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General Category => Trump Legal Investigations => Topic started by: jmyrlefuller on March 29, 2021, 02:14:13 am
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/3/25/22350378/sidney-powell-admits-lie-mona-charen
by Mona Charen
March 25, 2021
Appearing on Newsmax on Nov. 17, Powell said she had a video showing Dominion founder John Poulos bragging, “I can change a million votes, no problem at all.†The video did not exist.
At a press conference with Rudy Giuliani and others, Powell said Dominion had been “created in Venezuela by Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election.†She said the machines had an algorithm that automatically flipped votes, and that George Soros’ “No. 2 person†was “one of the leaders of the Dominion project.†Also false.
Her tone has changed.
The reply Powell’s lawyers issued to Dominion’s complaint is a climb down. After challenging the court’s jurisdiction and venue (standard lawyer maneuvers) and adding the claim that her comments were First Amendment-protected political speech, they get to the substance and things get truly mind-bending.
But Powell takes it to another level. She next argues that the very outlandishness of her false statements is a defense. Sure, her reply acknowledges, Powell had said, “Democrats were attempting to steal the election and had developed a computer system to alter votes electronically.†But “no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact.â€
(excerpt)
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Now perhaps, folks will have an understanding why you don't try cases in the court of Public Opinion.
The WHOLE THING was bullcrap.
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Now perhaps, folks will have an understanding why you don't try cases in the court of Public Opinion.
The WHOLE THING was bullcrap.
Except the fact that the attack on the capitol was not done by Trump supporters, but was planned by leftists....there is video to prove it.
States still have rights to challenge certification. States continued counting votes after the election was over and some wouldn't let the GOP in. That's not made up bullcrap.
Cruz had an obligation to challenge a certification that he felt was questionable. Instead....they called for him to resign.
Regardless... SCOTUS should have heard the case.... it wasn't about over turning the election.
Yes you are correct, you don't try cases because of public opinion nor should our SCOTUS not hear cases because of fear of public opinion.
Keep in mind that the Trump team distanced themselves from Powell.
Trump received more votes than last election, yet somehow he lost? Voodoo mathematics.
We also have a VP inserted who doesn't qualify.
I agree with you on many things but I believe the integrity of the ballot box was destroyed.
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Except the fact that the attack on the capitol was not done by Trump supporters, but was planned by leftists....there is video to prove it.
States still have rights to challenge certification. States continued counting votes after the election was over and some wouldn't let the GOP in. That's not made up bullcrap.
Cruz had an obligation to challenge a certification that he felt was questionable. Instead....they called for him to resign.
Regardless... SCOTUS should have heard the case.... it wasn't about over turning the election.
Yes you are correct, you don't try cases because of public opinion nor should our SCOTUS not hear cases because of fear of public opinion.
Keep in mind that the Trump team distanced themselves from Powell.
Trump received more votes than last election, yet somehow he lost? Voodoo mathematics.
We also have a VP inserted who doesn't qualify.
I agree with you on many things but I believe the integrity of the ballot box was destroyed.
There is ALWAYS shenannigans. ALWAYS. I am on the record hoping this particularly was TRUE, because this would have proven interstate collusion, throwing it unquestionably to the fed court. - But this is the only thing I saw that had that capability. And whether any of it was right really does not matter now - Because this admission discredits everything she touched.
Sure am glad I didn't sign on with all those folks thinking this was gospel truth just weeks ago... And it ought to be a lesson into considering what else was not true too.
As for how he could get many more votes and lose, well, the race between him and Hitlery was a very poor turnout. And he spent the last four years making every liberal he could apoplectic. So it is little surprise they turned out hard.
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Now perhaps, folks will have an understanding why you don't try cases in the court of Public Opinion.
The WHOLE THING was bullcrap.
Paging Captain Kraken. You know who you are.
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Paging Captain Kraken. You know who you are.
Turns out there wasn't any damn kraken at all - And the right-facing media lied through their teeth just like the left.
This is a CRITICAL issue - You can't believe ANY news anymore. None of it. And of everything, that offends me worse than anything. The whole works is twitterpated bulshalism. Doesn't matter where you stand.
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Turns out there wasn't any damn kraken at all - And the right-facing media lied through their teeth just like the left.
This is a CRITICAL issue - You can't believe ANY news anymore. None of it. And of everything, that offends me worse than anything. The whole works is twitterpated bulshalism. Doesn't matter where you stand.
Interesting that no other news source is reporting this. I would think that Powell's admission would be broadcast far and wide.
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Interesting that no other news source is reporting this. I would think that Powell's admission would be broadcast far and wide.
:shrug:
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@libertybele
My complaint against Powell is she sucked the oxygen out of the issue and was given waaay too much face time. FWIW, she was not a part of the President's legal team as both the President and Powell have publically stated. She does it again in the audio linked to below.
Powell's response:
https://rumble.com/embed/vcgzfp/?pub=4
pointing-up
Rumble — Sidney Powell Responds to The Fake News
“The #FakeNews is lying to everyone about our filing in the Dominion case. My position has not changed. We will be taking them to the matâ€. - Sidney
Dominion v. FREE SPEECH
This lawsuit is yet another attempt to silence critics and citizens who want to investigate voter fraud. The statements Dominion claims are defamatory are actually protected speech under the First Amendment because they deal with matters of public concern, i.e., election integrity. The Fake News media and their allies are spinning meritless claims because their arguments have neither the facts nor the law needed to hold up in a courtroom.
The statements complained of are also protected because Dominion is a public figure and must prove that Ms. Powell acted with malice. This is impossible, as Ms. Powell’s lawyer has explained, because Ms. Powell’s statements were based on sworn affidavits, declarations, expert reports and documentary evidence. She presented this evidence for all to see in four court filings and on her website.
FAKE NEWS v. Reality
Contrary to what the Fake News is pushing, Sidney did NOT claim in court that ‘no reasonable person would believe her claims’. The press is using twisted legalese and manipulating the legal standard to confuse the issue, as they have done before in other high-profile cases. Ms. Powell’s statements were legal opinions that she stands behind, as they were based on sworn affidavits, declarations, expert reports and documentary evidence.
Dominion claims that the evidence Ms. Powell relied upon to assert her claims concerning the lack of election integrity is incredible and not believable. Ms. Powell responded by pointing out that her assertions were her legal opinions based on the evidence she presented to four different courts. Accordingly, her statements are not subject to challenge under defamation law.
Official Statement from Sidney’s Lawyer
HOWARD KLEINHENDLER, ATTORNEY FOR SIDNEY POWELL, RESPONDS TO MEDIA ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING MOTION TO DISMISS FILED AGAINST DOMINION COMPLAINT
New York, New York March 23, 2021
Yesterday, several news media outlets cut and paste out of context portions of our motion to dismiss the Dominion complaint to “spin†a message that the election fraud allegations that Ms. Powell presented to various courts and to the public were not credible. I’d like to clarify what actually was presented to the court. First, let me be clear: any suggestion that “no reasonable person†would believe Ms. Powell or her comments on the election is false. The language these reports referred to is a legal standard adopted by the courts to determine whether statements qualify as opinions which are exempt from defamation liability.
As the DC Circuit reaffirmed just last week, there is no claim for defamation when the alleged “defamatory†statement is a legal opinion. Ms. Powell’s statements fall precisely into this category. Ms. Powell reviewed sworn affidavits, declarations, expert testimony, and other highly corroborated evidence concerning the election which Ms. Powell filed with the courts and shared publicly. She continues to stand by those opinions today. Our motion, in part, argues that the Dominion case should be dismissed because legal opinions are not grounds for defamation.
In sum, the legal standard of a technical legal defense crafted by the courts has been improperly manipulated by the media to tell a false narrative. Ms. Powell is not backing down or retracting her previous statements concerning Dominion. Dominion’s case lacks legal merit and should be dismissed in its entirety.
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Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
If you think massive election fraud did not happen this election primarily because it did not happen in past elections, you are officially a bleep idiot.
8:33 AM · Nov 12, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1326880828568215552
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A nice, concise record of what did and is still happening .....
Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
Democrats are employing some excellent brainwashing technique to defend the election as fair. Here are some of their tricks.
1. "Refuses to concede" is making you think past the sale that Trump's legal challenges will fail. This is their main persuasion trick.
2. "Audit" is being used to make a simple recount of (alleged) fraudulent ballots seem as if that could potentially find all types of fraud, which a recount is not designed to do. When none is found (because they are not looking), they will declare it proof there was no fraud.
3. "No evidence" is being used to reframe "plenty of evidence but not yet proven in court."
4. "No WIDESPREAD fraud" is the defense against the allegation of TARGETED fraud in specific swing state cities. This is misdirection aimed at low-information voters, which is most of the public.
5. Massive fraud would be "obvious" if it happened, so therefore it didn't happen. This ignores the entire nature of the allegation -- that it is totally obvious to about half of the country. No one believes Biden got far more votes than Obama.
6. Trump lawsuits are being tossed out of court. The fake news does not tell you the strongest evidence of fraud has not yet been presented to the courts. The first lawsuits were probably just to keep the fraud argument alive while lawyers dug for the good stuff.
7. Character assassination by bad analogy. The fake news is labelling Trump's legal challenges to the election as McCarthyism, racism, and the work of a dictator staging a coup. All of that is fear-persuasion based on bad analogies.
8. Experts and trusted media say no fraud has been detected. What they leave out is that they were not looking for it, and in some cases the people responsible for preventing election fraud are just saying they did a terrific job. This is misdirection.
9:30 AM · Nov 20, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1329794369453400064
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A nice, concise record of what did and is still happening .....
Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
Democrats are employing some excellent brainwashing technique to defend the election as fair. Here are some of their tricks.
3. "No evidence" is being used to reframe "plenty of evidence but not yet proven in court."
6. Trump lawsuits are being tossed out of court. The fake news does not tell you the strongest evidence of fraud has not yet been presented to the courts. The first lawsuits were probably just to keep the fraud argument alive while lawyers dug for the good stuff.
9:30 AM · Nov 20, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1329794369453400064
The great injustice to all, including the American people, is the courts' refusal to hear lawsuits with evidence. The slam dunk case was the Texas lawsuit filed in the court of original jurisdiction asking for a review of Constitution issues, not fraud --- was stunningly refused. No one I know in the legal field, either pro or anti Trump, can yet wrap their heads around this breach of judicial obligation.
This was a front on assault against 75+ million American citizens and their right to a free and fair vote.
The unkindest cut of all will be as investigations continue in key states, evidence will be aired and heard, election and voter fraud will (again) be proven ---- after the inauguration and when its likely HR1 will be the law of the land.
The GOP should have fought for Trump with one unified, loud voice.
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Turns out there wasn't any damn kraken at all - And the right-facing media lied through their teeth just like the left.
This is a CRITICAL issue - You can't believe ANY news anymore. None of it. And of everything, that offends me worse than anything. The whole works is twitterpated bulshalism. Doesn't matter where you stand.
OH, I don't think they lied. They were bamboozled. I think the Kraken nonsense started with that idiot professor at M.I.T. - I've forgotten his name, but you know, the guy who presented a graph of what was effectively (Y -X) by X, and then claimed the fact that it had a slope of -1 was some sort of proof of election tampering. I think this fool bamboozled a number of folks, Powell included.
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OH, I don't think they lied. They were bamboozled. I think the Kraken nonsense started with that idiot professor at M.I.T. - I've forgotten his name, but you know, the guy who presented a graph of what was effectively (Y -X) by X, and then claimed the fact that it had a slope of -1 was some sort of proof of election tampering. I think this fool bamboozled a number of folks, Powell included.
Yah... Then there was the code they hawked all over everywhere... Java. Looked like a refresh routine for a website somewhere. And yeah, poorly done... But mauling the data on the downstream side ain't proof of mauling the data on the upstream side. The minute I seen it I knew it was bullcrap. But you can't tell anyone that - They get the bit in their teeth and off they go.
Twitterpated.
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Yah... Then there was the code they hawked all over everywhere... Java. Looked like a refresh routine for a website somewhere. And yeah, poorly done... But mauling the data on the downstream side ain't proof of mauling the data on the upstream side. The minute I seen it I knew it was bullcrap. But you can't tell anyone that - They get the bit in their teeth and off they go.
Twitterpated.
Indeed.
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The Sovereign Crime of Industrial Scale Vote Fraud (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/03/the_sovereign_crime_of_industrial_scale_vote_fraud.html#ixzz6qVjGY4T7)
Sovereign crime. It does have a ring to it.
Sovereign crime is not something we see a lot of in America as our governmental institutions are generally not organized to commit, support or hide a crime.
Most Americans have never seen an organized crime take place, in plain view, supported by or covered up by governmental institutions. But it happens all the time around the world, even in some countries that are quite Westernized.
Sovereign crime means your government was a participant, active or passive, enabling vote fraud...
Our profilers comfortably said the 2020 election fraud was on such a scale that it was impossible for the major law enforcement agencies to not have known about it in advance.
Governmental law enforcement either actively engaged in the fraud, which is impossible to prove, or knowingly acquiesced after the fact...
Their comments were striking because they said the data easily available showed the election fraud patterns had two very alarming characteristics: It was not the first time this was tried, and it will be performed again, at scale, in the next election...
Excerpts: rest at above link
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The Sovereign Crime of Industrial Scale Vote Fraud (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/03/the_sovereign_crime_of_industrial_scale_vote_fraud.html#ixzz6qVjGY4T7)
Excerpts: rest at above link
So you still believe in the Kraken, then?
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So you still believe in the Kraken, then?
:yowsa: I still believe that there was major, industrial-scale election fraud in the 2020 election. YOU really should read the article I linked to @BassWrangler
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Interesting that no other news source is reporting this. I would think that Powell's admission would be broadcast far and wide.
The media does it's best to deny NewsMax and OAN exist. To report something like this from neither one of them gives them a legitimacy that the MSM doesn't want to award them.
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:yowsa: I still believe that there was major, industrial-scale election fraud in the 2020 election. YOU really should read the article I linked to @BassWrangler
Fair enough. I’ll read it after work today.
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Again, the Trump team distanced themselves from Powell.
Secondly, IF the MSM can continue to convince the populace that there was no election fraud, then there will not be a push from the GOP voting base for a fair election and they will again follow in march step to the ballot box where they will cast their votes thinking once again that the election isn't rigged, and certainly election results will never be challenged again. SCOTUS blinked and courts DENIED hearings!!!
Too many eye witness reports of election fraud that have been blatantly ignored. Too much evidence that was NOT heard by the courts.
The fix was in at least since the mid terms.
Ronna McDanniels led the way and the dumb idiots re-appointed her as chair of of the RNC. What could possibly go wrong??
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Again, the Trump team distanced themselves from Powell.
Secondly, IF the MSM can continue to convince the populace that there was no election fraud, then there will not be a push from the GOP voting base for a fair election and they will again follow in march step to the ballot box where they will cast their votes thinking once again that the election isn't rigged, and certainly election results will never be challenged again. SCOTUS blinked and courts DENIED hearings!!!
Is anyone arguing here that there wasn't some election fraud? I think what's being discussed here is that this Kraken theory of huge numbers of votes being switched by Dominion servers was a load of crap. I said it was at the time, and now we have even more evidence that it was.
Yes, the Trump team did distance themselves from Powell and company. It sounds like they did so with good reason. But I think you can make a credible case that the Powell and Wood and this Kraken nonsense contributed to an overall air of clownish, conspiracy theory nonsense that in many people's minds discredited ALL the election fraud claims, even though many of them were very real. In that sense, Powell bears some responsibility for Biden being in office right now.
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@libertybele
My complaint against Powell is she sucked the oxygen out of the issue and was given waaay too much face time. FWIW, she was not a part of the President's legal team as both the President and Powell have publically stated. She does it again in the audio linked to below.
Powell's response:
https://rumble.com/embed/vcgzfp/?pub=4
pointing-up
At the time, I was surprised that the Trump team disavowed that Powell was part of their team as I thought that she was. I also felt that obviously they had some reason to distance themselves.
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At the time, I was surprised that the Trump team disavowed that Powell was part of their team as I thought that she was. I also felt that obviously they had some reason to distance themselves.
There was plenty of evidence - #1 being this buffoon at M.I.T. (Shiva Ayyadurai) who got the whole kooky Kraken conspiracy theory started. I pointed this out, numerous times, in the days after the election, and a number of folks (I recall it was @Bigun and @Right_in_Virginia primarily) implied I didn't know what I was talking about. They did exactly what some are doing now, which is to post a bunch of other election fraud evidence - not related to the crackpot Kraken theory - as if those of us who don't buy into the Kraken nonsense are claiming there was no fraud at all.
Just to reiterate - it is 100% possible to believe there was significant election fraud while simultaneously disbelieving that there was massive swapping of votes by Dominion servers (The koo-koo for Kraken theory).
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Fair enough. I’ll read it after work today.
@Bigun
Ok, since I'm in a holding pattern at work until my coworker shows up at 8:30, I went ahead and read the article. This looks like another deflection. I have not, and never have, claimed there wasn't significant voter fraud. My specific beef was with this "Kraken" theory, that Dominion servers in a foreign country were performing wholesale swapping of millions of votes from Trump to Biden.
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There was plenty of evidence - #1 being this buffoon at M.I.T. (Shiva Ayyadurai) who got the whole kooky Kraken conspiracy theory started. I pointed this out, numerous times, in the days after the election, and a number of folks (I recall it was @Bigun and @Right_in_Virginia primarily) implied I didn't know what I was talking about. They did exactly what some are doing now, which is to post a bunch of other election fraud evidence - not related to the crackpot Kraken theory - as if those of us who don't buy into the Kraken nonsense are claiming there was no fraud at all.
Just to reiterate - it is 100% possible to believe there was significant election fraud while simultaneously disbelieving that there was massive swapping of votes by Dominion servers (The koo-koo for Kraken theory).
I belive that some of us have been talking past each other for quite some time on this issue @BassWrangler
We will discuss further after you have had time to tread the article I linked to above which pretty much reflects my thinking on the matter.
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At the time, I was surprised that the Trump team disavowed that Powell was part of their team as I thought that she was. I also felt that obviously they had some reason to distance themselves.
Mona Charen is a bush hack, and her headline is accordingly dishonest.
Trumps legal team knew she was going way over the top in her assertions - not that she wasn’t correct but that her assertions were going to be impossible to back up, as no judge would allow proper discovery. Dominion needed time to wipe their arse, which they obviously have as they’ve waited all this time to file suit.
The only way Powell can avoid a possibly costly settlement now is to backtrack. There is a chance Dominion will back off as my guess they don’t want to push their luck in a trial either.
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@Bigun
Ok, since I'm in a holding pattern at work until my coworker shows up at 8:30, I went ahead and read the article. This looks like another deflection. I have not, and never have, claimed there wasn't significant voter fraud. My specific beef was with this "Kraken" theory, that Dominion servers in a foreign country were performing wholesale swapping of millions of votes from Trump to Biden.
I'm going to be out of pocket for some time today but will get back to this ASAP. @BassWrangler
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I belive that some of us have been talking past each other for quite some time on this issue @BassWrangler
We will discuss further after you have had time to tread the article I linked to above which pretty much reflects my thinking on the matter.
@Bigun
Ok, well it's entirely possible that it's a miscommunication. I have a bad habit of skimming over things once I see something I find not credible. But I did read the article you linked in full.
I don't know the credentials of the person writing the article. No actual data was presented, just the author's opinions, based (he says) on conversations with unnamed experts in the field of criminal profiling.
The points I took away were 1) 2020 wasn't the first time this was tried - they did it in 2014, 2016, and 2018 as well. 2) They are going to do it again, probably to an even larger degree. 3) The government is in on it and has no desire to stop the fraud.
Putting aside the fact that this is some article from some unknown person with zero supporting data, what in the world does this have to do with my assertion that the Kraken theory is, and always has been, a load of absolute bunkem?
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I'm going to be out of pocket for some time today but will get back to this ASAP. @BassWrangler
Sounds good. I need to get back to work too, but I look forward to continuing the conversation.
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There was plenty of evidence - #1 being this buffoon at M.I.T. (Shiva Ayyadurai) who got the whole kooky Kraken conspiracy theory started. I pointed this out, numerous times, in the days after the election, and a number of folks (I recall it was @Bigun and @Right_in_Virginia primarily) implied I didn't know what I was talking about. They did exactly what some are doing now, which is to post a bunch of other election fraud evidence - not related to the crackpot Kraken theory - as if those of us who don't buy into the Kraken nonsense are claiming there was no fraud at all.
Just to reiterate - it is 100% possible to believe there was significant election fraud while simultaneously disbelieving that there was massive swapping of votes by Dominion servers (The koo-koo for Kraken theory).
Honestly, I didn't even know what the Karken theory was, BUT I did see the obvious. Precincts counting votes after they were supposedly closed and not allowing GOP precinct workers in, nor members of the RNC in, etc. That loudly screams fraud.
The MSM reported what they wanted. Video and evidence confirmed that some of the members of the House and Senate knew about the violence that was headed towards the capitol days in advance. So, again, that loudly screams fraud.
The objective for the RNC and every single GOP voter should be working towards a fair election. This Powell story only helps to sweep the fraud under the carpet.
The focus is on Sloe Joe's dementia, the crisis at the border, overturning Trump's tax cuts and mandates and IF they don't wake up and realize and accept that there was some type of fraud that took place AND our SCOTUS turned it's head, then our Republic will continue to die. Right now, there is no clear cut path forward for the GOP to be seated. NONE.
I've stated it many times. A NEW party needs to be PEACEFULLY inserted (not a 3rd party run @ the existing ballot box) and the current regime ousted; a coup just like the several that took place during the Trump administration to get rid of him.
I admittedly and obviously don't have all the answers, but I do firmly believe we need a team of very constitutional conservatives leaders to lead the 75+ million who the left is trying to keep silent . So far they are making it impossible for any glimmer of hope that we can resurrect our Republic.
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OH, I don't think they lied. They were bamboozled.
And by the by, lest it would be lost in my agreement with you, Whether 'intentionally misleading' or 'bamboozled', it does not matter a whit. That the right-facing press put it to print without verity is wholly without excuse.
The fault for misleading information lies squarely on the right-facing press - I shall never believe them again and will treat them exactly like the left-facing press, and in that admit my own naivete in that I ever believed them at all.
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And by the by, lest it would be lost in my agreement with you, Whether 'intentionally misleading' or 'bamboozled', it does not matter a whit. That the right-facing press put it to print without verity is wholly without excuse.
The fault for misleading information lies squarely on the right-facing press - I shall never believe them again and will treat them exactly like the left-facing press, and in that admit my own naivete in that I ever believed them at all.
I think it depends largely on what you mean by "press". The lines are really blurry these days between what is a journalist and what is some random dude who got an article published on a website. And you ca no longer make any assumptions about veracity of claims based on where something is published. I mean, yes, some people published some unverified stories about election fraud, but you know CNN spent 3 years running bogus, unverified stories about Trump.
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And by the by, lest it would be lost in my agreement with you, Whether 'intentionally misleading' or 'bamboozled', it does not matter a whit. That the right-facing press put it to print without verity is wholly without excuse.
The fault for misleading information lies squarely on the right-facing press - I shall never believe them again and will treat them exactly like the left-facing press, and in that admit my own naivete in that I ever believed them at all.
That is why Trump used twitter so often; the press on both sides reported inaccurately, or they didn't bother to report at all.
I read today on FOX News that Antifa had descended on Oregon's capitol. No other news source is reporting. Why? The media is owned and operated by leftists to sway public opinion. The only want the focus on bad conservative white men right now.
Does the right do the same thing? I believe that they report more of what the left is omitting. I don't see that as biased. What I do agree with you is that there is no longer true journalist reporting but rather a bunch of people reporting a very one sided viewpoint.
I do like Carlson, though I rarely even listen to him; I catch up on excerpts of his show posted on websites.
I do listen to Beck quite a bit. He was absolutely right years ago. The ONLY thing that we are going to be able to depend on is knowing what is right in our hearts and living accordingly --we won't be able to trust what is being reported. He's the only one who broadcasts that I do still trust.
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Trump's self-righteous buffoons, such as Powell and their devotees,
have now recast themselves as "Larry, Moe & Curley Act Deux".
Hmmm.....predictable that the unhinged eternally gravitate to Trump!
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Honestly, I didn't even know what the Karken theory was, BUT I did see the obvious. Precincts counting votes after they were supposedly closed and not allowing GOP precinct workers in, nor members of the RNC in, etc. That loudly screams fraud.
YES it does. But that is localized and a matter of a few precincts. That is where the difficulty comes in: There has been, and will always be those few precincts. And f they become the focus, the whole system will necessarily fall down, just on the premise that every election will be challenged and halted, even on the rumor. You couldn't get ANYONE elected, because all the challenging side would have to do is provide some fleeting malfeasance, and that would queer the whole thing. Every single time.
And in not providing evidence of interstate collusion, the whole matter will be beat down, because that is what the system is designed to do... To overlook the incidental in favor of the verity of the rest. So no, the several states do not have standing against a state or two, because otherwise thus would always be the case. It would never be otherwise. So the reaction is limited immediately to the internals of the state, and the responsibility of each state to guard their own certification with zeal - Because that's really all we got. That is why it is so hard to overturn a state result properly certified. That may as well be written in stone. And each state relies upon the same basic system - knowing there will be shenanigans. They too are programmed to ignore the incidental in favor of the verity of the rest... Because otherwise, there would never be a certification at all... And so it goes.
The objective for the RNC and every single GOP voter should be working towards a fair election. This Powell story only helps to sweep the fraud under the carpet.
And what to do then, when the Republicans come sweeping back into power in less than two years? What would that do to your theory? Honest question, and no offense meant...
The focus is on Sloe Joe's dementia, the crisis at the border, overturning Trump's tax cuts and mandates and IF they don't wake up and realize and accept that there was some type of fraud that took place AND our SCOTUS turned it's head, then our Republic will continue to die. Right now, there is no clear cut path forward for the GOP to be seated. NONE.
No, the focus should be on the money and the bare fact they are stealing your rights and treasure right from under you. And they are doing it every_single_time no matter who wins and no matter who is in power. All the rest is distraction to keep your gaze away from what is actually happening. The political class long ago learned the value of a good soap opera.
I admittedly and obviously don't have all the answers, but I do firmly believe we need a team of very constitutional conservatives leaders to lead the 75+ million who the left is trying to keep silent . So far they are making it impossible for any glimmer of hope that we can resurrect our Republic.
That much is certain - and more so the Congress than any other thing - Because only a Congress jealous of its power will set things to right. No princes, no parties, no nothing. That is the only answer, and the slimmest of hopes.
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I think it depends largely on what you mean by "press". The lines are really blurry these days between what is a journalist and what is some random dude who got an article published on a website. And you ca no longer make any assumptions about veracity of claims based on where something is published. I mean, yes, some people published some unverified stories about election fraud, but you know CNN spent 3 years running bogus, unverified stories about Trump.
Sure, and you know Brightfart and others spent much the same time doing the exact opposite - Spinning bogus unverified stories in his favor.
As for journalists of any flavor - that is a beast of the utmost rarity. But I can tell you this: We are finished for sure if we can find no reliable journalism, warts and all.
Truth lies dead in the streets.
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YES it does. But that is localized and a matter of a few precincts. That is where the difficulty comes in: There has been, and will always be those few precincts. And f they become the focus, the whole system will necessarily fall down, just on the premise that every election will be challenged and halted, even on the rumor. You couldn't get ANYONE elected, because all the challenging side would have to do is provide some fleeting malfeasance, and that would queer the whole thing. Every single time.
And in not providing evidence of interstate collusion, the whole matter will be beat down, because that is what the system is designed to do... To overlook the incidental in favor of the verity of the rest. So no, the several states do not have standing against a state or two, because otherwise thus would always be the case. It would never be otherwise. So the reaction is limited immediately to the internals of the state, and the responsibility of each state to guard their own certification with zeal - Because that's really all we got. That is why it is so hard to overturn a state result properly certified. That may as well be written in stone. And each state relies upon the same basic system - knowing there will be shenanigans. They too are programmed to ignore the incidental in favor of the verity of the rest... Because otherwise, there would never be a certification at all... And so it goes.
And what to do then, when the Republicans come sweeping back into power in less than two years? What would that do to your theory? Honest question, and no offense meant...
No, the focus should be on the money and the bare fact they are stealing your rights and treasure right from under you. And they are doing it every_single_time no matter who wins and no matter who is in power. All the rest is distraction to keep your gaze away from what is actually happening. The political class long ago learned the value of a good soap opera.
That much is certain - and more so the Congress than any other thing - Because only a Congress jealous of its power will set things to right. No princes, no parties, no nothing. That is the only answer, and the slimmest of hopes.
Well, time will tell. IMHO with amnesty and the hundreds of thousands pouring in over the border along with questionable integrity at the ballot box, I will be absolutely astounded IF the GOP manages to actually get back into power. I won't help to seat anyone unless they are a true conservative.
You are absolutely correct; the gov't puts on an excellent show of smoke and mirrors illusions and with the help of the MSM they have much of the public believing that they are actually doing their job. Nothing but a bunch of b.s., meanwhile you are correct, they are taking our freedoms away.
I hold very little hope. They only hope may come from above in the form of a miracle, once again giving this country His blessings.
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That is why Trump used twitter so often; the press on both sides reported inaccurately, or they didn't bother to report at all.
Stop a moment and think that through. How the hell do you get reliable anything out of twitterpation? Tell me in 240 chars or less.
I read today on FOX News that Antifa had descended on Oregon's capitol. No other news source is reporting. Why? The media is owned and operated by leftists to sway public opinion. The only want the focus on bad conservative white men right now.
Hate to tell you this, but FOX is owned, bolt and cloth, by the left too. You have to go deeper than that.
Does the right do the same thing? I believe that they report more of what the left is omitting. I don't see that as biased. What I do agree with you is that there is no longer true journalist reporting but rather a bunch of people reporting a very one sided viewpoint.
YES the right does the very same thing, in the exact opposite direction. An event (if the event is even true) is presented in nothing but diametrically opposed spin. Facts be damned, on all sides.
I do like Carlson, though I rarely even listen to him; I catch up on excerpts of his show posted on websites.
I do listen to Beck quite a bit. He was absolutely right years ago. The ONLY thing that we are going to be able to depend on is knowing what is right in our hearts and living accordingly --we won't be able to trust what is being reported. He's the only one who broadcasts that I do still trust.
I will listen some to Beck... Some to Crowder, when he is being serious... I will listen to Shapiro and the Daily Wire before any other - But even him with a jaundiced eye... But mostly I listen to none of it... Seeing it as sign on the ground and nothing more, and then sussing from that sign what it is, and where it's going, relying on little more... and certainly putting little stock in what they are saying.
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Well, time will tell. IMHO with amnesty and the hundreds of thousands pouring in over the border along with questionable integrity at the ballot box, I will be absolutely astounded IF the GOP manages to actually get back into power.
And yet they will - Because the illusion of 'choice' is the first cause in the con. And the 'right' will rise in glorious victory, and the 'left' will sink in desolation... And for the right, for a few years, everything will be right in the world. And then it will all reverse and play the other way. And in all that time, nothing will change. The direction is set elsewhere.
I won't help to seat anyone unless they are a true conservative.
That of course, I agree with in spades. happy77
I hold very little hope. They only hope may come from above in the form of a miracle, once again giving this country His blessings.
And that comes with nothing but repentance (as a nation)... Seen that written of a time or two before. I however, hold out hope, and that hope will remain as long as the dollar stands, because as long as we can move, there is a chance that the bindings can be freed - And with that freedom, the chocks can be knocked out from under that magnificent engine that is our market. And in that the slim chance - All hinged, as you declare, and that, upon repentance.
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Sure, and you know Brightfart and others spent much the same time doing the exact opposite - Spinning bogus unverified stories in his favor.
As for journalists of any flavor - that is a beast of the utmost rarity. But I can tell you this: We are finished for sure if we can find no reliable journalism, warts and all.
Truth lies dead in the streets.
I think Breitbart has been pretty good. Major sites like that have to be careful with their facts, because the left-wing "fact checkers" will destroy them if they post easily refuted falsehoods.
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I think Breitbart has been pretty good. Major sites like that have to be careful with their facts, because the left-wing "fact checkers" will destroy them if they post easily refuted falsehoods.
Bleah. I pay em no mind at all. Attached like a lamprey to Tumpy's ass. I have found them to be unreliable, and that is being kind.
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At the time, I was surprised that the Trump team disavowed that Powell was part of their team as I thought that she was. I also felt that obviously they had some reason to distance themselves.
I don't think the Trump team distanced themselves from Powell because they didn't believe her. I think they distanced themselves from her because they were going a different, more direct route @libertybele where they could prove their case within a looming deadline --- voter fraud: mail-in voting, chain of custody, ineligible votes, ballot stuffing; and election fraud: processes followed v state election laws in place, voting machine manipulation by precinct.
They had the evidence for all of this pointing-up and it proved massive, coordinated fraud and a stolen election in six states.
Powell was going the international espionage route, something that would take years to prove making it of little consequence to the task at hand. Powell understood this.
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Here again is what happened in Georgia.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/fix-upcoming-to-georgia-touchscreens-to-restore-missing-senate-candidates/ASEWAGDAR5DFPGW2OPULV4N3JY/
In October 2020, changes were made to Dominion software. State law requires that after code changes are made, the machines are to be recertified. This did not happen. State law also requires that absentee ballots be checked for valid signatures. This also did not happen. State law requires that ballots received after the deadline are not to be counted. They were counted anyway. State law requires that ballot signature envelopes remain attached to each ballot. Envelopes were discarded. State law requires that observers from each party be given the opportunity to observe the counting process. Republican observers were not given that opportunity late election night.
And there is nothing Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, or Rudi Giuliani can possibly say that has any bearing on the lawlessness that occurred in Georgia.
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Here again is what happened in Georgia.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/fix-upcoming-to-georgia-touchscreens-to-restore-missing-senate-candidates/ASEWAGDAR5DFPGW2OPULV4N3JY/
In October 2020, changes were made to Dominion software. State law requires that after code changes are made, the machines are to be recertified. This did not happen. State law also requires that absentee ballots be checked for valid signatures. This also did not happen. State law requires that ballots received after the deadline are not to be counted. They were counted anyway. State law requires that ballot signature envelopes remain attached to each ballot. Envelopes were discarded. State law requires that observers from each party be given the opportunity to observe the counting process. Republican observers were not given that opportunity late election night.
And there is nothing Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, or Rudi Giuliani can possibly say that has any bearing on the lawlessness that occurred in Georgia.
Amen! However, I did find it extremely troubling that Giuliani was chosen to be Trump's defender. Really? He hadn't tried a case in years and as his personal lawyer, he didn't do him any good before the election and certainly did him no favors afterwards.
Why, oh why, did Trump not find a team worthy?? Giuliani wasn't prepared, nor knowledgeable enough to do what was needed.
IMHO, the Trump administration and those involved seeing that he was re-elected should have prepared for fraud. They failed. Ronna failed. The country IS suffering as a result.
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Amen! However, I did find it extremely troubling that Giuliani was chosen to be Trump's defender. Really? He hadn't tried a case in years and as his personal lawyer, he didn't do him any good before the election and certainly did him no favors afterwards.
Why, oh why, did Trump not find a team worthy?? Giuliani wasn't prepared, nor knowledgeable enough to do what was needed.
IMHO, the Trump administration and those involved seeing that he was re-elected should have prepared for fraud. They failed. Ronna failed. The country IS suffering as a result.
FACTS. GAWD but I hate all the martyr crap. Giuliani is good at publicity. It's what he does. The minute he was assigned lead, I knew it was going to be a public farce. I had hoped there were real lawyers doing real law behind the scenes.... But apparently not.
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Here again is what happened in Georgia.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/fix-upcoming-to-georgia-touchscreens-to-restore-missing-senate-candidates/ASEWAGDAR5DFPGW2OPULV4N3JY/
In October 2020, changes were made to Dominion software. State law requires that after code changes are made, the machines are to be recertified. This did not happen. State law also requires that absentee ballots be checked for valid signatures. This also did not happen. State law requires that ballots received after the deadline are not to be counted. They were counted anyway. State law requires that ballot signature envelopes remain attached to each ballot. Envelopes were discarded. State law requires that observers from each party be given the opportunity to observe the counting process. Republican observers were not given that opportunity late election night.
And there is nothing Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, or Rudi Giuliani can possibly say that has any bearing on the lawlessness that occurred in Georgia.
Yours was excellent reporting - And I thank you for that... Georgia failed. No doubt. But then what?
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Here again is what happened in Georgia.
https://www.ajc.com/politics/fix-upcoming-to-georgia-touchscreens-to-restore-missing-senate-candidates/ASEWAGDAR5DFPGW2OPULV4N3JY/
In October 2020, changes were made to Dominion software. State law requires that after code changes are made, the machines are to be recertified. This did not happen. State law also requires that absentee ballots be checked for valid signatures. This also did not happen. State law requires that ballots received after the deadline are not to be counted. They were counted anyway. State law requires that ballot signature envelopes remain attached to each ballot. Envelopes were discarded. State law requires that observers from each party be given the opportunity to observe the counting process. Republican observers were not given that opportunity late election night.
And there is nothing Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, or Rudi Giuliani can possibly say that has any bearing on the lawlessness that occurred in Georgia.
Right, but is anyone here disputing that lawlessness occurred? I thought the topic was Kraken (Dominion servers changing votes en masse). I hate to sound like a broken record, but why do people keep pointing out other, much more credible, instances of fraud when the topic is this Dominion vote-swap thing?
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Amen! However, I did find it extremely troubling that Giuliani was chosen to be Trump's defender. Really? He hadn't tried a case in years and as his personal lawyer, he didn't do him any good before the election and certainly did him no favors afterwards.
Why, oh why, did Trump not find a team worthy?? Giuliani wasn't prepared, nor knowledgeable enough to do what was needed.
IMHO, the Trump administration and those involved seeing that he was re-elected should have prepared for fraud. They failed. Ronna failed. The country IS suffering as a result.
I've wondered the same thing. I remember that there was some last minute shuffle when a bunch of Trump's legal team withdrew from the case. Maybe that's why he ended up with Giuliani? I'm not sure about the sequence of events, so maybe that's not it. But I agree with you that Giuliani was a poor choice.
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Georgia failed. No doubt. But then what?
Well it certainly can't be fixed by passing a law.
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Well it certainly can't be fixed by passing a law.
Not 100%. Might make it a bit harder for them. I believe the way to make it MUCH more difficult for them is to randomize poll workers (maybe just the supervisors). Send them to a county that's not known until a few days before the election. This will break up the pre-planned fraud in counties like Fulton.
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FACTS. GAWD but I hate all the martyr crap. Giuliani is good at publicity. It's what he does. The minute he was assigned lead, I knew it was going to be a public farce. I had hoped there were real lawyers doing real law behind the scenes.... But apparently not.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,176.0.html
pointing-up This link contains massive amounts of information -- per contested state. The information was posted in real time, often with live video links. There were committee hearings, both at the state and federal levels; eyewitness testimony under oath, affidavits under penalty of perjury, video evidence, IT testimony under oath -- with tangible proof of electronic manipulation, updates on court dismissals, and on and on and on.
If someone is stating that no fraud happened or happened to a minor extent, he or she is painfully uninformed --- and given the events and documentation we reported right here in Briefer City, the uninformed are willfully so.
I'll defend anyone's right to be willfully uninformed. I question that same person's right to spout off as an expert. Such actions are both counterproductive and self-serving.
To those who doubt the validity of the claims of massive, coordinated election and voter fraud: Why not educate yourself and spend a week here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,176.0.html -- and then rejoin the discussion?
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Not 100%. Might make it a bit harder for them. I believe the way to make it MUCH more difficult for them is to randomize poll workers (maybe just the supervisors). Send them to a county that's not known until a few days before the election. This will break up the pre-planned fraud in counties like Fulton.
Why can't we simply have the software flag any ballot put through the system more than once? If we can't even do that - two friggin lines of code - then everything else is pointless.
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Why can't we simply have the software flag any ballot put through the system more than once? If we can't even do that - two friggin lines of code - then everything else is pointless.
Of course, we could do that, but I think Dems are crafty enough to find a way to work around safeguards. That's why I want to minimize their ability to organize the cheating by breaking up the hot spots where the shenanigans always occur (i.e. Fulton County).
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I also invited everyone to read, or reread, this compelling confession:
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
Time, FEBRUARY 4, 2021 5:40 AM EST, BY MOLLY BALL
(https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/donald-trump-joe-biden-election.jpg?w=800&quality=85)
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
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http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,176.0.html
pointing-up This link contains massive amounts of information -- per contested state. The information was posted in real time, often with live video links. There were committee hearings, both at the state and federal levels; eyewitness testimony under oath, affidavits under penalty of perjury, video evidence, IT testimony under oath -- with tangible proof of electronic manipulation, updates on court dismissals, and on and on and on.
If someone is stating that no fraud happened or happened to a minor extent, he or she is painfully uninformed --- and given the events and documentation we reported right here in Briefer City, the uninformed are willfully so.
I'll defend anyone's right to be willfully uninformed. I question that same person's right to spout off as an expert. Such actions are both counterproductive and self-serving.
To those who doubt the validity of the claims of massive, coordinated election and voter fraud: Why not educate yourself and spend a week here: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/board,176.0.html -- and then rejoin the discussion?
MEH. Heard it all. Seen it all. MEH.
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Well it certainly can't be fixed by passing a law.
Well what the hell else is there?
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Why can't we simply have the software flag any ballot put through the system more than once? If we can't even do that - two friggin lines of code - then everything else is pointless.
More than that, electronically every single ballot can be serialized and identified. Tied to a receipt. Votes in question could be published and those with a receipt could then step forward.
Personally, I would throw the damn computers out and go down to purple finger and nothing else.
And all of it done in a day - A single day.
Leaves no room for finding ballots.
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Well what the hell else is there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKR32ImWYzw
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I was under thee impression that when Roma/GOP advised the Trump Campaign that they weren't picking up the tab for Powell, Wood (?), etc... The Trump SuperPAC bailed too, for good reason.
He's probably got twice the amount of $$$ on hand than the GOP. :shrug:
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MEH. Heard it all. Seen it all. MEH.
Witnessing your level of confusion, this cannot possibly be true.
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Witnessing your level of confusion, this cannot possibly be true.
Not confused at all - Just unbelieving.
And with good cause.
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Not confused at all - Just unbelieving.
And with good cause.
I'll grant you there are many more dots on the page than most people can connect.
I blame public school education.
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I'll grant you there are many more dots on the page than most people can connect.
I blame public schooling.
For what other people do? Yeah, me too. :laugh:
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For what other people do? Yeah, me too. :laugh:
There you go again, bless your heart. No, I blame the public schools for you being unable to connect more than two dots on a page.
Not a big deal ... you seem quite happy clearing the mud, and this is what really matters. happy77
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I doubt they had public schools when @roamer_1 was growing up.
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I doubt they had public schools when @roamer_1 was growing up.
They don't now.
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There you go again, bless your heart. No, I blame the public schools for you being unable to connect more than two dots on a page.
Not a big deal ... you seem quite happy clearing the mud, and this is what really matters. happy77
Wasn't much for public school... Nice try though. I confess I had some, but not much
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I doubt they had public schools when @roamer_1 was growing up.
Nope. Private (Grainge Hall) schoolhouse... 7 miles both ways uphill... You know the drill.
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And your avatar freaks me out @corbe , every time.
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I was under thee impression that when Roma/GOP advised the Trump Campaign that they weren't picking up the tab for Powell, Wood (?), etc... The Trump SuperPAC bailed too, for good reason.
He's probably got twice the amount of $$$ on hand than the GOP. :shrug:
Something like that. I believe his first team of lawyers bailed. I didn't read as to why.
Regardless, there was fraud. There was enough evidence that judges should have heard cases AND our SCOTUS shouldn't have been afraid to hear the case for fear of a public backlash. That fear of public backlash indicates to me that they knew that there was a strong possibility of fraud and would have to rule accordingly. The fix was in from the leftists/globalist long before the election. The Russian collusion didn't work, impeachment I didn't work, COVID didn't work so they had no choice but to steal the dang election.
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Back then public school was necessary. Where else to learn how to fight?
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And your avatar freaks me out @corbe , every time.
Vampires can't be seen in a mirror.
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Nope. Private (Grainge Hall) schoolhouse... 7 miles both ways uphill... You know the drill.
True story. My Dad had to walk several blocks to school. He attended private Catholic schools. My grandparents were poor and my grandma literally wrapped my Dad's feet in rags and cloth and he walked in the snow to school. God rest his soul, he was a great Dad and made his way in spite of the odds. He was able to complete two years of college and he paid cash for our first house when we moved to MI and every house after that; each house a bit larger than the last.
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Back on topic. There absolutely was election fraud and I believe so much fraud that the election was stolen. I have no doubts. Powell confession or not.
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And your avatar freaks me out @corbe , every time.
Yes @corbe please go back to the more traditional eye candy avatar.
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And your avatar freaks me out @corbe , every time.
I've had a couple of other Briefers that it freaked out and PM'e me. So I changed it to something Not so Deep. Loosely based on the Album by Uriah Heep 'Look at Yourself'.... :beer: @roamer_1
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Sounds good. I need to get back to work too, but I look forward to continuing the conversation.
Spent the day getting all the motorized equipment on this place serviced and ready for summer and I'm tired but I do want to get back to you today @BassWrangler
To start with, I will admit to being possibly taken in WRT the international aspects of what happened in the 2020 election and probably went a little overboard with some of my posts here. I apologize for that but please do not take that to mean that I do not believe that there was MASSIVE fraud committed because I definitely do believe that.
Others have posted links to threads containing many real-time posts on the subject so I'll just leave it right there for now however I do want to say that I agree with what @roamer_1 had to say somewhere above as to how to fix it. One election day and purple fingers with zero computers or the internet involved is the ONLY way IMHO.
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Back then public school was necessary. Where else to learn how to fight?
I thought that was what the old man was teaching me out behind the barn... Well at least the 'how to get your ass kicked' part, anyway... So I got that part down early. :shrug: :whistle:
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True story. My Dad had to walk several blocks to school. He attended private Catholic schools. My grandparents were poor and my grandma literally wrapped my Dad's feet in rags and cloth and he walked in the snow to school. God rest his soul, he was a great Dad and made his way in spite of the odds. He was able to complete two years of college and he paid cash for our first house when we moved to MI and every house after that; each house a bit larger than the last.
That's the way you do. I reckon I would know to respect that man. Them kind wear it right on their faces. :beer:
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Spent the day getting all the motorized equipment on this place serviced and ready for summer and I'm tired but I do want to get back to you today @BassWrangler
To start with, I will admit to being possibly taken in WRT the international aspects of what happened in the 2020 election and probably went a little overboard with some of my posts here. I apologize for that but please do not take that to mean that I do not believe that there was MASSIVE fraud committed because I definitely do believe that.
Others have posted links to threads containing many real-time posts on the subject so I'll just leave it right there for now however I do want to say that I agree with what @roamer_1 had to say somewhere above as to how to fix it. One election day and purple fingers with zero computers or the internet involved is the ONLY way IMHO.
That is something I called for.
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I've had a couple of other Briefers that it freaked out and PM'e me. So I changed it to something Not so Deep. Loosely based on the Album by Uriah Heep 'Look at Yourself'.... :beer: @roamer_1
That one looks kinda Linda Ronstadty @corbe
But don't change it on my accord - I don't mind being freaked out... Just kinda, "Ooh, naked chick..." with all of the good stuff missing... Freaks me out that way... :shrug:
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To start with, I will admit to being possibly taken in WRT the international aspects of what happened in the 2020 election and probably went a little overboard with some of my posts here. I apologize for that but please do not take that to mean that I do not believe that there was MASSIVE fraud committed because I definitely do believe that.
Hey... No worries. I was hanging on that too.
And I believe there is pretty massive fraud committed ANYWAY so... I started from there too.
Others have posted links to threads containing many real-time posts on the subject so I'll just leave it right there for now however I do want to say that I agree with what @roamer_1 had to say somewhere above as to how to fix it. One election day and purple fingers with zero computers or the internet involved is the ONLY way IMHO.
:beer:
And a moratorium on media prospecting would be nice too... No expectations, no tweaking, just go in there and pull the lever, come what may. That was good enough for our grandfolks... Should work for us too.
Keep it simple because simple things are hard[er] to mess with
@Bigun
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Nope. Private (Grainge Hall) schoolhouse... 7 miles both ways uphill... You know the drill.
Oh. So that's why you didn't graduate. Got tired of walking.
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Tired Of Walking ~ James McMurtry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6QsLb0is0c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6QsLb0is0c)
Incidentally, his Father the Great Novelist Larry McMurtry died today.
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Oh. So that's why you didn't graduate. Got tired of walking.
Naw. I graduated. I had a horse... But that's as far as that went. At the time, the closest college was 120 miles away.
LOL! No, really. Christian school till 6th, two years of home schooling, and wrapped her up in public school. Bus to the Christian school, other than home schooling, walked to every other one, between a mile and a half and 3 miles, depending on the school. And yes, I did ride my horse to school, but not very often.
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I was in Louisiana grade school when they forced bussing, that was a hoot!
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Spent the day getting all the motorized equipment on this place serviced and ready for summer and I'm tired but I do want to get back to you today @BassWrangler
To start with, I will admit to being possibly taken in WRT the international aspects of what happened in the 2020 election and probably went a little overboard with some of my posts here. I apologize for that but please do not take that to mean that I do not believe that there was MASSIVE fraud committed because I definitely do believe that.
Others have posted links to threads containing many real-time posts on the subject so I'll just leave it right there for now however I do want to say that I agree with what @roamer_1 had to say somewhere above as to how to fix it. One election day and purple fingers with zero computers or the internet involved is the ONLY way IMHO.
@Bigun
Thanks for getting back to me. Sounds like we're in agreement on the state of things. I agree also with @roamer_1 that the old school vote in person, die the finger, approach is simple and effective. Hard to accept that Iraq has more honest and better run elections than us, but it seems that is the case.
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Next up biteme will appoint Stacy 'The Tank' Abrams as Elections Czar.
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Next up biteme will appoint Stacy 'The Tank' Abrams as Elections Czar.
I can't explain it, but that woman makes my blood boil. She is a criminal who is being rewarded for criminal vote fraud. My fervent hope is that she gets caught and goes to jail. I would give my left nut to see that.
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Right, but is anyone here disputing that lawlessness occurred? I thought the topic was Kraken (Dominion servers changing votes en masse). I hate to sound like a broken record, but why do people keep pointing out other, much more credible, instances of fraud when the topic is this Dominion vote-swap thing?
I think we're more focused here.
The reason I post this is because, and I noted this back in November when this was all unfolding, that one can simultaneously conclude the election was stolen and/or manipulated, while at the same time recognize that Ms. Powell was pushing red herrings. Swap out Dominion for Diebold and I heard all these accusations 16 years ago in the Bush-Kerry election in Ohio, except it was from the far left. It was nonsense then, and it's nonsense now.
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I think we're more focused here.
The reason I post this is because, and I noted this back in November when this was all unfolding, that one can simultaneously conclude the election was stolen and/or manipulated, while at the same time recognize that Ms. Powell was pushing red herrings. Swap out Dominion for Diebold and I heard all these accusations 16 years ago in the Bush-Kerry election in Ohio, except it was from the far left. It was nonsense then, and it's nonsense now.
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Instead of solving problems WE seem to be stuck in chasing symptoms for the last 50 years.
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That one looks kinda Linda Ronstadty @corbe
But don't change it on my accord - I don't mind being freaked out... Just kinda, "Ooh, naked chick..." with all of the good stuff missing... Freaks me out that way... :shrug:
You must be out of flour.
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You must be out of flour.
three weeks now... :shrug:
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I had a couple of PM's from Briefers, Females that I respect dearly, questioning my judgement about that avatar. I tried all weekend to put myself in their shoes, even with help from @Texas Robin my brain could not wrap around that particular 'concept', BUT it was when @roamer_1 put all my ugly, dirty laundry on display in The Lounge, no less, I gave up, figured it was a losing war. wink777
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I had a couple of PM's from Briefers, Females that I respect dearly, questioning my judgement about that avatar. I tried all weekend to put myself in their shoes, even with help from @Texas Robin my brain could not wrap around that particular 'concept', BUT it was when @roamer_1 put all my ugly, dirty laundry on display in The Lounge, no less, I gave up, figured it was a losing war. wink777
Beats me @corbe :shrug: There ain't nothing wrong with that pic that wouldn't show under a dress. So technically, tastefully done IMHO. I can even appreciate the artistry - The presentation... What's wrong is also what's missing, and what ain't there cannot be an offense. I ain't offended. Just freaked out.
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Maybe it's you that needs to be thinking of Women more than just one big hole. :rolling:
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Maybe it's you that needs to be thinking of Women more than just one big hole. :rolling:
HAHAHAHA! Never even occurred to me. :silly:
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I had a couple of PM's from Briefers, Females that I respect dearly, questioning my judgement about that avatar. I tried all weekend to put myself in their shoes, even with help from @Texas Robin my brain could not wrap around that particular 'concept', BUT it was when @roamer_1 put all my ugly, dirty laundry on display in The Lounge, no less, I gave up, figured it was a losing war. wink777
I like it. I thought the reflection in the mirror of our current *resident was intriguing.
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That's OK, I took the rap anyway. :beer:
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@BassWrangler @roamer_1
For your viewing pleasure:
https://rumble.com/vfbwwh-part-1-sidney-powell-is-not-backing-down.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1
https://rumble.com/vetu9x-sidney-powell-confirmed.html?mref=23gga&mrefc=2
https://www.sidneypowell.com/
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@BassWrangler @roamer_1
For your viewing pleasure:
https://rumble.com/vfbwwh-part-1-sidney-powell-is-not-backing-down.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1
https://rumble.com/vetu9x-sidney-powell-confirmed.html?mref=23gga&mrefc=2
https://www.sidneypowell.com/
Yes, I saw that @Bigun ... A half-measure denial.
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Yes, I saw that @Bigun ... A half-measure denial.
Sounds pretty full-throated to me but what do I know?
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Sounds pretty full-throated to me but what do I know?
@Bigun
According to the transcript upthread provided by @Right_in_Virginia :
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,432713.msg2403735.html#msg2403735
It sounds to me like her denial is winnowed down compared to the whole of the accusation. The gist is in this bit:
Contrary to what the Fake News is pushing, Sidney did NOT claim in court that ‘no reasonable person would believe her claims’. The press is using twisted legalese and manipulating the legal standard to confuse the issue, as they have done before in other high-profile cases. Ms. Powell’s statements were legal opinions that she stands behind, as they were based on sworn affidavits, declarations, expert reports and documentary evidence.
That is not the whole of the accusation reported against her. That means weasel-words to me. Her denial is in part - Though I will grant you she is full-throated in the denial she does provide... And I dare say that which she did deny, she can probably prove.
We will see. Dominion does not seem very worried about discovery.
And I will be HAPPY to eat my words. Like I said before, I was hoping all this was true. But unlike you @Bigun , I am not holding out hope. I believe the kraken is a myth. But she will get her day in court. Finally.
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Parts 2, 3, and 4 of the Sidney Powell interview
https://rumble.com/vfbwzt-part-2-sidney-...f=23gga&mrefc=4
https://rumble.com/vfbxl7-part-3-why-was...f=23gga&mrefc=5
https://rumble.com/vfbxqh-part-4-sidney-...f=23gga&mrefc=4
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That O.P. is a lie. That is not what she said. That article is a big lie. MEDIA, does not understand words.
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If she blatantly lied, she should be disbarred.
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That O.P. is a lie. That is not what she said. That article is a big lie. MEDIA, does not understand words.
Uh huh...sure it is.
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Uh huh...sure it is.
CORRECT. MEDIA IS LYING, AGAIN. OUT OF CONTEXT. The lefts, favorite thing to do. You support corruption? And why do you support corruption? It is easy to see all the fraud. What is lacking for you? Even biden tells you there is fraud for himself and obama. Same in 2018. You support criminal behaviors? JUST ASKING.
https://rumble.com/vfbwwh-part-1-sidney-powell-is-not-backing-down.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1
https://rumble.com/vfbwzt-part-2-sidney-powell-gives-her-side-of-the-story.html?mref=23gga&mrefc=2
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CORRECT. MEDIA IS LYING...AGAIN.
https://rumble.com/vfbwwh-part-1-sidney-powell-is-not-backing-down.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1
And you have no credible proof to refute what came out of her mouth.
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And you have no credible proof to refute what came out of her mouth.
Wow, that was quick. I understand words. Easy for me. SHE TOLD YOU, WHAT WAS DONE, IN PART ONE. Ok. I am done.
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Powell and Trump; watta 'tag team'!!!