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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: rangerrebew on January 24, 2020, 02:38:47 pm
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Rudy Finally DOES IT – Joe Biden is FINISHED!
(Gateway Pundit) – President Trump’s personal attorney and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani dropped a bomb this morning warning that he is going to start revealing documents related to the Biden Family’s corrupt and criminal dealings in the Ukraine and elsewhere around the world.
Rudy tweeted:
Everything I tried to tell the press last March is now coming out, and more. I will now start to reveal the evidence directly to you, the People. The Biden Family Enterprise made millions by selling public office. Then when Joe was Obama’s Point Man, they ALL made millions.
https://freedomnewsusa.com/rudy-finally-does-it-joe-biden-is-finished/
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Here's the actual Gateway Pundit article, https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/here-we-go-happening-tomorrow-rudy-to-begin-revealing-top-level-democrats-making-millions-of-dollars-selling-their-public-office/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/here-we-go-happening-tomorrow-rudy-to-begin-revealing-top-level-democrats-making-millions-of-dollars-selling-their-public-office/)
And as can be seen, the article title is not clickbait:
HERE WE GO… Happening Tomorrow! Rudy to Begin Revealing Top Level Democrats Making Millions of Dollars Selling Their Public Office
Later Thursday evening, Rudy revealed that he’s going to start hitting the swamp tomorrow and unleash on top level Democrats who sold their public office for millions of dollars!
Rudy also said Democrat officials conspired with foreign officials to “destroy†the Trump candidacy!
“Starting tomorrow we will begin cracking through the Swamp media’s cover-up of TOP level Democrats selling their public office, resulting in multi-millions, in Ukraine and the conspired attempt with foreign officials to “destroy†the Trump candidacy,†Rudy said in a tweet.
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I watch him a little this morning.... IF TRUE, Biden is done but he won't be alone.
I sure hope Rudi has all his ducks in a row on this or he could end up breaking rocks...
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I watched Rudy this morning on FOX. He spoke uninterrupted (sometimes against the trio's will).
Bottom line...he's doing a Friday nite news-dump and then divulging simultaneously with the President's lawyers' turn.
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I watch him a little this morning.... IF TRUE, Biden is done but he won't be alone.
I sure hope Rudi has all his ducks in a row on this or he could end up breaking rocks...
Well, Rudy was a renown prosecutor.
Fingers crossed.
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Rudy also said Democrat officials conspired with foreign officials to “destroy†the Trump candidacy!
So typical. Democrats guilty of the exact thing they falsely accuse Republicans of doing.
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So typical. Democrats guilty of the exact thing they falsely accuse Republicans of doing.
Yep.
Once Biden went out on the campaign trail and admitted manipulating the Ukrainians to do his will, it was imperative the the Democrats accuse Trump of doing it before anyone looked at Biden.
It didn't work, but it is right out of their playbook.
Accuse the accuser.
The Clintons were pretty good at, but it was before the internet and social media were huge.
I don't know if they would get away with it now.
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I wouldn't count on the DEMS being made to accept any responsibility --- they will deflect and deny and get away with this too without any repercussions just like they always do.
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Why is it that all BOMBSHELLs from the Republicans are always tomorrow? Or later? Or next week? or next month?
Why not just drop the information immediately without telling Clinton or Biden what you are 'planning' to do?
Just do it!
I have heard this same story from Breitbart to Barr, and it never seems to pan out.
Indictments Coming Soon!!! yea right
I hope Rudy has the goods, but I've been fooled so many times before I'm not holding my breath.
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Why is it that all BOMBSHELLs from the Republicans are always tomorrow? Or later? Or next week? or next month?
Why not just drop the information immediately without telling Clinton or Biden what you are 'planning' to do?
Just do it!
I have heard this same story from Breitbart to Barr, and it never seems to pan out.
Indictments Coming Soon!!! yea right
I hope Rudy has the goods, but I've been fooled so many times before I'm not holding my breath.
@240B
Frustrating isn't it.... The difference this time, we have a fighter rather than an appeaser... here's hoping
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I wouldn't count on the DEMS being made to accept any responsibility --- they will deflect and deny and get away with this too without any repercussions just like they always do.
I share your cynicism.
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I hope Rudy has a reliable food taster.
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I hope Rudy has a reliable food taster.
He implicated Hillary? ****drummer
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Rudy does it? Rudy didn't does it. He didn't do it at all! He just said he's going to do it. Sheesh! I wish people would get that straight
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Rudy does it? Rudy didn't does it. He didn't do it at all! He just said he's going to do it. Sheesh! I wish people would get that straight
Exactly.
RUDY FINALLY DROPS THE BOMB ON BIDEN!! Well...that is...I mean...uh...maybe he will drop the bomb?...uh...tomorrow?...or at some later date?...maybe...?
Just another clickbait headline from a no name website.
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Rudy does it? Rudy didn't does it. He didn't do it at all! He just said he's going to do it. Sheesh! I wish people would get that straight
Exactly. Nothing is as uninspiring as "Breaking", "Bombshell", "Game Changer"... Just do it and let the media/people hear it and deal with it.
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Exactly.
RUDY FINALLY DROPS THE BOMB ON BIDEN!! Well...that is...I mean...uh...maybe he will drop the bomb?...uh...tomorrow?...or at some later date?...maybe...?
Just another clickbait headline from a no name website.
Tense has left the building.
And yet another meaningless victory lap. *****rollingeyes*****
It is a caution.
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Rudy, I admire you, but if you've got the cards, lay 'em on the table.
Otherwise... SHUT UP.
And yes, folks, I'd say that right to his face.
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Exactly.
RUDY FINALLY DROPS THE BOMB ON BIDEN!! Well...that is...I mean...uh...maybe he will drop the bomb?...uh...tomorrow?...or at some later date?...maybe...?
Just another clickbait headline from a no name website.
newamerica says it all. The Trump America. Not the America of the past, but the new Trump worker party place. Probably connected to Q.
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Rudy, I admire you, but if you've got the cards, lay 'em on the table.
Otherwise... SHUT UP.
And yes, folks, I'd say that right to his face.
Rudy has Russian conspiracy theories.
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The problem is, even if Rudy delivers a huge bombshell, nothing will come of it. The globalists control this nation.
Trump is a fly in the ointment, who will go away in five years, worst case. They will wait that long.
Nothing will stop the thieving corrupt Democommies. Nothing. Trump was foolish enough to keep Obama appointees, and he is undermined with every step. I don't believe his stepson is doing him any favors either.
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Nothing will stop the thieving corrupt Democommies.
Yes, a Conservative majority congress can...
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Yes, a Conservative majority congress can...
We don't think big anymore. We think small. You are absolutely right, but the way we are going isn't going to get there.
I doubt that we will win the House or the Senate. Probably lose Senate seats. Thanks to Trump.
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We don't think big anymore. We think small. You are absolutely right, but the way we are going isn't going to get there.
I doubt that we will win the House or the Senate. Probably lose Senate seats. Thanks to Trump.
You're right too - but that is why I am here, preaching as I do. Hope does spring eternal. :seeya:
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Trump with his Social Security and Medicare statements have seriously injured the Republican effort for November, 2020. Perhaps he walks it back, but what he said was extremely damaging. They don't need to impeach him any longer, for any Dem will defeat him in November unless he makes this right.
How does he do that? Well, present to Congress legislation to INCREASE Social Security payments for those on Social Security. That would kill the notion he intends to harm those on Social Security. And I do not know what he could do for those on Medicare, perhaps make access to doctors in a faster timeframe.
This is one awsh*t that is NOT going away.
The Dems know they are in deep sh*t unless they can keep the eyes off Biden. He is just one of many Dems that are corrupt and filling their pockets with gold. Kerry and Pelosi are two more, and I assume it is rampant.
But again, since the globalists are the ones in control, do not hold your breath for anyone being brought to justice. Justice no longer exists in Washington.
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You're right too - but that is why I am here, preaching as I do. Hope does spring eternal. :seeya:
Thank you. I need to remember that. You know where my hope is :amen:
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Thank you. I need to remember that. You know where my hope is :amen:
Yes I do Chosen sister, and I always have. happy77 :beer:
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Yes I do Chosen sister, and I always have. happy77 :beer:
And I said it because I know where yours is also. :thumbsup:
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@Chosen Daughter @roamer_1
Thank you both!
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Thank you. I need to remember that. You know where my hope is :amen:
You have been very clear: You want Trump convicted and removed from Office, no matter what. You think Schiff is on the money, and you probably wish he was President because he meets all your requirements for good character and truthfulness.
You are very clear.
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You have been very clear: You want Trump convicted and removed from Office, no matter what. You think Schiff is on the money, and you probably wish he was President because he meets all your requirements for good character and truthfulness.
You are very clear.
Don’t you just hate it when Americans are forced to suffer a booming economy, expanding job opportunities and a bull market, brought about by the policies of such bad president?
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Don’t you just hate it when Americans are forced to suffer a booming economy, expanding job opportunities and a bull market, brought about by the policies of such bad president?
Don't interrupt the good vibrations.
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Why does tomorrow never seem to come in that alternate universe?
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Don’t you just hate it when Americans are forced to suffer a booming economy, expanding job opportunities and a bull market, brought about by the policies of such bad president?
I hate it when it piles a trillion plus dollars a year of debt on our future - which is growing dimmer by the day.
So how is it the "best economy" produces trillion dollar plus a year government deficits? Record deficits.
You realize those two things are not compatibile with each other. One of the two has to be false for the other to be true. And we know the debt is real and probably understated. What does that make the people who claim what can't be true as being true?
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Don't interrupt the good vibrations.
...and isn’t it funny that while the president’s lawyers are laying out a clear, concise and factual rebuttal to the managers’ desperately false claims of presidential wrongdoing, these folks are jumping at the latest hair-on-fire, media agitprop. Any port in a storm, eh?
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We don't think big anymore. We think small. You are absolutely right, but the way we are going isn't going to get there.
I doubt that we will win the House or the Senate. Probably lose Senate seats. Thanks to Trump.
Yeah. You think small.
I voted third party last election. I had my concerns about Trump. But he has proven to be something we haven't had in a long time. An American President.
So next election I'm not voting for "Trump".
I am voting for an AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
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Yeah. You think small.
I voted third party last election. I had my concerns about Trump. But he has proven to be something we haven't had in a long time. An American President.
So next election I'm not voting for "Trump".
I am voting for an AMERICAN PRESIDENT.
Racist! Go sit in the corner and think upon you sins, evil one. And don’t get back to me until you’ve dug up some dirt.
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I hate it when it piles a trillion plus dollars a year of debt on our future - which is growing dimmer by the day.
So how is it the "best economy" produces trillion dollar plus a year government deficits? Record deficits.
You realize those two things are not compatibile with each other. One of the two has to be false for the other to be true. And we know the debt is real and probably understated. What does that make the people who claim what can't be true as being true?
Democrats.
The deficit/spending by the government. Start by reducing the size of the government. How to do that, realistically, I don't know.
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Racist! Go sit in the corner and think upon you sins, evil one. And don’t get back to me until you’ve dug up some dirt.
Racist. HAHAHA. My "people" have been here for 300 years. That makes me a Native American. I'm just a bit anemic...Digging up some dirt is easy. But since I live in a teepee, sitting in a corner to do it is going to be nigh on impossible.
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Democrats.
The deficit/spending by the government. Start by reducing the size of the government. How to do that, realistically, I don't know.
At this point the only cure for the debt problem is killing the patient.
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At this point the only cure for the debt problem is killing the patient.
I know. I have been trying to lessen how much I post reminding people that I am a psychopathic, bloodthirsty barbarian with a need for Neutron bombs.
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I hate it when it piles a trillion plus dollars a year of debt on our future - which is growing dimmer by the day.
So how is it the "best economy" produces trillion dollar plus a year government deficits? Record deficits.
You realize those two things are not compatibile with each other. One of the two has to be false for the other to be true. And we know the debt is real and probably understated. What does that make the people who claim what can't be true as being true?
@DB
We used to have separate funding bills for each agencies and it was a little harder to hide junk, now with the yuge omnibus bills, you cannot find anything.
We need to go back to the old ways of allocating funds...
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@DB
We used to have separate funding bills for each agencies and it was a little harder to hide junk, now with the yuge omnibus bills, you cannot find anything.
We need to go back to the old ways of allocating funds...
Every single spending bill Trump signed he knew what was in it. And the response was no fight. Always as reported the President is expected to sign. Sign away our children's future to trillions in debt. With things like Planned Parenthood funding. Not a fight. He should have demanded changes to the bills to reduce funding that half of Americans would never approve of.
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I hate it when it piles a trillion plus dollars a year of debt on our future - which is growing dimmer by the day.
So how is it the "best economy" produces trillion dollar plus a year government deficits? Record deficits.
You realize those two things are not compatibile with each other. One of the two has to be false for the other to be true. And we know the debt is real and probably understated. What does that make the people who claim what can't be true as being true?
If one wants to believe what one wants to believe, the truth about the exploding deficit can't interfere.
I know a LOT of people who supported George W until the spending got completely out of control.
I would love to see that kind of discernment about Trump.
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If one wants to believe what one wants to believe, the truth about the exploding deficit can't interfere.
I know a LOT of people who supported George W until the spending got completely out of control.
I would love to see that kind of discernment about Trump.
Me too. It seems that admitting anything wrong would be siding with liberals.
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I hate it when it piles a trillion plus dollars a year of debt on our future - which is growing dimmer by the day.
So how is it the "best economy" produces trillion dollar plus a year government deficits? Record deficits.
You realize those two things are not compatibile with each other. One of the two has to be false for the other to be true. And we know the debt is real and probably understated. What does that make the people who claim what can't be true as being true?
I don't like the massive debt either -- debt that has been increasing since W took office -- the war in Iraq piled on massive amounts of debt. Yes, Trump has signed bills that contributed to that debt. There is no denying though that he has brought back jobs and people are back to work. We are experiencing the lowest unemployment in history among Blacks and Hispanics and currently the lowest unemployment in 50 years.
If anyone in here believes for a second that any of the socialist running against Trump in 2020 will lower that debt and keep the economy booming they are dreaming and in for a very rude awakening.
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Reagan supporters,
--conveniently exist in heavenly denial, over his deficits.
--conveniently exist, in heavenly denial, over his 1986 amnesty and long term results.
Trump suppporters,
--agents of the devil, over hs deficits
The LACK of Balance, is ongoing evidence of TDS kookeism.
Finally the problem in America, over "Guns and Butter" goes back decades.
The closest we came to resolving it was under GOP House Speaker Gingrich, and DEM Pres. Clinton.
Next came Sept. 11, 2001
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Reagan supporters,
--conveniently exist in heavenly denial, over his deficits.
--conveniently exist, in heavenly denial, over his 1986 amnesty and long term results.
Trump suppporters,
--agents of the devil, over hs deficits
The LACK of Balance, is ongoing evidence of TDS kookeism.
Finally the problem in America, over "Guns and Butter" goes back decades.
The closest we came to resolving it was under GOP House Speaker Gingrich, and DEM Pres. Clinton.
Next came Sept. 11, 2001
Under Reagan annual deficit spending averaged about 4 percent of GDP. Reagan had to deal with two recessions.
Under Trump annual deficit spending has averaged over 4 percent of GDP and has increased every year (5% last year) all with no recessions and with a "great economy".
An Addition:
Reagan was also in the middle of the cold war. Our spending at that time bankrupted the USSR. And in spite of all that our deficits as a percentage of GDP were lower then than they are now.
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If anyone in here believes for a second that any of the socialist running against Trump in 2020 will lower that debt and keep the economy booming they are dreaming and in for a very rude awakening.
You ain't gonna do any better with the Democrats?
REALLY? That's your argument?
So throw fiscal conservatives under the bus! And with that behavior, since they know they can get away with it, throw fiscal conservatism away wholesale.
I cannot believe that any conservative would let this slide with a shrug and a wave. *****rollingeyes*****
This is a MAJOR violation of primary fiscal principles.
As I have said before, JUST for the violation of fiscal principles, I cannot vote for the man.
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Reagan supporters,
--conveniently exist in heavenly denial, over his deficits.
--conveniently exist, in heavenly denial, over his 1986 amnesty and long term results.
Yeah, that's bullcrap.
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You ain't gonna do any better with the Democrats?
REALLY? That's your argument?
So throw fiscal conservatives under the bus! And with that behavior, since they know they can get away with it, throw fiscal conservatism away wholesale.
I cannot believe that any conservative would let this slide with a shrug and a wave. *****rollingeyes*****
This is a MAJOR violation of primary fiscal principles.
As I have said before, JUST for the violation of fiscal principles, I cannot vote for the man.
Amen
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Topic: Rudy says he dropping docs .Topic is not: Trump's economic policy.
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We are experiencing the lowest unemployment in history among Blacks and Hispanics and currently the lowest unemployment in 50 years.
And yet they turned out in booming numbers in a midterm to vote against the GOP & Trump. Why?
Because they (and an overwhelming number of now similarly "woke" 18-29 year olds) find the man personally despicable.
Just because Trumpists choose to poo-pooh, enable, and dismiss the daily lying, jaw-dropping degradation, demented bullying, embarrassing childishness, and fetid feces-smearing on the walls of the Oval Office, doesn't mean other Americans will.
In fact, it's a surreal arrogance to expect others to do so.
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Topic: Rudy says he dropping docs .Topic is not: Trump's economic policy.
:thumbsup:
Absolutely, that's the topic, not going off topic all the time.
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I'm glad Rudy finally spoke, he's often too quiet and subdued.
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@Chosen Daughter @roamer_1
Thank you both!
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I'm glad Rudy finally spoke, he's often too quiet and subdued.
Has he actually done anything yet?
Do you think he WILL actually do something??
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Hey Rudy....
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You ain't gonna do any better with the Democrats?
REALLY? That's your argument?
So throw fiscal conservatives under the bus! And with that behavior, since they know they can get away with it, throw fiscal conservatism away wholesale.
I cannot believe that any conservative would let this slide with a shrug and a wave. *****rollingeyes*****
This is a MAJOR violation of primary fiscal principles.
As I have said before, JUST for the violation of fiscal principles, I cannot vote for the man.
Oh dear. No, that's not an argument. That is FACT. Not letting anything slide -- but I have to vote for who I believe will give us at least a slight glimmer of keeping this Republic. IF this Republic falls -- we're not going to have to worry about primary fiscal principles.
@roamer_1 I would never, ever, expect you to vote for anything other that what your conscience allows.
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Has he actually done anything yet?
Do you think he WILL actually do something??
In my humble opinion, Giuliani hasn't done Trump any good. I don't trust him in the least.
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Has he actually done anything yet?
Do you think he WILL actually do something??
Rudy was on FOX news and they tried to shut him up and couldn't.
Thank you @musiclady
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Oh dear. No, that's not an argument. That is FACT. Not letting anything slide -- but I have to vote for who I believe will give us at least a slight glimmer of keeping this Republic. IF this Republic falls -- we're not going to have to worry about primary fiscal principles.
@roamer_1 I would never, ever, expect you to vote for anything other that what your conscience allows.
Exactly. If the radical leftist Democrats get back in the White House with even one branch of Congress on their side, the very least of our problems will be the deficit.
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Oh dear. No, that's not an argument. That is FACT. Not letting anything slide -- but I have to vote for who I believe will give us at least a slight glimmer of keeping this Republic. IF this Republic falls -- we're not going to have to worry about primary fiscal principles.
Your fact presumes a difference. A difference that is not demonstrable.
At some point, one has discarded so much that there is nothing left to fight for. In the inexorable move to the left, settling time after time, the winnowing has so corrupted the core principles that there is nothing left to stand upon, and you become that which you've been fighting. A Pyrrhic victory indeed.
That is not 'winning'. That is losing.
@roamer_1 I would never, ever, expect you to vote for anything other that what your conscience allows.
I know. :beer:
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In my humble opinion, Giuliani hasn't done Trump any good. I don't trust him in the least.
Nor do I.
Not one little bit.
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Your fact presumes a difference. A difference that is not demonstrable.
At some point, one has discarded so much that there is nothing left to fight for. In the inexorable move to the left, settling time after time, the winnowing has so corrupted the core principles that there is nothing left to stand upon, and you become that which you've been fighting. A Pyrrhic victory indeed.
That is not 'winning'. That is losing.
I know. :beer:
We've already lost holding onto conservatism --very few conservatives in Congress in either the House or Senate. Right now, I'm just hoping to hold on to our Republic and with a miracle (or two) perhaps conservatism will again one day prevail in the halls of Congress. (A girl can dream cant' she?)
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We've already lost holding onto conservatism --very few conservatives in Congress in either the House or Senate. Right now, I'm just hoping to hold on to our Republic and with a miracle (or two) perhaps conservatism will again one day prevail in the halls of Congress. (A girl can dream cant' she?)
We'll be lucky not to lose the Senate also.
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We'll be lucky not to lose the Senate also.
I have no idea what will happen. For the last 4 years, at least, it has only been a question of which party will piss off the most people just prior to an election. Neither party is providing anything to vote for, only against.
The Dumbicrats have way overplayed their hand and that's going to cause some major pushback.
The Republicans do something stupid and the Demacrats not to be outdone go even stupider...
Who knows where that contest will be in November.
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So where's the follow up post linking the document dump Guiliani supposedly was to make yesterday, that would purportedly finish Joe Biden?
The headline (at least as of this writing) seems to be a lie: maybe Rudy is finally about to do something, but I haven't seen anything.
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So where's the follow up post linking the document dump Guiliani supposedly was to make yesterday, that would purportedly finish Joe Biden?
The headline (at least as of this writing) seems to be a lie: maybe Rudy is finally about to do something, but I haven't seen anything.
That's what I'm waiting for.
I would LOVE for Biden to be "finished."
But the headline appears to be no more than click bait.
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So where's the follow up post linking the document dump Guiliani supposedly was to make yesterday, that would purportedly finish Joe Biden?
The headline (at least as of this writing) seems to be a lie: maybe Rudy is finally about to do something, but I haven't seen anything.
Just more "free beer tomorrow" claims.
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We've already lost holding onto conservatism --very few conservatives in Congress in either the House or Senate. Right now, I'm just hoping to hold on to our Republic and with a miracle (or two) perhaps conservatism will again one day prevail in the halls of Congress. (A girl can dream cant' she?)
Then all is already lost. Without the principles that made us great, failure is all there is.
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Then all is already lost. Without the principles that made us great, failure is all there is.
That's the way I see it. When is the last time that you actually were able to vote for a conservative rather than voting for the more conservative of two? After all the GOP (supposedly conservative) talk about needing the majority to take back this country, after they had the majority for two years and did nothing, I was dumbfounded when once again McConnell was deemed head of the Senate and Ryan head of the House. I knew then that nothing was going to change. The only thing that truly changed was Trump was seated in the oval office. Ryan obstructed just as much as he could and IMHO gave the House away to the DEMS. Once the DEMS had the majority in the House, Pelosi and Chuckie dug their heels in to invoke as much turmoil as they could onto this country. Long before Trump even was sworn in many of the GOP along with the DEMS vowed to make Trump a one term President; McConnell and Graham included. Here we sit.
There aren't enough conservatives running to replace the existing RINO's in Congress in order to make a difference. I believe we are holding on by a very thin thread and like him or not (sorry for the repeat) Trump is standing between us and socialism. He's our glimmer of hope. If he's re-elected, will we see enough conservatives run as well to make a difference? I don't know. It is going to take a large majority in the House and Senate that are conservative enough to make a difference and the GOP certainly needs new leadership --McConnell has to go and be replaced with a true conservative and we need a true conservative leading the House -- only then would this country stand a chance of getting back to conservative principles that is was founded upon. I don't know how many conservatives are chomping at the bit to oppose the RINO's in Congress -- I've only heard of two.
Trump has replaced a couple of seats on the bench with two who lean more conservative -- but once this Republic falls, truly, what difference is it going to make?
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but we've had a do nothing Congress for quite some time and IMHO Trump has been the only one to light a fire under their booties to get them half-way in line. McConnell has changed somewhat and so has Graham and thankfully McCain is at rest. The DEMS will stop at absolutely nothing to push until their agenda is realized. Never, ever did I imagine that Americans would seat someone like AOC or Omar which is another part of the problem, nor did I ever imagine the popularity of Bernie the socialist. It is a sad day in America and Trump IS our glimmer of hope. Just my opinion of course and the way I see it.
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That's the way I see it. When is the last time that you actually were able to vote for a conservative rather than voting for the more conservative of two?
ALWAYS. But then, I am no longer artificially limiting the field to GOP.
It is a sad day in America and Trump IS our glimmer of hope. Just my opinion of course and the way I see it.
I see what you are saying, But I adamantly disagree... Tump is no hope at all, as he stands with the 3rd way socialists in the moderate wing of the Republicans. And no single man is stopping anything.
What is needed is an insensed voting base willing to throw the bastards out. But no, the 'base' as it were is placated by poo-throwing and candy... As yet again, the opportunity to enact change slips silently away... SOSDD.
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ALWAYS. But then, I am no longer artificially limiting the field to GOP.
I see what you are saying, But I adamantly disagree... Tump is no hope at all, as he stands with the 3rd way socialists in the moderate wing of the Republicans. And no single man is stopping anything.
What is needed is an insensed voting base willing to throw the bastards out. But no, the 'base' as it were is placated by poo-throwing and candy... As yet again, the opportunity to enact change slips silently away... SOSDD.
I can't see Trump as a glimmer of hope. I can only see I hope we make it through.
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So typical. Democrats guilty of the exact thing they falsely accuse Republicans of doing.
It's a 'tell'. Whatever they are up to, they accuse someone else of doing.
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If one wants to believe what one wants to believe, the truth about the exploding deficit can't interfere.
I know a LOT of people who supported George W until the spending got completely out of control.
I would love to see that kind of discernment about Trump.
I agree. But lest we forget, revenue measures begin with the House. The Senate has to beat that down or send it back, long before the POTUS gets to decide between signing it or "shutting the Government down", which means anything it does for taxpayers is out the window for the duration, 'cause it's "nonessential". (That mindset needs a tune-up, too.)
As cut and dried as we'd like it to be, it isn't with a media that places all of the blame for saying "no" on the POTUS (unless the POTUS is a Democrat).
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And yet they turned out in booming numbers in a midterm to vote against the GOP & Trump. Why?
Because they (and an overwhelming number of now similarly "woke" 18-29 year olds) find the man personally despicable.
Just because Trumpists choose to poo-pooh, enable, and dismiss the daily lying, jaw-dropping degradation, demented bullying, embarrassing childishness, and fetid feces-smearing on the walls of the Oval Office, doesn't mean other Americans will.
In fact, it's a surreal arrogance to expect others to do so.
While that may be, if the economy is better, all those woke folks can get jobs. A paycheck is a good step toward becoming a conservative, especially when the taxes take a bite. It takes a mite longer to shake the mush out of their heads nowadays. They haven't been taught critical thinking unless mom and dad did or they learned it on the streets, and they've been force fed socialist horsecrap K-12 and in college, too, not to mention 24/7 by major media.
Give 'em time, a lot will come around--especially if we mentor them.
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Your fact presumes a difference. A difference that is not demonstrable.
At some point, one has discarded so much that there is nothing left to fight for. In the inexorable move to the left, settling time after time, the winnowing has so corrupted the core principles that there is nothing left to stand upon, and you become that which you've been fighting. A Pyrrhic victory indeed.
That is not 'winning'. That is losing.
I know. :beer:
I agree! :beer:
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ALWAYS. But then, I am no longer artificially limiting the field to GOP.
I see what you are saying, But I adamantly disagree... Tump is no hope at all, as he stands with the 3rd way socialists in the moderate wing of the Republicans. And no single man is stopping anything.
What is needed is an insensed voting base willing to throw the bastards out. But no, the 'base' as it were is placated by poo-throwing and candy... As yet again, the opportunity to enact change slips silently away... SOSDD.
The problem still is present -- the voting base obviously can only vote for those running. IF there isn't someone conservative to replace them - then you're stuck with the 'bastards'. Case in point -- our governor Scott at the time, signed red flag laws. He was replaced by some one much more conservative which was a clear win. However, Scott though he infringed on the 2A ran for Senator and was seated -- that was a clear loss. Sure he took up a GOP seat -- but he's NOT a conservative. Those opposing him were even less conservative. The choice therefore was either him a DEM or no vote. HE should have been thrown out BUT there was NO one running more conservative.
You can only throw the bastards out IF you have people who are willing to take their place. Case in point; recently Scott who was our governor signed red flag laws. He left and luckily was replaced by someone more conservative. That was a clear win. However, Scott ran for Senator and won -- that was a loss. Yes, he filled a GOP slot, but he's flawed on the 2A -- he was opposed by other GOP candidates, but their records were far worse. So the choice was -- vote for him, vote for his GOP opposition who were less favorable or vote for a DEM who would have been an absolute disaster or not vote at all. That was the choice.
We are up a creek without a paddle here. We have to work with who we have. Trump is unchallenged. There is no GOP running to take his place. Therefore, it is voting for him, or one of the socialists on the left. If there is another clear choice, please let me know. I see it as with Trump at least this Republic may still have a chance. Vote for the socialists and this Republic has no chance.
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Yes, a Conservative majority congress can...
There is hope. My son came out of High School (socialist training center) much like all the kids. Armed with his liberal talking points. He has since grown up and embraces more Conservative thinking. He even has a MAGA hat. (not really Conservative) He is aTrump supporter but he does criticize him too. He has never seen Conservative so I can't fault him on that.
Its the Husband and I that go a few rounds about Trump.
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The problem still is present -- the voting base obviously can only vote for those running. IF there isn't someone conservative to replace them - then you're stuck with the 'bastards'. Case in point -- our governor Scott at the time, signed red flag laws. He was replaced by some one much more conservative which was a clear win. However, Scott though he infringed on the 2A ran for Senator and was seated -- that was a clear loss. Sure he took up a GOP seat -- but he's NOT a conservative. Those opposing him were even less conservative. The choice therefore was either him a DEM or no vote. HE should have been thrown out BUT there was NO one running more conservative.
You can only throw the bastards out IF you have people who are willing to take their place. Case in point; recently Scott who was our governor signed red flag laws. He left and luckily was replaced by someone more conservative. That was a clear win. However, Scott ran for Senator and won -- that was a loss. Yes, he filled a GOP slot, but he's flawed on the 2A -- he was opposed by other GOP candidates, but their records were far worse. So the choice was -- vote for him, vote for his GOP opposition who were less favorable or vote for a DEM who would have been an absolute disaster or not vote at all. That was the choice.
We are up a creek without a paddle here. We have to work with who we have. Trump is unchallenged. There is no GOP running to take his place. Therefore, it is voting for him, or one of the socialists on the left. If there is another clear choice, please let me know. I see it as with Trump at least this Republic may still have a chance. Vote for the socialists and this Republic has no chance.
Its one of those things. You see it happening but don't know how to stop it. Keep voting further and further left until Right is out of sight. Well Trump may not be as socialist as the other candidates. But hey we can impeach them! LOL!. No kidding aside we are digging ourselves deeper into the hole. And then there are the other Trumps that can come behind them one all those Democrats and Independents have joined the Trump train. Pretty soon it isn't a two party its one, one party. The Democratic party, workers party of America.
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The problem is, even if Rudy delivers a huge bombshell, nothing will come of it. The globalists control this nation.
Trump is a fly in the ointment, who will go away in five years, worst case. They will wait that long.
Nothing will stop the thieving corrupt Democommies. Nothing. Trump was foolish enough to keep Obama appointees, and he is undermined with every step. I don't believe his stepson is doing him any favors either.
Stepson? If you are referring to his son-in-law Kushner, I agree with you 110%. I believe he is on the side of the socialists.
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The problem still is present -- the voting base obviously can only vote for those running. IF there isn't someone conservative to replace them - then you're stuck with the 'bastards'. Case in point -- our governor Scott at the time, signed red flag laws. He was replaced by some one much more conservative which was a clear win. However, Scott though he infringed on the 2A ran for Senator and was seated -- that was a clear loss. Sure he took up a GOP seat -- but he's NOT a conservative. Those opposing him were even less conservative. The choice therefore was either him a DEM or no vote. HE should have been thrown out BUT there was NO one running more conservative.
You can only throw the bastards out IF you have people who are willing to take their place. Case in point; recently Scott who was our governor signed red flag laws. He left and luckily was replaced by someone more conservative. That was a clear win. However, Scott ran for Senator and won -- that was a loss. Yes, he filled a GOP slot, but he's flawed on the 2A -- he was opposed by other GOP candidates, but their records were far worse. So the choice was -- vote for him, vote for his GOP opposition who were less favorable or vote for a DEM who would have been an absolute disaster or not vote at all. That was the choice.
We are up a creek without a paddle here. We have to work with who we have. Trump is unchallenged. There is no GOP running to take his place. Therefore, it is voting for him, or one of the socialists on the left. If there is another clear choice, please let me know. I see it as with Trump at least this Republic may still have a chance. Vote for the socialists and this Republic has no chance.
I've grown tired of saying it (we're at that point where we are saying the same things past each other and its boring) but I feel like I gotta say it once more - on Illegal immigration and judges, two of the three most important problems facing this country, Trump is far and away the best president of my lifetime. I can only rate him relative to the others.
He's not going to save us, no man can. It's childish to expect a savior when what we really need to do is evolve spiritually as a society. On that much I agree entirely with @roamer_1 .
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The problem still is present -- the voting base obviously can only vote for those running. IF there isn't someone conservative to replace them - then you're stuck with the 'bastards'.
False. If there is not a conservative, then let the 'crats have it. The only way you are going to get what you want is to demand better. You get MORE of what you vote FOR. Y'all are voting in RINOs, so then you will get more RINOs.
If a parts store is poor in service, constantly supplying the wrong part, or supplying inferior parts, I am not going to 'shut up and buy it'. I am gonna go in there, poke their chests with my finger... Raise unholy hell, and if they do not listen, soon I will go elsewhere. The only way that parts store might change its ways is by feeling the pain of a threatened existence. And if it won't change, and cater to its client's desires, it deserves to die. Business is business.
You can only throw the bastards out IF you have people who are willing to take their place.
Why would anyone bother to run on principle if principle is not the determining factor for the voters? Why would they run if there is no demand?
We are up a creek without a paddle here. We have to work with who we have.
No, you do not. Fear is your determining factor, not principle. Is Limbaugh's 'See, I Told You So' so far in the past as to be forgotten in our minds?
Trump is unchallenged. There is no GOP running to take his place. Therefore, it is voting for him, or one of the socialists on the left.
NOPE. I will not vote for what he has done. Constitution Party, thanks.
If there is another clear choice, please let me know. I see it as with Trump at least this Republic may still have a chance.
How are we keeping 'Eternal Vigilance' against the rising tide of evil tyranny by voting for a lesser tyranny?
The notion is absurd. I will do it no more.
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I've grown tired of saying it (we're at that point where we are saying the same things past each other and its boring) but I feel like I gotta say it once more - on Illegal immigration and judges, two of the three most important problems facing this country, Trump is far and away the best president of my lifetime. I can only rate him relative to the others.
He's not going to save us, no man can. It's childish to expect a savior when what we really need to do is evolve spiritually as a society. On that much I agree entirely with @roamer_1 .
I probably don't give him enough credit on immigration. After he was elected it ballooned to a peak of something like 150,000 in May of last year. I don't think that Mexico is going to be able to keep up with the caravans. We can give him praise but we haven't hit those months yet that were high last year. Because it was low and it started rising in something like March until it was out of control. Mexico had a hard time stopping the last group. The immigrants tried 3 times before they were successful to get in by river. But the Mexican authorities caught up to them. We will see what happens in the coming months.
They will keep coming as long as they know they can get everything free in sanctuary cities.
statistics
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration)
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Enough. I've had enough.
All you people are doing is arguing is if that little white spot on the top of a pile of chickenshit is chickenshit. FYI. IT IS CHICKENSHIT.
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I probably don't give him enough credit on immigration. After he was elected it ballooned to a peak of something like 150,000 in May of last year. I don't think that Mexico is going to be able to keep up with the caravans. We can give him praise but we haven't hit those months yet that were high last year. Because it was low and it started rising in something like March until it was out of control. Mexico had a hard time stopping the last group. The immigrants tried 3 times before they were successful to get in by river. But the Mexican authorities caught up to them. We will see what happens in the coming months.
They will keep coming as long as they know they can get everything free in sanctuary cities.
No doubt about that.
I've been waiting for someone/anyone to do anything to reverse the immigration trends of the past few decades. Trump has actually tried something, has experienced some success and I appreciate it like you wouldn't believe.
I believe if we allow ourselves as people lose our social cohesion as rapidly as we have been because of the flood of those from other societies with other values there will never be a conservative revival, there will be no return to the Constitution. It will be over forever and ever amen. We may already be there I don't know.
Truly, schools are cranking out legions of young marxists and that needs addressing desperately, too. But that requires a longer term solution. Immigration is the most immediate problem.
Anyway, what was that about Joe Biden being finished?
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Its one of those things. You see it happening but don't know how to stop it. Keep voting further and further left until Right is out of sight. Well Trump may not be as socialist as the other candidates. But hey we can impeach them! LOL!. No kidding aside we are digging ourselves deeper into the hole. And then there are the other Trumps that can come behind them one all those Democrats and Independents have joined the Trump train. Pretty soon it isn't a two party its one, one party. The Democratic party, workers party of America.
McCain, was a huge factor in the demise of the GOP. He was seen as a conservative because he served in the military and therefore was considered conservative and many voted for him just because he had an 'R' next to his name. McConnell is another one and others that were members of the Gang of 8. Somehow, they keep getting re-elected. Again, they keep getting re-elected because the opposition is worse than they are in most cases, or they've got the money and the corruption machine behind them to ensure that they remain seated.
That's just it though. It's no longer going to be the Democratic party of yesterday it will become the Socialist Party. When we have Americans voting in people like AOC and Omar that voting base isn't even leaning towards Democrats but socialists. Every one running on the left (except Biden maybe) is further to the left than Hillary. Obviously the GOP or the more conservative faction of the voting base voted for Trump rather than a constitutional conservative, Cruz. So with his exit and Trump's nomination the country took a huge turn.
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No doubt about that.
I've been waiting for someone/anyone to do anything to reverse the immigration trends of the past few decades. Trump has actually tried something, has experienced some success and I appreciate it like you wouldn't believe.
I believe if we allow ourselves as people lose our social cohesion as rapidly as we have been because of the flood of those from other societies with other values there will never be a conservative revival, there will be no return to the Constitution. It will be over forever and ever amen. We may already be there I don't know.
Truly, schools are cranking out legions of young marxists and that needs addressing desperately, too. But that requires a longer term solution. Immigration is the most immediate problem.
Anyway, what was that about Joe Biden being finished?
Bingo. I believe that is what Trump has been trying to stop. Yes, illegal immigration is a HUGE problem but the bigger problem is Soros and those funding that problem.
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Somehow, they keep getting re-elected. Again, they keep getting re-elected because the opposition is worse than they are in most cases [...]
That. That right there is the fallacy of voting 'against'.
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I've been waiting for someone/anyone to do anything to reverse the immigration trends of the past few decades. Trump has actually tried something, has experienced some success and I appreciate it like you wouldn't believe.
I appreciate that @skeeter , I really do - But it means nothing. With the exception of judges, which are not necessarily any better (see Roberts), the rest is EOs... As easily overturned as enacted... Poof! No eyebrows.
The solution, the only solution is enacting law, and as long as all y'all stay distracted by poo-throwing and candy, that enactment of actual law will never happen.
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I appreciate that @skeeter , I really do - But it means nothing. With the exception of judges, which are not necessarily any better (see Roberts), the rest is EOs... As easily overturned as enacted... Poof! No eyebrows.
The solution, the only solution is enacting law, and as long as all y'all stay distracted by poo-throwing and candy, that enactment of actual law will never happen.
Its not my fault law doesn't get enacted any more than its your's.
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Nothing means nothing and nothing ever changes because no one ever does anything but nothing.
I've been the first penguin off the floe. Waiting for the rest of you.
And all any of you ever did was NOTHING.
LOOK at yourselves in the mirror. There is nothing there looking back.
I am a dead man walking. Dead surprised I am the last in line.
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Nothing means nothing and nothing ever changes because no one ever does anything but nothing.
I've been the first penguin off the floe. Waiting for the rest of you.
And all any of you ever did was NOTHING.
LOOK at yourselves in the mirror. There is nothing there looking back.
I am a dead man walking. Dead surprised I am the last in line.
Hang in there Fred. You aren't the only one who doesn't go with the floe.
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Rudy also said Democrat officials conspired with foreign officials to “destroy†the Trump candidacy!
No surprise there. The Dim Party on the national level is a solid block of Globalists/Communists.
So typical. Democrats guilty of the exact thing they falsely accuse Republicans of doing.
Nobody ever said they were actually smart. Being smarter than the retards that vote you into office because you promise them everything they want for free is NOT the same thing as being smart.
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Why is it that all BOMBSHELLs from the Republicans are always tomorrow? Or later? Or next week? or next month?
Why not just drop the information immediately without telling Clinton or Biden what you are 'planning' to do?
Just do it!
I have heard this same story from Breitbart to Barr, and it never seems to pan out.
Indictments Coming Soon!!! yea right
I hope Rudy has the goods, but I've been fooled so many times before I'm not holding my breath.
@240B
Can you say "advertising for advertising dollars"? If they just dump it out on the air right now,the station or newspaper can't use "breaking news coming tomorrow!" teasers to sell advertising at inflated rates.
Hit juz bees bidnez.
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Rudy does it? Rudy didn't does it. He didn't do it at all! He just said he's going to do it. Sheesh! I wish people would get that straight
@roamer_1
Well,he IS a New York politician. They all make their marks by promising much and delivering nothing.
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Exactly.
RUDY FINALLY DROPS THE BOMB ON BIDEN!! Well...that is...I mean...uh...maybe he will drop the bomb?...uh...tomorrow?...or at some later date?...maybe...?
Just another clickbait headline from a no name website.
@240B
Am I the only one that remembers when Biden mostly served as a national joke? Even Bathhouse Barry laughed at him and considered him to be a fool.
Suddenly he is the most prominent Dim PRESIDENTIAL candidate,followed closely by a small-time Communist candidate named Bernie Sanders that is almost as stupid as Slow Joe.
How the HELL did these cretins become anything more than jokes?
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newamerica says it all. The Trump America. Not the America of the past, but the new Trump worker party place. Probably connected to Q.
@Chosen Daughter
You clearly hate the America of today. Not enough superstition for you,and all those people out there running around making up their own minds disturbing you?
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The problem is, even if Rudy delivers a huge bombshell, nothing will come of it. The globalists control this nation.
Trump is a fly in the ointment, who will go away in five years, worst case. They will wait that long.
Nothing will stop the thieving corrupt Democommies. Nothing. Trump was foolish enough to keep Obama appointees, and he is undermined with every step. I don't believe his stepson is doing him any favors either.
@jafo2010
I go along with that last one whole-halfheartedly.
And we CAN stop the Democommies,and all we have to do is not vote for them.
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We don't think big anymore. We think small. You are absolutely right, but the way we are going isn't going to get there.
I doubt that we will win the House or the Senate. Probably lose Senate seats. Thanks to Trump.
@Chosen Daughter
A dream come true for you.
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You have been very clear: You want Trump convicted and removed from Office, no matter what. You think Schiff is on the money, and you probably wish he was President because he meets all your requirements for good character and truthfulness.
You are very clear.
@Cyber Liberty
:yowsa: :yowsa:
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Don’t you just hate it when Americans are forced to suffer a booming economy, expanding job opportunities and a bull market, brought about by the policies of such bad president?
@Cyber Liberty @aligncare
Well,Cyber Liberty doesn't,but we all know someone that does.
We ALL know that IF there IS an actual hell,Church Ladies will be the guards dishing out punishments because they love that sort of thing so much. They are naturals.
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@DB
We used to have separate funding bills for each agencies and it was a little harder to hide junk, now with the yuge omnibus bills, you cannot find anything.
We need to go back to the old ways of allocating funds...
@EdinVA
Yes,but if we do,how are the professional criminal class we call "politicians" going to pay for their next mansion?
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I don't like the massive debt either -- debt that has been increasing since W took office -- the war in Iraq piled on massive amounts of debt. Yes, Trump has signed bills that contributed to that debt. There is no denying though that he has brought back jobs and people are back to work. We are experiencing the lowest unemployment in history among Blacks and Hispanics and currently the lowest unemployment in 50 years.
If anyone in here believes for a second that any of the socialist running against Trump in 2020 will lower that debt and keep the economy booming they are dreaming and in for a very rude awakening.
@libertybele
There ya go,telling those "inconvenient truths" again,while making Boy Jorge appear to be the incompetent mama's boy that he is.
"Da Patrician Posse" gonna git ya if ya keep doing that!
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And yet they turned out in booming numbers in a midterm to vote against the GOP & Trump. Why?
Because they (and an overwhelming number of now similarly "woke" 18-29 year olds) find the man personally despicable.
Just because Trumpists choose to poo-pooh, enable, and dismiss the daily lying, jaw-dropping degradation, demented bullying, embarrassing childishness, and fetid feces-smearing on the walls of the Oval Office, doesn't mean other Americans will.
In fact, it's a surreal arrogance to expect others to do so.
@FeelNoPain
It's all about style with you. We get it.
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That's the way I see it. When is the last time that you actually were able to vote for a conservative rather than voting for the more conservative of two? After all the GOP (supposedly conservative) talk about needing the majority to take back this country, after they had the majority for two years and did nothing, I was dumbfounded when once again McConnell was deemed head of the Senate and Ryan head of the House. I knew then that nothing was going to change. The only thing that truly changed was Trump was seated in the oval office. Ryan obstructed just as much as he could and IMHO gave the House away to the DEMS. Once the DEMS had the majority in the House, Pelosi and Chuckie dug their heels in to invoke as much turmoil as they could onto this country. Long before Trump even was sworn in many of the GOP along with the DEMS vowed to make Trump a one term President; McConnell and Graham included. Here we sit.
There aren't enough conservatives running to replace the existing RINO's in Congress in order to make a difference. I believe we are holding on by a very thin thread and like him or not (sorry for the repeat) Trump is standing between us and socialism. He's our glimmer of hope. If he's re-elected, will we see enough conservatives run as well to make a difference? I don't know. It is going to take a large majority in the House and Senate that are conservative enough to make a difference and the GOP certainly needs new leadership --McConnell has to go and be replaced with a true conservative and we need a true conservative leading the House -- only then would this country stand a chance of getting back to conservative principles that is was founded upon. I don't know how many conservatives are chomping at the bit to oppose the RINO's in Congress -- I've only heard of two.
Trump has replaced a couple of seats on the bench with two who lean more conservative -- but once this Republic falls, truly, what difference is it going to make?
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but we've had a do nothing Congress for quite some time and IMHO Trump has been the only one to light a fire under their booties to get them half-way in line. McConnell has changed somewhat and so has Graham and thankfully McCain is at rest. The DEMS will stop at absolutely nothing to push until their agenda is realized. Never, ever did I imagine that Americans would seat someone like AOC or Omar which is another part of the problem, nor did I ever imagine the popularity of Bernie the socialist. It is a sad day in America and Trump IS our glimmer of hope. Just my opinion of course and the way I see it.
@libertybele
WELL SAID! :beer: :beer: :beer:
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I've grown tired of saying it (we're at that point where we are saying the same things past each other and its boring) but I feel like I gotta say it once more - on Illegal immigration and judges, two of the three most important problems facing this country, Trump is far and away the best president of my lifetime. I can only rate him relative to the others.
He's not going to save us, no man can. It's childish to expect a savior when what we really need to do is evolve spiritually as a society. On that much I agree entirely with @roamer_1 .
@skeeter
BUT.....BUT.....BUT,Orange Man Bad! Hiz fee stink and he doan luv Jesus!
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BUT.....BUT.....BUT,Orange Man Bad! Hiz fee stink and he doan luv Jesus!
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For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
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So this topic has been going for a few days now (and IMHO had some good human conversation going for a bit towards the end)... Has Tuti Fruiti Crossdressing Rudi actually delivered anything yet? Or like someone up-tread mentioned, was it only a bait headline?
BTW... Jesus has no problem washing feet... even filthy ones.
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For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
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@Sighlass
What are you trying to say?
So this topic has been going for a few days now (and IMHO had some good human conversation going for a bit towards the end)... Has Tuti Fruiti Crossdressing Rudi actually delivered anything yet? Or like someone up-tread mentioned, was it only a bait headline?
Since you can't figure it out,bait headline.
BTW... Jesus has no problem washing feet... even filthy ones.
That was the rumor.
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I'm not going to read a thread with a ridiculous subject like this, so forgive me if someone has already pointed out the painfully obvious fact that if Giuliani actually DID have evidence that would disqualify Biden, it would be insane to release it during primaries instead of holding it until the general.
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I'm not going to read a thread with a ridiculous subject like this, so forgive me if someone has already pointed out the painfully obvious fact that if Guliani actually DID have evidence that would disqualify Biden, it would be insane to release it during primaries instead of holding it until the general.
Also -- wasn't Rudy advised that the information that he may have might actually be Russians feeding false information?
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I think this is just a game. Rudy doesn't have anything we don't already know. Yet another point of the laser to tease a cat.
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I think this is just a game. Rudy doesn't have anything we don't already know. Yet another point of the laser to tease a cat.
@Cyber Liberty
If Rudy can use that laser to cause the cats known as Schiff and Nadler to run out into traffic,I'm good with it.
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@Cyber Liberty
If Rudy can use that laser to cause the cats known as Schiff and Nadler to run out into traffic,I'm good with it.
@sneakypete That's the trouble with laser pointers. We don't know which cat is being teased, and I think in too many cases, it's us.
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@sneakypete That's the trouble with laser pointers. We don't know which cat is being teased, and I think in too many cases, it's us.
Which is why I never chase laser pointers. I prefer to let the laser pointers come to me. :whistle:
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@Cyber Liberty
If Rudy can use that laser to cause the cats known as Schiff and Nadler to run out into traffic,I'm good with it.
Excellent analogy. A traffic accident involving those two makes me smile.(allegorically speaking of course :cool:)
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It appears that some of you got your Xanax prescription refilled today, I am hopeful again.
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@sneakypete That's the trouble with laser pointers. We don't know which cat is being teased, and I think in too many cases, it's us.
@Cyber Liberty
Yeah,dammit!
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It appears that some of you got your Xanax prescription refilled today, I am hopeful again.
More like... projecting again.
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Rudy back-door explained himself on FOX either this morning or yesterday morning...
The host asked him why, if he has all this evidence, why doesn't he just release it?
He said, "Nobody wants to touch it!....I've been trying to get people to listen to me, etc., "
So it's obvious that since the nation/world will be watching the President's defense on Monday/Tues/Wed...he'd simply release his findings as corroboratory evidence.
One thing for sure....the reason Rudy won't STFU when he's on TV is that he REFUSES to go on defense and he wants to provide complex associations and details in too small a period of camera facetime.
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One thing for sure....the reason Rudy won't STFU when he's on TV is that he REFUSES to go on defense and he wants to provide complex associations and details in too small a period of camera facetime.
@DCPatriot
That's just one of the reasons he won't quit promoting himself. Some of the others are he is a life-long lawyer,a life-long politician, and a life-long attention whore.
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@Chosen Daughter
You clearly hate the America of today. Not enough superstition for you,and all those people out there running around making up their own minds disturbing you?
Well you would be wrong then. I have never hated America. I love my country. I didn't like it when Michelle Obama made a reference to America finally going to be great with her husband at the helm. I don't go for MAGA either. The United States never stopped being great ever. But we had some bad players. Doesn't make the country bad. I believe in the heart of the country. The Constitution and the Founding of the Country. There isn't any place like it. And regardless of the players still everyone desires to come here. Anyone that says they want to leave pack your crap and go.
I admit we are not without our mistakes. Every country and every person makes mistakes. Its what you do with them that decides your character. So when they say "new" America I don't like it. They have a problem with who we are? They can leave too! To suggest a "new America" it would have to mean there is something wrong with us as a Country. We don't need a "new America". We need to hold firm to the Founding Document and understand the spirit in which this country was founded. Understand who we are and be proud of it. Bad players bad. Get rid of them.
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Well you would be wrong then. I have never hated America. I love my country. I didn't like it when Michelle Obama made a reference to America finally going to be great with her husband at the helm. I don't go for MAGA either. The United States never stopped being great ever. But we had some bad players. Doesn't make the country bad. I believe in the heart of the country. The Constitution and the Founding of the Country. There isn't any place like it. And regardless of the players still everyone desires to come here. Anyone that says they want to leave pack your crap and go.
I admit we are not without our mistakes. Every country and every person makes mistakes. Its what you do with them that decides your character. So when they say "new" America I don't like it. They have a problem with who we are? They can leave too! To suggest a "new America" it would have to mean there is something wrong with us as a Country. We don't need a "new America". We need to hold firm to the Founding Document and understand the spirit in which this country was founded. Understand who we are and be proud of it. Bad players bad. Get rid of them.
Did you ever root for Obama to be Impeached and Convicted? Bubba?
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Did you ever root for Obama to be Impeached and Convicted? Bubba?
It too dang bad that the Republicans were not smart enough to do that. Because yes, I would have. Instead the idiots let him get away with everything. The same way they do and will with Trump. Bunch of do nothing idiots without morals. "All" bad players should be gone.
When government becomes a body that is self serving and left unaccountable for everything that they do. Lawmakers not following the law and getting slapped on the wrist. That is not the intention of the Founding Fathers. We need to get back to the "old" America. The one that doesn't need a refresher course on morals and Constitutional Law. The meaning of serving.
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It too dang bad that the Republicans were not smart enough to do that. Because yes, I would have. Instead the idiots let him get away with everything. The same way they do and will with Trump. Bunch of do nothing idiots without morals. "All" bad players should be gone.
The Republicans did Impeach bubba. Did you support that?
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The Republicans did Impeach bubba. Did you support that?
Yes I did support the impeachment of Clinton. I was thinking about Obama. *****rollingeyes***** He could have been impeached also. Benghazi and Fast and Furious.....
Oh, you did say Obama. I thought I was losing it. Yes, both of them.
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I have never hated America. I love my country. I didn't like it when Michelle Obama made a reference to America finally going to be great with her husband at the helm. I don't go for MAGA either. The United States never stopped being great ever. But we had some bad players. Doesn't make the country bad. I believe in the heart of the country. The Constitution and the Founding of the Country. There isn't any place like it. And regardless of the players still everyone desires to come here. Anyone that says they want to leave pack your crap and go.
@Chosen Daughter
I can't disagree with any of that,but you seem to be shortsighted because you also want to insist everyone live according to your religious beliefs,and both are not possible.
I admit we are not without our mistakes. Every country and every person makes mistakes. Its what you do with them that decides your character. So when they say "new" America I don't like it. They have a problem with who we are? They can leave too! To suggest a "new America" it would have to mean there is something wrong with us as a Country.
There IS something wrong with the America of today. Anybody that can't see that is as blind as a bat.
We don't need a "new America". We need to hold firm to the Founding Document and understand the spirit in which this country was founded. Understand who we are and be proud of it. Bad players bad. Get rid of them.
IF you are saying we need to RETURN to the roots of America,a nation with individual citizens who are the masters of the nation as well as the politicians we hire to manage it for us,I can't argue with that either,but once again,it is not compatible with living in a religious dictatorship. Ever heard of "The separation of church and state"? That's a part of the package,and it DAMN sure applies to the corrupt religious institutions of today,where the leaders take cash and other pay-offs to manage their flocks to please the government.
Governments and religious organizations are supposed to remain independent,not share power.
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Yes I did support the impeachment of Clinton. I was thinking about Obama. *****rollingeyes***** He could have been impeached also. Benghazi and Fast and Furious.....
Oh, you did say Obama. I thought I was losing it. Yes, both of them.
O'Bastard is in a "protected class." He deserved Impeachment, Conviction and then tried in court as a Citizen for Fast and Furious, among other crimes like weaponizing the IRS and the FBI. But Impeachment was not in the cards because Raciss.
What I can't seem to shake is the perception you always wanted Trump Impeached and convicted for reasons other than Ukraine, but that's the weak case the Rats have brought. It'll do, apparenty. This would make you as partisan as Schiff, and I had always thought your reasons were deeper than that.
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It appears that some of you got your Xanax prescription refilled today, I am hopeful again.
You're weed would have been helpful @corbe
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O'Bastard is in a "protected class." He deserved Impeachment, Conviction and then tried in court as a Citizen for Fast and Furious, among other crimes like weaponizing the IRS and the FBI. But Impeachment was not in the cards because Raciss.
What I can't seem to shake is the perception you always wanted Trump Impeached and convicted for reasons other than Ukraine, but that's the weak case the Rats have brought. It'll do, apparenty. This would make you as partisan as Schiff, and I had always thought your reasons were deeper than that.
That's exactly why Clinton will never face prosecution; she goes down, she'll take him with her. Not going to happen.
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My girl called me last week and she had some good $hit for sale, it was called 'AK47' I told her that I'd rather not have anything to do with the Russians, look what it's done to Trump. Fast forward 4 days and I noticed AK47 had been scratched out by Sharpie and 'BB Gun' had been added to my monthly allotment baggie.
She does have a sense of humor.
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My girl called me last week and she had some good $hit for sale, it was called 'AK47' I told her that I'd rather not have anything to do with the Russians, look what it's done to Trump. Fast forward 4 days and I noticed AK47 had been scratched out by Sharpie and 'BB Gun' had been added to my monthly allotment baggie.
She does have a sense of humor.
:laugh: :beer:
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My girl called me last week and she had some good $hit for sale, it was called 'AK47' I told her that I'd rather not have anything to do with the Russians, look what it's done to Trump. Fast forward 4 days and I noticed AK47 had been scratched out by Sharpie and 'BB Gun' had been added to my monthly allotment baggie.
She does have a sense of humor.
Ask her for some G-6... you can thank me this week. :laugh:
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@EdinVA
Yes,but if we do,how are the professional criminal class we call "politicians" going to pay for their next mansion?
Yeah, it's hard to get filthy rich off a mere six figure income.... *****rollingeyes*****
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@Chosen Daughter
I can't disagree with any of that,but you seem to be shortsighted because you also want to insist everyone live according to your religious beliefs,and both are not possible.
There IS something wrong with the America of today. Anybody that can't see that is as blind as a bat.
IF you are saying we need to RETURN to the roots of America,a nation with individual citizens who are the masters of the nation as well as the politicians we hire to manage it for us,I can't argue with that either,but once again,it is not compatible with living in a religious dictatorship. Ever heard of "The separation of church and state"? That's a part of the package,and it DAMN sure applies to the corrupt religious institutions of today,where the leaders take cash and other pay-offs to manage their flocks to please the government.
Governments and religious organizations are supposed to remain independent,not share power.
Oh Sneaky! How do you keep getting this wrong? I have never wanted anything other than religious freedom. I think you are supporting the wrong dude if you are so concerned about that. I don't want to push you to religion or judge you on religion. Rule on religion. If you are concerned about me purely because I am a Christian you surely shouldn't like Trump. Freedom of religion is in our Constitution. The only religion I would care to have any kind of limits on is extremist Islam. Sharia Law. Because it isn't just religious. It is laws that they believe everyone must follow. A dictatorship that believes everyone else needs to be punished or die. But don't, don't call me out for being Christian unless you want to call out Trump too.
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O'Bastard is in a "protected class." He deserved Impeachment, Conviction and then tried in court as a Citizen for Fast and Furious, among other crimes like weaponizing the IRS and the FBI. But Impeachment was not in the cards because Raciss.
What I can't seem to shake is the perception you always wanted Trump Impeached and convicted for reasons other than Ukraine, but that's the weak case the Rats have brought. It'll do, apparenty. This would make you as partisan as Schiff, and I had always thought your reasons were deeper than that.
I believed Mulvaney when he admitted quid pro quo. I still believe that he wanted to dig dirt on Biden for personal reasons. I don't know if that is impeachable. I have a hard time believing he is innocent when he doesn't want Bolton or Mulvaney to testify.
And believe me when I say I would rather have any Conservative. If he was found guilty I wouldn't shed a tear. I could live with Pence until the elections when another Republican hopefully Conservative would step up. No surprise. I find Trump dangerous. I didn't like his action in Syria and I don't like a President that lies about something as serious as an assassination in the ME. I want a president that is honest. It is so plain and simple.
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I believed Mulvaney when he admitted quid pro quo. I still believe that he wanted to dig dirt on Biden for personal reasons. I don't know if that is impeachable. I have a hard time believing he is innocent when he doesn't want Bolton or Mulvaney to testify.
And believe me when I say I would rather have any Conservative. If he was found guilty I wouldn't shed a tear. I could live with Pence until the elections when another Republican hopefully Conservative would step up. No surprise. I find Trump dangerous. I didn't like his action in Syria and I don't like a President that lies about something as serious as an assassination in the ME. I want a president that is honest. It is so plain and simple.
So, if you are successful in throwing the hated Trump, do you seriously think the road will be paved for an "honest politician?" Somebody who can meet your purity test? I got news for you....
:happyhappy:
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honest politician
:mauslaff: :mauslaff: :mauslaff:
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So, if you are successful in throwing the hated Trump, do you seriously think the road will be paved for an "honest politician?" Somebody who can meet your purity test? I got news for you....
:happyhappy:
I can't throw anyone. I have nothing to do with the process. So go ahead and laugh. Roll on the floor...…………. All this is, is talk and I am a nobody. I have no hope that this buffoon could be removed. He is obviously going to be acquitted. My only hope is that we survive whatever creepy, rude, corrupt politician that is elected in 2020. Democrat or Republican. Nothing exciting. Only moving toward another 4 years of outrageous behavior not fitting of the President of the United States of America.
There are a couple politicians I believe are fitting of the Presidency. I can only dream.
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So, if you are successful in throwing the hated Trump, do you seriously think the road will be paved for an "honest politician?" Somebody who can meet your purity test? I got news for you....
:happyhappy:
@Cyber Liberty
In the event that Trump leaves office...
How Is a New Vice President Chosen? In the event that Vice President Dick Cheney can no longer discharge his duties, how does George Bush get a new vice president?
The 25th Amendment, ratified in 1967, solved the problem of how to replace a vice president. If Cheney resigned, President Bush would select a nominee for the vice presidency. Then the nominee would have to be approved by majority votes in both the House and the Senate.
Before the 25th Amendment, a vacancy in the office was simply left unfilled. The impetus for the 25th was the assassination of John F. Kennedy–with Lyndon Johnson’s ascension to the presidency, there was no vice president in place in case something befell Johnson. Then-Rep. Gerald Ford was appointed under the 25th following the resignation of Vice President Spiro Agnew in 1973. In 1974, after Richard Nixon resigned, Ford became president and selected Nelson Rockefeller as vice president. After a long congressional inquiry, Rockefeller was approved, making them the country’s first nonelected president and vice president.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2001/03/how-is-a-new-vice-president-chosen.html
Now who would get a majority votes in both houses.... times up...
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Ben Sasse 2024
https://www.presidentialelection.com/historical_memorabilia_and_collectibles/categories/2020-campaign-buttons/2020-hopefuls/ben-sasse-2020-presidential-hopeful-campaign-buttons/ (https://www.presidentialelection.com/historical_memorabilia_and_collectibles/categories/2020-campaign-buttons/2020-hopefuls/ben-sasse-2020-presidential-hopeful-campaign-buttons/)
https://www.sasse.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/about (https://www.sasse.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/about)
or 2020?
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Ben Sasse 2024
https://www.presidentialelection.com/historical_memorabilia_and_collectibles/categories/2020-campaign-buttons/2020-hopefuls/ben-sasse-2020-presidential-hopeful-campaign-buttons/ (https://www.presidentialelection.com/historical_memorabilia_and_collectibles/categories/2020-campaign-buttons/2020-hopefuls/ben-sasse-2020-presidential-hopeful-campaign-buttons/)
I don't like Sasse. I think I'll agitate for his impeachment if you ever get him. That's the way it's done by the pious these days, right?
Impee Foty-six! Impee Foty-six!!!
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I don't like Sasse. I think I'll agitate for his impeachment if you ever get him. That's the way it's done by the pious these days, right?
Impee Foty-six! Impee Foty-six!!!
Go ahead. Maybe you are more of a somebody than I. But I like him.
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Go ahead. Maybe you are more of a somebody than I. But I like him.
I don't, so by your standards I can declare him morally for office. I'm sure you will support me in this because I know you think it's more important to be pious than successful in moving conservatism down the playing field. It's better to "feeeel good" about a politician than it is for him to be right on the issues. All I have to do is find fault in everything he says, and everything he does. And get my friends in the Rat party to do my dirty work while I sit back and tell everybody "See?? I told you so."
This will be my attitude if you ever get your way in throwing out Trump. All flags flying.
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I don't, so by your standards I can declare him morally for office. I'm sure you will support me in this because I know you think it's more important to be pious than successful in moving conservatism down the playing field. It's better to "feeeel good" about a politician than it is for him to be right on the issues. All I have to do is find fault in everything he says, and everything he does. And get my friends in the Rat party to do my dirty work while I sit back and tell everybody "See?? I told you so."
This will be my attitude if you ever get your way in throwing out Trump. All flags flying.
@Cyber Liberty
Smoooooth!
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I don't, so by your standards I can declare him morally for office. I'm sure you will support me in this because I know you think it's more important to be pious than successful in moving conservatism down the playing field. It's better to "feeeel good" about a politician than it is for him to be right on the issues. All I have to do is find fault in everything he says, and everything he does. And get my friends in the Rat party to do my dirty work while I sit back and tell everybody "See?? I told you so."
This will be my attitude if you ever get your way in throwing out Trump. All flags flying.
Well did you like that Trump took full credit at March for life?
Sen. Ben Sasse seeks to fast-track bill to protect abortion survivors
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https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/sen-ben-sasse-seeks-to-fast-track-bill-to-protect-abortion-survivors-40083 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/sen-ben-sasse-seeks-to-fast-track-bill-to-protect-abortion-survivors-40083)
This isn't my first dance with promoting Sasse. I have mentioned him many times before and I remember especially Frank saying that he was a do nothing. But even Trump has endorsed him now. And I didn't say Trump was engaged in quid pro quo Mulvaney did. But I have liked Ben for a very long time because he is real and Conservative. I don't think that they could find dirt on this guy.
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Well did you like that Trump took full credit at March for life?
Sen. Ben Sasse seeks to fast-track bill to protect abortion survivors
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https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/sen-ben-sasse-seeks-to-fast-track-bill-to-protect-abortion-survivors-40083 (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/sen-ben-sasse-seeks-to-fast-track-bill-to-protect-abortion-survivors-40083)
This isn't my first dance with promoting Sasse. And I didn't say Trump was engaged in quid pro quo Mulvaney did. But I have liked Ben for a very long time because he is real and Conservative. I don't think that they could find dirt on this guy.
I have confidence the Rats can dig something up a couple weeks before an important election (some gal will claim he made a pass at here when they were 17), and to demonstrate my depth of support, I'll turn on Sasse in a New York second if Rachel Maddow tells me to. I will accept nothing less than perfect, and if I ever find out Sasse took a first class seat in an airplane that doesn't belong to him, I'm going on the Impeachment bandwagon. Even if he signs a law prohibiting all abortions, he won't be pure enough for me.
Impee Foty Six!
I'm deep.
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I have confidence the Rats can dig something up a couple weeks before an important election (some gal will claim he made a pass at here when they were 17), and to demonstrate my depth of support, I'll turn on Sasse in a New York second if Rachel Maddow tells me to. I will accept nothing less than perfect, and if I ever find out Sasse took a first class seat in an airplane that doesn't belong to him, I'm going on the Impeachment bandwagon. Even if he signs a law prohibiting all abortions, he won't be pure enough for me.
Impee Foty Six!
I'm deep.
OK, LOL!
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OK, LOL!
I guess the thing I am driving at, we'll never see a righteous politician. Good people are driven out of the Party at the lowest levels, so it's not possible to ever get on even the first rung of the elective ladder. Exceptions exist, out in the hinterland, but a good person can't get elected in the big cities. I think big cities are poisonous to the soul and it filters out the good, and skims the worst from the top. I lived in Phoenix for over 35 years
Politics and spirituality are almost self exclusive it seems, and it's a crying shame. I am hoping somebody nice like me and you can get elected to something, even if it's in my new small town, where we found a Castle with a view. My first friend when I moved here turns out to be this district's County Supervisor. She gives me hope, you know?
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That's exactly why Clinton will never face prosecution; she goes down, she'll take him with her. Not going to happen.
We need to be sanguine about that. They'll never be prosecuted because there is not a chance in Hell any DC jury would convict them of anything. Sad. True.
They'll die in ignominy. I know, when they're jetting the World on G650s it's not much of a consolation.
We have a Republic to SAVE! And, it is in peril ...
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I don't like Sasse. I think I'll agitate for his impeachment if you ever get him. That's the way it's done by the pious these days, right?
Impee Foty-six! Impee Foty-six!!!
Definitely impeachment worthy.
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I have written it before, and I will write it again: Rudy took down the Gambino Family. He understands complex Organized Crime. It was the Five Family mobsters in NYC before he took them down. Now, it's Ukraine. ONLY Rudy Giuliani can be the guy who GETS IT! This isn't CIA stuff, it's US Attorney Stuff. Rudy is the BEST EVER!
He has a CV. With all the attendant personal and family peril. With all the political opposition from corrupt NYC Democrat pigs. He dodged several assassination attempts. He is NOT afraid of anything.
Again ... he's a Junkyard Dog on a Meaty Bone. And, his reputation is being smeared and reviled. The "meaty bone" does not have "Alpo" it has "Biden".
I wouldn't want to be around the Bidens' right now. If Guiliani has you in your target ... you're fuc ... screwed.
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That's the way I see it. When is the last time that you actually were able to vote for a conservative rather than voting for the more conservative of two? After all the GOP (supposedly conservative) talk about needing the majority to take back this country, after they had the majority for two years and did nothing, I was dumbfounded when once again McConnell was deemed head of the Senate and Ryan head of the House. I knew then that nothing was going to change. The only thing that truly changed was Trump was seated in the oval office. Ryan obstructed just as much as he could and IMHO gave the House away to the DEMS. Once the DEMS had the majority in the House, Pelosi and Chuckie dug their heels in to invoke as much turmoil as they could onto this country. Long before Trump even was sworn in many of the GOP along with the DEMS vowed to make Trump a one term President; McConnell and Graham included. Here we sit.
There aren't enough conservatives running to replace the existing RINO's in Congress in order to make a difference. I believe we are holding on by a very thin thread and like him or not (sorry for the repeat) Trump is standing between us and socialism. He's our glimmer of hope. If he's re-elected, will we see enough conservatives run as well to make a difference? I don't know. It is going to take a large majority in the House and Senate that are conservative enough to make a difference and the GOP certainly needs new leadership --McConnell has to go and be replaced with a true conservative and we need a true conservative leading the House -- only then would this country stand a chance of getting back to conservative principles that is was founded upon. I don't know how many conservatives are chomping at the bit to oppose the RINO's in Congress -- I've only heard of two.
Trump has replaced a couple of seats on the bench with two who lean more conservative -- but once this Republic falls, truly, what difference is it going to make?
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but we've had a do nothing Congress for quite some time and IMHO Trump has been the only one to light a fire under their booties to get them half-way in line. McConnell has changed somewhat and so has Graham and thankfully McCain is at rest. The DEMS will stop at absolutely nothing to push until their agenda is realized. Never, ever did I imagine that Americans would seat someone like AOC or Omar which is another part of the problem, nor did I ever imagine the popularity of Bernie the socialist. It is a sad day in America and Trump IS our glimmer of hope. Just my opinion of course and the way I see it.
PLEASE libertylady, do not be pessimistic!
100,000 requests for a Trump rally in New Jersey??? Screw the "FOX Poll" where they're so embarrassed they immediately say "It's a 48-42 Democrat to Republican bias". Really? What else is new? Don't be beaten down!
I'm patient with Millenialls, they'll figure stuff out if they ever get married and have mortgages and kids etc. etc. But, I am really hopeful about the Gen Z kids. They have seen their older sister's sonograms and KNOW life is in the womb.
That's a moral - hearts and minds - battle that is impossible to market or game plan. Those young people saw their new niece of nephew or little sister after 17 weeks through the sonogram. The young folks who have flocked to the "Right to Life" movement FAR exceed the idiots who the media portray as the Socialist surge. And, that dissonance will not be lost on them.
Kids are largely ignorant. We all were! They're NOT stupid. Public schooling, with the protected NEA jackasses, are blocking the knowledge of US and World History, Civics ... Math and Science and Reading ... etc.
Indoctrination needs to be identified and showcased. Evil spawns in the dark. That's Public Education.
I am hopefully optimistic! It's imperative we get four more years of the Trump agenda and take the House back. I'm working! Bless ya!
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And I didn't say Trump was engaged in quid pro quo Mulvaney did.
Mulvaney did no such thing. Mulvaney simply said that foreign aid is a tool used to serve America's interests. It is something that we (i.e. the United States) do.
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Mulvaney did no such thing. Mulvaney simply said that foreign aid is a tool used to serve America's interests. It is something that we (i.e. the United States) do.
Well I hope they get that straightened out. They need to call Bolton as a witness.
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/mulvaney-tears-wallace-quid-pro-quo-argument-not
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Well I hope they get that straightened out. They need to call Bolton as a witness.
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/mulvaney-tears-wallace-quid-pro-quo-argument-not
No! They don't! What they NEED to do is put an end to this charade ASAP after slapping the $h*% out of Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Jerry Nadler. Schiff needs to be charged and prosecuted for his crimes.
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No! They don't! What they NEED to do is put an end to this charade ASAP after slapping the $h*% out of Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Jerry Nadler. Schiff needs to be charged and prosecuted for his crimes.
Well it seems either Bolton or Trump is lying. I know who has been proven to lie. Put Bolton on the witness stand.
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Well it seems either Bolton or Trump is lying. I know who has been proven to lie. Put Bolton on the witness stand.
There are other possibilities as well. Namely Alexander Vindiman's brother and the NY Times. Both of which lie repeatedly.
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Who would be foolish enough to believe that a thoroughly disgruntled fired employee could be trusted to tell the unvarnished truth about the boss who fired him?
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Trump denies telling Bolton Ukraine aid was tied to investigations
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480033-trump-denies-telling-bolton-ukraine-aid-was-tied-to-investigations
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Who would be foolish enough to believe that a thoroughly disgruntled fired employee could be trusted to tell the unvarnished truth about the boss who fired him?
Not to mention the fact that it makes not one iota of difference whether or not he did! Not a bit!
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Not to mention the fact that it makes not one iota of difference whether or not he did! Not a bit!
I've said this on several occasions. If Trump withheld Urkranian aid to be able to root out US political corruption (Biden), then He did the country a damn big service.
To me this like a jay-walking charge to save a kid from traffic.
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I've said this on several occasions. If Trump withheld Urkranian aid to be able to root out US political corruption (Biden), then He did the country a damn big service.
To me this like a jay-walking charge to save a kid from traffic.
The thought that aid could not be withheld before a foreign government deals with corruption affecting both our government and theirs, or at least shows a serious inclination to do so, is flabbergasting.
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The thought that aid could not be withheld before a foreign government deals with corruption affecting both our government and theirs, or at least shows a serious inclination to do so, is flabbergasting.
The entire thing is surreal. Nonstop bullshit since 2016.
But if the rats & their media toads can pull this particular farce off they can pull off anything.
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The entire thing is surreal. Nonstop bullshit since 2016.
But if the rats & their media toads can pull this particular farce off they can pull off anything.
After the Obama years of pervasive governmental corruption, some involving national security, for fun and profit, it is apparent that there is little not up for grabs in the completely amoral environment within the Beltway and beyond.
If the guilty were tarred and feathered, the MSM would howl about the poor children forced to sleep under leaky roofs because of the tar shortage, not to mention the near extinction of chickens.
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No! They don't! What they NEED to do is put an end to this charade ASAP after slapping the $h*% out of Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Jerry Nadler. Schiff needs to be charged and prosecuted for his crimes.
@Bigun
Yeah,that. ALL of it.
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I've said this on several occasions. If Trump withheld Urkranian aid to be able to root out US political corruption (Biden), then He did the country a damn big service.
To me this like a jay-walking charge to save a kid from traffic.
@catfish1957 888high58888
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The thought that aid could not be withheld before a foreign government deals with corruption affecting both our government and theirs, or at least shows a serious inclination to do so, is flabbergasting.
@Smokin Joe
No,it is business as usual with the Dims,who always get their cut in kickbacks. Trump is upsetting their apple carts,and it's really pissing off the political pros who have made fortunes their whole careers from skimming off of foreign aid via these kickbacks.
What are their children to do if this keeps happening,get jobs? How can they get jobs where they are not qualified or prepared to do anything but be middle-men in money laundering schemes?
BTW,there are more than a few alleged Republicans and their children involved in this too,and they need to be taken down,also.
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After the Obama years of pervasive governmental corruption, some involving national security, for fun and profit, it is apparent that there is little not up for grabs in the completely amoral environment within the Beltway and beyond.
If the guilty were tarred and feathered, the MSM would howl about the poor children forced to sleep under leaky roofs because of the tar shortage, not to mention the near extinction of chickens.
Americans are extremely close to losing it all - from a constitutional republic to an oligarchy.
The Susan Collins, Mitt Romneys and John Boltons know damn well this is a charade. They aren't stupid people, they know what the facts are. Yet they choose to be complicit in the coup against a legitimately elected executive.
They deserve to swing with the rats.
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@Smokin Joe
No,it is business as usual with the Dims,who always get their cut in kickbacks. Trump is upsetting their apple carts,and it's really pissing off the political pros who have made fortunes their whole careers from skimming off of foreign aid via these kickbacks.
What are their children to do if this keeps happening,get jobs? How can they get jobs where they are not qualified or prepared to do anything but be middle-men in money laundering schemes?
BTW,there are more than a few alleged Republicans and their children involved in this too,and they need to be taken down,also.
I'm all for cleaning house... (and the senate..., and....)
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I'm all for cleaning house... (and the senate..., and....)
I'm for that as well as trimming the bureaucracy severely!
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Americans are extremely close to losing it all - from a constitutional republic to an oligarchy.
The Susan Collins, Mitt Romneys and John Boltons know damn well this is a charade. They aren't stupid people, they know what the facts are. Yet they choose to be complicit in the coup against a legitimately elected executive.
They deserve to swing with the rats.
@skeeter
Yup,no difference between a subversive and a traitor. Public hangings are what is called for.
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I've said this on several occasions. If Trump withheld Urkranian aid to be able to root out US political corruption (Biden), then He did the country a damn big service.
To me this like a jay-walking charge to save a kid from traffic.
@catfish1957 @sneakypete
IIRC the president's oath of office includes the words "ensure that the laws are faithfully executed". Kind of hard for him to do that if he can't look for corruption.
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@catfish1957 @sneakypete
IIRC the president's oath of office includes the words "ensure that the laws are faithfully executed". Kind of hard for him to do that if he can't look for corruption.
@Bigun
I would be more than happy to help him with some of the executions.
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The thought that aid could not be withheld before a foreign government deals with corruption affecting both our government and theirs, or at least shows a serious inclination to do so, is flabbergasting.
And here's the part everyone is ignoring. Aid (US Aid) that was earmarked for Ukraine during the Obama Administration STILL HAS NOT BEEN DELIVERED!
Officials under Obama siphoned off that money (i.e. embezzled) for who knows what. Yet Trump is impeached for money that was paid out in full before the fiscal year end?
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And here's the part everyone is ignoring. Aid (US Aid) that was earmarked for Ukraine during the Obama Administration STILL HAS NOT BEEN DELIVERED!
Officials under Obama siphoned off that money (i.e. embezzled) for who knows what. Yet Trump is impeached for money that was paid out in full before the fiscal year end?
Doing the right thing has never, ever been the goal of the Democrats.