The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: endicom on March 25, 2017, 01:02:16 am
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PJ Media
Michael Walsh
Mar. 24, 2017
Excerpt:
And yet Paul Ryan walked straight into the Barzini trap that president Trump set for him. By insisting that the voters desired "Repeal and Replace" when in fact all anybody wanted was "Repeal, full stop," Ryan's inner wonk superseded his duties as the speaker of the House to ensure the votes were there for the "Replace" part of the equation. That they weren't should be the end of his speakership.
Apparently, Ryan had been listening to the die-hard never-Trumpers too much, and actually thought he could skate on his opposition to the insurgent outsider, whose entire campaign was based on his contempt for the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party and apparatchiks like Ryan. Once the bright shiny penny of young GOP congressmen, Ryan blotted his copybook badly in his disappointing vice-presidential debate performance against a gibbering Joe Biden. He then played coy after House conservatives finally managed to sack former speaker John Boehner, but eventually accepted the proffered crown. During the election, he fought Trump every step of the way and lied about it.
More... https://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2017/03/24/paul-ryan-takes-the-barzini-meeting/
"Tell Mike it was only business. I always liked him."
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PJ Media
Michael Walsh
Mar. 24, 2017
Excerpt:
And yet Paul Ryan walked straight into the Barzini trap that president Trump set for him. By insisting that the voters desired "Repeal and Replace" when in fact all anybody wanted was "Repeal, full stop," Ryan's inner wonk superseded his duties as the speaker of the House to ensure the votes were there for the "Replace" part of the equation. That they weren't should be the end of his speakership.
Apparently, Ryan had been listening to the die-hard never-Trumpers too much, and actually thought he could skate on his opposition to the insurgent outsider, whose entire campaign was based on his contempt for the Permanent Bipartisan Fusion Party and apparatchiks like Ryan. Once the bright shiny penny of young GOP congressmen, Ryan blotted his copybook badly in his disappointing vice-presidential debate performance against a gibbering Joe Biden. He then played coy after House conservatives finally managed to sack former speaker John Boehner, but eventually accepted the proffered crown. During the election, he fought Trump every step of the way and lied about it.
More... https://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2017/03/24/paul-ryan-takes-the-barzini-meeting/
"Tell Mike it was only business. I always liked him."
I blame Ryan. Trump is new to the show, but Ryan has been present in GOP leadership ever since Obamacare came about. Someone with competence over 7 long years of saying we would repeal it would have devised the best strategy to do so with support.
The fact that Ryan, with a strengthened GOP majority, on his initial leadership test would fail so miserably, really weakens the GOP considerably.
There are hidden ways they are weakened as well. For example, the last time the GOP had such a solid majority, it became convincing for a number of Democrats to switch parties as they 'saw the handwriting on the wall'.
That won't happen now, as what Dem is his right mind would go get behind the Von Ryan disaster?
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Trump campaigned on forced coverage of preexisting conditions - a poison pill to anything called "insurance" a logical fallacy - and for those "25%" who couldn't afford for it "the government is going to pay for it".
Ryan did exactly what Trump asked him to do.
Never mind that the federal government has no business doing any of this and it falls within the authority of the states.
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Trump campaigned on forced coverage of preexisting conditions - a poison pill to anything called "insurance" a logical fallacy - and for those "25%" who couldn't afford for it "the government is going to pay for it".
Ryan did exactly what Trump asked him to do.
Never mind that the federal government has no business doing any of this and it falls within the authority of the states.
AMEN. :amen:
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I blame Ryan. Trump is new to the show, but Ryan has been present in GOP leadership ever since Obamacare came about. Someone with competence over 7 long years of saying we would repeal it would have devised the best strategy to do so with support.
The fact that Ryan, with a strengthened GOP majority, on his initial leadership test would fail so miserably, really weakens the GOP considerably.
There are hidden ways they are weakened as well. For example, the last time the GOP had such a solid majority, it became convincing for a number of Democrats to switch parties as they 'saw the handwriting on the wall'.
That won't happen now, as what Dem is his right mind would go get behind the Von Ryan disaster?
I don't know that blame should fall all on Ryan but it's clear that he didn't have his ducks in a row. How could he have not known of the divisions in his own party?
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Never mind that the federal government has no business doing any of this and it falls within the authority of the states.
The problem there is that we can't proceed from some world that should be. Our starting point is from the world that is.
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The problem there is that we can't proceed from some world that should be. Our starting point is from the world that is.
You can't take two steps left and occasionally one step right and recover from going left. Either you overcome the leftward path or you don't.
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Ryan does deserve some of the blame here but not all.
This was a crapfest from the get-go and all week the President has been saying such things as what a "Beautiful Picture" it was, so maybe Trump didn't care, didn't know or just plain became unattached, any of the three make more sense than decapitating the Speaker right now for being the idiot we all knew him to be.
Disclaimer: Some of the replacements going around sure make me happy, if true (which I doubt).
Some alternative names floated: Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan, Kevin McCarthy, Darrell Issa, Marsha Blackburn
https://www.axios.com/wh-and-gop-lawmakers-talking-about-replacing-paul-ryan-2328550603.html (https://www.axios.com/wh-and-gop-lawmakers-talking-about-replacing-paul-ryan-2328550603.html)
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I blame Ryan. Trump is new to the show, but Ryan has been present in GOP leadership ever since Obamacare came about. Someone with competence over 7 long years of saying we would repeal it would have devised the best strategy to do so with support.
The fact that Ryan, with a strengthened GOP majority, on his initial leadership test would fail so miserably, really weakens the GOP considerably.
There are hidden ways they are weakened as well. For example, the last time the GOP had such a solid majority, it became convincing for a number of Democrats to switch parties as they 'saw the handwriting on the wall'.
That won't happen now, as what Dem is his right mind would go get behind the Von Ryan disaster?
IMHO, one thing is absolutely certain. Nothing has changed other than there's a new sheriff in town, other than that nothing has changed. We've had the majority in both Houses for the past 2 election cycles. We have the same RINO leadership in both the House and Senate, so why would anyone expect things to be any different? Let's see ... we got rid of Boehner but he was replaced by Ryan; when you replace a RINO with a RINO you still get a RINO outcome. Same thing in the Senate; the Turtle is still in place; a RINO is a RINO and the outcome will be the same.
Ryan gave a great speech after the defeat of Hillary; however as usual it was absolutely nothing more than hot air.
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IMHO, one thing is absolutely certain. Nothing has changed other than there's a new sheriff in town, other than that nothing has changed. We've had the majority in both Houses for the past 2 election cycles. We have the same RINO leadership in both the House and Senate, so why would anyone expect things to be any different? Let's see ... we got rid of Boehner but he was replaced by Ryan; when you replace a RINO with a RINO you still get a RINO outcome. Same thing in the Senate; the Turtle is still in place; a RINO is a RINO and the outcome will be the same.
Ryan gave a great speech after the defeat of Hillary; however as usual it was absolutely nothing more than hot air.
:beer:
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IMHO, one thing is absolutely certain. Nothing has changed other than there's a new sheriff in town, other than that nothing has changed. We've had the majority in both Houses for the past 2 election cycles. We have the same RINO leadership in both the House and Senate, so why would anyone expect things to be any different? Let's see ... we got rid of Boehner but he was replaced by Ryan; when you replace a RINO with a RINO you still get a RINO outcome. Same thing in the Senate; the Turtle is still in place; a RINO is a RINO and the outcome will be the same.
Ryan gave a great speech after the defeat of Hillary; however as usual it was absolutely nothing more than hot air.
QFT! :patriot:
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Ryan does deserve some of the blame here but not all.
This was a crapfest from the get-go and all week the President has been saying such things as what a "Beautiful Picture" it was, so maybe Trump didn't care, didn't know or just plain became unattached, any of the three make more sense than decapitating the Speaker right now for being the idiot we all knew him to be.
Disclaimer: Some of the replacements going around sure make me happy, if true (which I doubt).https://www.axios.com/wh-and-gop-lawmakers-talking-about-replacing-paul-ryan-2328550603.html (https://www.axios.com/wh-and-gop-lawmakers-talking-about-replacing-paul-ryan-2328550603.html)
Agreed, all though I tend to feel Trump really didn't have a clue in all this, nor do I think he knows what it takes to actually get a bill passed. He depended on Ryan to get the job done and he failed. Trump should have never praised this bill until he was certain it would pass; that's entirely his mistake. Obviously Trump is listening to the wrong people; and Ryan is one of those people.
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PJ Media
Michael Walsh
Mar. 24, 2017
Excerpt:
And yet Paul Ryan walked straight into the Barzini trap that president Trump set for him. By insisting that the voters desired "Repeal and Replace" when in fact all anybody wanted was "Repeal, full stop....
Somebody's been living in a bubble....