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Video No-Show: NY Judge Bans Live Courtroom Coverage of Trump Arraignment
A handful of press photographers will be allowed to take pictures in the New York courtroom where former President Donald Trump will be arraigned on Tuesday while video news cameras have been banned from providing live coverage.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/video-no-show-ny-judge-bans-live-courtroom-coverage-of-trump-arraignment/
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Trump arraignment may reveal dozens of charges over Daniels payments
by Rebecca Beitsch - 04/04/23 6:00 AM ET
Former President Trump is expected to face what could be more than two dozen counts across different charges as he makes his first appearance in court Tuesday, following an indictment in connection with concealing hush money payments to an adult film star.
The charges will be revealed when Trump is arraigned in Manhattan. In the brief courtroom exchange, Judge Juan Merchan will read aloud the laws the former president is alleged to have violated, while Trump is expected to plead not guilty.
The criminal charges stem from a $130,000 payment made to Stormy Daniels by Trump fixer Michael Cohen. Though hush money payments are not illegal, the manner in which Trump and Cohen concealed the payments could be, casting the reimbursements as legal expenses.
Reports indicate Trump could face charges on more than 30 counts from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D).
The potential for dozens of charges likely reflect Trump’s lengthy payment history with Cohen – spread out over about a year – as well as the track prosecutors take in tying the misdemeanor records falsification to a felony that could include both tax fraud and campaign finance violations.
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https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,494439.new.html#new
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Cohen and Kinzinger must be long lost brothers. Too damned similar not to be.
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Trump lashes out on eve of arraignment, calls for Bragg to ‘indict himself’ over ‘illegal’ leaks
On the eve of his arraignment before a New York Supreme Court Judge, former President Trump lashed out online, asserting his innocence and calling for the Manhattan prosecutor leading the case to be indicted over “illegal” leaks.
Trump accused Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg (D) of having leaked “the various points, and complete information, on the pathetic indictment against me,” claiming that the still-sealed indictment includes 33 counts against him.
“I know the reporter and so, unfortunately, does he. This means that he MUST BE IMMEDIATELY INDICTED. Now, if he wants to really clean up his reputation, he will do the honorable thing and, as District Attorney, INDICT HIMSELF,” Trump said in a post on his Truth Social platform.
“D.A. BRAGG JUST ILLEGALLY LEAKED THE 33 points of Indictment. There are no changes or surprises from those he leaked days ago directly out of the Grand Jury. No Crime by Trump. What a MESS. Bragg should resign, NOW!” he added in another post.
Reports have indicated Trump could face charges on around 30 counts in the case, related to his alleged role in hush money payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniels to quell her allegations of an affair, which Trump denies, amid his 2016 presidential campaign.
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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3932927-trump-lashes-out-on-eve-of-arraignment-calls-for-bragg-to-indict-himself-over-illegal-leaks/
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A timeline of what to expect for Trump’s Tuesday arraignment
Former President Donald Trump is expected to turn himself in Tuesday to the Manhattan District’s Office for his arraignment, which is scheduled at 2:15 p.m.
The former president will likely use a side entrance to the courthouse at 1 Hogan Place that is not accessible to the public around 1 p.m., roughly an hour before legal proceedings are set to begin.
The arraignment, which will be presided over by Justice Juan Merchan, will take about 15 to 30 minutes, while Trump is expected to plead not guilty to charges revolving around alleged hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels.
Heavy security is expected around the building with a limited amount of press, who will be thoroughly searched, allowed into the facility. The former president will be escorted to the courtroom for the arraignment, then is expected to leave the same way he came in.
From there, Trump plans to fly back to his Florida home to deliver remarks later this evening, though a potential gag order could limit what the former president is able to reveal about his case.
Posted by Michael Lee
Fox News
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Those '34 Charges' Against Trump May Not Be What They Seem
By Nick Arama | 1:00 AM on April 04, 2023
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But I want to re-up my comments from Saturday when I said this “charge stacking” is likely what would happen. Prosecutors can try to charge as many things as they can, even if those charges only pertain to one incident. So let’s assume for the moment in this alleged “falsification of business records” charge, that Trump had to file a form that had signatures or initials on the same form multiple times. Each signature/initial could be counted as a potential charge, even if it’s all on the same form and just one incident. So if you had a 34-page form with signatures or initials on each page, you could potentially make 34 charges out of it. We’ll know when we see the real indictment to see precisely what they are talking about. It’s also a bit of flooding of the jury, all they would have to agree to is one to convict. This increases that possibility.
But I think this is mostly about making Trump look bad to the public and the potential jury pool. It’s about having people go “34 charges!!!” and say how awful Trump is, when it all may apply just to the one matter. It’s trying to make the turkey of a case look like it’s something more than it is by buffaloing people with the number. I think it’s more evidence of the bias in this matter, as this shows Bragg trying to throw everything and anything against the wall to try to make something stick when what he truly has is a legally pathetic case.
Then the report says that they’re Class E felonies. That’s the lowest felony. As we noted, he’s already may be bootstrapping this matter by taking what would be a misdemeanor ordinarily and trying to make it a felony. But that raises questions about how he’s charging that, if it’s truly a federal crime (and thus not properly charged here in New York), and if there are statute of limitations issues that he’s trying to get around in this endeavor. As I wrote, Trump’s attorney has already said he’s going to move to have the case dismissed. Those issues and others may factor into any such motion, depending on what the indictment shows on Tuesday.
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https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2023/04/04/those-34-charges-against-trump-may-not-be-what-they-seem-n725992
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Judge Juan Merchan to allow 5 photographers in the courtroom for 'several minutes,' no video cameras during Trump arraignment
The Post Millennial / Apr 4, 2023
New York Judge Juan Merchan ruled on Monday night that no video cameras will be allowed in the courtroom where former President Donald Trump will be arraigned on Tuesday and that only a handful of photographers will be allowed to take pictures.
According to ABC News, Merchan issued the ruling after Trump’s legal team argued against having cameras in the courtroom, claiming it would create a “circus-like atmosphere at the arraignment, raise unique security concerns, and is inconsistent with President Trump’s presumption of innocence.”
Trump’s lawyer Joe Tacopina said, "We don't normally allow cameras in courtrooms why make an exception now? To make a spectacle. They want that. We don’t."
Additionally, five still photographers will be allowed in the courtroom for several minutes before being vacated from the room and no electronic devices will be allowed in the main or overflow courtrooms.
Merchan wrote in the decision, "that this indictment involves a matter of monumental significance cannot possibly be disputed. Never in the history of the United States has a sitting or past President been indicted on criminal charges."
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https://thepostmillennial.com/judge-juan-merchan-to-allow-5-photographers-in-the-courtroom-for-several-minutes-no-video-cameras-during-trump-arraignment
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Report: Media in Place for Trump’s Arraignment Since Monday, Hired Professional Line Holders
Media outlets had representatives lining up in New York for former President Donald Trump’s arraignment at least 24-hours before his Tuesday appearance, according to a reporter.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/report-media-in-place-for-trumps-arraignment-since-monday-hired-professional-line-holders/
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Wish I had the time today to go downtown and watch the circus roll into town. Oh well.
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Report: Media in Place for Trump’s Arraignment Since Monday, Hired Professional Line Holders
Not only are they corrupt, and liars,..... they are lazy as hell.
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What a picture. Trump exudes confidence and ultimate bravery.
Prayers up for President Trump. He's facing 34 felony charges. How many are bogus??
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What a picture. Trump exudes confidence and ultimate bravery.
Prayers up for President Trump. He's facing 34 felony charges. How many are bogus??
The indictment is basically based on so-called charge-stacking, where the prosecutor takes each and every little misstep and turns it into a separate charge.
For example, the basic charge here is falsifying business records. Well, if, for example, Trump signed a single document, and then four photocopies were made - say one for him, one for the other party to the agreement, one for corporate records, and one for the lawyer who worked the deal, the prosecutor would turn that into five separate charges - one for the original document, and a separate charge for each photocopy.
It's prosecutor-ese for throw everything at the wall to see what sticks. It's also a rhetorical device, because the media will then report that the defendant was hit with some humongous number of charges, which always rhetorically makes the defendant look worse than he actually is. That, of course, can subtlety taint the jury pool.
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Wish I had the time today to go downtown and watch the circus roll into town. Oh well.
Circus? I don't see this as a circus in any way. If they can go after a former president they certainly can go after you and I.
This IMO is no joke, circus or laughing matter.
Like Trump or not, what is happening to him is wrong!
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Circus? I don't see this as a circus in any way. If they can go after a former president they certainly can go after you and I.
This IMO is no joke, circus or laughing matter.
Like Trump or not, what is happening to him is wrong!
It is a circus, but that doesn't make it a joke.
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That, of course, can subtlety taint the jury pool.
Which how can a valid jury pool be even established for a case of this magnitude. Finding 9 Rip-Van-Winkles is going to be quite a task.
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It is a circus, but that doesn't make it a joke.
Technically the Stuff at Colosseum in Rome say 100 a.d. was a Circus. I don't think many on the playing field thought it was a joke.
Wouldn't be a hoot it if he is found not guilty or springs on a technicality and does his best Maximus.....
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Which how can a valid jury pool be even established for a case of this magnitude. Finding 9 Rip-Van-Winkles is going to be quite a task.
The tainting that happens with charge-stacking happens in all cases, to one degree or another.
The remedy is the degree to which the attorneys do their background research on the potential jurors, the degree to which they do a hard voir dire in questioning the potential jurors, and the number of peremptory strikes each side has.
The mere fact that this happens is unfortunate, but it is not per-se inconsistent with the concept of a fair jury, not the least because it's been going on for probably ever since there were public prosecutors.
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WATCH: Demonstrators Clash over ‘TRUMP LIES ALL THE TIME’ Banner in Manhattan
https://twitter.com/MeechMemez/status/1643242281300795393
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https://twitter.com/MeechMemez/status/1643248351394004993
more here
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/press-member-grabs-bystander-manhattan-courthouse-dont-fck-with-me/
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This is what I was afraid of; insurrection and unrest. This is exactly what the left wants. This is not going to turn out well and ultimately our country continues to suffer.
I couldn't help but notice that the member of the 'press' was Black; this could get even more ugly than I thought.
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https://twitter.com/MeechMemez/status/1643248351394004993
more here
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/press-member-grabs-bystander-manhattan-courthouse-dont-fck-with-me/
Wanna good consolation outcome of a bad day? A bunch of MSM pukes getting the shit beat out of them after provoking the crowd.
I will enjoy that and. will have on DVR loop.
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WATCH: Demonstrators Clash over ‘TRUMP LIES ALL THE TIME’ Banner in Manhattan
https://twitter.com/MeechMemez/status/1643242281300795393
https://twitter.com/MeechMemez/status/1643248351394004993
more here
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/press-member-grabs-bystander-manhattan-courthouse-dont-fck-with-me/
Like I said earlier, the circus is coming to town.
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NYC protesters clash with cops over Trump indictment outside court
By Georgett Roberts, Kevin Sheehan, Jack Morphet and Ben Kesslen
April 4, 2023
Screaming protesters clashed with cops and the media outside Manhattan Supreme Court on Tuesday morning, hours before former President Donald Trump was set to be arraigned there for alleged improper business practices.
A Trump backer dared anyone to “touch” her MAGA hat in the packed, hectic scrum of supporters of the ex-president, counter-protesters and the media around 10 a.m.
NYPD cops yelled at some of the protesters to calm down as members of the opposing groups pushed and screamed their way through the crowd of hundreds.
NYPD Community Affairs officers were pulling anti-Trump protesters from the pro-Trump area, returning them to the side of Collect Pond Park designated for them, trying to keep the two sides separate as they rushed to remove people the moment they heard an argument.
Maverick Stow of Long Island told The Post that the police were actively discouraging protesters from being in the area.
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Source: https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/nyc-protesters-clash-with-cops-over-trump-indictment/
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A man tens of millions of people voted for is going to jail for BS charges... what did they expect?
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A man tens of millions of people voted for is going to jail for BS charges... what did they expect?
The first confrontation from what I can tell was instigated by a Black man from the press. So ...... it appears that race is going to enter into this and that's a losing battle. The race card wins these days every time.
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https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1643270636041633793
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https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1643265519930466305
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https://twitter.com/BigFish3000/status/1643269640519393282
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Photos: Trump arrest day in NYC
By Alex Mead
April 4, 2023
Source: https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/photos-trump-indictment-day-in-nyc/#1
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https://twitter.com/BigFish3000/status/1643269640519393282
The NY Post is airing it:
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Source: https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/photos-trump-indictment-day-in-nyc/
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Circus? I don't see this as a circus in any way. If they can go after a former president they certainly can go after you and I.
True, but I don't think that's why this is so important. The fact is, they wouldn't charge you or I for this. The real evil here is that they are trying to deprive their fellow citizens of the right to freely choose their elected representatives. If they get away with this with Trump, they will most certainly try it with any other conservative politician who metaphorically drives 56 miles an hour in a 55 zone.
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I got to see this shit. Is it only on PBS? /s
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True, but I don't think that's why this is so important. The fact is, they wouldn't charge you or I for this. The real evil here is that they are trying to deprive their fellow citizens of the right to freely choose their elected representatives. If they get away with this with Trump, they will most certainly try it with any other conservative politician who metaphorically drives 56 miles an hour in a 55 zone.
Absolutely.
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Donald J. Trump
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Heading to Lower Manhattan, the Courthouse. Seems so SURREAL — WOW, they are going to ARREST ME. Can’t believe this is happening in America. MAGA!
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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WHEN YOU SEE RINO’S KARL ROVE, BILL BARR, OR PAUL RYAN ON YOUR TELEVISION SCREEN, JUST TURN TO A DIFFERENT STATION, OR TURN OFF YOUR SET. YOU’RE BETTER OFF WATCHING THE DEMOCRATS!
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Donald J. Trump
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WHEN YOU SEE RINO’S KARL ROVE, BILL BARR, OR PAUL RYAN ON YOUR TELEVISION SCREEN, JUST TURN TO A DIFFERENT STATION, OR TURN OFF YOUR SET. YOU’RE BETTER OFF WATCHING THE DEMOCRATS!
Newsmax seems to be providing the most pro-Trump coverage
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Oh brother...
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Oh brother...
I'm surprised it's not an image of him walking on the Hudson River.
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I'm surprised it's not an image of him walking on the Hudson River.
To Sullenberger. Trump would just part the Hudson like Moses
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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WHEN YOU SEE RINO’S KARL ROVE, BILL BARR, OR PAUL RYAN ON YOUR TELEVISION SCREEN, JUST TURN TO A DIFFERENT STATION, OR TURN OFF YOUR SET. YOU’RE BETTER OFF WATCHING THE DEMOCRATS!
Bill Barr is a very experienced prosecutor who has blasted this prosecution, including pointing out specifically why even the misdemeanor charges lack merit.
But of course, that's not good enough for Trump. Either you worship him 100% of the time, are you or his enemy.
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To Sullenberger. Trump would just part the Hudson like Moses
Idea for a Trump meme ala George Carlin swimming in the Hudson, "We were tempered in raw shit"
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https://twitter.com/RichKleinCrisis/status/1643319889812152321
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https://twitter.com/RedState/status/1643320974769639424
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So tell me this, these offenses (felonies) pertain to just New York? They are not criminal charges in all/most states right? Basically they are just "NY Values"?
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https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/1643320029801226242
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So tell me this, these offenses (felonies) pertain to just New York? They are not criminal charges in all/most states right? Basically they are "NY Values"?
The charges are all under NY law. Yes. The primary charges aren't under the law of any other state or jurisdiction, because the State of NY does not have jurisdiction to, on its own, enforce the criminal law of another state or other jurisdiction.
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https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1643321541956960259
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https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1643320866292346884
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https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1643321541956960259
Heh heh heh
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One and only photo from courtroom
https://twitter.com/mattsheffield/status/1643323022504493056
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https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1643321541956960259
Lol, how the shortened the other fingers and extended one.
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Lol, how the shortened the other fingers and extended one.
Exactly. happy77
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https://twitter.com/JDunlap1974/status/1643317172482068484
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Oh brother...
It’s just an allegorical rendering of our circumstances.
Trump is popular, the nation is at a dangerous crossroads, traditional/patriotic Americans are hungering for strong leadership to fight back against progressive lunacy, and many see Donald Trump as that leader.
He is the biggest target of the left, he’s experienced their playbook up front and personal and learned a few things from it, and is best positioned to rally MAGA Americans for the political battles ahead.
I liked the photo.
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https://twitter.com/BoSnerdley/status/1643324818689777666
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34 counts of falsifying business records..1st degree per Fox
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Has a pdf of the indictment itself been released yet?
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NBC News
@NBCNews
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BREAKING: Former President Trump pleads not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records related to hush money payments in 2016.
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https://twitter.com/EricMMatheny/status/1643325101788594176
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MARK SIMONE
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There are 34 counts, which is exactly what the leak said days ago. That proves there was a real leak, a serious crime, right under Alvin Bragg's nose in his own building. Will he prosecute the leaker? Assuming it's not him.
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Has a pdf of the indictment itself been released yet?
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MARK SIMONE
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There are 34 counts, which is exactly what the leak said days ago. That proves there was a real leak, a serious crime, right under Alvin Bragg's nose in his own building. Will he prosecute the leaker? Assuming it's not him.
Of course he won't prosecute. More likely, if the leaker was he himself, the leaker will get a promotion and a bonus for the leak.
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NBC News
@NBCNews
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BREAKING: Former President Trump pleads not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records related to hush money payments in 2016.
Maybe I am just shooting spitballs, but the matter of the business records of a company and associated direct culpability is normally limited to a CFO and associated staff. Smart CEO's limit their liability by removing themselves from the day to day dollars and cents. Normally when the SEC nabs CEO's for these matters, they are confined in Civil Court. Unless there is some direct proof saying otherwise.
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Cernovich
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If you don’t have a problem with what’s happening today, you’re either in a cult or are a communist who worships Stalin.
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Eric Trump
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#FreeTrump
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Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
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The arrest and arraignment of former President Donald Trump by a left-wing Soros prosecutor today is making a mockery of the rule of law.
Not only is the indictment frivolous, this political persecution marks a dark day for our country.
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DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
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Now that Trump has been arrested, legal precedent has been set
Former Presidents can now be raided by the FBI & indicted by city prosecutors
I have a feeling Dems are going to regret opening up this Pandora’s box
How about GOP DAs start charging ppl on Epstein’s client list?
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Maybe I am just shooting spitballs, but the matter of the business records of a company and associated direct culpability is normally limited to a CFO and associated staff. Smart CEO's limit their liability by removing themselves from the day to day dollars and cents. Normally when the SEC nabs CEO's for these matters, they are confined in Civil Court. Unless there is some direct proof saying otherwise.
That's pretty much true as a general matter. This is a closely held corporation so I'd imagine Trump actually signed some of the paperwork. It also is my understanding that a lot of Cohen's testimony is going to be putting incriminating words in Trump's mouth.
I don't have much faith in the trial judge, but I do think they're going to have a tough time establishing the essential element of intent to defraud with respect to the falsification of business records. As Bill Barr pointed out, What seems to be lacking is the purported target of the alleged intent to defrost.
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Eric Trump
@EricTrump
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BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.
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Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
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BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.
LOL glad she’s out there saying her T-shirt sales are booming she’ll be able to afford to pay Trump!
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Eric Trump
@EricTrump
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BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.
Dang...that's a lot of nights on the street corner.
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Julie Kelly 🇺🇸
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If you think today is a dark day for America, just wait until Trump’s motorcade winds its way though the nation’s capital before arriving at DC federal courthouse to face criminal charges under Biden/Monaco DOJ for classified documents farce and January 6.
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Eric Trump
@EricTrump
BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.
3:00 PM · Apr 4, 2023
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Eric Trump
@EricTrump
BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.
3:00 PM · Apr 4, 2023
Being awarded $$ is one thing actually getting it is quite another.
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Eric Trump
@EricTrump
BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.
3:00 PM · Apr 4, 2023
The Ninth Circus gets one right? Everything keeps getting weirder and weirder.
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Emerald Robinson ✝️
@EmeraldRobinson
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Watching AG Bill Barr complain about the indictment of President Trump is laughable: there’s nobody in the Trump Administration more responsible for destabilizing law & order in America than him.
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Biden himself is absolutely nailed on unlawful removal and retention of classified materials.
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Eric Trump
@EricTrump
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BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.
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Kate Hyde
@KateHydeNY
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The White House just called a lid on the day, of course.
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Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
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BREAKING!!! the 9th Circuit just awarded Trump $121,962.56 in attorney fees from Stormy Daniels. Order just released. This in addition to the roughly $500k she already owes him.
LOL glad she’s out there saying her T-shirt sales are booming she’ll be able to afford to pay Trump!
More spitballs....... Not sure of the details of counter suit loss (#1 and #2) by Daniels, but are their details of fraud on her behalf or other shenanigans that might be included as exculpatory evidence in Trump's trial. To me this sounds like a trend and a losing streak, and more data points that may strengthen Trump's case
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Emerald Robinson ✝️
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Watching AG Bill Barr complain about the indictment of President Trump is laughable: there’s nobody in the Trump Administration more responsible for destabilizing law & order in America than him.
Bill Barr was a very good attorney general. Some people who don't understand the role of the AG, or who believe that Barr somehow failed to stop voting fraud, need to get better educated.
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More spitballs....... Not sure of the details of counter suit loss (#1 and #2) by Daniels, but are their details of fraud on her behalf or other shenanigans that might be included as exculpatory evidence in Trump's trial. To me this sounds like a trend and a losing streak, and more data points that may strengthen Trump's case
I could be wrong, but I believe this is about her unsuccessful attempt to weasel out of the agreement that she signed. Even though that is obviously the subject matter of the agreement in question, it isn't an issue directly relevant to the case and likely wouldn't even be admissible.
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I could be wrong, but I believe this is about her unsuccessful attempt to weasel out of the agreement that she signed. Even though that is obviously the subject matter of the agreement in question, it isn't an issue directly relevant to the case and likely wouldn't even be admissible.
Thanks... I hadn't kept up with this, but makes sense that Trump would fight back at her default on her NDA.
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Kate Hyde
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The White House just called a lid on the day, of course.
There's a big party going on in the Eisenhower building.
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Just for S&G, this is the felony version of the NY law for falsifying business records, NY Penal Law § 175.10:
§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.
Falsifying business records in the second degree is defined as follows, NY Penal Law § 175.05:
§ 175.05 Falsifying business records in the second degree.
A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the second degree when, with intent to defraud, he:
1. Makes or causes a false entry in the business records of an enterprise; or
2. Alters, erases, obliterates, deletes, removes or destroys a true entry in the business records of an enterprise; or
3. Omits to make a true entry in the business records of an enterprise in violation of a duty to do so which he knows to be imposed upon him by law or by the nature of his position; or
4. Prevents the making of a true entry or causes the omission thereof in the business records of an enterprise.
Falsifying business records in the second degree is a class A misdemeanor.
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I'd like to see what all 34 counts relate to.
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I'm still not sure what fraud was supposed to have been intended, assuming arguendo that Trump caused company records to reflect the payment to the hooker as something other than a payment for services of a personal nature.
If it was on the records of a corporation, the standard treatment is to treat the payment as a constructive dividend distribution to the shareholder for whose benefit the payment was made, and assess income tax on the amount.
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No Gag order issued
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Manu Raju
@mkraju
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17m
The next in-person hearing date for Trump’s case in New York is set for December 4 as of right now, @Lauren_delvalle reports
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Here is a link to the indictment itself: https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2023/04/04/Donald-J-Trump-Indictment.pdf
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https://twitter.com/TickleTexts/status/1643339403694055424
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"You know the cops in NY hated doing what they were ordered to do." (Video]
https://mobile.twitter.com/TAftermath2020/status/1643338256833183744
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Here is a link to the indictment itself: https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2023/04/04/Donald-J-Trump-Indictment.pdf
Time for a bill of particulars, at the least. The indictment fails to indicate the facts that support the conclusion that there was intent to defraud which included the intent to commit another crime, or to conceal the commission thereof.
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Read the unsealed indictment against Trump as he faces 34 felony counts
https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/trumps-34-felony-charges-carry-a-136-year-maximum-sentence/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news_alert&utm_content=20230404?&utm_source=sailthru&lctg=607d8f7070302947037f9d53&utm_term=NYP%20-%20News%20Alerts
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I'm still not sure what fraud was supposed to have been intended, assuming arguendo that Trump caused company records to reflect the payment to the hooker as something other than a payment for services of a personal nature.
If it was on the records of a corporation, the standard treatment is to treat the payment as a constructive dividend distribution to the shareholder for whose benefit the payment was made, and assess income tax on the amount.
The alleged "intent to defraud" seems really shaky to me, especially since he personally was not charged with tax fraud.
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Indictment:
https://www.scribd.com/document/636100024/Trump-Indictment
@Kamaji
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Here is a link to the indictment itself: https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2023/04/04/Donald-J-Trump-Indictment.pdf
Does it come with a laugh track?
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Newmax reports that 34 counts are basically repetitive like 34 different checks for the same business infraction.
Contrast that vs. an occupant in the WH who likely sold influence to the Chicoms for $millions, and maybe with national security implications.
So bizarre.
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Eric Trump
@EricTrump
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29m
Alvin Bragg has shut down the entire city, called up 38,000 NYPD police officers, closed down the FDR Drive and is spending an estimated $200 million of city funds, all for a $130,000 NDA. I never thought I would see this level of corruption in the United States.
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No Gag order issued
I wonder if one was requested and denied, or just not requested at all.
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Time for a bill of particulars, at the least. The indictment fails to indicate the facts that support the conclusion that there was intent to defraud which included the intent to commit another crime, or to conceal the commission thereof.
I think lawyers like to keep these things as open as possible because it allows them to add stuff later at a whim (or as discovery runs across things). Must admit as first glance reading, it is boring as heck and repetitive.
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https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1643342713297723395
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Greg Price
@greg_price11
All 34 charges in the Trump indictment are "falsifying business records to conceal another crime."
"To conceal another crime" is how Alvin Bragg was able to elevate it to a felony.
But nowhere in the indictment does it say what that second crime was.
4:01 PM · Apr 4, 2023
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https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1643340102922371076
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https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1643341848029659139
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Greg Price
@greg_price11
BREAKING: NBC News claimed that one of the 34 felony charges for Trump was "conspiracy," which was heavily boosted by liberal accounts.
A conspiracy charge does not appear anywhere in the indictment.
3:54 PM · Apr 4, 2023
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Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
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6m
"We cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct." -Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg, as he lets violent murders go and prosecutes self defense. A sick joke.
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David Benjamin
@thetoyman1
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18m
Legal experts LAUGHING at DA @ManhattanDA charging President Trump with 34 felonies. No meat on the bone? Repetitive charges with no naming of what he exactly did? WEAK PARTISAN HACK!
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https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf
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https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1643347426302894080
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https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1643349194332053507
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LivePDDave 🇺🇸
@LivePDDave1
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54m
Trump's motorcade is heading straight to LaGuardia right now to fly back to Mar-a-Lago. GTFO of that godforsaken hellhole!
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Trump will speak to the public tonight...where and what time?
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Jimmy Failla
@jimmyfailla
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25m
Prosecution asking to hold the trial in January of 2024 right at the start of the primary season. But tell me again how this isn’t a political persecution you 🤡’s
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The indictment is basically based on so-called charge-stacking, where the prosecutor takes each and every little misstep and turns it into a separate charge.
@Kamaji
The Dims/Murikan left spend HOW long putting this kangaroo trial together,and THIS is the best they can do?
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https://twitter.com/McBrideLawNYC/status/1643316454970802179
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Circus? I don't see this as a circus in any way. If they can go after a former president they certainly can go after you and I.
@libertybele
They won't,though. There is no fame or fortune to be made from going after people like us.
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🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
@mrddmia
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14m
Wow.
Bragg is much dumber than I expected.
(Harvard. Harvard Law. How did that happen?)
This press conference is stunning.
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https://twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1643347948284047366
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https://twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1643347948284047366
I heard Trump Hater Cavuto on Fox called it a "Nothing Burger".
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https://twitter.com/MeechMemez/status/1643248351394004993
more here
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/press-member-grabs-bystander-manhattan-courthouse-dont-fck-with-me/
@mystery-ak
That SOB would only grab me once,and he would be wanting his mama. Cumbered by all that camera gear and with only one hand free,I would make him my bitch without even breaking into a sweat.
Kinda want to do it,anyhow,but NYC is too far for me to travel,just to teach manners to some asshat who thinks he is immune because he is black.
BTW,for anyone wondering,MY version of a "fair fight" is one that *I* win,regardless of what it takes.
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I think lawyers like to keep these things as open as possible because it allows them to add stuff later at a whim (or as discovery runs across things). Must admit as first glance reading, it is boring as heck and repetitive.
An indictment is supposed to apprise the defendant in sufficient detail that the defendant can prepare his/her defense. Frequently, however, the indictment is deficient in that respect, and the defendant can therefore demand a bill of particulars, which requires the prosecutor to provide the defendant with a statement that sets out the factual items that pertain to the offense charged, including the substance of the defendant's conduct that is encompassed by the charge. NY Crim. Proc. Law § 200.95
Source: https://casetext.com/statute/consolidated-laws-of-new-york/chapter-criminal-procedure/part-2-the-principal-proceedings/title-i-preliminary-proceedings-in-superior-court/article-200-indictment-and-related-instruments/section-20095-indictment-bill-of-particulars
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https://twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1643347948284047366
Underwhelming is one way to put it.
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https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1643349194332053507
:mauslaff:
Baloney. You already have. And now you're normalizing banana-republic levels of prosecutorial abuse and misconduct for rank political purposes.
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@mystery-ak
That SOB would only grab me once,and he would be wanting his mama. Cumbered by all that camera gear and with only one hand free,I would make him my bitch without even breaking into a sweat.
Kinda want to do it,anyhow,but NYC is too far for me to travel,just to teach manners to some asshat who thinks he is immune because he is black.
BTW,for anyone wondering,MY version of a "fair fight" is one that *I* win,regardless of what it takes.
Fair fights are for losers.
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https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1643347426302894080
Suppressing negative information to win an election?
Hmmm...that seems to be a some what precedent setting charge that should strike fear into the heart of any politician...including Joey.
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Jimmy Failla
@jimmyfailla
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25m
Prosecution asking to hold the trial in January of 2024 right at the start of the primary season. But tell me again how this isn’t a political persecution you 🤡’s
I guess Trump waved his right to a speedy trial. I wonder if they had any internal discussions about not doing it, and forcing the matter.
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CNN’s Miller: We ‘Whipped Ourselves up’ for a ‘Seven-Year-Old Case’ Against Trump ‘Nobody Wanted to Go Forward with’
Ian Hanchett 4 Apr 2023
While speaking on CNN on Tuesday, CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller stated that “we’ve kind of whipped ourselves up over the last week” over the indictment against former President Donald Trump and believed that “must be more than what we know” but the indictment is “just the same stuff we already knew” about a seven-year-old case that “nobody” in the prosecutor’s office wanted to move forward with.
Miller stated, “It’s an interesting shift today, because — and maybe it’s all our own fault — we’ve kind of whipped ourselves up over the last week about, if they’re bringing this case, it must be more than what we know is inside. And we looked inside today and [said], oh, it’s just the same stuff we already knew. So, what changed? It’s a seven-year-old case. In the D.A.’s office, they called this the zombie case, because every time they put it away, it came back to life, nobody wanted to go forward with it.”
He continued, “They had a larger, more complicated case involving hundreds of millions of dollars in overvaluing property in order to secure lines of credit and undervaluing property when it was time to pay taxes, and not just a little, but to the power of five. And it was a large, complex fraud based on the exact same charges, falsification of business records, but it was easier to articulate, the victims are the public, the taxpayers, the banks, the fraud. And he chose not to go forward with it. And yet, chose [to go forward] with this. So, it’s an odd turn.”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/04/04/cnns-miller-we-whipped-ourselves-up-for-a-seven-year-old-case-against-trump-nobody-wanted-to-go-forward-with/
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs5ql3yakAAdTGS?format=jpg&name=small)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs4-achWcAAPl2s?format=jpg&name=small)
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How so Mr. McCarthy? What is Congress doing or going to do??
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Mark Levin
@marklevinshow
1. Having read the list of charges, there's a big problem: no actual crime has actually been charged. That's right.
If a crime is committed when the defendant acts to conceal another crime, the question is what is the underlying crime that has been committed?
2. There is literally no underlying crime even referenced. Furthermore, President Trump has not been charged or convicted of any underlying crime. There is not crime. In fact, this is entirely unconstitutional.
3. And that's why Bragg has thrown so much against the wall -- to make it look like something it is not.
5:04 PM · Apr 4, 2023
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"CNN analyst calls the indictment "underwhelming." " (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1643347948284047366
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Suppressing negative information to win an election?
Hmmm...that seems to be a some what precedent setting charge that should strike fear into the heart of any politician...including Joey.
Fetterman comes to mind. They hid the truth about his health status after the stroke.
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Mark Levin
@marklevinshow
1. Having read the list of charges, there's a big problem: no actual crime has actually been charged. That's right.
If a crime is committed when the defendant acts to conceal another crime, the question is what is the underlying crime that has been committed?
2. There is literally no underlying crime even referenced. Furthermore, President Trump has not been charged or convicted of any underlying crime. There is not crime. In fact, this is entirely unconstitutional.
3. And that's why Bragg has thrown so much against the wall -- to make it look like something it is not.
5:04 PM · Apr 4, 2023
A well drawn indictment should allege the facts necessary to support the offenses charged; but failure to do so is not fatal in NY. The defendant can request a bill of particulars, which must contain the necessary factual allegations.
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Trump Campaign Fundraises with Fake Arrest Mugshot
Former President Donald Trump’s campaign is using a fake mugshot to fundraise after Trump’s arrest in New York on Tuesday.
(https://media.breitbart.com/media/2023/04/Trump-2024-Fake-Mugshot-T-shirt-640x480.png)
Jordan Dixon-Hamilton 4 Apr 2023
Former President Donald Trump’s campaign is using a fake mugshot to fundraise after Trump’s arrest in New York on Tuesday.
Trump was arrested after a New York grand jury voted to indict him last week. Trump voluntarily surrendered himself, flying from Florida to New York to be booked by New York law enforcement before his first court appearance on Tuesday.
Trump was arrested around 1:35 p.m. and appeared before the judge at 2:45 p.m., where he pleaded not guilty to all 34 counts of falsifying business records.
Unlike typical booking procedures, New York law enforcement did not take Trump’s mugshot. However, the lack of a mugshot did not stop the Trump campaign from creating a fake mugshot to raise funds.
Trump is selling an “Official Trump Mugshot White Cotton T-Shirt” on his website for $36. The fake mugshot is seen at the center of the t-shirt with the words “NOT GUILTY” printed right underneath the photo.
more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/04/trump-campaign-fundraises-with-fake-arrest-mugshot/
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I don't have much faith in the trial judge . . .
Just because the judge has a kid who worked for the VP candidate on the opposing Presidential ticket doesn't mean there are any conflicts here.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs5ql3yakAAdTGS?format=jpg&name=small)
So how is a NY County prosecutor able to invoke federal law when the former Governor of Arizona was blocked by a federal judge from invoking federal immigration law?
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How so Mr. McCarthy? What is Congress doing or going to do??
@libertybele
You mean other that pose as being concerned about a travesty of justice while hoping the left nails Trump because there is NOTHING in this world professional pols hate more than a outsider who is an amateur politician come in and show they up for who and what they are?
"Don't rock the boat" are words professional pols take to heart.
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I started watching Trump's speech tonight.....UGHHHH. I just couldn't take it. He was wronged for sure, but he needs to retire.
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From the indictment:
THE GRAND JURY OF THE COUNTY OF NEW YORK, by this indictment, accuses
the defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST
DEGREE, in violation of Penal Law §175.10, committed as follows:
The defendant, in the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017,
with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission
thereof, made and caused a false entry in the business records of an enterprise, to wit, an invoice
from Michael Cohen dated February 14, 2017, marked as a record of the Donald J. Trump
Revocable Trust, and kept and maintained by the Trump Organization.
Penal Law §175.10 has a statute of limitation of five years. Under NY Law, Trump cannot be prosecuted for this. Yet it is the main charge levied by a corrupt prosecutor.
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Second count:
SECOND COUNT:
AND THE GRAND JURY AFORESAID, by this indictment, further accuses the
defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE,
in violation of Penal Law §175.10, committed as follows:
The defendant, in the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017,
Second count is a parroting of the first count. Again, statute of limitations expired over a year ago.
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Third count:
THIRD COUNT:
AND THE GRAND JURY AFORESAID, by this indictment, further accuses the
defendant of the crime of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE,
in violation of Penal Law §175.10, committed as follows:
The defendant, in the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017
Another repeat of the first count.
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I started watching Trump's speech tonight.....UGHHHH. I just couldn't take it. He was wronged for sure, but he needs to retire.
Just the opposite here. He was forthright, honest and he and his entire family have been wronged.
I fear for President Trump but most of all I fear for our country.
With China and Russia now together, we will no longer be the Super Power nor will our currency be dominant.
America .... what will the world do without her?
Total chaos anyone? Russia and China will take us over. Anyone truly feel that's impossible?
Let's Go Brandon!!!
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Count four, count five, count six, . . . all the way up to count 34 reference the same NY statute with a five year limitation on prosecution. No federal charges there. Only the same NY Statute. No judge in their right mind would have allowed this arraignment. I hope Trump sues them for cost of fuel.
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DC_Draino
@DC_Draino
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15m
Never forget - Joe Biden was in the Oval Office w/ Obama when they coordinated the spying operation on President Trump w/the FBI, DOJ, and CIA in 2016
So is anyone surprised the guy who stole 2020 is now trying to imprison Trump before the 2024 election?
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So how is a NY County prosecutor able to invoke federal law when the former Governor of Arizona was blocked by a federal judge from invoking federal immigration law?
Simple. It's OK when Democrats do it.
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https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1643411504950136832
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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1643417516784459778
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Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
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Donald Trump says Alvin Bragg is the true criminal in this case because “he illegally leaked massive amount of grand jury information.”
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New York Consolidated Laws, Criminal Procedure Law - CPL § 30.10
Timeliness of prosecutions; periods of limitation
1. A criminal action must be commenced within the period of limitation prescribed in the ensuing subdivisions of this section.
2. Except as otherwise provided in subdivision three:
(a) A prosecution for a class A felony, or rape in the first degree as defined in section 130.35 of the penal law, or a crime defined or formerly defined in section 130.50 of the penal law, or aggravated sexual abuse in the first degree as defined in section 130.70 of the penal law, or course of sexual conduct against a child in the first degree as defined in section 130.75 of the penal law may be commenced at any time;
(b) A prosecution for any other felony must be commenced within five years after the commission thereof;
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https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1643406476323463171
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After listening to Trump's speech I fully expect the judge to issue a gag order...
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After listening to Trump's speech I fully expect the judge to issue a gag order...
What are they gonna do? Arrest Him. lol
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What are they gonna do? Arrest Him. lol
They wish.... :jail:
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New York Consolidated Laws, Criminal Procedure Law - CPL § 30.10
Timeliness of prosecutions; periods of limitation
1. A criminal action must be commenced within the period of limitation prescribed in the ensuing subdivisions of this section.
2. Except as otherwise provided in subdivision three:
(a) A prosecution for a class A felony, or rape in the first degree as defined in section 130.35 of the penal law, or a crime defined or formerly defined in section 130.50 of the penal law, or aggravated sexual abuse in the first degree as defined in section 130.70 of the penal law, or course of sexual conduct against a child in the first degree as defined in section 130.75 of the penal law may be commenced at any time;
(b) A prosecution for any other felony must be commenced within five years after the commission thereof;
Unfortunately, there is a tolling provision that is likely to apply. NY Crim. Proc. Law § 30.10(4)(a), to wit:
In calculating the time limitation applicable to commencement of a criminal action, the following periods shall not be included:
(a) Any period following the commission of the offense during which (i) the defendant was continuously outside this state or (ii) the whereabouts of the defendant were continuously unknown and continuously unascertainable by the exercise of reasonable diligence. However, in no event shall the period of limitation be extended by more than five years beyond the period otherwise applicable under subdivision two.
Subject to how the NY courts may have interpreted the phrase "continuously outside this state", the prosecutor is most likely counting on, for example, Trump's time spent in D.C. during his presidency as having tolled the statute of limitations.
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Unfortunately, there is a tolling provision that is likely to apply. NY Crim. Proc. Law § 30.10(4)(a), to wit:
Subject to how the NY courts may have interpreted the phrase "continuously outside this state", the prosecutor is most likely counting on, for example, Trump's time spent in D.C. during his presidency as having tolled the statute of limitations.
Trump was in and out of the Jurisdiction many times between 2017 and 2020, while he was President.
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@Hoodat
My understanding is they used some BS Covid rule that allowed an additional year. I am not going to hunt where I read that... sorry.
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Trump was in and out of the Jurisdiction many times between 2017 and 2020, while he was President.
In which case, there was probably a substantial amount of time tolled from the statute of limitations. As the Ulster County Court has previously held, the "continuously absent" language is merely meant to ensure that certain vacations and other brief excursions from NY State would not toll the statute, but otherwise, if the defendant has resided outside of NY, even for a period of as little as three months (such as when incarcerated in another state), then the statute of limitations will be tolled. People v. Ferrari, 155 Misc. 2d 749 (N.Y. Cnty. Ct. 1992).
The NY Court of Appeals has even gone so far as to hold that even a day of absence from the state will toll the statute. The Court of Appeals addressed that issue in People v. Knobel , 94 N.Y.2d 226, 701 N.Y.S.2d 695, 723 N.E.2d 550 (1999). The Court agreed with the People that "all periods of a day or more that a non-resident defendant is out-of-State should be totaled and toll the Statute of Limitations." People v. Knobel , 94 N.Y.2d at 230, 701 N.Y.S.2d 695, 723 N.E.2d 550.
Thus, under Court of Appeals precedent, every day that Trump was physically outside of NY probably tolled the statute of limitations, which means that the five-year period almost certainly hasn't expired yet.
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@Hoodat
My understanding is they used some BS Covid rule that allowed an additional year. I am not going to hunt where I read that... sorry.
I don't think they need to rely on some covid-derived rule, the NY Crim. Proc. Law contains a tolling provision that, as interpreted by the Court of Appeals, means that each day Trump spent outside of NYS is not taken into account in determining whether the five-year period has expired.
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Unfortunately, there is a tolling provision that is likely to apply. NY Crim. Proc. Law § 30.10(4)(a), to wit:
Subject to how the NY courts may have interpreted the phrase "continuously outside this state", the prosecutor is most likely counting on, for example, Trump's time spent in D.C. during his presidency as having tolled the statute of limitations.
@Kamaji
I don't believe that argument is going to fly. Section 4 is for subjects evading prosecution by making themselves unavailable to prosecutors which is something Trump has never done. There is no action that Trump has taken that can be construed as avoidance of trial commencement. Trump not only maintained New York residency for almost three years after the alleged offense took place, but he also maintained property and businesses there, revisiting the State on numerous occasions.
I believe that the prosecutor is instead targeting § 30.10 (3)(b)
(b) A prosecution for any offense involving misconduct in public
office by a public servant including, without limitation, an offense
defined in article four hundred ninety-six of the penal law, may be
commenced against a public servant, or any other person acting in
concert with such public servant at any time during such public
servant's service in such office or within five years after the
termination of such service; provided however, that in no event shall
the period of limitation be extended by more than five years beyond the
period otherwise applicable under subdivision two of this section.
The prosecutor was careful to select for an offense date one that occurred (barely) within Trump's term of office.
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Just the opposite here. He was forthright, honest and he and his entire family have been wronged.
I fear for President Trump but most of all I fear for our country.
With China and Russia now together, we will no longer be the Super Power nor will our currency be dominant.
America .... what will the world do without her?
Total chaos anyone? Russia and China will take us over. Anyone truly feel that's impossible?
Let's Go Brandon!!!
Russia isn't taking over anything. They produce little other than natural resources. Their GDP is around 3% of the west's. They are dying.
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@Kamaji
I don't believe that argument is going to fly. Section 4 is for subjects evading prosecution by making themselves unavailable to prosecutors which is something Trump has never done. There is no action that Trump has taken that can be construed as avoidance of trial commencement. Trump not only maintained New York residency for almost three years after the alleged offense took place, but he also maintained property and businesses there, revisiting the State on numerous occasions.
I believe that the prosecutor is instead targeting § 30.10 (3)(b)
The prosecutor was careful to select for an offense date one that occurred (barely) within Trump's term of office.
No, actually, it isn’t. Read the case law, which is very clear that the motive for the absence is irrelevant.
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Mark Levin: "We the American people need to stand behind this guy. There's not another Republican that I can think of who can fight back and fight back this way...I like others, I really do...But at this time, at this moment...He's the guy." - @marklevinshow. (Video)
https://mobile.twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1643457005632233474
Full Levin segment: (Video)
https://rumble.com/embed/v2doknq/?pub=4
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Mark Levin: :We the American people need to stand behind this guy. There's not another Republican that I can think of who can fight back and fight back this way...I like others, I really do...But at this time, at this moment...He's the guy." - @marklevinshow. (Video)
Hell with that. I used to have a lot more respect for Levin, until he felt he was the annointed one to tell us how to vote and support this non-conservative.
RIV.... Show me some proof that Trump will start embracing some fiscal responsibility and you can change my mind. Spouting out ridiculous Freedom Cities and Jetson Cars just shows he is going in the opposite direction. AND out liberal-ing the liberal Biden.
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RIV.... Show me some proof that Trump will start embracing some fiscal responsibility and you can change my mind.
I luv ya @catfish1957 ... and ask in friendship that you leave me the hell out of this specious, nonsensical argument. I have made both my
opinions and the reasons for them as clear as I can.
It's enough.
Thanks.
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I luv ya @catfish1957 ... and ask in friendship that you leave me the hell out of this specious, nonsensical argument. I have made both my
opinions and the reasons for them as clear as I can.
It's enough.
Thanks.
Fair enough. :beer: Sometimes we just have agree to disagree. And in friendship, I will always consider you my partner in documenting the '20 steal that night.
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I suppose Levin has the same right as any of the rest of us to convince people to support his preferred candidate.
But I do think the logic of "he's been indicted by a leftist Democrat so we must all support him for the nomination" is just a dumb argument. It's basically letting the Democrats choose our nominee.
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Fair enough. :beer: Sometimes we just have agree to disagree. And in friendship, I will always consider you my partner in documenting the '20 steal that night.
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But I do think the logic of "he's been indicted by a leftist Democrat so we must all support him for the nomination" is just a dumb argument.
Except that's not his argument.
(Short) Video:
https://mobile.twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1643457005632233474
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I suppose Levin has the same right as any of the rest of us to convince people to support his preferred candidate.
But I do think the logic of "he's been indicted by a leftist Democrat so we must all support him for the nomination" is just a dumb argument. It's basically letting the Democrats choose our nominee.
@Maj. Bill Martin
Like it or not,it is also the truth.
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@Maj. Bill Martin
Like it or not,it is also the truth.
It's an opinion, not a fact, so it isn't either true or false. Either way, it doesn't persuade me personally, and I won't vote for Trump under any circumstances.
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Except that's not his argument.
(Short) Video:
https://mobile.twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1643457005632233474
. Sure it is.
Levin also is making the same mistake as do so many others - they confuse intent and rhetoric with effectiveness. They like the message Trump sends, so they think he should be supported. The problem is that he doesn't understand how the government actually works, is too easily fooled/baited by the left, and is terrible at selecting key subordinates. All the right sentiments in the world are worthless if you lack the ability to implement them properly.
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. Sure it is.
Levin makes the same mistake as do so many others - they confuse intent and rhetoric with effectiveness. They like the message Trump sends, so they think he should be supported. The problem is that he doesn't understand how the government actually works...
Bullshit.
American voters remember the four years of our strength on the world stage, peace, prosperity, energy independence, borders under control and a spine of steel ----- courtesy of Donald J. Trump.
The problem for you is: We want him back.
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Bullshit.
American voters remember the four years of our strength on the world stage, peace, prosperity, energy independence, borders under control and a spine of steel ----- courtesy of Donald J. Trump.
Trump did some good things, no question. But his flaws also meant that he failed badly at other things that were critical, and at which he should have been able to succeed if he wasn't such a...Trump.
The problem for you is: We want him back.
Fair enough. I don't want him to be the GOP nominee, so obviously I'd prefer it if others didn't. So you could say that's a "problem" for me. But the problem for you is that he won't be elected/re-elected no matter how badly you want that to happen.
Feel free to bookmark this and taunt me with it if I'm wrong.
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But the problem for you is that he won't be elected/re-elected no matter how badly you want that to happen.
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Trump wins one poll
Democrats are winning elections
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Trump did some good things, no question. But his flaws also meant that he failed badly at other things that were critical, and at which he should have been able to succeed if he wasn't such a...Trump.
Fair enough. I don't want him to be the GOP nominee, so obviously I'd prefer it if others didn't. So you could say that's a "problem" for me. But the problem for you is that he won't be elected/re-elected no matter how badly you want that to happen.
Feel free to bookmark this and taunt me with it if I'm wrong.
The MAGA belief is things will get so bad that the voters will pull the lever for Trump no matter what. It’s possible but I wouldn’t want to stake another election on that.
I didn’t think the term MAGA Republican would matter in 2022 because of voter dissatisfaction with Biden but I was wrong. And it’s still working
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Trump wins one poll
Democrats are winning elections
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The MAGA belief is things will get so bad that the voters will pull the lever for Trump no matter what. It’s possible but I wouldn’t want to stake another election on that.
To me, that logic is dependent upon Biden being the nominee, which I still believe is unlikely in the end. They'll run someone younger, and age will be an issue.
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@Maj. Bill Martin
Like it or not,it is also the truth.
LOL!
No, it is not.
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MAGA
My Ass Got Arrested.
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MAGA
My Ass Got Arrested.
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MAGA
My Ass Got Arrested.
lol...and quoting a former briefer.... "Top Notch"
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To me, that logic is dependent upon Biden being the nominee, which I still believe is unlikely in the end. They'll run someone younger, and age will be an issue.
RFK Jr. just put his hat in the ring....much younger. Whether or not the Kennedy name these days will carry him is unlikely.
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RFK Jr. just put his hat in the ring....much younger. Whether or not the Kennedy name these days will carry him is unlikely.
There's a lot more optics in this day of poltics over substance. I can see his voice alone grating dim primary voters.
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Garrett Gentry
@GarrettVentry
.@Reuters: "Donald Trump remains the Republican party favorite for the 2024 presidential primary despite a criminal indictment. Ron DeSantis' support has weakened since our last poll.”
Trump: 48
Desantis: 19
2:29 PM · Apr 5, 2023
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Garrett Gentry
@GarrettVentry
.@Reuters: "Donald Trump remains the Republican party favorite for the 2024 presidential primary despite a criminal indictment. Ron DeSantis' support has weakened since our last poll.”
Trump: 48
Desantis: 19
2:29 PM · Apr 5, 2023
Agree. Unless something drastically happens in the dynamics of this race. It's over.
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MAGA
My Ass Got Arrested.
:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Agree. Unless something drastically happens in the dynamics of this race. It's over.
Trump will never be acquitted, I'd say that's pretty drastic.
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Trump will never be acquitted, I'd say that's pretty drastic.
But drastic enough for him to lose the primaries? This witch hunt has had the opposite effect. $10M in fund raising, and he's rocketing in the polls.. In fact Raz polling yesterday had him beating Pedo Joe by 7 percentage points.
The actual martyr gig is working at least now.
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But drastic enough for him to lose the primaries? This witch hunt has had the opposite effect. $10M in fund raising, and he's rocketing in the polls.. In fact Raz polling yesterday had him beating Pedo Joe by 7 percentage points.
The actual martyr gig is working at least now.
Will he still be allowed to run if found guilty? If he has to do time, I don't see that happening. This indictment is all about preventing him from running.
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Will he still be allowed to run if found guilty? If he has to do time, I don't see that happening. This indictment is all about preventing him from running.
I researched that and found that even if he is convicted, it does not preclude him from gaining the nomination or even become POTUS.
What the slimey dims are banking on, is that a conviction will sway enough swing voters not to vote for him.
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I researched that and found that even if he is convicted, it does not preclude him from gaining the nomination or even become POTUS.
What the slimey dims are banking on, is that a conviction will sway enough swing voters not to vote for him.
Exactly.
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Will he still be allowed to run if found guilty? If he has to do time, I don't see that happening. This indictment is all about preventing him from running.
@libertybele
I disagree. It is about distracting him as well as pissing him off in an effort to get him to blow his top so he loses support.
I don't think it is going to cost him ANY support,but it will distract him at a time when he needs to focus on his campaign.
BTW,can the NYC court or prosecutor be sued for damages for filing bogus charges?
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@libertybele
I disagree. It is about distracting him as well as pissing him off in an effort to get him to blow his top so he loses support.
I don't think it is going to cost him ANY support,but it will distract him at a time when he needs to focus on his campaign.
BTW,can the NYC court or prosecutor be sued for damages for filing bogus charges?
IMHO the NYC court can do whatever they want -- they are liberal and corrupt so I'm not sure that there's any possibility of them being sued.
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@libertybele
BTW,can the NYC court or prosecutor be sued for damages for filing bogus charges?
It's possible, but is it likely given the location?
Look at what happened to Nifong in the Duke LaCrosse case.
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@libertybele
I disagree. It is about distracting him as well as pissing him off in an effort to get him to blow his top so he loses support.
I don't think it is going to cost him ANY support,but it will distract him at a time when he needs to focus on his campaign.
BTW,can the NYC court or prosecutor be sued for damages for filing bogus charges?
For the last question: generally no.
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IMHO the NYC court can do whatever they want -- they are liberal and corrupt so I'm not sure that there's any possibility of them being sued.
Yeah. But appeal with send it to the state courts, where NYC ain't in control.
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Yeah. But appeal with send it to the state courts, where NYC ain't in control.
New York Appellate courts generally are pretty good.
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Agree. Unless something drastically happens in the dynamics of this race. It's over.
I think that may be a bit of "prisoner of the moment". This case is going to the back burner for the next 8 or so months, during which there will be plenty of opportunities for Trump to remind GOP primary voters why so many of them were looking for alternatives.
I'd love for him to lose, but at a minimum, I want someone to make a serious enough challenge that the idea of the GOP = Trump takes a major hit.
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I think that may be a bit of "prisoner of the moment". This case is going to the back burner for the next 8 or so months, during which there will be plenty of opportunities for Trump to remind GOP primary voters why so many of them were looking for alternatives.
I'd love for him to lose, but at a minimum, I want someone to make a serious enough challenge that the idea of the GOP = Trump takes a major hit.
You state facts! We cannot be a Cult of Personality, and that would be worse than the Democrats.
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We cannot be a Cult of Personality, and that would be worse than the Democrats.
I know I'm not alone in saying this, but the whole "Cult of Personality" aspect of Trump, which is a very real thing in the same way it was with Obama, just really turns me off. Although even Obama had enough social awareness to slip in some self deprecation once in a while to give the facade of humility.
But our first President - and thank the Lord for blessing us with him - had an inmate sense that the country was much more than just him. He possessed true humility which is an incredible important quality given the power of political leaders in the modern world.
I have zero freaking doubt that Trump would gladly pop on a crown if one were offered.
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I know I'm not alone in saying this, but the whole "Cult of Personality" aspect of Trump, which is a very real thing in the same way it was with Obama, just really turns me off. Although even Obama had enough social awareness to slip in some self deprecation once in a while to give the facade of humility.
But our first President - and thank the Lord for blessing us with him - had an inmate sense that the country was much more than just him. He possessed true humility which is an incredible important quality given the power of political leaders in the modern world.
I have zero freaking doubt that Trump would gladly pop on a crown if one were offered.
@Maj. Bill Martin
He can't,so why worry about it when there are real problems for everyone to worry about,including Trump,who KNOWS that as his age this is his last opportunity to get prominent positive mention in the history books.
Otherwise,he just goes down as a rich guy that was President for one term.
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@Maj. Bill Martin
He can't,so why worry about it when there are real problems for everyone to worry about,including Trump,who KNOWS that as his age this is his last opportunity to get prominent positive mention in the history books.
But doesn't that really applies to everyone running for a second term, including Biden? They're all worried about their legacy at that point because they know they can't run again, and they know they'll never have another opportunity to be impactful historically. Obama's proud that he got ObamaCare through, but I'm not happy about that. So the real question isn't whether they want to be successful, but rather whether Trump's (or Biden's) idea of being successful historically is the same as mine. And I don't feel that way about either Biden or Trump. That's not just on policy with respect to Trump, because I also believe that he sees one of the ways to be viewed positively is to destroy anyone who might compete against him for that title. He thinks he'll end up looking good if he destroys other Republicans who might snag some positive attention.
I see one of the hallmarks of great leaders is whether they leave behind people who will do good work after them. But I see Trump affirmatively tearing down other Republicans I think are good, and promoting others than I think are not good. DeSantis bad/MTG good is just not a direction I think is a good one, but that's where he'd take us. And I just can't sign off on that.
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But doesn't that really applies to everyone running for a second term, including Biden?
@Maj. Bill Martin
No. I don't think Biden knows he is running. I think he believes he is just doing his favorite thing,attending fund raisers.
He is just doing what he has done his entire life,trying to scam money out of people by telling them what they want to hear,and denying he ever said anything they don't want to hear.
If he is breathing,he is lying. It is all he has ever done,and I have no doubt he will die with a lie on his lips.
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I know I'm not alone in saying this, but the whole "Cult of Personality" aspect of Trump, which is a very real thing in the same way it was with Obama, just really turns me off. Although even Obama had enough social awareness to slip in some self deprecation once in a while to give the facade of humility.
But our first President - and thank the Lord for blessing us with him - had an inmate sense that the country was much more than just him. He possessed true humility which is an incredible important quality given the power of political leaders in the modern world.
I have zero freaking doubt that Trump would gladly pop on a crown if one were offered.
There is a huge cult of personality when it comes to Donald Trump. You see it in their support of his MAGA cities despite their instinct that idea is ridiculous. But he also feeds it. He’s out there claiming that Dan Kelly, in our Wisconsin Supreme Court race, lost because he didn’t seek his endorsement. Yet when he endorsed him in 2020, Kelly lost by something like 10 points. Why would you want someone to endorse you who cost you the election the first time?
Trump doesn’t realize or believe that he is an election loser. Neither do his MAGA’s.
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There is a huge cult of personality when it comes to Donald Trump. You see it in their support of his MAGA cities despite their instinct that idea is ridiculous. But he also feeds it. He’s out there claiming that Dan Kelly, in our Wisconsin Supreme Court race, lost because he didn’t seek his endorsement. Yet when he endorsed him in 2020, Kelly lost by something like 10 points. Why would you want someone to endorse you who cost you the election the first time?
Trump doesn’t realize or believe that he is an election loser. Neither do his MAGA’s.
The TRumpanzee live in that alternate reality of their own making...the one that allows them to believe that thier personalized DONNY IDOLS are the real thing.
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Can someone tell me how to put someone on the "ignore list"
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But doesn't that really applies to everyone running for a second term, including Biden? They're all worried about their legacy at that point because they know they can't run again, and they know they'll never have another opportunity to be impactful historically. Obama's proud that he got ObamaCare through, but I'm not happy about that. So the real question isn't whether they want to be successful, but rather whether Trump's (or Biden's) idea of being successful historically is the same as mine. And I don't feel that way about either Biden or Trump. That's not just on policy with respect to Trump, because I also believe that he sees one of the ways to be viewed positively is to destroy anyone who might compete against him for that title. He thinks he'll end up looking good if he destroys other Republicans who might snag some positive attention.
I see one of the hallmarks of great leaders is whether they leave behind people who will do good work after them. But I see Trump affirmatively tearing down other Republicans I think are good, and promoting others than I think are not good. DeSantis bad/MTG good is just not a direction I think is a good one, but that's where he'd take us. And I just can't sign off on that.
See that's the problem, I know anyone who runs for President has a major ego but running so as to have a chance at a place in history is the weakest reason on Earth for anyone to run on. There are countless people who through invention, charity or good works have secured a place in history without running for President. Running for President and winning is just a bigger ego stroke. Before I get mugged, I'm not saying that's Trumps sole reason or any reason of his at all because we can't see the truth in anyone's head, I am commenting the reason posited by another.
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Can someone tell me how to put someone on the "ignore list"
@sneakypete
Waste of time, IMO!
Just bite your lip and as Dionne Warwick might say..."Scroll on by!" :laugh:
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Can someone tell me how to put someone on the "ignore list"
@sneakypete
At the top of the page there are a series of links. Punch the one that says "profile" then click on "summary". On the left side of the page is a list. Scroll down to "Buddies/Igrore list and punch that.
Select "edit ignore list".
A box will appear that will allow you to add whomever you like to your ignore list.
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Can someone tell me how to put someone on the "ignore list"
@sneakypete
1. Click the "Profile" button at the top of every page.
2. Hover over the "Modify Profile" button A list of options will pop up.
3. Hover over "Buddies/Ignore List" and click "Edit Ignore List."
4. Type the desired screen name.
5. Click "Add."'
Done!
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See that's the problem, I know anyone who runs for President has a major ego but running so as to have a chance at a place in history is the weakest reason on Earth for anyone to run on. There are countless people who through invention, charity or good works have secured a place in history without running for President. Running for President and winning is just a bigger ego stroke. Before I get mugged, I'm not saying that's Trumps sole reason or any reason of his at all because we can't see the truth in anyone's head, I am commenting the reason posited by another.
@GtHawk
When a storm destroys your roof and you need a new roof,what do you care about,the personality of the roofer,or your roof not leaking the next time it rains?
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@sneakypete
At the top of the page there are a series of links. Punch the one that says "profile" then click on "summary". On the left side of the page is a list. Scroll down to "Buddies/Igrore list and punch that.
Select "edit ignore list".
A box will appear that will allow you to add whomever you like to your ignore list.
@Bigun
Thank you!
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@sneakypete
1. Click the "Profile" button at the top of every page.
2. Hover over the "Modify Profile" button A list of options will pop up.
3. Hover over "Buddies/Ignore List" and click "Edit Ignore List."
4. Type the desired screen name.
5. Click "Add."'
Done!
@Cyber Liberty
Thank you!
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@GtHawk
When a storm destroys your roof and you need a new roof,what do you care about,the personality of the roofer,or your roof not leaking the next time it rains?
I would want to make sure that the contractor I hired is somebody that is honest and people trust with good references
And, I have had people repair my roof and I don’t stiff them like guess who? has a history of doing wink777
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@GtHawk
When a storm destroys your roof and you need a new roof,what do you care about,the personality of the roofer,or your roof not leaking the next time it rains?
BOTH. Or rather, the integrity of the roofer and a good job done.
BOTH are equally important.
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BOTH. Or rather, the integrity of the roofer and a good job done.
BOTH are equally important.
@LMAO @roamer_1
Have you ever known someone who was dishonest that did an honest job?
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@LMAO @roamer_1
Have you ever known someone who was dishonest that did an honest job?
No
I would never take my car to a mechanic that had a history of dishonesty
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@LMAO @roamer_1
Have you ever known someone who was dishonest that did an honest job?
@sneakypete
In a word, no. Honor among thieves only goes so far... and it turns out, unsurprisingly, that ain't far at all.
There is a reason why Conservatives count integrity... Character... very highly. I want above ALL, an honest man.
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No
I would never take my car to a mechanic that had a history of dishonesty
That's right. Out here in the west a handshake is worth way more than a contract.
A man, any man, is only as good as his word. And any man that tries to keep his word knows how very hard it is to do. And in that it is the ultimate measure of the man... To the point that out here, where your word is still often a matter of life and death, it is the only measurement that counts.
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@GtHawk
When a storm destroys your roof and you need a new roof,what do you care about,the personality of the roofer,or your roof not leaking the next time it rains?
Well, just talking about the hypothetical roofer now, if the person I am interviewing to hire comes across with the personality that tells me to be wary I will look for someone whose personality rings trustworthy with me. That's just me, and your hypothetical roofer. Also if I hired that hypothetical roofer once and found he had overly embellished his work I would be hesitant to rehire him....that hypothetical roofer we are talking about.
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@sneakypete
In a word, no. Honor among thieves only goes so far... and it turns out, unsurprisingly, that ain't far at all.
There is a reason why Conservatives count integrity... Character... very highly. I want above ALL, an honest man.
I aksed a good long time friend if the donny were a moral man....he said well no....
fould bitter contemptuous contemptable..and malignant yes MORAL never,,,,,trump •••
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end of conversation...
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That's right. Out here in the west a handshake is worth way more than a contract.
A man, any man, is only as good as his word. And any man that tries to keep his word knows how very hard it is to do. And in that it is the ultimate measure of the man... To the point that out here, where your word is still often a matter of life and death, it is the only measurement that counts.
Since the thread has already been hijacked...
Was thinking hard...trying to empathize or somewhat imagine the experience of the personalities of the typical Pioneer Settler who owned nothing but the wagon, its contents and the animal(s) pulling it.
They never experienced an Industrial Revolution, the railroads were merely a gleam in some dreamer's eye.
They never experience indoor plumbing, their lives were similar to "Alaska Survivor" sans the typical winters.
Without a doubt they would survive an EMP attack. Average American today...not so much.
Tangent finished here...sorry! :laugh:
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I aksed a good long time friend if the donny were a moral man....he said well no....
fould bitter contemptuous contemptable..and malignant yes MORAL never,,,,,trump •••
end of conversation...
In the end, that's right. Character first.
If he can't be trusted, he can't be trusted. :shrug:
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Since the thread has already been hijacked...
Was thinking hard...trying to empathize or somewhat imagine the experience of the personalities of the typical Pioneer Settler who owned nothing but the wagon, its contents and the animal(s) pulling it.
They never experienced an Industrial Revolution, the railroads were merely a gleam in some dreamer's eye.
They never experience indoor plumbing, their lives were similar to "Alaska Survivor" sans the typical winters.
Without a doubt they would survive an EMP attack. Average American today...not so much.
Tangent finished here...sorry! :laugh:
It is still a whole lot that way @DCPatriot . That's why the west still remains distinctly libertarian - That rugged individualism is very much alive and well... Our dependencies are toward conveniences... like anywhere, but here, they are still merely conveniences. The further out from town you go, the less reliable they are... So they are not relied upon, and the old ways are still the ways that always work.
I have often been where the only conveniences were kerosene and propane. and when the propane runs out, you just go back to cooking on the wood stove, and clean out the refrigerator and stuff it all back in the root cellar.
Maybe that's why western conservatives think so differently than others. The real world ain't all that far off...
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Since the thread has already been hijacked...
Was thinking hard...trying to empathize or somewhat imagine the experience of the personalities of the typical Pioneer Settler who owned nothing but the wagon, its contents and the animal(s) pulling it.
They never experienced an Industrial Revolution, the railroads were merely a gleam in some dreamer's eye.
They never experience indoor plumbing, their lives were similar to "Alaska Survivor" sans the typical winters.
Without a doubt they would survive an EMP attack. Average American today...not so much.
Tangent finished here...sorry! :laugh:
That’s all true, but I do like my automobile, my outboard motor, my indoor heating and air conditioning, and flush toilets even if it puts me at a risk for EMP attack
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That’s all true, but I do like my automobile, my outboard motor, my indoor heating and air conditioning, and flush toilets even if it puts me at a risk for EMP attack
Me too... but I don't NEED them.
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I researched that and found that even if he is convicted, it does not preclude him from gaining the nomination or even become POTUS.
What the slimey dims are banking on, is that a conviction will sway enough swing voters not to vote for him.
The sentencing could also put a gag order on him, preventing him from using social media during his jail time.
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I aksed a good long time friend if the donny were a moral man....he said well no....
Trump is a compassionate man. The current White House occupant is completely devoid of compassion.
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oh my word
my most sincere condolances(https://i.ibb.co/KzKh0yL/former-prez.jpg)