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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: HAPPY2BME on October 10, 2016, 03:34:43 pm

Title: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: HAPPY2BME on October 10, 2016, 03:34:43 pm
BFH
October 9, 2016

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYuLak9xuhY

http://iotwreport.com/this-was-the-moment-of-the-entire-debate/
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Axel on October 10, 2016, 03:40:12 pm
Been waiting months for Trump to say that to her face!

It seemed like Trump was going to practice restraint until the first two questions were about the hot mic comments, then the gloves quickly came off.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: HAPPY2BME on October 10, 2016, 03:43:19 pm

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Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Sanguine on October 10, 2016, 03:55:30 pm
Just watching her reaction, that hit the target.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: sinkspur on October 10, 2016, 03:58:19 pm
Yep. That was the moment Trump nailed his coffin shut.  He can never come back from that. 

Third world dictators put their opponents in jail.  (And he couldn't do it even if he wanted to).
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: mirraflake on October 10, 2016, 03:59:18 pm
Loved it..classic Trump. 
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: HonestJohn on October 10, 2016, 06:40:09 pm
Yep. That was the moment Trump nailed his coffin shut.  He can never come back from that. 

Third world dictators put their opponents in jail.  (And he couldn't do it even if he wanted to).

Yep.

It was also the classic two minutes of hate for his supporters.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: ABX on October 10, 2016, 06:42:57 pm
You hated it under Obama...

...but you'll love it under Trump...
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Rivergirl on October 10, 2016, 06:49:37 pm
I became NEVER TRUMP when he accused Dr. Carson of being a pedophile that could not be cured. There was not one moment during the primaries that DT said anything that did not cause a deep visceral concern for America.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: geronl on October 10, 2016, 06:50:54 pm
Like some third world dictator Trump threatens to jail any opposition. Putin must be so proud.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: ABX on October 10, 2016, 06:52:17 pm
I became NEVER TRUMP when he accused Dr. Carson of being a pedophile that could not be cured. There was not one moment during the primaries that DT said anything that did not cause a deep visceral concern for America.

The whole 'pedophile who can't be cured' attack is going to take an interesting twist in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Silver Pines on October 10, 2016, 07:00:07 pm
Kellyanne Conway already walked back the jail remark; she said it was only a "quip."
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: geronl on October 10, 2016, 07:03:18 pm
The whole 'pedophile who can't be cured' attack is going to take an interesting twist in the next few weeks.

he tweeted the same thing about Anthony Weiner, 100% cannot be cured....

talk about being hoisted on your own petard
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Gov Bean Counter on October 10, 2016, 07:51:40 pm
he tweeted the same thing about Anthony Weiner, 100% cannot be cured....

talk about being hoisted on your own petard

Would that be literally or figuratively???
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on October 10, 2016, 08:25:17 pm
he tweeted the same thing about Anthony Weiner, 100% cannot be cured....

talk about being hoisted on your own petard
It's by or with not on. Trump was hoisted by his own petard. Which given the possible origin of the word is quite fitting:

A petard is, or rather was, as they have long since fallen out of use, a small engine of war used to blow breaches in gates or walls. They were originally metallic and bell-shaped but later cubical wooden boxes. Whatever the shape, the significant feature was that they were full of gunpowder - basically what we would now call a bomb.

The device was used by the military forces of all the major European fighting nations by the 16th century. In French and English - petar or petard, and in Spanish and Italian - petardo.

The dictionary maker John Florio defined them like this in 1598:

"Petardo - a squib or petard of gun powder vsed to burst vp gates or doores with."

The French have the word 'péter' - to fart, which it's hard to imagine is unrelated....
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/hoist-by-your-own-petard.html

Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: geronl on October 10, 2016, 08:39:09 pm
Would that be literally or figuratively???

Trump is a pervert, he might enjoy it literally
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: geronl on October 10, 2016, 08:40:00 pm
It's by or with not on. Trump was hoisted by his own petard. Which given the possible origin of the word is quite fitting:


I don't know why, but I always assumed it was a nautical term.  :shrug:
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 10, 2016, 08:42:27 pm
Trump is a pervert, he might enjoy it literally



This is exactly the same sort of nastiness I despised over at Free Republic when it was directed at Ted Cruz. 


Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Silver Pines on October 10, 2016, 08:48:47 pm


This is exactly the same sort of nastiness I despised over at Free Republic when it was directed at Ted Cruz.

@DiogenesLamp


The difference is that Cruz never admitted to sexually abusing women.  Trump did.  He's a piece of filth who deserves whatever he gets.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Charlespg on October 10, 2016, 08:50:59 pm
BFH
October 9, 2016

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYuLak9xuhY

http://iotwreport.com/this-was-the-moment-of-the-entire-debate/
   (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuXrBh3WAAEvw5r.jpg)

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Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Charlespg on October 10, 2016, 09:07:54 pm


This is exactly the same sort of nastiness I despised over at Free Republic when it was directed at Ted Cruz. 



Its become common place here ,no honest dissuasion  about the issues any more
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Silver Pines on October 10, 2016, 09:16:35 pm
Its become common place here ,no honest dissuasion  about the issues any more

@Charlespg

I think the fact that the Republican nominee has admitted to sexual battery is an issue worth discussing.  You don't?
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: libertybele on October 10, 2016, 09:20:46 pm
Actually the most pivotal moment during the debate I believe is when Trump apologized for talking about groping women and then stated that Clinton's husband not only actually groped several women but also raped!  I saw the replay of that portion of the debate; Bill looked absolutely infuriated!  I think it was a point well made.  It absolutely does not excuse Trump's vulgarity nor his crudeness, but it certainly put things in the proper perspective as far as Hillary and Bill go.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Victoria33 on October 10, 2016, 09:21:00 pm

Yes, it was the defining moment - it shows what he would do to all who oppose him, just like other dictators and fascist leaders do - think Hitler.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Silver Pines on October 10, 2016, 09:27:25 pm
Yes, it was the defining moment - it shows what he would do to all who oppose him, just like other dictators and fascist leaders do - think Hitler.

@Victoria33

He'd be speaking in a higher register and possibly minus an eye if he tried it with me.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Emjay on October 10, 2016, 10:33:19 pm
The whole 'pedophile who can't be cured' attack is going to take an interesting twist in the next few weeks.

Why did Ben Carson support Trump after that?  Ben never recovered.

Why did John McCain support Trump after the 'dumb to be taken prisoner' remark?

Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Emjay on October 10, 2016, 10:35:09 pm
@DiogenesLamp


The difference is that Cruz never admitted to sexually abusing women.  Trump did.  He's a piece of filth who deserves whatever he gets.

Cruz not only didn't admit it; he didn't do it.
Title: Re: This was THE MOMENT of the entire debate
Post by: Silver Pines on October 10, 2016, 11:24:18 pm
Cruz not only didn't admit it; he didn't do it.

@Emjay

That's right, I should have worded it differently.  The whole mess was fabricated by Trump's buddy at the National Enquirer.