and Borders Protection announced with FEMA that it will detain shipments of PPE in order to keep critical medical supplies within the U.S. for domestic use.

April 8: HHS announced an agreement with DuPont and FedEx to rapidly manufacture and deliver 2.25M new Tyvek Protective Suits to the Strategic National Stockpile over the next five weeks.

April 8: HHS expanded telehealth services for Native Americans through The Indian Health Service.

April 8: HHS authorized pharmacists to order and administer coronavirus tests, further expanding the availability of testing.

April 8: HHS awarded $1.3B from the CARES Act to 1,387 health centers in all 50 states, 8 territories, and the District of Columbia to fight coronavirus.

April 8: CMS issued updated guidance based on CDC guidelines to protect patients and health care workers in hospitals from the coronavirus.

April 8: The USDA announced its approval of Arizona's & California’s request for food stamp recipients to purchase food online, allowing these recipients to purchase groceries for delivery.

April 8: The VA announced that it has begun using funding from the CARES Act to pay overtime, hire new staff, and purchase supplies including PPE, beds, and pharmaceuticals.

April 9: President Trump spoke with mental health advocates from across the country to discuss their work amid the coronavirus outbreak.

April 9: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

Alaska
 
Idaho
April 9: President Trump announced that 24 Project Airbridge flights have been completed to date, with an additional 49 flights scheduled.

April 9: President Trump announced that there are currently 19 potential coronavirus therapies being tested and another 26 potential therapies in active planning for clinical trials.

April 9: President Trump announced that, to date, over 2 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

April 9: Vice President Pence announced that $125B in Paycheck Protection Program forgivable loans has been approved to date.

April 9: Vice President Pence announced that a total of 29,000 National Guard service members have been activated across the country to assist in the coronavirus response.

April 9: Vice President Pence announced that to date 4,100 military medical personnel have been deployed to New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut.

April 9: The Treasury Department announced that it extended over 300 tax filing, payment, and administrative deadlines to give relief to taxpayers.

April 9: Working with the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve announced new lending programs providing up to $2.3T in loans to businesses and state & local governments.

April 9: HHS announced it would relax enforcement of HIPPAA for pharmacies and other organizations that are working at coronavirus testing sites, helping these groups focus on testing.

April 9: Secretary of Education DeVos announced that $6.3B in CARES Act funding will be immediately distributed to colleges and universities to provide cash grants to students affected by the coronavirus.

April 9: Secretary of Education DeVos announced that $6.3B in CARES Act funding will be immediately distributed to colleges and universities to provide cash grants to students affected by the coronavirus

April 9: The EPA announced that more than 11,500 pieces of PPE have been transferred to FEMA, which will be later transferred to state and local agencies across New England combating the coronavirus.

April 9: The USDA launched the Pandemic Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) Program in Michigan, which will help feed children eligible for USDA school lunch programs who are now home during the coronavirus outbreak.

April 9: The USDA announced relief for farmers across the country by giving borrowers 12 months to repay marketing assistance loans (MAL), helping protect farmers from being forced to sell crops to make loan payments.

April 9: CMS temporarily suspended a number of regulations so that hospitals, clinics, and other health care providers can book the number of staff to confront the coronavirus

April 10: President Trump announced that 60 mask sterilization systems, with the ability to clean over 80,000 masks approximately 20 times, will be sent to 10 cities.

April 10:  President Trump spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss the global coronavirus response and the global energy market.

April 10: President Trump announced that a field hospital in Seattle will be leaving, as Washington State’s coronavirus outbreak becomes more manageable.

April 10: President Trump announced that his administration is working to bring blood-based serology tests to market “as quickly as possible” so Americans can determine if they have had the coronavirus.

April 10: President Trump announced that he will be establishing an “Opening Our Country Council” with more details coming early next week.

April 10: President Trump signed a Presidential Memorandum to facilitate the supply of medical equipment and other humanitarian relief to Italy.

April 10: Dr. Fauci spoke to Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson and Wyoming Governor Mark Gordon to discuss coronavirus mitigation in those states.

April 10: Vice President Pence, CDC Director Redfield, & Surgeon General Adams spoke to over 400 leaders of the African American community, including Jesse Jackson, NAACP representatives, & the National Black Nurses Association to discuss the impact of the coronavirus.

April 10: Vice President Pence spoke to Colorado Governor Jared Polis about the specific needs of his state’s battle against the coronavirus.

April 10: Vice President Pence announced that more than 2.1M coronavirus tests have been completed to date.

April 10: Vice President Pence announced that:

29,600 National Guard Troops have been activated
 
4,700 active duty medical personnel have been deployed to nine states
April 10: Vice President Pence announced that to date, 26 Project Airbridge flights have landed in the U.S. with PPE, with four flights scheduled to land today with 250,000 gowns and 25M pairs of gloves.

April 10: HHS began delivering $30B in relief funding to health care providers, part of the $100B allocated to health care providers by the CARES Act.

April 10: The FDA approved an emergency authorization for a blood purification device to treat coronavirus patients.

April 10: Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao announced $1B for Amtrak to continue rail service and respond to the spread of the coronavirus.

April 10: The Treasury Department launched a web portal to help Americans who did not file tax returns receive their coronavirus relief payments under the CARES Act.

April 10: The Treasury Department announced it will launch a new “get my payment” app where Americans can enter their direct deposit information to get coronavirus relief payments quicker.

April 10: The VA deployed medical staffers to New Orleans to help “surge” personnel in the area, which is currently being heavily impacted by the coronavirus.

April 11: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for Wyoming related to the coronavirus outbreak, marking the first time in U.S. history a President has declared that a major disaster exists in all 50 states.

April 11: The DoD announced it is using The Defense Production Act to get the private sector to produce 39 million N95 masks within 90 days, a $133M investment.

April 11: Three Project Airbridge flights landed in Chicago, Illinois, delivering over 62 million gloves.

April 11: The Department of Justice announced it is monitoring state and local social distancing regulations to ensure religious organizations are not unfairly targeted.

April 11: The USDA added Florida & Idaho to the food stamp online pilot program, allowing food stamp recipients to purchase food online.

April 11: CMS expanded the requirements that private health insurers provide free coronavirus testing, saying that this includes anti-body testing and costs related to coronavirus testing, like emergency room or urgent care visits.

April 12: A deal brokered by President Trump was announced between The OPEC countries, Russia, and the U.S. to cut production and stabilize the oil market amid dual disruptions from coronavirus and the price war between Saudi Arabia & Russia.

April 12: The FDA issued an emergency authorization to devices from Advanced Sterilization Products, which can decontaminate approximately 4 million N95 respirators each day.

April 12: The FBI uncovered an international fraud scheme related to the attempted purchase of 39 million N95 masks by a Service Employees International Union Affiliate.

April 13: President Trump announced that new coronavirus infection rates remained “flat” over the weekend across the country.

April 13: President Trump announced that HHS is signing five new contracts for ventilators with GE, Hillrom, Medtronic, ResMed, & Vyaire, which will be added to the Strategic National Stockpile.

April 13: President Trump announced that nearly 3 million coronavirus tests have been completed, with roughly 150,000 new tests each day.

April 13: President Trump announced that multiple advisory committees, including a “faith leaders committee” will be formed to consult on the reopening of the country.

April 13: President Trump and Vice President Pence met with representatives from Abbott to discuss increasing the production of cartridges for Abbott’s rapid coronavirus test machines.

April 13: Vice President Pence and members of the Coronavirus Task Force led a conference call with 48 governors.

April 13: Vice President Pence announced that there are currently just under 7,000 ventilators in the Strategic National Stockpile, and that no one has been denied a ventilator who needed one.

April 13: Dr. Fauci participated in a meeting with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to discuss the impact of the coronavirus on the African American community.

April 13: Adm. Polowczyk announced that 37 Project Airbridge flights have been completed, with another 43 scheduled.

April 13: 5 flights landed across the country carrying shipments of PPE as part of Project Airbridge.

April 13: The U.S. government now has 28 million doses of hydroxychloroquine stockpiled.

April 13: The Treasury Department announced that 80 million Americans will receive economic impact payments in their bank accounts within the week.

April 13: The Treasury Department launched a new web portal which will qui
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 05:02:16 am
Demon-rats have removed the LINK.....or I would have posted it.  Sorry for the length, it helps MAKE the point. 
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 05:13:09 am
In my opinion, Trump mishandled the COVID mess by not being empathetic enough. 

He could have spared us some of the lockdowns by helping people see we were working together.

Yes, yes, yes......morons pelosi and uppy chucky shcumer would have fought him....but he would have been seen as trying to do the best for America. 

He does not like being challenged and get's combative.

That was not the place for it.

Had he shown a little humility...he'd be in the WH right now.

I don't apologize....that is the way I see it.

I feel like he let me down.

ARE YOU ROMNEY?   STATES RIGHTS.  GOVERNORS are in control, not federal POTUS TRUMP. He offered help, DEMON-RATS TURNED HIM DOWN.  How can you be so messed up in your thinking?  Speaks to TRUMP ENVY AGAIN.  Each speech, rally, he spent a good 10 minutes..THANKING EVERYONE ELSE, FOR THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE.  None of which would have gotten done except under his leadership.   VOTER FRAUD by demon-rats is why POTUS TRUMP is not in office right now.  3 equal powers,  2 AGAINST AMERICA and you think it is POTUS TRUMPS FAULT?  WHAT ABOUT MIKE PENCE?  Supreme Court? EVEN PENTAGON/MILITARY against America.  Judges who won't hear about, all the fraud. Even that biden admitted it. obama was put into office the same way.  FRAUD. IF you can't see, hear any truth, than you have TRUMP ENVY.  There is no logic to your post.
WWW.MAGAPILL.COM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0&t=3s
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 05:15:02 am
POTUS TRUMP TELLING STATES TO OPEN UP....allow people to attend church, kids to go to school.  HE WAS NOT FOR ANY LOCK DOWNS.  Did you never listen to him speak? 

I think this is his last rally, before Nov. 3d.  It was 10-29-20  Florida is OPEN, but it is republican governor.  POTUS TRUMP thanks everyone and gives others credit. THAT IS HUMILITY. Since, MEDIA will never say anything,  nice or kind about POTUS TRUMP,  he HAS to tell people about his good works. He says, NEVER LOCK DOWN.

WWW.MAGAPILL.COM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwGUwVW-UcM
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: MOD4 on May 03, 2021, 01:49:15 pm
@LegalAmerican please refrain from attacking TBR members. Specifically:

Quote
ARE YOU ROMNEY?

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How can you be so messed up in your thinking?

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IF you can't see, hear any truth, than you have TRUMP ENVY.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on May 03, 2021, 01:53:24 pm
In my opinion, Trump mishandled the COVID mess by not being empathetic enough. 

He could have spared us some of the lockdowns by helping people see we were working together.

Yes, yes, yes......morons pelosi and uppy chucky shcumer would have fought him....but he would have been seen as trying to do the best for America. 

He does not like being challenged and get's combative.

That was not the place for it.

Had he shown a little humility...he'd be in the WH right now.

I don't apologize....that is the way I see it.

I feel like he let me down.
How would he have been in the WH in any event if winning the election couldn't put him there?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: libertybele on May 03, 2021, 02:33:36 pm
Trump handled the Covid mess very well and saved lives.  He shut down travel into this country,, met with companies outside the govt and expedited manufacturing of PPE and he even sent in a hospital ship into NY that barely got used.  He met and talked with governors from various different states and gave them what they needed and bypassed govt red tape in order to do do.

He held daily press conferences to keep the public informed.  IMHO his biggest mistake was bringing in Fauci who helped to inflict the virus on us.

He advocated for hydroxycloronique and Fauci criticized him...later it was used to help save lives.

Trump didn't let us down, the WHO, CDC, and Fauci let us down.  The WHO took their sweet time in even declaring a pandemic.

IMHO what cost Trump the election was not putting a stop to the riots when they began and Ronna not ensuring measures were in place to combat the Dem corruption!

The investigations and audits weren't necessarily to overturn the election but to ensure election and ballot integrity....you know adhering to that pesky document called the Constitution.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on May 03, 2021, 02:50:01 pm
Trump handled the Covid mess very well and saved lives.  He shut down travel into this country,, met with companies outside the govt and expedited manufacturing of PPE and he even sent in a hospital ship into NY that barely got used.  He met and talked with governors from various different states and gave them what they needed and bypassed govt red tape in order to do do.

He held daily press conferences to keep the public informed.  IMHO his biggest mistake was bringing in Fauci who helped to inflict the virus on us.

He advocated for hydroxycloronique and Fauci criticized him...later it was used to help save lives.

Trump didn't let us down, the WHO, CDC, and Fauci let us down.  The WHO took their sweet time in even declaring a pandemic.

IMHO what cost Trump the election was not putting a stop to the riots when they began and Ronna not ensuring measures were in place to combat the Dem corruption!

The investigations and audits weren't necessarily to overturn the election but to ensure election and ballot integrity....you know adhering to that pesky document called the Constitution.
Well said. I have never seen an administration handle a national emergency as well as Trump handled Covid.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 03, 2021, 04:04:23 pm
In my opinion, Trump mishandled the COVID mess by not being empathetic enough.  He could have spared us some of the lockdowns by helping people see we were working together.

How quickly you forget @HikerGuy83  The initial projections were for over 2 million dead Americans. How could Trump have been more "empathetic" than closing our borders to China and parts of Europe and locking down to flatten the curve and not further overwhelm our hospital system --- which as you recall, were loading bodies into ice trucks outside the entrance doors.

Trump went on to put together the most formidable alliance between our military, government agencies and the private sector known in peacetime to build annex hospitals and produce and distribute PPEs, ventilators, testing kits, therapeutics (one that would save his own life) and three vaccines.

I'm of the opinion that the best damn empathy is synchronizing behemoth bureaucracies and getting real, lifesaving help to American citizens at breathtaking record speed.

If you're unhappy with some of the lockdowns, write your Governor.  It was actually these souls who closed their states and decided (or will decide) when to reopen them.  President Trump was encouraging reopening since Easter 2020.


Yes, yes, yes......morons pelosi and uppy chucky shcumer would have fought him....but he would have been seen as trying to do the best for America. 

What?  Your statement makes zero sense.


He does not like being challenged and get's combative.  That was not the place for it.

You're absolutely, incredibly wrong.  This was the precise place for it.  No other President could have accomplished what President Trump did ... they'd have been paralyzed and overwhelmed.  Only Trump has the talent to motivate and manage in his wheelhouse.  I wish I could have been a fly on the wall for the times President Trump said: "Find me someone who can" to Vice President Pence and every military officer, CDC/FDA bureaucrat and CEO who told the President "Can't do it, sir".

So, tell me HikerGuy, just where did the President fail you?





Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 03, 2021, 04:10:44 pm
President Trump won a decisive reelection on Nov 3, 2020. The problem for President Trump was not the riots or COVID --- it was the massive, coordinated voter and election fraud that stole the victory --- and the Pence, McConnell and McCarthy trifecta that took turns driving the getaway car.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: libertybele on May 03, 2021, 04:16:28 pm
Well said. I have never seen an administration handle a national emergency as well as Trump handled Covid.

That's been my feeling; whether or not you liked the guy, his handling of the pandemic was excellent in my books! Trump got the job done and without wasting time.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: libertybele on May 03, 2021, 04:18:14 pm
President Trump won a decisive reelection on Nov 3, 2020. The problem for President Trump was not the riots or COVID --- it was the massive, coordinated voter and election fraud that stole the victory --- and the Pence, McConnell and McCarthy trifecta that took turns driving the getaway car.

Absolutely!! It's hard to fathom that others refuse to acknowledge that.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 03, 2021, 04:33:36 pm
President Trump won a decisive reelection on Nov 3, 2020. The problem for President Trump was not the riots or COVID --- it was the massive, coordinated voter and election fraud that stole the victory --- and the Pence, McConnell and McCarthy trifecta that took turns driving the getaway car.

And THIS is why the AZ Audit is so important, and why the Rats and RINOs are working overtime to scuttle it.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: DB on May 03, 2021, 05:29:22 pm
@Cyber Liberty

https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/05/03/why-is-a-spy-plane-circling-the-site-of-arizona-election-audit-24-7/
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 03, 2021, 05:51:55 pm
@Cyber Liberty

https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/05/03/why-is-a-spy-plane-circling-the-site-of-arizona-election-audit-24-7/

This is the image of the tracking of the plane, FTA:

(https://i0.wp.com/americanconservativemovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Arizona-Audit-Surveillance.jpg?w=1024&ssl=1)

The blue line with all the zig-zags is not centered over Veterans Memorial Colosseum!  Look to the right of the flight pattern, there is an intersection of I-10 and I-17.  The Colosseum is to the north and east of that intersection.  I have no idea what the plane is circling.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: DB on May 03, 2021, 08:38:33 pm
This is the image of the tracking of the plane, FTA:

(https://i0.wp.com/americanconservativemovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Arizona-Audit-Surveillance.jpg?w=1024&ssl=1)

The blue line with all the zig-zags is not centered over Veterans Memorial Colosseum!  Look to the right of the flight pattern, there is an intersection of I-10 and I-17.  The Colosseum is to the north and east of that intersection.  I have no idea what the plane is circling.

All those jagged corners don't make sense either. The plane can't turn on a dime.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 08:55:15 pm
Trump handled the Covid mess very well and saved lives.  He shut down travel into this country,, met with companies outside the govt and expedited manufacturing of PPE and he even sent in a hospital ship into NY that barely got used.  He met and talked with governors from various different states and gave them what they needed and bypassed govt red tape in order to do do.

He held daily press conferences to keep the public informed.  IMHO his biggest mistake was bringing in Fauci who helped to inflict the virus on us.

He advocated for hydroxycloronique and Fauci criticized him...later it was used to help save lives.

Trump didn't let us down, the WHO, CDC, and Fauci let us down.  The WHO took their sweet time in even declaring a pandemic.

IMHO what cost Trump the election was not putting a stop to the riots when they began and Ronna not ensuring measures were in place to combat the Dem corruption!

The investigations and audits weren't necessarily to overturn the election but to ensure election and ballot integrity....you know adhering to that pesky document called the Constitution.


Thank you and correct.  Why don't some people....KNOW? 

https://rumble.com/embed/vcmcjz/?pub=4
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 08:57:31 pm
President Trump won a decisive reelection on Nov 3, 2020. The problem for President Trump was not the riots or COVID --- it was the massive, coordinated voter and election fraud that stole the victory --- and the Pence, McConnell and McCarthy trifecta that took turns driving the getaway car.

YES.  CORRECT.  100 million + votes for POTUS TRUMP.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 09:01:57 pm
How quickly you forget @HikerGuy83  The initial projections were for over 2 million dead Americans. How could Trump have been more "empathetic" than closing our borders to China and parts of Europe and locking down to flatten the curve and not further overwhelm our hospital system --- which as you recall, were loading bodies into ice trucks outside the entrance doors.

Trump went on to put together the most formidable alliance between our military, government agencies and the private sector known in peacetime to build annex hospitals and produce and distribute PPEs, ventilators, testing kits, therapeutics (one that would save his own life) and three vaccines.

I'm of the opinion that the best damn empathy is synchronizing behemoth bureaucracies and getting real, lifesaving help to American citizens at breathtaking record speed.

If you're unhappy with some of the lockdowns, write your Governor.  It was actually these souls who closed their states and decided (or will decide) when to reopen them.  President Trump was encouraging reopening since Easter 2020.


What?  Your statement makes zero sense.


You're absolutely, incredibly wrong.  This was the precise place for it.  No other President could have accomplished what President Trump did ... they'd have been paralyzed and overwhelmed.  Only Trump has the talent to motivate and manage in his wheelhouse.  I wish I could have been a fly on the wall for the times President Trump said: "Find me someone who can" to Vice President Pence and every military officer, CDC/FDA bureaucrat and CEO who told the President "Can't do it, sir".

So, tell me HikerGuy, just where did the President fail you?


 :hands: :hands: :hands:
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 09:05:12 pm
@LegalAmerican please refrain from attacking TBR members. Specifically:

MOd 4.  Asking if someone is ROMNEY is the height of attack?  I have read people post F WORD to others, which I do not do.  Asking is someone's thinking is messed up, is an issue too?  HAVE YOU READ SOME OF THE POSTS ON HERE?


Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: PeteS in CA on May 03, 2021, 11:30:46 pm
This is the image of the tracking of the plane, FTA:

(https://i0.wp.com/americanconservativemovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Arizona-Audit-Surveillance.jpg?w=1024&ssl=1)

The blue line with all the zig-zags is not centered over Veterans Memorial Colosseum!  Look to the right of the flight pattern, there is an intersection of I-10 and I-17.  The Colosseum is to the north and east of that intersection.  I have no idea what the plane is circling.

Looks like the plane is surveilling Sueño Park, on 43rd Ave. and W. Encanto Blvd. Maybe drug or gang activity?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 03, 2021, 11:45:54 pm
Looks like the plane is surveilling Sueño Park, on 43rd Ave. and W. Encanto Blvd. Maybe drug or gang activity?

I don't know much about that area, it's "West Valley."  My time in Phoenix was in the "East Valley."  I never had much use for the west valley because that's where all the crime and gang activity is.  That and the dreaded "South Phoenix."

But I did go to several State Fairs, so I know where the fairgrounds are.  Veterans Memorial Colosseum is in the middle of the fairgrounds, and that's where all the https://azaudit.org cameras are. 
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 04, 2021, 03:47:12 am
That's been my feeling; whether or not you liked the guy, his handling of the pandemic was excellent in my books! Trump got the job done and without wasting time.
This link is still being censored on Facebook, https://conservativeplaybook.com/2021/04/30/hcq-proponent-dr-vladimir-zelenko-to-receive-nobel-prize/?fbclid=IwAR3M1GTdHJgJiPctTrZQQ4vc0lRRmXZJSeQv0ZVNVy-WF7Bdp1JMbu-bCVs (https://conservativeplaybook.com/2021/04/30/hcq-proponent-dr-vladimir-zelenko-to-receive-nobel-prize/?fbclid=IwAR3M1GTdHJgJiPctTrZQQ4vc0lRRmXZJSeQv0ZVNVy-WF7Bdp1JMbu-bCVs) because it allegedly promotes "dangerous protocols" and "violates community standards", despite the fact that the regimen, appropriately used, works.

That makes the factcheckers, Zuckerberg, YouTube and its parent company Google, all party to the needless deaths of some 250K people, a crime against humanity. May they all rot in the appropriate circle of Hell...because they did it to snipe at Trump and steal an election.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 04, 2021, 04:17:22 am
All those jagged corners don't make sense either. The plane can't turn on a dime.
No, it can't, but part of the curve can be in a more vertical plane to make a plan view plot look pointed.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 04, 2021, 04:19:03 am
I don't know much about that area, it's "West Valley."  My time in Phoenix was in the "East Valley."  I never had much use for the west valley because that's where all the crime and gang activity is.  That and the dreaded "South Phoenix."

But I did go to several State Fairs, so I know where the fairgrounds are.  Veterans Memorial Colosseum is in the middle of the fairgrounds, and that's where all the https://azaudit.org cameras are.
What? No one is pulling cases out from under tables? :pondering:
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 04, 2021, 04:44:03 am
What? No one is pulling cases out from under tables? :pondering:

No tablecloths.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: PeteS in CA on May 04, 2021, 01:54:18 pm
I don't know much about that area, it's "West Valley."  My time in Phoenix was in the "East Valley."  I never had much use for the west valley because that's where all the crime and gang activity is.  That and the dreaded "South Phoenix."
...

I always had places east of 7th Street, but I compared the plot above to Google Maps to see what might be in the area. Whatever the plane was focusing on, it probably was unrelated to the recount (the Veteran's Memorial Coliseum is about 3 miles from the center of the plane's loops).
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 05, 2021, 01:39:02 pm
How quickly you forget @HikerGuy83  The initial projections were for over 2 million dead Americans. How could Trump have been more "empathetic" than closing our borders to China and parts of Europe and locking down to flatten the curve and not further overwhelm our hospital system --- which as you recall, were loading bodies into ice trucks outside the entrance doors.

Trump went on to put together the most formidable alliance between our military, government agencies and the private sector known in peacetime to build annex hospitals and produce and distribute PPEs, ventilators, testing kits, therapeutics (one that would save his own life) and three vaccines.

I'm of the opinion that the best damn empathy is synchronizing behemoth bureaucracies and getting real, lifesaving help to American citizens at breathtaking record speed.

If you're unhappy with some of the lockdowns, write your Governor.  It was actually these souls who closed their states and decided (or will decide) when to reopen them.  President Trump was encouraging reopening since Easter 2020.

You're absolutely, incredibly wrong.  This was the precise place for it.  No other President could have accomplished what President Trump did ... they'd have been paralyzed and overwhelmed.  Only Trump has the talent to motivate and manage in his wheelhouse.  I wish I could have been a fly on the wall for the times President Trump said: "Find me someone who can" to Vice President Pence and every military officer, CDC/FDA bureaucrat and CEO who told the President "Can't do it, sir".

So, tell me HikerGuy, just where did the President fail you?

Still waiting @HikerGuy83  ---- just where did the President fail you?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: mystery-ak on May 06, 2021, 01:38:17 am
BREAKING REPORT: Biden DOJ to Interfere with State of Arizona Forensic Audit of Maricopa County Ballots

The same organization that manufactured and ran the Russia collusion hoax and allowed for the 2020 election fraud is going to interfere with the Arizona audit!

According to Garrett Archer at ABC15 in Phoenix, Arizona the Biden Department of Justice is going to “get involved in some capacity” with the ongoing forensic audit.

more
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/breaking-report-biden-doj-interfere-state-arizona-forensic-audit-maricopa-county-ballots/
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on May 06, 2021, 01:50:30 am
BREAKING REPORT: Biden DOJ to Interfere with State of Arizona Forensic Audit of Maricopa County Ballots

The same organization that manufactured and ran the Russia collusion hoax and allowed for the 2020 election fraud is going to interfere with the Arizona audit!

According to Garrett Archer at ABC15 in Phoenix, Arizona the Biden Department of Justice is going to “get involved in some capacity” with the ongoing forensic audit.

more
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/breaking-report-biden-doj-interfere-state-arizona-forensic-audit-maricopa-county-ballots/

But... why? Nov 2020 was the most honest election in history & Trump lost bigly. Why wouldn't the Biden DOJ want the AZ audit to validate that?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on May 06, 2021, 02:31:59 am
But... why? Nov 2020 was the most honest election in history & Trump lost bigly. Why wouldn't the Biden DOJ want the AZ audit to validate that?

You know very well why @skeeter the truth cannot be allowed to see the light of day now.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: mystery-ak on May 06, 2021, 05:56:19 pm
BOMBSHELL: Maricopa County Didn't Have Password to Look Into Admin Functions of Voting Machines

Admin Functions of Voting Machines
Bannons War Room
Published May 5, 2021

https://rumble.com/embed/vdyksz/?pub=4
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: DB on May 06, 2021, 06:08:53 pm
When all the crap is exposed it will simply be claimed "mistakes were made" and it was all incompetence and not actual intension to cheat. Even though all of the "incompetence" worked in the Democrats favor. The MSM will go out in full coverup mode saying incompetence isn't a crime. And then they'll push legislation along the lines of "fair secure elections for all" that does the exact opposite of what they claim to solidify their cheating.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on May 06, 2021, 06:13:30 pm
When all the crap is exposed it will simply be claimed "mistakes were made" and it was all incompetence and not actual intension to cheat. Even though all of the "incompetence" worked in the Democrats favor. The MSM will go out in full coverup mode saying incompetence isn't a crime. And then they'll push legislation along the lines of "fair secure elections for all" that does the exact opposite of what they claim to solidify their cheating.
No doubt they will. But at least maybe we can get a few more of the dead enders on our team to admit the last election was a farce.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on May 06, 2021, 06:14:57 pm
When all the crap is exposed it will simply be claimed "mistakes were made" and it was all incompetence and not actual intension to cheat. Even though all of the "incompetence" worked in the Democrats favor. The MSM will go out in full coverup mode saying incompetence isn't a crime. And then they'll push legislation along the lines of "fair secure elections for all" that does the exact opposite of what they claim to solidify their cheating.

 :yowsa: Of course! But that is FAR from the truth and everyone knows it!
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 06, 2021, 06:59:54 pm
BOMBSHELL: Maricopa County Didn't Have Password to Look Into Admin Functions of Voting Machines

Admin Functions of Voting Machines
Bannons War Room
Published May 5, 2021

https://rumble.com/embed/vdyksz/?pub=4

I saw this story last night, and the County says they don't have the password.  If that's true, then they lied trough their teeth about "auditing" the election.  I think the County is lying right now when they say they don't have the Admin password.  I say they do, and they're just trying to throw sand in the gears.

That would be just like what they're been doing from the start.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 08, 2021, 02:54:16 pm

So, tell me HikerGuy, just where did the President fail you?


I think I already explained it. 

It was all about OPTICS and some on this board turn in to screeching baboons at dissention of opinion.

That is what left wingers do.  Anyone who can't stand an opposing thought without losing it, isn't a conservative in my estimation.

Trump could little about the VIRUS initially.  But he did what he could.

Then he publicly fought with people like that idiot governor from Michigan.  You may not like it, but it happened.  And the press blew it all out of proportion.  Nobody saw that coming ?????  I can recall thinking....this isn't going to bode well.

His comments about opening by Easter were spot on.  But he never explained why he said that.  He should have.  I knew.  He was pointing the American people in a direction of hope.  But, again, the press used that to blast him.  He should have been clearer and not understanding that is why he lost.

Pollsters saw it coming and his own pollster reported that COVID cost him the election.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article

In 2020 he gained with blacks and hispanics but lost a lot of moderate whites who were overwhelmed by the garbage that was out there that rolled into the lying horsecrap narrative the media had been building since 2016. 

The left managed to screw up the economy with the lockdowns.  So they took that card away from Trump.  He never was able to get that back.

But he tried to build on it. 

However, the optics of the situation failed him and he did not adjust.

That is my opinion. 

I only have what I read and what I hear from several friends who voted for him in 2016, but turned on him in 2020.

As to "the steal", it would never have been an issue had COVID not happened.

He would have swamped any democratic contender. 
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 08, 2021, 02:56:17 pm
Still waiting @HikerGuy83  ---- just where did the President fail you?

Waiting for what ?

I already explained it to you and your opinion is no better than mine.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2021, 03:02:31 pm
I think I already explained it. 

It was all about OPTICS and some on this board turn in to screeching baboons at dissention of opinion.

That is what left wingers do.  Anyone who can't stand an opposing thought without losing it, isn't a conservative in my estimation.

Trump could little about the VIRUS initially.  But he did what he could.

Then he publicly fought with people like that idiot governor from Michigan.  You may not like it, but it happened.  And the press blew it all out of proportion.  Nobody saw that coming ?????  I can recall thinking....this isn't going to bode well.

His comments about opening by Easter were spot on.  But he never explained why he said that.  He should have.  I knew.  He was pointing the American people in a direction of hope.  But, again, the press used that to blast him.  He should have been clearer and not understanding that is why he lost.

Pollsters saw it coming and his own pollster reported that COVID cost him the election.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article

In 2020 he gained with blacks and hispanics but lost a lot of moderate whites who were overwhelmed by the garbage that was out there that rolled into the lying horsecrap narrative the media had been building since 2016. 

The left managed to screw up the economy with the lockdowns.  So they took that card away from Trump.  He never was able to get that back.

But he tried to build on it. 

However, the optics of the situation failed him and he did not adjust.

That is my opinion. 

I only have what I read and what I hear from several friends who voted for him in 2016, but turned on him in 2020.

As to "the steal", it would never have been an issue had COVID not happened.

He would have swamped any democratic contender.

I find it astounding that after all that analysis you came to the conclusion that it's Trump who failed you.  Because "optics."   **nononono*
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: catfish1957 on May 08, 2021, 03:48:01 pm
In my opinion, Trump mishandled the COVID mess by not being empathetic enough. 

He could have spared us some of the lockdowns by helping people see we were working together.

Yes, yes, yes......morons pelosi and uppy chucky shcumer would have fought him....but he would have been seen as trying to do the best for America. 

He does not like being challenged and get's combative.

That was not the place for it.

Had he shown a little humility...he'd be in the WH right now.

I don't apologize....that is the way I see it.

I feel like he let me down.

I am going to approve about 50% of this post content.  I don't think he mishandled the COVID-19 situation.  If you look at the data, though the pandemic was serious, it was not the level of catastrophic that the syringe gnome Fauxcii was crying about.  Secondly, we have a vaccine right now due to Trump's dilligence.  If some numb nutted dim had been in there we would still be in a a beaurcpatic nightmare.

I do agree with the aspects of your empathy comments.  But that is the nature of Trump.  Everyone knew that when he was elected.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 08, 2021, 07:46:21 pm
I am going to approve about 50% of this post content.  I don't think he mishandled the COVID-19 situation.  If you look at the data, though the pandemic was serious, it was not the level of catastrophic that the syringe gnome Fauxcii was crying about.  Secondly, we have a vaccine right now due to Trump's dilligence.  If some numb nutted dim had been in there we would still be in a a beaurcpatic nightmare.

I do agree with the aspects of your empathy comments.  But that is the nature of Trump.  Everyone knew that when he was elected.

I agree.

But Trump managed to get himself at odds with Fauci.  Fauci is still with us.  Trump is not.

I have called this thing a hoax, but what I really meant was the response was a hoax.

If Trump has just shut up and acted like a leader for the entire country.....he'd be in his second term.  And not much would be different (except maybe we would not be an additional 2 trillion in debt).

But, if you are in a game where image and emotion count....you have to play well.

He relied on the economy to get him through.  He did not count on the coordinated counter attack he received.

Those of us asking for change of direction (only in terms of his responses) were shouted down by those in the same party. 

Well.....he's gone.

And he's probably not coming back.

I can only hope the next person we nominate will have the same moxy in the same areas, but a little more smarts when it comes to making the fools on the left look like what they are.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 08, 2021, 07:47:57 pm
I find it astounding that after all that analysis you came to the conclusion that it's Trump who failed you.  Because "optics."   **nononono*

If you want to present what astounds you, I am all ears.

However, losing enough college educated whites to lose the election falls directly at his feet.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: libertybele on May 08, 2021, 09:52:30 pm
I agree.

But Trump managed to get himself at odds with Fauci.  Fauci is still with us.  Trump is not.

I have called this thing a hoax, but what I really meant was the response was a hoax.

If Trump has just shut up and acted like a leader for the entire country.....he'd be in his second term.  And not much would be different (except maybe we would not be an additional 2 trillion in debt).

But, if you are in a game where image and emotion count....you have to play well.

He relied on the economy to get him through.  He did not count on the coordinated counter attack he received.

Those of us asking for change of direction (only in terms of his responses) were shouted down by those in the same party. 

Well.....he's gone.

And he's probably not coming back.

I can only hope the next person we nominate will have the same moxy in the same areas, but a little more smarts when it comes to making the fools on the left look like what they are.

Wow.  Fauci was instrumental in inflicting the virus on us ... I've explained in detail in the past, and I posted several links very specifically showing his ties, along with links to Biden and the Chinese (videos and links).  It isn't rocket science to connect the dots.

If you insist on blaming Trump; go for it. IMHO if anyone brought focus to the corruption on the left it was President Trump!
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 08, 2021, 09:58:20 pm
Wow.  Fauci was instrumental in inflicting the virus on us ... I've explained in detail in the past, and I posted several links very specifically showing his ties, along with links to Biden and the Chinese (videos and links).  It isn't rocket science to connect the dots.

If you insist on blaming Trump; go for it. IMHO if anyone brought focus to the corruption on the left it was President Trump!

Yeah WOW

Fauci is still around.

Trump isn't in the W.H. anymore.

That isn't rocket science either.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: libertybele on May 08, 2021, 10:08:27 pm
Yeah WOW

Fauci is still around.

Trump isn't in the W.H. anymore.

That isn't rocket science either.

Seriously?? Fauci remains under the Biden administration.  What a shocker!   

You might want to go and do a little research on Fauci and his financial ties to Biden and the Chinese, his research over in Wahun and his funding of research; even Bammy shut it down for fear of a pandemic.

So, should I assume that you don't believe that the election was stolen?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 08, 2021, 10:28:54 pm
Seriously?? Fauci remains under the Biden administration.  What a shocker!   

You might want to go and do a little research on Fauci and his financial ties to Biden and the Chinese, his research over in Wahun and his funding of research; even Bammy shut it down for fear of a pandemic.

So, should I assume that you don't believe that the election was stolen?

I don't get what it is that you don't get.

I don't like Fauci.  I don't trust him.  Never have.

But's he's there....still spreading his lies and yanking this country all over the place. 

Trump isn't there anymore.  We now have a decrepit old loser of a career pol in there.

Do you get that ?  Is that clear ?

Trump isn't in the W.H. anymore. 

I say he brought it on himself.  He lost a lot of white voters over his handling of the Pandemic.  Yes, the press lied and slandered him.  You knew it would happen.  He just kept giving them all kinds of things to heighten the attacks.  Yes, the left are baboons that screech and throw their poop around....no suprise there.

If the economy isn't crashed by the dems...he wins.

But they did it and he stayed in character....and lost.

I don't need to know about Fauci.....as I said.....I don't trust him or any other expert who were so quick to prescribe with so little information. 

As for the election....what I believe is what I believe (or don't believe). 

You can prattle on all you want. 

If there is no Covid.....Trump wins.

Even with Covid...with some good leadership....Trump wins.

Trump lost (at least that is what the current numbers say).

Had he done better....no way there is a chance anyone could steal anything.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: libertybele on May 08, 2021, 10:41:13 pm
I don't get what it is that you don't get.

I don't like Fauci.  I don't trust him.  Never have.

But's he's there....still spreading his lies and yanking this country all over the place. 

Trump isn't there anymore.  We now have a decrepit old loser of a career pol in there.

Do you get that ?  Is that clear ?

Trump isn't in the W.H. anymore. 

I say he brought it on himself.  He lost a lot of white voters over his handling of the Pandemic.  Yes, the press lied and slandered him.  You knew it would happen.  He just kept giving them all kinds of things to heighten the attacks.  Yes, the left are baboons that screech and throw their poop around....no suprise there.

If the economy isn't crashed by the dems...he wins.

But they did it and he stayed in character....and lost.

I don't need to know about Fauci.....as I said.....I don't trust him or any other expert who were so quick to prescribe with so little information. 

As for the election....what I believe is what I believe (or don't believe). 

You can prattle on all you want. 

If there is no Covid.....Trump wins.

Even with Covid...with some good leadership....Trump wins.

Trump lost (at least that is what the current numbers say).

Had he done better....no way there is a chance anyone could steal anything.

I stand by my very first comment; "Wow".  Definitely nothing more further to discuss here.

I am also very glad that Trump support is 75,000,000 strong and we have people who recognize that the only chance that we have to save our Republic is from the ground up. 

Also conservative governors are becoming bolder and wiser.

Whether or not this will all equate to any significant change in the future is obviously unknown. I'm praying that the Lord Jesus Christ stops the evil that tends to be prevailing on this country. We need a miracle.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 09, 2021, 03:35:44 am
I agree.

But Trump managed to get himself at odds with Fauci.  Fauci is still with us.  Trump is not.

I have called this thing a hoax, but what I really meant was the response was a hoax.

If Trump has just shut up and acted like a leader for the entire country.....he'd be in his second term.  And not much would be different (except maybe we would not be an additional 2 trillion in debt).

But, if you are in a game where image and emotion count....you have to play well.

He relied on the economy to get him through.  He did not count on the coordinated counter attack he received.

Those of us asking for change of direction (only in terms of his responses) were shouted down by those in the same party. 

Well.....he's gone.

And he's probably not coming back.

I can only hope the next person we nominate will have the same moxy in the same areas, but a little more smarts when it comes to making the fools on the left look like what they are.
I think that ignores a few things.

First, the "election". About that, there had been a four (plus) year barrage of negative press, overblown charges (and shown baseless), rampant fishing expeditions masquerading as "investigations" finally, leading up to an impeachment done along Party lines with a folder full of allegations and unnamed sources which could not produce anything to convict Trump of, even when they impeached him a second time. 

Add COVID and stir. Whether the Chinese released the virus by accident or accidentally on purpose, their actions were such that the whole world would have to deal with the virus, and I think that was intended, with people in key places like the head of the WHO and the head of our NIAID, to demolish the prosperity America was experiencing, because that was the preeminent economic threat to China. With a second term, American manufacturing could have taken a bite out of Chinese markets, employment here could have been rampant, and we would have possibly reached the point of using our own resources to make our own stuff to the exclusion of China. Trump was a much tougher negotiator than the Neville Chamberlain wannabes who preceded him, and the perfidious b@stards cashing in on incestuous deals with the PRC.

Naturally China wanted Trump out of the way, and they used every card in the deck to pull that off, including participating, directly or indirectly,in the removal of integrity from Americas electoral process.

In short, Trump didn't lose. The election was stolen through fraud.

I'd reserve my enmity for those of the GOP who were just fine with that, so they could get back to bid'ness as usual, and lining their pockets (directly or indirectly) without all that attention being called to just how badly they were screwing their constituents. I'd reserve it for the traitors who are even now inhabiting the halls of power and wreaking devastation on this country, something which the Virus has been used as the excuse  fr, including the methods used to corrupt election results by millions of votes nationwide.

As for Fauci and others of his ilk, he's an entrenched bureaucrat--the epitome of a Swamp Creature--they run the place. All those elected officials are just temps.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: roamer_1 on May 09, 2021, 06:06:34 am
Trump could little about the VIRUS initially.  But he did what he could.


I think if he'd have stuck to his gut he'd have done better. I backed him on this when his initial reaction was to cry bullcrap. He should have been crying bullcrap all the way along.

But he didn't. He folded like a 2 dollar law chair... And shut the place OFF.

In the context of that he did some things right - his work toward meeting supply demands was good - But that was in the context of shutting the whole country down. He shut it OFF.

Seriously bad move. And by the time he caught on and started playing the bullcrap line again, it was damn well too late.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 09, 2021, 03:24:09 pm
I think if he'd have stuck to his gut he'd have done better. I backed him on this when his initial reaction was to cry bullcrap. He should have been crying bullcrap all the way along.

But he didn't. He folded like a 2 dollar law chair... And shut the place OFF.

In the context of that he did some things right - his work toward meeting supply demands was good - But that was in the context of shutting the whole country down. He shut it OFF.

Seriously bad move. And by the time he caught on and started playing the bullcrap line again, it was damn well too late.

I wont' disagree with you to the extent that Trump should have shown a willingness to set aside partisanship and antagonism to say "This isn't politics...people are dying". 

Had he taken the lead and focused on the elderly (who were the ones dying), the lockdowns would have logically gone away.

He should not have been critical of governors who chose to lock down.....that was their business. 

Cuomo would have shined like the lousy criminal he is for all the people he killed.  It's amazing that he didn't get lynched for his pathetic response. 

But Trump just could not stay out of the limelight. 

His willingness to publicly badmouth members of his own team (even if they deserved it) only gave the press what they needed to show how ununified he was in his response. 

So when the bottom falls out, he loses his strongest plank (the economy) and the left (in an unholy alliance with the press) made him pay.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 09, 2021, 03:28:58 pm
I think that ignores a few things.

First, the "election". About that, there had been a four (plus) year barrage of negative press, overblown charges (and shown baseless), rampant fishing expeditions masquerading as "investigations" finally, leading up to an impeachment done along Party lines with a folder full of allegations and unnamed sources which could not produce anything to convict Trump of, even when they impeached him a second time. 

Add COVID and stir. Whether the Chinese released the virus by accident or accidentally on purpose, their actions were such that the whole world would have to deal with the virus, and I think that was intended, with people in key places like the head of the WHO and the head of our NIAID, to demolish the prosperity America was experiencing, because that was the preeminent economic threat to China. With a second term, American manufacturing could have taken a bite out of Chinese markets, employment here could have been rampant, and we would have possibly reached the point of using our own resources to make our own stuff to the exclusion of China. Trump was a much tougher negotiator than the Neville Chamberlain wannabes who preceded him, and the perfidious b@stards cashing in on incestuous deals with the PRC.

Naturally China wanted Trump out of the way, and they used every card in the deck to pull that off, including participating, directly or indirectly,in the removal of integrity from Americas electoral process.

In short, Trump didn't lose. The election was stolen through fraud.

I'd reserve my enmity for those of the GOP who were just fine with that, so they could get back to bid'ness as usual, and lining their pockets (directly or indirectly) without all that attention being called to just how badly they were screwing their constituents. I'd reserve it for the traitors who are even now inhabiting the halls of power and wreaking devastation on this country, something which the Virus has been used as the excuse  fr, including the methods used to corrupt election results by millions of votes nationwide.

As for Fauci and others of his ilk, he's an entrenched bureaucrat--the epitome of a Swamp Creature--they run the place. All those elected officials are just temps.

We can discuss these points...but I am not sure how I am forgetting them. 

They don't play into what makes me feel Trump let me down.

Stolen or not....it would never have been that close. 

Trump was never able to get past the poor poll numbers on the pandemic.  That cost him core voters.

I don't agree with their logic for turning on him, but he is smart enough to know it was going to hurt him unless he sharpened his game and did things differently.

Well, he didn't and he lost (per the current numbers).

Not only did he lose, but somehow we managed to screw up Georgia (which was somewhat co-mingled) and now we have a left wing monstermash in congress.

Only people like our own Krysten Sinema are slowing down their rush to power.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 09, 2021, 05:36:56 pm
We can discuss these points...but I am not sure how I am forgetting them. 

They don't play into what makes me feel Trump let me down.

Stolen or not....it would never have been that close. 

Trump was never able to get past the poor poll numbers on the pandemic.  That cost him core voters.

I don't agree with their logic for turning on him, but he is smart enough to know it was going to hurt him unless he sharpened his game and did things differently.

Well, he didn't and he lost (per the current numbers).

Not only did he lose, but somehow we managed to screw up Georgia (which was somewhat co-mingled) and now we have a left wing monstermash in congress.

Only people like our own Krysten Sinema are slowing down their rush to power.
Simply enough, for five years the press has been telling you Trump let you down, was a failure, etc. repeatedly, ad infinitum.

If you aren't acutely conscious of that PSYOP, it'll get to you.

No, I really do not think he lost. I think the vote tallies were manipulated during tabulation in key states especially, with things like sudden additions of votes in improbably high concentrations for Biden, and numbering in five or six figures, in addition to all the other garden variety fraud tactics employed. Funny how the Democrats quit howling to take down the electoral college when it worked for them...
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 09, 2021, 06:58:52 pm
Simply enough, for five years the press has been telling you Trump let you down, was a failure, etc. repeatedly, ad infinitum.

If you aren't acutely conscious of that PSYOP, it'll get to you.

No, I really do not think he lost. I think the vote tallies were manipulated during tabulation in key states especially, with things like sudden additions of votes in improbably high concentrations for Biden, and numbering in five or six figures, in addition to all the other garden variety fraud tactics employed. Funny how the Democrats quit howling to take down the electoral college when it worked for them...

In case you missed it, that was one of the reasons I stated Trump needed to be more on his game.

I knew he had an uphill battle given his relationship with the so-called press.  They had been openly lying about stuff since 2008.

So I was well aware of it.

And I recall thinking....he should, but he won't.  And he didn't.

What you or I think about winning or losing is of little consequence.  Things like the audit will/will not produce change.

I prefer to focus on things like: Let's make sure we've looked at everything so we know it wasn't stolen.  And if it was, we want to know that also.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 09, 2021, 07:05:02 pm
In case you missed it, that was one of the reasons I stated Trump needed to be more on his game.

I knew he had an uphill battle given his relationship with the so-called press.  They had been openly lying about stuff since 2008.

So I was well aware of it.

And I recall thinking....he should, but he won't.  And he didn't.

What you or I think about winning or losing is of little consequence.  Things like the audit will/will not produce change.

I prefer to focus on things like: Let's make sure we've looked at everything so we know it wasn't stolen.  And if it was, we want to know that also.

I think the dissonance comes in when you write all that, then come to the conclusion "Trump let us down."

Hint:  The 95% negative stories from the "mainstream" press is not "Trump's fault."  He didn't let us down, but the RINOs that cooperated in the theft of an election certainly did.  Blame them.  Since I guess you're in AZ now, you can start with Doug Ducey and Mark Byrnovich.  They cooperated with the Rat SoS and Maricopa County Recorder.  I don't blame them for acting like Rats, but they should be prosecuted for clearly breaking AZ laws.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on May 09, 2021, 07:14:50 pm
I think the dissonance comes in when you write all that, then come to the conclusion "Trump let us down."

Hint:  The 95% negative stories from the "mainstream" press is not "Trump's fault."  He didn't let us down, but the RINOs that cooperated in the theft of an election certainly did.  Blame them.  Since I guess you're in AZ now, you can start with Doug Ducey and Mark Byrnovich.  They cooperated with the Rat SoS and Maricopa County Recorder.  I don't blame them for acting like Rats, but they should be prosecuted for clearly breaking AZ laws.

I am not going to keep trying to make the nuanced point that Trump KNEW the press would be against him. 

All the more reason for him to adjust.

He lost his primary plank with the pandemic.  You have to adjust.

He didn't.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 09, 2021, 07:28:24 pm
I am not going to keep trying to make the nuanced point that Trump KNEW the press would be against him. 

All the more reason for him to adjust.

He lost his primary plank with the pandemic.  You have to adjust.

He didn't.

Since I don't want the gummint to kiss every owie I get, I was not personally "let down" by Trump's response to the plague.  I leave that to the handwringers looking for something, anything to "blame" for November.  I prefer fact-based criticism, not "what could have been."  It's not knowable how many, if any votes were lost because of Trump's response to COVID or to Only Black Lives Matter riots.

At the moment, I am concerned about the election fraud, and that's not because I want the election reversed but rather because I'm pissed my own vote was diluted by Rats and RINOs.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 14, 2021, 10:00:59 pm
Simply enough, for five years the press has been telling you Trump let you down, was a failure, etc. repeatedly, ad infinitum.

If you aren't acutely conscious of that PSYOP, it'll get to you.

No, I really do not think he lost. I think the vote tallies were manipulated during tabulation in key states especially, with things like sudden additions of votes in improbably high concentrations for Biden, and numbering in five or six figures, in addition to all the other garden variety fraud tactics employed. Funny how the Democrats quit howling to take down the electoral college when it worked for them...

Correct.

Business Partner Of Chinese Communist Party Owns American Voting Machine, Elections Company!
Again… why in the world are our enemies so ensconced in our elections system?!
April Matthews by April Matthews
 

https://conservativedailypost.com/business-partner-of-chinese-communist-party-owns-american-voting-machine-elections-company/
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on August 14, 2021, 10:30:46 pm
I voted for Donald Trump twice and I'd do it again if the chance came up.

But I am one of the people who believes he helped lose this election by being so inflexible in his response to COVID.

Inflexible?  How so?  He basically allowed States to do whatever they wanted.  How was he inflexible?


What happened to Sydney Powell and all this overwhelming evidence ?

Have you not followed what happened in Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Michigan?  In one ballot batch alone in Dekalb County, Georgia, Biden picked up over 10,000 votes.  Pretty neat trick considering a ballot batch fits inside a single box with a maximum capacity of 1,500 ballots.  And yes, that has been proven.




Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: corbe on August 14, 2021, 10:32:31 pm
Jamestown Revival - This Too Shall Pass (One Take From a Barn)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4VsJIBm3tU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4VsJIBm3tU)

    @Texas Robin 's suggestion.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 27, 2021, 04:46:42 am
The Post & Email 4/29/2021

"I KNOW WHY, AND SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE!"

On Wednesday evening, 45th President of the United States Donald Trump said on Gab.com that the judge overseeing a lawsuit brought by Arizona Democrats against Republican state senate members conducting an audit in Maricopa County of the November 3, 2020 election handed the Republicans a “BIG victory.”

According to Trump’s former personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, on Friday, Trump was being kept up-to-date on the audit’s progress, which began that day amidst a lawsuit filed Thursday by the Arizona Democratic Party claiming the audit’s methods to be too secretive and non-protective of voters’ privacy.

“BIG victory today in Arizona,” Trump tweeted Wednesday. “A highly respected Judge has just ruled that the Forensic Audit being done by the Arizona State Senate can and will continue. Over 100 Democrat lawyers were sent to fight against this audit. The results will be very interesting for the USA and the World to see!”

More: https://www.thepostemail.com/2021/04/29/trump-results-of-election-audit-will-be-very-interesting/ (https://www.thepostemail.com/2021/04/29/trump-results-of-election-audit-will-be-very-interesting/)


Guess he was disappointed.

If he had kept his mouth shut and handled COVID better, this would be a non-issue.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 29, 2021, 05:00:29 am
Guess he was disappointed.

If he had kept his mouth shut and handled COVID better, this would be a non-issue.
Why would he be disappointed? The Maricopa County results alone show votes which should never have been counted which numbered multiples of the alleged margin of victory for Biden  for the entire State--in just one county.

No way those results should have been certified. The results of the election as reported were bogus.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2021, 05:05:14 am
If he had kept his mouth shut and handled COVID better, this would be a non-issue.

Handle COVID better?  First off, in your opinion, how could he have handled Covid better?  Secondly, how did his handling of COVID have any effect on the election fraud that took place in Arizona, Nevada, Virginia, California, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, etc?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Absalom on September 29, 2021, 05:14:54 am
I declare b.s.
# 1 COVID was inflicted upon us by Fauci and cronies.  I do not believe it is a coincidence that everyone running on the DEM ticket stepped down and miraculously Biden became the  nominee.  Even Buttgig had more delegates then he did.  The DEMS had to do something in order to take down Trump.  He was getting to close to uncovering and putting on full display the corruption of the past administration; Burisma for starters.   
# 2 The election was stolen.
# 3  The SCOTUS FAILED this country and looked the other way and allowed the steal.
# 4  Pence, Pelosi, and others were fully aware of and helped to orchestrate the attack on the capital ; of course Trump and his supporters were blamed. Here we sit and unless the 75 million who voted for Trump find a way to restore election integrity OR unseat the corrupt in power, things will NEVER change.
Freedom.  It is OURS for the taking.  ---- Dr. Ron Paul
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Utter malarkey.
#1 / Covid was created by Nature, as were all the pandemics of history.
#2 / Trump lost because plain people wanted no more of this ignorant and self-absorbed Howdy Doody.

Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 29, 2021, 07:30:29 am
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Utter malarkey.
#1 / Covid was created by Nature, as were all the pandemics of history.
#2 / Trump lost because plain people wanted no more of this ignorant and self-absorbed Howdy Doody.
No, COVID was not "created by nature", it was a viral chimera that was the result of Gain of Function research done in the US up until 2014 with two researchers from Wuhan on the staff, and then moved to Wuhan. The researchers published an article in the journal Nature entitled A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence[/i], and before the abstract was changed in the last year, it said:
Quote
Quote
Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system2, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein. On the basis of these findings, we synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. Our work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations.

If you have been playing the home game, you will recognize the effects and description of the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen in that description, and they created it.

Nature might have been the distributor, but the virus was a Frankenstein monster, cobbled together in a lab.

Link to the (now edited) article: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985)
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on September 29, 2021, 01:48:41 pm
I voted for Donald Trump twice and I'd do it again if the chance came up.

But I am one of the people who believes he helped lose this election by being so inflexible in his response to COVID. 

I am getting a little tired of this continuation.

What happened to Sydney Powell and all this overwhelming evidence ?

Sydney Powell, along with the State of Texas and 26 other states have yet to receive their day in court which is where evidence is actually presented @HikerGuy83
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on September 29, 2021, 01:57:51 pm
No, COVID was not "created by nature", it was a viral chimera that was the result of Gain of Function research done in the US up until 2014 with two researchers from Wuhan on the staff, and then moved to Wuhan. The researchers published an article in the journal Nature entitled A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence[/i], and before the abstract was changed in the last year, it said:

If you have been playing the home game, you will recognize the effects and description of the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen in that description, and they created it.

Nature might have been the distributor, but the virus was a Frankenstein monster, cobbled together in a lab.

Link to the (now edited) article: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985)

And, if I may be so bold as to add a bit to the above @Smokin Joe there is a BIG tell that lets us know that the dissemination was no accident.  In November of 2019, before most of the world was even aware of COVID, the CHICOMs stopped all travel within China from Wuhan but did absolutely nothing to stop the three daily flights from Wuhan to Rome and other international destinations.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 29, 2021, 02:08:31 pm
Guess he was disappointed.

If he had kept his mouth shut and handled COVID better, this would be a non-issue.
You mean Trump could've done more besides immediately slamming the door shut to travel from afflicted regions, burying states in ventilators, providing thousands of critical care beds where they were thought to be most needed and leading the effort to develop vaccines, all in record time?

I'd like to hear how he could've done better as well.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2021, 02:20:58 pm
Trump could have handled COVID better

Yet another Democrat talking point that is now being posted here.  And just as on CNN, MSNBC, etc., it is a claim that remains unsubstantiated.

I ask again, @HikerGuy83 .  What could President Trump have done to handle Covid better?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: catfish1957 on September 29, 2021, 02:39:24 pm

Even with Covid...with some good leadership....Trump wins.

Trump lost (at least that is what the current numbers say).

Had he done better....no way there is a chance anyone could steal anything.

@HikerGuy83

Ridiculous comment.  Trump got not only 1, but 3 vaccines in what it would normally take 5 years.  Also do you realize this is the first pandemic in a 100 years?  What kind of playbook should he have ran from.  It was all new ground, and his really only serious stupid move was putting Faucxi in the role where he was.

I was on industry pandemic task forces when before retirement several years ago. Based on the threat of H1N5.  Our contingency plans were shared with Obama administration, as were from several other industries.  Why didn't those documents get to the Trump administration?  The previous adminstration sabotaged DJT on several fronts.

Instead, how about giving me an idea, of how Trump could have shown  better leadership in light of 24/7 attacks from the media, Big Tech, and an oppostion party whose only purpose in life was to unseat him.  I think you were brainwashed by MSM's 24/7 squawking of death counts.....all atrributable to Trump
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: corbe on September 29, 2021, 03:09:11 pm
   I agree with the @HikerGuy83 granted it's all in hindsight now but President Trump screwed up the pandemic response.  Mainly by leaving Fauci in charge and those who say Trump couldn't fire him, I say BS. The miraculous Ventilators mostly sit in warehouses or are given away to other countries.  They are the last thing Covid patients see in America because once you are put on the Ford built machine your chances of survival are <10%.  Data collected from all over the world show people getting the jabs are dying more often than those who refuse to participate in the scam.

   Trump, the con, was conned, it's as simple as that.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on September 29, 2021, 03:14:12 pm
   I agree with the @HikerGuy83 granted it's all in hindsight now but President Trump screwed up the pandemic response.  Mainly by leaving Fauci in charge and those who say Trump couldn't fire him, I say BS. The miraculous Ventilators mostly sit in warehouses or are given away to other countries.  They are the last thing Covid patients see in America because once you are put on the Ford built machine your chances of survival are <10%.  Data collected from all over the world show people getting the jabs are dying more often than those who refuse to participate in the scam.

   Trump, the con, was conned, it's as simple as that.

Total BS @corbe and YOU know it!  Trump did not hire Fauci (he was already there when Trump took over)  and had Trump fired him the media would have gone bat shit crazy!
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: corbe on September 29, 2021, 03:19:11 pm
Total BS @corbe and YOU know it!  Trump did not hire Fauci (he was already there when Trump took over)  and had Trump fired him the media would have gone bat shit crazy!


   With all due respect @Bigun It doesn't matter who hired him or his sidekick Birix and the press was up his azz anyway, everyday.  It appears to me yall elected a Business Man for just these kind of scenarios but he morphed into a politician rather quickly.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 29, 2021, 03:48:12 pm

   With all due respect @Bigun It doesn't matter who hired him or his sidekick Birix and the press was up his azz anyway, everyday.  It appears to me yall elected a Business Man for just these kind of scenarios but he morphed into a politician rather quickly.
Or, being under the constant threat of impeachment perhaps he needed the support of politicians.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Absalom on September 29, 2021, 09:03:31 pm
No, COVID was not "created by nature", it was a viral chimera that was the result of Gain of Function research done in the US up until 2014 with two researchers from Wuhan on the staff, and then moved to Wuhan. The researchers published an article in the journal Nature entitled A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence[/i], and before the abstract was changed in the last year, it said:
If you have been playing the home game, you will recognize the effects and description of the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen in that description, and they created it.
Nature might have been the distributor, but the virus was a Frankenstein monster, cobbled together in a lab.
----------------------------------
Smokin, a respectful demurral.
Being old-fashioned, I always defer to the wisest of the past.
William of Ockham defined the Law of Parsimony (his 'Razor') whereby
simplicity will always trump sophistication, when explaining reality.
The origin of Covid is purposely wrapped in modern jargon, i. e. horse manure.
Almighty God is the Creator of Existence, then came Nature and lastly Man.
As such, Nature is more powerful than Man; the former being the catalyst of
both the helpful (growth) and the harmful (disease such as Plague).
Yet jargon, has its place as the language of our political assholery.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 29, 2021, 09:23:22 pm
President Trump screwed up the pandemic response.  Mainly by leaving Fauci in charge and those who say Trump couldn't fire him, I say BS.

Yes, Trump could have fired Fauci.  Yes, Trump screwed up bigtime by trusting Establishment types at every level, both before and after the election.  He really had no idea how bad the swamp really was, especially on his own side of the aisle.  But that was not limited to the Covid response, but affected him at numerous levels.

Having said that, the question still remains, what could Trump have done to handle Covid better?  Firing Fauci would have been great, but it would have removed something from the equation, not added to it.  Basically, the government's job ended once the vaccine was issued.  It was never the government's job to shut down the economy or enact mask mandates.  Other than trusting establishment types (including Big Pharma), not really seeing anything you can blame on Trump here.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 29, 2021, 09:34:04 pm
Yes, Trump could have fired Fauci.  Yes, Trump screwed up bigtime by trusting Establishment types at every level, both before and after the election.  He really had no idea how bad the swamp really was, especially on his own side of the aisle.  But that was not limited to the Covid response, but affected him at numerous levels.

Having said that, the question still remains, what could Trump have done to handle Covid better?  Firing Fauci would have been great, but it would have removed something from the equation, not added to it.  Basically, the government's job ended once the vaccine was issued.  It was never the government's job to shut down the economy or enact mask mandates.  Other than trusting establishment types (including Big Pharma), not really seeing anything you can blame on Trump here.
Of course in hindsight it wouldn't have made a difference, but it was clear then that even our side of the aisle would've been up in arms had Trump fired Fauci, at least publicly. With all of the other irons the rats & rat media had in the fire to stick him with Trump needed allies, even among the GOPe. Either impeachment might've gone differently had Trump thus alienated his own party.

From a PR angle, firing Fauci would've handed the media the justification to go along with their narrative, that Trump ignored the scientists and did his own thing, causing the deaths of thousands. IMO he was kinda screwed either way.

Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 29, 2021, 10:03:15 pm
----------------------------------
Smokin, a respectful demurral.
Being old-fashioned, I always defer to the wisest of the past.
William of Ockham defined the Law of Parsimony (his 'Razor') whereby
simplicity will always trump sophistication, when explaining reality.
The origin of Covid is purposely wrapped in modern jargon, i. e. horse manure.
Almighty God is the Creator of Existence, then came Nature and lastly Man.
As such, Nature is more powerful than Man; the former being the catalyst of
both the helpful (growth) and the harmful (disease such as Plague).
Yet jargon, has its place as the language of our political assholery.
Well, I can talk politiks, but I are a scientist.
It's easy to slash your wrists with Occam's Razor. That happens, because sometimes life is complicated.
Basically, the researchers kludged the spike protein from a Bat coronavirus onto SARS to make SARS more infectious--in 2014, in North Carolina.

Gee whiz, it worked. it was not only more infectious than SARS, it attacks airway and lung cells, and is resistant to known patented antiviral medications.



They did the research with funding from NIAID, and when even the Obama Administration wanted it shut down, it was moved to Wuhan Institute of Virology, where two of the researchers were from.

They are even listed in the original web publication of the paper: Xing-Yi Ge:    Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

and

Zhengli-Li Shi, also from the Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China



I honestly believe that's why the medical community went all batsh*t crazy when someone (Dr Zelenko, for one) dug up information on how Zinc put the hurt on the original SARS virus, and figured out how to get it into the lung cells where it would do some good.

That's why the 60 year old antimalarial drug suddenly became the 'kiss of death' in the media (well, that, and Trump mentioned it as a possible treatment), because it works to move zinc into the lung cells. It turns out that Ivermectin will do the same thing (now being derided as "Horse medicine" in the media, but developed as an anti-parasitic drug for humans--and the developers won the Nobel Prize for that). That ability classes these drugs as ionophores (for moving ions through cell membranes) and there are others including Quercetin (an OTC dietary supplement), which do the same thing. The ion that is desirable to move is Zinc, and that will disrupt viral replication. The body cleans up the mess, and makes antibodies against the bits of virus, including the spike protein everyone talks about. Those antibodies are superior to the ones from the jabs because the whole virus, albeit broken up, was involved in their formation. (Incidentally, conventional vaccines, like the polio vaccine use dead virus bits to do the same thing, while the new jabs just use the spike proteins, and not the whole virus.)

That was unexpected by the folks who unveiled this pandemic in the US, at least by the researchers, so it had to be shut up.
When that didn't work, cancel culture went into hyperdrive and people got posts, then themselves banned from Facebook and other social media for contending that the drugs were not only not deadly to the vast majority of people in ordinary clinical doses, they were prescribed and FDA approved for anti-parasitic and anti-malarial use.  But the medical community crafted studies that puprported to prove that these drugs were deadly, dangerous, and even ineffective, aided by leaving out the substance the drugs were supposed to get into the lung cells to stop the virus.
It's like saying "Fords are bad" and proving it by taking the tires off and leaving the gas tank dry and saying they won't run.

I'm not trying to baffle you with bullshit, nor bedazzle you with brilliance, just trying to break this down so most anyone can understand it. That's important, not just to me, but to the whole country, because what is being done by the CDC and the NIAID isn't really working so very well. I don't remember hearing of anyone who got the polio vaccine who got polio. I don't know of any of us who got the Smallpox vaccine getting smallpox, or Diptheria, or whooping cough, and standard vaccines for Parvo and Rabies have saved countless pets.

So why isn't the COVID vaccine working (any of them) better?

Why are we being told the immunity acquired from defeating the disease is no good?

Why are we being lied to about drugs that have been prescribed for, in some cases, over half a century?

Aside from trying to sell everyone on a vaccine that is "so good" they are threatening people's jobs over not getting it in an effort to coerce people to get it, there is a huge amount of control people will tolerate when they think they are going to be one of the 1-3 people in a thousand who get the disease and die from it (depending on their age group).

FEAR. That's the most dangerous epidemic of all.
This stuff is no more natural than nerve gas, just more deniable (and survivable, for most folks).
As for deferring to The Creator, He has given us the means to fight this abomination. Fear isn't a part of that regimen.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: DB on September 29, 2021, 10:17:43 pm
And why are we told that young children need the vaccine?

They clearly don't based on the fact that very very few have a serious reaction to the virus while gaining a much broader spectrum immunity to it.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: roamer_1 on September 29, 2021, 11:56:05 pm
   I agree with the @HikerGuy83 granted it's all in hindsight now but President Trump screwed up the pandemic response.  Mainly by leaving Fauci in charge and those who say Trump couldn't fire him, I say BS. The miraculous Ventilators mostly sit in warehouses or are given away to other countries.  They are the last thing Covid patients see in America because once you are put on the Ford built machine your chances of survival are <10%.  Data collected from all over the world show people getting the jabs are dying more often than those who refuse to participate in the scam.

   Trump, the con, was conned, it's as simple as that.


I will say that's right @corbe ... and I was FOR him at the start of it. He did good things calling on industry and moved mountains for them to rise to the occasion. He was right to try to create emergency licensing for first responders to extend beyond state lines and trying to mobilize health care workers and equipment.

But in the end, he followed Fauxi to hell and shut the whole country off.... And threw money at it, justifying even more spending we ain't got.

So you are right. in the end, he failed bigtime.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Absalom on September 30, 2021, 01:56:10 am
Well, I can talk politiks, but I are a scientist.
It's easy to slash your wrists with Occam's Razor. That happens, because sometimes life is complicated.
Basically, the researchers kludged the spike protein from a Bat coronavirus onto SARS to make SARS more infectious--in 2014, in North Carolina.
Gee whiz, it worked. it was not only more infectious than SARS, it attacks airway and lung cells, and is resistant to known patented antiviral medications.
They did the research with funding from NIAID, and when even the Obama Administration wanted it shut down, it was moved to Wuhan Institute of Virology, where two of the researchers were from.
They are even listed in the original web publication of the paper: Xing-Yi Ge: Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China and
Zhengli-Li Shi, also from the Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China I honestly believe that's why the medical community went all batsh*t crazy when someone (Dr Zelenko, for one) dug up information on how Zinc put the hurt on the original SARS virus, and figured out how to get it into the lung cells where it would do some good.
That's why the 60 year old antimalarial drug suddenly became the 'kiss of death' in the media (well, that, and Trump mentioned it as a possible treatment), because it works to move zinc into the lung cells. It turns out that Ivermectin will do the same thing (now being derided as "Horse medicine" in the media, but developed as an anti-parasitic drug for humans--and the developers won the Nobel Prize for that). That ability classes these drugs as ionophores (for moving ions through cell membranes) and there are others including Quercetin (an OTC dietary supplement), which do the same thing. The ion that is desirable to move is Zinc, and that will disrupt viral replication. The body cleans up the mess, and makes antibodies against the bits of virus, including the spike protein everyone talks about. Those antibodies are superior to the ones from the jabs because the whole virus, albeit broken up, was involved in their formation. (Incidentally, conventional vaccines, like the polio vaccine use dead virus bits to do the same thing, while the new jabs just use the spike proteins, and not the whole virus.)
That was unexpected by the folks who unveiled this pandemic in the US, by the researchers, so it had to be shut up.
When that didn't work, cancel culture went into hyperdrive and people got posts, then themselves banned from Facebook and other social media for contending that the drugs were not only not deadly to the vast majority of people in ordinary clinical doses, they were prescribed and FDA approved for anti-parasitic and anti-malarial use.  But the medical community crafted studies that purported to prove that these drugs were deadly, dangerous, and even ineffective, aided by leaving out the substance the drugs were supposed to get into the lung cells to stop the virus.
It's like saying "Fords are bad" and proving it by taking the tires off and leaving the gas tank dry and saying they won't run.
I'm not trying to baffle you with bullshit, nor bedazzle you with brilliance, just trying to break this down so most anyone can understand it. That's important, not just to me, but to the whole country, because what is being done by the CDC and the NIAID isn't really working so very well. I don't remember hearing of anyone who got the polio vaccine who got polio. I don't know of any of us who got the Smallpox vaccine getting smallpox, or Diphtheria, or whooping cough, and standard vaccines for Parvo and Rabies have saved countless pets.
So why isn't the COVID vaccine working (any of them) better?
Why are we being told the immunity acquired from defeating the disease is no good?
Why are we being lied to about drugs that have been prescribed for, in some cases, over half a century?
Aside from trying to sell everyone on a vaccine that is "so good" they are threatening people's jobs over not getting it in an effort to coerce people to get it, there is a huge amount of control people will tolerate when they think they are going to be one of the 1-3 people in a thousand who get the disease and die from it (depending on their age group).
FEAR. That's the most dangerous epidemic of all.
This stuff is no more natural than nerve gas, just more deniable (and survivable, for most folks).
As for deferring to The Creator, He has given us the means to fight this abomination. Fear isn't a part of that regimen.
-------------------------------
Well I ain't no scientist, simply a Philosopher from my days at Trinity, Dublin whose interest is the creativity of ideas.
The Ancient Greeks, who birthed Science, later followed by the Scholastics, were the greatest idea Men ever created
by the Almighty.
Any and all of them would easily see this Covid fandango for what it is: another of Nature's periodic upheavals that
has morphed into an abusive political football for our DC jackasses. Nothing further! 
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2021, 02:34:48 am
@Absalom

TBR is where great minds of different disciplines come together.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:03:16 am
Sydney Powell, along with the State of Texas and 26 other states have yet to receive their day in court which is where evidence is actually presented @HikerGuy83

At the rate they are going, we'll already be through another presidential election cycle.

Best of luck.

Call me when the trials start.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:06:19 am
Total BS @corbe and YOU know it!  Trump did not hire Fauci (he was already there when Trump took over)  and had Trump fired him the media would have gone bat shit crazy!

If that were the only thing that mattered, it might be worth arguing over.

It wasn't.

And so it isn't.

Trump screwed the pooch.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:08:40 am
Since I don't want the gummint to kiss every owie I get, I was not personally "let down" by Trump's response to the plague.  I leave that to the handwringers looking for something, anything to "blame" for November.  I prefer fact-based criticism, not "what could have been."  It's not knowable how many, if any votes were lost because of Trump's response to COVID or to Only Black Lives Matter riots.

At the moment, I am concerned about the election fraud, and that's not because I want the election reversed but rather because I'm pissed my own vote was diluted by Rats and RINOs.

What fraud.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:12:34 am
Why would he be disappointed? The Maricopa County results alone show votes which should never have been counted which numbered multiples of the alleged margin of victory for Biden  for the entire State--in just one county.

No way those results should have been certified. The results of the election as reported were bogus.

Yes, I keep hearing that.

But somehow, Joe Biden keeps showing up at presidential press conferences, Kamala Harris continues to jerk off half the country as a wanna be leader, we somehow lost the frigging senate, and our debt is soaring.

Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:14:04 am
I stand by my very first comment; "Wow".  Definitely nothing more further to discuss here.

I am also very glad that Trump support is 75,000,000 strong and we have people who recognize that the only chance that we have to save our Republic is from the ground up. 

Also conservative governors are becoming bolder and wiser.

Whether or not this will all equate to any significant change in the future is obviously unknown. I'm praying that the Lord Jesus Christ stops the evil that tends to be prevailing on this country. We need a miracle.

Got it.

People don't suck up to your POV....

Nothing more to discuss here.

No wonder we lost the senate too.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:20:51 am
@HikerGuy83

Ridiculous comment.  Trump got not only 1, but 3 vaccines in what it would normally take 5 years.  Also do you realize this is the first pandemic in a 100 years?  What kind of playbook should he have ran from.  It was all new ground, and his really only serious stupid move was putting Faucxi in the role where he was.

I was on industry pandemic task forces when before retirement several years ago. Based on the threat of H1N5.  Our contingency plans were shared with Obama administration, as were from several other industries.  Why didn't those documents get to the Trump administration?  The previous adminstration sabotaged DJT on several fronts.

Instead, how about giving me an idea, of how Trump could have shown  better leadership in light of 24/7 attacks from the media, Big Tech, and an oppostion party whose only purpose in life was to unseat him.  I think you were brainwashed by MSM's 24/7 squawking of death counts.....all atrributable to Trump

Voted for Trump twice.

Do it again.

Don't like him as a person though.

He showed no empathy.

No real command of the subject.

He stayed with his usual hyperbolic crap and.....

It failed him.

Better examples. 

1. He could have come to those briefings showing a little humility.  There were people dying.
2. He could have worked to not fight with the press.  I get that people at the extremes don't get what it means to actually care about everyone.....and he did a good job of showing he didn't.
3. His Easter opening comments were spot on.  The only problem, he made a statement....he didn't conduct a campaign like he and his moronic advisers should have.  They were constantly on the defensive.  For someone so confident, he really blew it.
4. I believe he missed a truly golden opportunity to reach out the moderate democrats by just making some concenssions, and, at least acknowlegding there were trade off in any approach. 
5. And on and on and on and on.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:24:20 am
-------------------------------
Well I ain't no scientist, simply a Philosopher from my days at Trinity, Dublin whose interest is the creativity of ideas.
The Ancient Greeks, who birthed Science, later followed by the Scholastics, were the greatest idea Men ever created
by the Almighty.
Any and all of them would easily see this Covid fandango for what it is: another of Natures periodic upheavals that has morphed into an abusive political football for our DC jackasses. Nothing further! 

Very informative.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:26:21 am
Trump could have handled COVID better

Yet another Democrat talking point that is now being posted here.  And just as on CNN, MSNBC, etc., it is a claim that remains unsubstantiated.

I ask again, @HikerGuy83 .  What could President Trump have done to handle Covid better?

Don't need democratic talking points to show me when the guy i voted for in 2016 was doing a truly piss-poor job in terms of leading this country.

You can keep up with you Saul Alinsky crap....does not matter to me.

I have very few conservative friends who don't agree with me on that point.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Absalom on September 30, 2021, 03:48:28 am
@Absalom
TBR is where great minds of different disciplines come together.
------------------------
Cyber,
Thank you for the encouragement which I hope I can live up to.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 30, 2021, 03:49:11 am
But somehow, Joe Biden keeps showing up at presidential press conferences, Kamala Harris continues to jerk off half the country as a wanna be leader, we somehow lost the frigging senate, and our debt is soaring.

@HikerGuy83

What does any of that have to do with the FACT that there were several times more illegal votes in Arizona than the number separating the two candidates?  So I ask a third time.  Should your definition of a 'fair election' include illegal votes?  Or let me put it another way.  Let's say two weeks after the election, Greenlee County discovered another 30,000 blank ballots that they determined were Trump votes, pushing his total in the county from 2,400 to 32,400,  giving Trump a 19,000 vote margin of victory.  Would you tell us that Trump won fair and square with those extra 30,000 blank ballots being tallied for Trump?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 30, 2021, 03:52:07 am
I have very few conservative friends who don't agree with me on that point.

I have many Conservative friends who were not happy at all with a lot of things that Trump did.  But not one of them believes that illegal ballots should be included in election totals.  Not one.  That's a marked contrast with what you have posted here.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: catfish1957 on September 30, 2021, 04:11:04 am


Better examples. 

1. He could have come to those briefings showing a little humility.  There were people dying.
2. He could have worked to not fight with the press.  I get that people at the extremes don't get what it means to actually care about everyone.....and he did a good job of showing he didn't.
3. His Easter opening comments were spot on.  The only problem, he made a statement....he didn't conduct a campaign like he and his moronic advisers should have.  They were constantly on the defensive.  For someone so confident, he really blew it.
4. I believe he missed a truly golden opportunity to reach out the moderate democrats by just making some concenssions, and, at least acknowlegding there were trade off in any approach. 
5. And on and on and on and on.

@HikerGuy83

To each point

1. I've screamed and yelled that Trump was a narcissist since the beginning, even before he was POTUS  But in the grand scheme of things, this really is an issue of style over substance.  You do realize that the press are experts in camera angles, editing, lighting, etc. to put someone in the very worst light.  I took corporate classes in Media Relations, and learned how the media can manipulate that process to make even Mother Teresa look like Hitler,.....if he press can control all technical aspects of the process.  With the presss hatred of Trump, you know they managed that event every time putting Trump at an disadvantage.  And to your issue of dying, and what you might percieve as a lack of empathy.  Managment 101 dictates that in times of war or other catastrophic crisis, a leadership style of strength and resolve is always the preference. You might have wanted a sobbing John Boehner type up there.....  But I'd prefer a George Patton when working through the first pandemic to hit this country in a 100 years.

2. There was never ever ever ever a scenario where the media was going to like or cooperate with Trump.  I am going to tell you a secret....  The MSM has been a dire enemy of right of wing presidents, and lawmakers for decades.  I actually admire Trump as finally being the first Republican to fight back.   The MSM are vile putrid creatures, who instead of being an objective peveryor of news, have become basically the American Pravda.  Why ever trust them?

3. I'll grant this one, but basically aligned with my earlier comment.  Trump's epidemiological response team  was inept, and devoid of any common sense  as far as strategic  Faucci and Birx could have done a better job throwing darts at a decison board.  But in Trump's (again) defense, we haven't had a pandemic in a 100 years.  And the dynamics of our modern society are nothing like 1918 either.  Also realize the same sleazy MSM were starting their stories every night with a morbid death count, while desperately trying to tie every death to Trump's responsibility.  200K have died from COVID on Biden's watch.  See any of he same press toward him as a killer of people?

4. Now that's funny. You realize that any cooperation by any percieved moderate Dem's would be bitch slapped by Pelosi or Schumer.
Here's a stat that might interest you.

DJT 1st impeachment democratic vote tally House 229-2 and 228-3
       1st conviction  democratic vote tall Senate 47-0 and 47-0

DJT 2nd impeachment democratic vote tally House 220-0
       2nd conviction democratic vote tally Senate- 50-0

Any cooperation with the democrats was pointless, and any attempt just would have slowed down his agenda.

5.  On and on?  How about elaborating?  Even brief bullet points would do, because expected a better case to be presented.  Honestly, 90% of your argument and gripes are around how the media has controled the narrative of how he is viewed, and his leadership style.  Is he boorish, belligerent, and narcissistic?  Sure, but contrast what he was and what was done versus what we have now.  I'll take a mean Trump a million times out of a million versus the  dementia stricken idiot we have now.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 30, 2021, 04:40:22 am
@HikerGuy83

Honestly, 90% of your argument and gripes are around how the media has controlled the narrative of how he is viewed, and his leadership style.  Is he boorish, belligerent, and narcissistic?  Sure, but contrast what he was and what was done versus what we have now.

And none of that has a thing to do with the fairness of including tens of thousands of illegal votes in the Arizona election total.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: DB on September 30, 2021, 04:40:33 am
One of the biggest Trump failures regarding Covid was keeping the executive branch within constitutional limits. He alone had the authority to do so.

A perfect example is the CDC's eviction moratorium.

He should have explained that constitutionally the states hold the primary authority in how to respond to Covid. That the federal government could help secure resources as needed but was constitutionally restricted from one size fits all mandates.

Instead he deferred to the "experts" missing the larger picture. There were other considerations beyond "science" that required leadership. Science itself is devoid of morality and liberty.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: catfish1957 on September 30, 2021, 05:17:22 am
And none of that has a thing to do with the fairness of including tens of thousands of illegal votes in the Arizona election total.

Don't blame me for the "Thread Jack".  I have no idea how we strayed.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 30, 2021, 05:25:15 am
Don't blame me for the "Thread Jack".  I have no idea how we strayed.

Reply #2 (https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,435595.msg2422477.html#msg2422477)
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 01:14:17 pm
I have many Conservative friends who were not happy at all with a lot of things that Trump did.  But not one of them believes that illegal ballots should be included in election totals.  Not one.  That's a marked contrast with what you have posted here.

I don't recall saying anything about the election in my post.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 30, 2021, 01:29:33 pm
One of the biggest Trump failures regarding Covid was keeping the executive branch within constitutional limits. He alone had the authority to do so.

A perfect example is the CDC's eviction moratorium.

He should have explained that constitutionally the states hold the primary authority in how to respond to Covid. That the federal government could help secure resources as needed but was constitutionally restricted from one size fits all mandates.

Instead he deferred to the "experts" missing the larger picture. There were other considerations beyond "science" that required leadership. Science itself is devoid of morality and liberty.
Thats a fair assessment. The only response is with the pandemic we were definitely breaking new ground but thats not much of a defense.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on September 30, 2021, 01:46:16 pm
I don't recall saying anything about the election in my post.

Then why is it on this thread?  Seems to me the topic is the Arizona audit of Maricopa County.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2021, 01:56:08 pm
What fraud.

The question I expect from a troll who doesn't bother reading his own threads.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: catfish1957 on September 30, 2021, 02:10:19 pm
The question I expect from a troll who doesn't bother reading his own threads.

Saw recent poll that over a 1/3 of the country knows (believes) that the Biden stole the election.  The other 2/3 are sheeple who will believe anything the MSM tells them.  Afraid we have a few those of our own.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 30, 2021, 02:17:12 pm
Saw recent poll that over a 1/3 of the country knows (believes) that the Biden stole the election.  The other 2/3 are sheeple who will believe anything the MSM tells them.  Afraid we have a few those of our own.
Try as they may they won't be able to stuff that cat back in it's bag. This past election will surpass 1960 as being synonymous with stolen elections.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 02:22:31 pm
Then why is it on this thread?  Seems to me the topic is the Arizona audit of Maricopa County.

The topic is Trump statement that it should be interesting.

So far, it's been anything but.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on September 30, 2021, 02:22:44 pm
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Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 02:23:44 pm
The question I expect from a troll who doesn't bother reading his own threads.

I've read every post here.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 30, 2021, 02:33:45 pm
This thread is loaded with facts.

Not
Gee, for a guy who's so thin skinned you sure are snarky:)

Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 02:35:02 pm
The point is to prove there were illegal shenanigans, which will show us how to fix the election laws in Arizona so it doesn't happen again.  It's important to note that while an audit could vindicate what Donald Trump has been saying, we're not doing it for him. It really is "for the people," and the Rats don't want us to eat that lunch.

As for where to get better information, just abut any of the articles you see posted here are etter than the fishwrap I mentioned.

And here it is the end of September. 

11 months after the election.

I wonder what the GOP will be doing to avoid this same kind of drawn out process.

My life has been really busy.

Is there anything being done to shore up our elections.

Our current process can't handle this.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 30, 2021, 02:44:57 pm
Is there anything being done to shore up our elections.

Our current process can't handle this.

The first step is to identify the problems, all of which you continue to deny.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 02:46:17 pm
@HikerGuy83

5.  On and on?  How about elaborating?  Even brief bullet points would do, because expected a better case to be presented.  Honestly, 90% of your argument and gripes are around how the media has controled the narrative of how he is viewed, and his leadership style.  Is he boorish, belligerent, and narcissistic?  Sure, but contrast what he was and what was done versus what we have now.  I'll take a mean Trump a million times out of a million versus the  dementia stricken idiot we have now.

You missed the repeated threads where I said:

1. I voted for Trump twice.
2. I'd do it again given the chance.

You can control what you can control.  The media exists as it is.  Unless we get a better medium in place, they will behave like this for some time.

We are in a state where the unconstrained elites (love Thomas Sowell's book "A Conflict Of Visions".

You deal with it.

But saying you don't like it and not adapting is a failure.

The election should never have been close. 

Had it been held pre-Covid.....Trump would have wiped whoever the dimwits on the left put up (like Reagan creamed Mondale).

Trump didn't just shoot himself in the foot.....he took us down too.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 02:49:39 pm
Try as they may they won't be able to stuff that cat back in it's bag. This past election will surpass 1960 as being synonymous with stolen elections.

At one point, over half the country called Jan 6 an insurrection.

Seems like that one has calmed down....thank heavens.

I don't have much use for these kinds of polls in terms of them proving anything.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 02:56:01 pm
The point is to prove there were illegal shenanigans, which will show us how to fix the election laws in Arizona so it doesn't happen again.  It's important to note that while an audit could vindicate what Donald Trump has been saying, we're not doing it for him. It really is "for the people," and the Rats don't want us to eat that lunch.

As for where to get better information, just abut any of the articles you see posted here are etter than the fishwrap I mentioned.

I wanted to go back and revisit this point which I think is critical.

It is clear that many on this board don't agree.....they are calling for decertification.

Even the GOP is not behaving as if this were the case.

Kelli Ward seems to be leading the charge (just so I am clear....this is an observation....not a criticism......).

I am 100% on board with getting this sorted out in terms of issues we need to address going forward.

If we stay stuck in 2020, we'll blow 2022 and 2024.

Just remembered a thread was started not long ago.....about someone calliing for decertification....

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,449592.0.html
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 30, 2021, 03:00:12 pm
At one point, over half the country called Jan 6 an insurrection.

Seems like that one has calmed down....thank heavens.

I don't have much use for these kinds of polls in terms of them proving anything.

Its a mistake to put too much stock in polls generally but there have been a number on this subject, not necessarily from right leaning sources. Clearly a very significant portion of the country believe this election was stolen.

With these new revelations, and probably more to come, that figure will only increase.

The rats have been gaming the electoral system for decades. Why would anyone who considers themselves a Republican possibly object to the scrutiny the last election is getting?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on September 30, 2021, 03:04:38 pm
Its a mistake to put too much stock in polls generally but there have been a number on this subject, not necessarily from right leaning sources. Clearly a very significant portion of the country believe this election was stolen.

With these new revelations, and probably more to come, that figure will only increase.

The rats have been gaming the electoral system for decades. Why would anyone who considers themselves a Republican possibly object to the scrutiny the last election is getting?

I continue to wonder where we might be today had SCOTUS done its job back in December of 2020.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2021, 03:05:28 pm
I've read every post here.

You say you hear, but you aren't listening. 
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 30, 2021, 03:06:56 pm
I continue to wonder where we might be today had SCOTUS done its job back in December of 2020.
One of several safeguards that let us down. Not a profile in courage.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on September 30, 2021, 03:09:52 pm
You missed the repeated threads where I said:

1. I voted for Trump twice.

I don't believe you. And that's coming from someone who did not vote for Trump twice.


2. I'd do it again given the chance.

You have the chance to do that now.  Your alleged 2020 Trump vote was cancelled out by at least 5 illegal votes.  By decertifying the fraudulent vote, you have the chance for your vote to count by eliminating illegal ballots and allowing your State to certify a legitimate winner.  Yet you have shown nothing but contempt for the entire process.  Again, I do not believe what you say.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 30, 2021, 03:41:36 pm
-------------------------------
Well I ain't no scientist, simply a Philosopher from my days at Trinity, Dublin whose interest is the creativity of ideas.
The Ancient Greeks, who birthed Science, later followed by the Scholastics, were the greatest idea Men ever created
by the Almighty.
Any and all of them would easily see this Covid fandango for what it is: another of Nature's periodic upheavals that
has morphed into an abusive political football for our DC jackasses. Nothing further!
Nature didn't make this pathogen, any more than it whipped up H-bombs.

It will carry the fallout from either, though.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:43:21 pm
You say you hear, but you aren't listening. 

I said I've read every post on this board.

Nothing more.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 30, 2021, 03:44:17 pm
Yes, I keep hearing that.

But somehow, Joe Biden keeps showing up at presidential press conferences, Kamala Harris continues to jerk off half the country as a wanna be leader, we somehow lost the frigging senate, and our debt is soaring.
Considering elections are now something that is meaningless if the Democrats decide to cheat, what would you propose we do about that?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 03:49:54 pm
You say you hear, but you aren't listening. 

While I have different perspectives, I am curious to know if your position remains as you stated (I quoted you about 10 posts prior to this) that this isn't about Trump, but about the process.

Have you seen me disagree with that.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 30, 2021, 04:06:49 pm
You missed the repeated threads where I said:

1. I voted for Trump twice.
2. I'd do it again given the chance.

You can control what you can control.  The media exists as it is.  Unless we get a better medium in place, they will behave like this for some time.

We are in a state where the unconstrained elites (love Thomas Sowell's book "A Conflict Of Visions".

You deal with it.

But saying you don't like it and not adapting is a failure.

The election should never have been close. 

Had it been held pre-Covid.....Trump would have wiped whoever the dimwits on the left put up (like Reagan creamed Mondale).

Trump didn't just shoot himself in the foot.....he took us down too.
COVID was the crisis the Democrats used to justify mail out ballots, ballot harvesting, unmonitored drop boxes, and other mechanisms by which the election fraud was perpetrated.

Never let a crisis go to waste, and they did not.

Which raises the question, at least in my mind, of whether the release of the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen from the lab in Wuhan was a biowar act to place the US (and the world) in credible crisis for the entire last year of the Trump administration.

Considering the economic effects of the actions taken, that no matter what Trump did the media could present it as a failure, and the ridiculous media full court press against known and long approved drugs which (I will contend, along with swarms of medical professionals) have value as part of treatment regimens which have proven effective in clinical settings, the entire putsch was to enact election rules (unconstitutionally, on many occasions) which facilitated the counting and generation of illegal votes.

Looking back there were field hospitals erected to take care of patient overflows, and two hospital ships deployed to handle pateints as well. All went underutilized, despite the media and political claims of being in crisis. New York claimed to be running out of ventilators, based on projections (not patient numbers or actual utilization) and Trump enlisted the aid of manufacturing to provide more (it turned out there were thousands on the shelf, in storage when the panic laced cry of running out was issued).

Economic incentive was provided to care for patients who had COVID, but claiming a decedent had died of COVID meant funding, and the result of that is that patients who died of other problems (getting run over by a truck or multiple gunshot wounds) were written up as COVID victims to collect. Get an extra $24,000 just to wheel them in the ICU and hook them up. It would take a major effort to go back and list all the shenanigans surrounding COVID, but almost all of that was focused on provoking FEAR and PANIC, because a panicked populace is not thinking clearly, any more than a herd of buffalo heading for a cliff.

Sad to say, but that crap worked and is STILL working.

Over a bug that has a 99.97% survival rate.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 30, 2021, 04:08:22 pm
I continue to wonder where we might be today had SCOTUS done its job back in December of 2020.
And there it is. pointing-up
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 04:13:48 pm
COVID was the crisis the Democrats used to justify mail out ballots, ballot harvesting, unmonitored drop boxes, and other mechanisms by which the election fraud was perpetrated.

Never let a crisis go to waste, and they did not.

Which raises the question, at least in my mind, of whether the release of the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen from the lab in Wuhan was a biowar act to place the US (and the world) in credible crisis for the entire last year of the Trump administration.

Considering the economic effects of the actions taken, that no matter what Trump did the media could present it as a failure, and the ridiculous media full court press against known and long approved drugs which (I will contend, along with swarms of medical professionals) have value as part of treatment regimens which have proven effective in clinical settings, the entire putsch was to enact election rules (unconstitutionally, on many occasions) which facilitated the counting and generation of illegal votes.

Looking back there were field hospitals erected to take care of patient overflows, and two hospital ships deployed to handle pateints as well. All went underutilized, despite the media and political claims of being in crisis. New York claimed to be running out of ventilators, based on projections (not patient numbers or actual utilization) and Trump enlisted the aid of manufacturing to provide more (it turned out there were thousands on the shelf, in storage when the panic laced cry of running out was issued).

Economic incentive was provided to care for patients who had COVID, but claiming a decedent had died of COVID meant funding, and the result of that is that patients who died of other problems (getting run over by a truck or multiple gunshot wounds) were written up as COVID victims to collect. Get an extra $24,000 just to wheel them in the ICU and hook them up. It would take a major effort to go back and list all the shenanigans surrounding COVID, but almost all of that was focused on provoking FEAR and PANIC, because a panicked populace is not thinking clearly, any more than a herd of buffalo heading for a cliff.

Sad to say, but that crap worked and is STILL working.

Over a bug that has a 99.97% survival rate.  **nononono*

I believe we are on the same page in many ways.

It's not about what you did....it's about people's perceptions.

And Trump lost control of that narrative (and while he was never going to be called an angel), I believe (please see this is my opinion...we'll never know because we don't get to run the scenario) he could have fared better had he adapted and modified his approach to:

The way he battled with the press (I hate the press)
The way he conducted himself with respect to what was happening (to much hyperbole still......which gets less of a pass when people are dying).
Dropping his battles with Pelosi and reaching to America.

I used to call it a scamdemic......I don't now.....but it does not mean I still don't feel that way.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 30, 2021, 04:16:51 pm
COVID was the crisis the Democrats used to justify mail out ballots, ballot harvesting, unmonitored drop boxes, and other mechanisms by which the election fraud was perpetrated.

Never let a crisis go to waste, and they did not.

Which raises the question, at least in my mind, of whether the release of the SARS-CoV-2 pathogen from the lab in Wuhan was a biowar act to place the US (and the world) in credible crisis for the entire last year of the Trump administration.

Considering the economic effects of the actions taken, that no matter what Trump did the media could present it as a failure, and the ridiculous media full court press against known and long approved drugs which (I will contend, along with swarms of medical professionals) have value as part of treatment regimens which have proven effective in clinical settings, the entire putsch was to enact election rules (unconstitutionally, on many occasions) which facilitated the counting and generation of illegal votes.

Looking back there were field hospitals erected to take care of patient overflows, and two hospital ships deployed to handle pateints as well. All went underutilized, despite the media and political claims of being in crisis. New York claimed to be running out of ventilators, based on projections (not patient numbers or actual utilization) and Trump enlisted the aid of manufacturing to provide more (it turned out there were thousands on the shelf, in storage when the panic laced cry of running out was issued).

Economic incentive was provided to care for patients who had COVID, but claiming a decedent had died of COVID meant funding, and the result of that is that patients who died of other problems (getting run over by a truck or multiple gunshot wounds) were written up as COVID victims to collect. Get an extra $24,000 just to wheel them in the ICU and hook them up. It would take a major effort to go back and list all the shenanigans surrounding COVID, but almost all of that was focused on provoking FEAR and PANIC, because a panicked populace is not thinking clearly, any more than a herd of buffalo heading for a cliff.

Sad to say, but that crap worked and is STILL working.

Over a bug that has a 99.97% survival rate.  **nononono*
consider the tens of billions of dollars and power centers at stake in the outcome of the election. To cling to the fallacy that powerful interests at home and abroad would leave the re-election of the singular source of the threat to the vote of the rabble when the means to control the outcome of the election is at hand is dangerously naive. Or patently dishonest.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Bigun on September 30, 2021, 04:25:00 pm
Consider the tens of billions of dollars and power centers at stake in the outcome of the election. To cling to the fallacy that powerful interests at home and abroad would leave the re-election of the singular source of the threat to the vote of the rabble when the means to control the outcome of the election is at hand is dangerously naive. Or patently dishonest.

Made it bigger so people could see it!
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on September 30, 2021, 04:28:11 pm
Made it bigger so people could see it!
:hattip:
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2021, 04:39:58 pm
I said I've read every post on this board.

Nothing more.

Your agreement with the post you quoted is noted and appreciated.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 05:04:46 pm
Your agreement with the post you quoted is noted and appreciated.

Where do you see the word agree in my post ?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 30, 2021, 05:58:03 pm
I believe we are on the same page in many ways.

It's not about what you did....it's about people's perceptions.

And Trump lost control of that narrative (and while he was never going to be called an angel), I believe (please see this is my opinion...we'll never know because we don't get to run the scenario) he could have fared better had he adapted and modified his approach to:

The way he battled with the press (I hate the press)
The way he conducted himself with respect to what was happening (to much hyperbole still......which gets less of a pass when people are dying).
Dropping his battles with Pelosi and reaching to America.

I used to call it a scamdemic......I don't now.....but it does not mean I still don't feel that way.

There is a lot of scam involved, still. Getting a virus through an N-95 mask is like throwing a BB through an open Boxcar door.

People who work with those pathogens work in a negative pressure lab in full suits with piped in air, at a pressure slightly greater than that in the lab in case there's a breach. BSL-4 protocols are so far from wearing a rag across your face and using hand sanitized, it isn't even close.

and lest we forget, Trump's loss of control over the narrative was engineered, too.

He was banned from Twitter.

The significance of that should not be lost, a sitting President was denied direct access to the Media for the first time in US History.
Aside from all the editing, video with voice over commentary, twisted statements, and the like already being done by the Demomedia, that's the level of outright censorship that was required to keep him from having a major presence.

And the Democrats/communists/globalists, whatever you want to call them, (I like Traitors, although that can be debated), want everyone to think there are no alternatives to their platforms and are doing all they can to suppress the truth.

It's why I commonly link medical journal articles to back up things I have said about COVID here. When the scientific journals become completely compromised, there will be no truth in them and the medical profession, except for the surgeons and osteopaths, will be done as a relevant realm of scientific inquiry, because the politicians will have corrupted the information out there, and the research.

We have seen that with "Climate Science".

We're already seeing some of that in the medical field with statements from the CDC which indicate that chosen behaviour patterns in some populations are "epidemic", be that addiction (a choice, ultimately) or violence (also a choice). while they may be on the rise, that does not mean that either opioids or firearms are diseases--neither is.

Unless there is a lot of pushback by the Doctors against the hijacking of the Medical field for political purposes, the medical field will become useless against disease any time the health of humans comes into conflict with the political aims of those suppressing and distorting the truth.

We saw this in the early assessments of the use of Hydroxychloroquine against COVID, where the use of Hydroxychloroquine was intended to be just one part of a three part regimen against the disease, but only Hydroxychloroquine was tested and the other parts of that regimen were left out, and where the treatment regimen was intended to be an early onset therapy designed to stop the virus from replicating, in the studies was administered to only patients who were hospitalized and even already on a ventilator.

The context of the assessment, and the absence of the full protocol were designed to show treatment as ineffective, and those who were still assessing that treatment were thwarted by the drugs being made unavailable to the degree that those who had on label use prescriptions for Hydroxychloroquine (lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis, for a couple) were having trouble getting those prescriptions filled.

If doctors protested that treatment of the treatment, the press attacked the doctors.  :shrug:

The Media are public enemy number one.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 30, 2021, 05:59:34 pm
consider the tens of billions of dollars and power centers at stake in the outcome of the election. To cling to the fallacy that powerful interests at home and abroad would leave the re-election of the singular source of the threat to the vote of the rabble when the means to control the outcome of the election is at hand is dangerously naive. Or patently dishonest.
QFT!
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on September 30, 2021, 06:48:42 pm
There is a lot of scam involved, still. Getting a virus through an N-95 mask is like throwing a BB through an open Boxcar door.

People who work with those pathogens work in a negative pressure lab in full suits with piped in air, at a pressure slightly greater than that in the lab in case there's a breach. BSL-4 protocols are so far from wearing a rag across your face and using hand sanitized, it isn't even close.

and lest we forget, Trump's loss of control over the narrative was engineered, too.

He was banned from Twitter.

The significance of that should not be lost, a sitting President was denied direct access to the Media for the first time in US History.
Aside from all the editing, video with voice over commentary, twisted statements, and the like already being done by the Demomedia, that's the level of outright censorship that was required to keep him from having a major presence.

And the Democrats/communists/globalists, whatever you want to call them, (I like Traitors, although that can be debated), want everyone to think there are no alternatives to their platforms and are doing all they can to suppress the truth.

It's why I commonly link medical journal articles to back up things I have said about COVID here. When the scientific journals become completely compromised, there will be no truth in them and the medical profession, except for the surgeons and osteopaths, will be done as a relevant realm of scientific inquiry, because the politicians will have corrupted the information out there, and the research.

We have seen that with "Climate Science".

We're already seeing some of that in the medical field with statements from the CDC which indicate that chosen behaviour patterns in some populations are "epidemic", be that addiction (a choice, ultimately) or violence (also a choice). while they may be on the rise, that does not mean that either opioids or firearms are diseases--neither is.

Unless there is a lot of pushback by the Doctors against the hijacking of the Medical field for political purposes, the medical field will become useless against disease any time the health of humans comes into conflict with the political aims of those suppressing and distorting the truth.

We saw this in the early assessments of the use of Hydroxychloroquine against COVID, where the use of Hydroxychloroquine was intended to be just one part of a three part regimen against the disease, but only Hydroxychloroquine was tested and the other parts of that regimen were left out, and where the treatment regimen was intended to be an early onset therapy designed to stop the virus from replicating, in the studies was administered to only patients who were hospitalized and even already on a ventilator.

The context of the assessment, and the absence of the full protocol were designed to show treatment as ineffective, and those who were still assessing that treatment were thwarted by the drugs being made unavailable to the degree that those who had on label use prescriptions for Hydroxychloroquine (lupus and Rheumatoid Arthritis, for a couple) were having trouble getting those prescriptions filled.

If doctors protested that treatment of the treatment, the press attacked the doctors.  :shrug:

The Media are public enemy number one.

I agree with most of what you said.

I don't disagree with any of it.

Some, I just don't know much about.....
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Absalom on October 01, 2021, 12:51:13 am
COVID was the crisis the Democrats used to justify mail out ballots, ballot harvesting, unmonitored drop boxes, and other mechanisms by which the election fraud was perpetrated.
----------------------------
Hmm.............inclusive list indeed.
Yet the California Wildfires, excessive eastern rainfall, turbulent equities markets and falling mortgage rates
are hardly blameless in this entire fandango.














Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on October 09, 2021, 04:16:45 pm
The Media are public enemy number one.

In my estimation, they are out and out enemies of  conservatives.

They are elitist creeps.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: catfish1957 on October 09, 2021, 05:22:42 pm
In my estimation, they are out and out enemies of  conservatives.

They are elitist creeps.

And should be held first for the purge.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on October 09, 2021, 05:33:09 pm

The Media are public enemy number one.
Aint that the truth.

Not because they’ve become political or lean left, but because they’ve become an eager conduit for lies in a nation who’s survival depends upon an informed public.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: roamer_1 on October 09, 2021, 10:40:35 pm
Aint that the truth.

Not because they’ve become political or lean left, but because they’ve become an eager conduit for lies in a nation who’s survival depends upon an informed public.

NOPE. MSM can spout lies all day long, but in the end it's just words.

Big government can put a gun to your head and steal every right from you.
Were that government trimmed down to size, what the MSM wants wouldn't amount to a row of pins.

Lest we ere forget... The enemy is big government.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 09, 2021, 10:45:28 pm
NOPE. MSM can spout lies all day long, but in the end it's just words.

Big government can put a gun to your head and steal every right from you.
Were that government trimmed down to size, what the MSM wants wouldn't amount to a row of pins.

Lest we ere forget... The enemy is big government.

Because if the never-ending stream of propaganda, we are now also enemies of half the country.  Don't be too quick to write of the MSM as the cause.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: roamer_1 on October 10, 2021, 03:40:16 am
Because if the never-ending stream of propaganda, we are now also enemies of half the country.  Don't be too quick to write of the MSM as the cause.

You want to get rid of propaganda, the sh*t that counts is the indoctrination of the yoots...

Again. GOVERNMENT.

Dry up the money and the power vanishes.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 10, 2021, 03:56:27 am
You want to get rid of propaganda, the sh*t that counts is the indoctrination of the yoots...

Again. GOVERNMENT.

Dry up the money and the power vanishes.

And I say you cannot ignore the propaganda machine called the Press.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Hoodat on October 10, 2021, 04:34:19 am
You want to get rid of propaganda, the sh*t that counts is the indoctrination of the yoots...

Again. GOVERNMENT.

Dry up the money and the power vanishes.

Word.  It will be amazing to see how good things get just by cutting government spending down to 18% of GDP (which is still too high).
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: catfish1957 on October 10, 2021, 05:27:45 am
And I say you cannot ignore the propaganda machine called the Press.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

I'll give the blame 90/10 to the MSM.  Polticians will be politicans...its always been that way.

Overall lying and misrepresenting the news to this magnitude is a relatively new phenomenom. Like I said earlier....  they need to be the first strung up
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: roamer_1 on October 10, 2021, 06:04:17 am
Word.  It will be amazing to see how good things get just by cutting government spending down to 18% of GDP (which is still too high).

With laser focus. All else is chasing after shadows.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 10, 2021, 11:11:27 am
And I say you cannot ignore the propaganda machine called the Press.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.
The press, from the Weekly Reader on up the food chain is the drum which beats lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie...

It is quoted by every teacher, even believed by them, it makes mountains of molehills, distorts reality, twists words, invents its own facts, and gets the LIE around the world multiple times before the truth even knows it has been schtupped.

It takes more than a few jerks with snazzy outfits and brightly colored armbands to get people on cattle cars and in the ovens--it takes a press that will condition the populace to believe that this is a good thing, even though deep down they know its wrong.
It takes the press to gin up the broad based hatred that makes people spit on children, beat the elderly to death in the streets, justify stealing the honestly acquired fruits of decades of labor.

Because without that constant drumbeat, without the lies, pervasive and persistent, in public, in private, woven into "entertainment", plastered on every blank wall, the LIE could not stand.

And once enough people believe the LIE, government need do nothing.
Just stand back and let hatred take its course.

Without the LIE, without the media to propagate it, to promote it, to perpetuate it, Government would be nothing.
Without that mental artillery bombardment, many more people would just say NO, and put it back in its cage.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: roamer_1 on October 10, 2021, 04:41:25 pm
Without the LIE, without the media to propagate it, to promote it, to perpetuate it, Government would be nothing.
Without that mental artillery bombardment, many more people would just say NO, and put it back in its cage.

To what end, Smoke? The media is a many headed hydra with government protection. What are you going to do to them outside of whining and crying and throwing dirt in the air? Really, all that you CAN do is offer refutation through alternative sources - Which WAS happening not very long ago.

But government... You CAN do against government. And the ENTIRE focus should be toward cutting the beast off at the knees. You do that with serious Conservatives getting elected in red states, ground up, grassroots... And if you build that kind of momentum, next thing you know you have MANY orthodox Conservatives that can rise to defund and stop spending. Where would we be right now with 40 or so rock-ribbed Conservatives in the senate and a hundred or more in the house?

I am deadly serious. Absolutely anything else is distraction.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Kamaji on October 10, 2021, 05:04:09 pm
To what end, Smoke? The media is a many headed hydra with government protection. What are you going to do to them outside of whining and crying and throwing dirt in the air? Really, all that you CAN do is offer refutation through alternative sources - Which WAS happening not very long ago.

But government... You CAN do against government. And the ENTIRE focus should be toward cutting the beast off at the knees. You do that with serious Conservatives getting elected in red states, ground up, grassroots... And if you build that kind of momentum, next thing you know you have MANY orthodox Conservatives that can rise to defund and stop spending. Where would we be right now with 40 or so rock-ribbed Conservatives in the senate and a hundred or more in the house?

I am deadly serious. Absolutely anything else is distraction.

Media can be cut back down to a more appropriate size by cutting down social media.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: roamer_1 on October 10, 2021, 05:17:57 pm
Media can be cut back down to a more appropriate size by cutting down social media.

That's a pipe dream... And be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Kamaji on October 10, 2021, 05:25:36 pm
That's a pipe dream... And be careful what you wish for.

In what way?  On both accounts.  The individual propaganda outlets are bad enough, but their vitriol and ability to suppress dissent come from the social media platforms.  Cut those down and the hypercharged vitriol and suppression begins to weaken.  How to cut them down?  Start by removing all protection from liability for libel and copyright protection, period.  Their so-called "fact checkers" will then be put to the task of weeding out libel and copyright violations, rather than suppressing political dissent.  That will cause them to shrink, and will begin to open the market to alternative providers, particularly if the benefits of the current protections only apply to organizations that have gross revenues of $1 million or less.

Next, get sensible with anti-trust enforcement again.  Alphabet (i.e., Google), Facebook, and Amazon would have been sliced and diced back down to size in the 1980s and 1990s, and that should be the norm again.

one man on the corner with a soapbox is an annoyance, give that man a megaphone, and he becomes truly irritating to those on the block, but give him a Wall of Sound (metaphorically) and he will overburden the entire city.

No more metaphoric walls of sound for social media.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on October 10, 2021, 05:37:06 pm
Because if the never-ending stream of propaganda, we are now also enemies of half the country.  Don't be too quick to write of the MSM as the cause.

This statement confuses me a little.

I am in the same camp  that they are truly a large issue that must be addressed (countered).

If you don't think it is the MSM,  then who might you be thinking ?
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on October 10, 2021, 05:38:42 pm
In what way?  On both accounts.  The individual propaganda outlets are bad enough, but their vitriol and ability to suppress dissent come from the social media platforms.  Cut those down and the hypercharged vitriol and suppression begins to weaken.  How to cut them down?  Start by removing all protection from liability for libel and copyright protection, period.  Their so-called "fact checkers" will then be put to the task of weeding out libel and copyright violations, rather than suppressing political dissent.  That will cause them to shrink, and will begin to open the market to alternative providers, particularly if the benefits of the current protections only apply to organizations that have gross revenues of $1 million or less.

Next, get sensible with anti-trust enforcement again.  Alphabet (i.e., Google), Facebook, and Amazon would have been sliced and diced back down to size in the 1980s and 1990s, and that should be the norm again.

one man on the corner with a soapbox is an annoyance, give that man a megaphone, and he becomes truly irritating to those on the block, but give him a Wall of Sound (metaphorically) and he will overburden the entire city.

No more metaphoric walls of sound for social media.

While you work to do that, maybe you should (meaning we should) be working to develop a more realistic counter that can be trusted.  That isn't Sean Hannity.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 10, 2021, 05:41:56 pm
This statement confuses me a little.

I am in the same camp  that they are truly a large issue that must be addressed (countered).

If you don't think it is the MSM,  then who might you be thinking ?

Either I mistyped or you misread.  I do blame the MSM, and also the turning of our schools into Marxist indoctrination centers.

Both are true.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on October 10, 2021, 05:45:16 pm
Either I mistyped or you misread.  I do blame the MSM, and also the turning of our schools into Marxist indoctrination centers.

Both are true.

O.K. Thanks for the clarrification.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: roamer_1 on October 10, 2021, 05:49:33 pm
In what way?

They cannot be sued. End of story. So what are you going to do?

AGAIN... Focus on a congress jealous of its powers - A congress stuffed full of Conservatives, and you can bet money you'll e able to sue them. Because Conservatives will call them publishers editing their wares, and thus open to suit.

So the object of the exercise remains the same. Conservative Congress.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 10, 2021, 06:01:41 pm
O.K. Thanks for the clarrification.

:beer:
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: skeeter on October 10, 2021, 06:06:57 pm
Because if the never-ending stream of propaganda, we are now also enemies of half the country. 
We are. A representative republic cannot work when voters are deprived of facts needed to make informed decisions. Blame lies with the media & our educational system.

Most Americans do not want to be ruled by an authoritarian oligopoly yet this is who, in our collective ignorance, we've put in power.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 10, 2021, 10:41:11 pm
We are. A representative republic cannot work when voters are deprived of facts needed to make informed decisions. Blame lies with the media & our educational system.

Most Americans do not want to be ruled by an authoritarian oligopoly yet this is who, in our collective ignorance, we've put in power.
The first step is to remember and remind others that these are our EMPLOYEES, NOT OUR RULERS!
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on October 11, 2021, 12:05:42 am
The first step is to remember and remind others that these are our EMPLOYEES, NOT OUR RULERS!

They certainly have managed to change that narrative.

By getting people hooked on the nanny state and demonizing those who support liberty (risky business having to account for your decisions), they've created an army of left-wing zombies.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: HikerGuy83 on October 21, 2021, 06:18:00 pm
Does not seem so interesting anymore.

Not that it ever was.
Title: Re: Trump: Results of Election Audit “Will be Very Interesting”
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 23, 2021, 02:15:19 pm
Does not seem so interesting anymore.

Not that it ever was.
Not if you listen to the people who didn't read the audit.

If tens of thousands of votes which should never have been counted don't seem interesting, then just keep moving, nothing to see here, and those who understand what has been disclosed will take up the yoke.