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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Neverdul on May 13, 2016, 11:14:43 am
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/13/trump-says-washington-post-owner-bezos-has-huge-antitrust-problem.html?intcmp=hpbt2 (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/13/trump-says-washington-post-owner-bezos-has-huge-antitrust-problem.html?intcmp=hpbt2)
Trump says Washington Post owner Bezos has 'huge antitrust problem'
"Every hour we're getting calls from reporters from The Washington Post asking ridiculous questions," Trump told Fox News' Sean Hannity. "And I will tell you, this is owned as a toy by Jeff Bezos ... Amazon is getting away with murder, tax-wise. He's using The Washington Post for power so that the politicians in Washington don't tax Amazon like they should be taxed."
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WND EXCLUSIVE
WashPo explains its 20-man army dishing dirt on Trump
Amazon CEO's newspaper has secret about probes into Clinton's scandal-ridden past
Published: 14 hours ago
Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos’ newspaper, the Washington Post, has an army of 20 reporters and researchers tasked specifically with scouring the life of Donald Trump – but while the publication claims it has just as many staffers investigating the past of Hillary Clinton, the newspaper’s recent headlines tell a different story.
As WND reported, Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward told the National Association of Realtors Convention in Washington Wednesday: “There’s a lot we don’t know. We have 20 people working on Trump. We’re going to do a book. We’re doing articles about every phase of his life.”
Woodward said he has been investigating Trump’s real-estate deals in New York. “The New York real-estate world is more complex than the CIA,” he said.
He also claimed the Washington Post is seeking to get the “essence” of Hillary Clinton. But, despite an active FBI probe into the issue, Woodward dismissed concern about Hillary’s use of a private email server to send classified information, according to a report in the Washington Examiner.
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WND asked the Washington Post: “Exactly how large is the team your paper has tasked with thoroughly investigating Hillary Clinton’s background and associations? Are there at least 20 people tasked specifically with digging through her past and finding details in ‘every phase’ of her life?”
Washington Post Vice President of Communications and Events Kristine Coratti told WND that Woodward was referring to a large team of two-dozen reporters and researchers working on “a special book project” examining Trump’s life.
Why a book on Trump and not Hillary and her 22 biggest scandals?
image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2016/04/hillary_clinton3.jpg
Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton
“[W]e have years and years of reporting on Hillary Clinton to draw from, including her last presidential campaign, her time as secretary of state, and her position as U.S. senator,” Coratti explained. “Because Trump’s involvement in political life is far more limited, the Post newsroom decided to embark on a book as a special project. In order to complete the book in a timely fashion, reporters from throughout the newsroom have been assigned to work for a brief period on particular aspects of his life and career.”
Coratti claims the Post has the “same number of people” on staff investigating Trump and Clinton for its news coverage. She said the Post is planning a series on “the life and career of Hillary Clinton,” which “launches in just a few weeks.” Coratti wouldn’t provide any further details about the upcoming series.
So WND asked if she could point to any investigative stories on Hillary’s past that the Post team has published in the last month.
That’s when Coratti stopped responding to WND’s requests for comment.
WND reviewed the Washington Post’s headlines concerning Hillary from the last month and found the following news articles. Some read somewhat like campaign promotions (“Beyonce and Hillary Clinton, powerful women who’ve both made lemonade”), but none takes an investigative look into Hillary’s involvement in recent scandals involving “Emailgate,” the Clinton Foundation, her acceptance of nearly $75,000 from Justice Department employees while under FBI investigation, the recently released Office of Independent Counsel internal memos showing Hillary was “guilty of criminal fraud” in the Whitewater affair or the numerous women from Bill Clinton’s past who are filling news headlines with their claims that Hillary used threats, violence and intimidation to silence them.
Rather, recent Washington Post headlines concerning Hillary include the following:
“Hillary Clinton to support Federal Reserve change sought by liberals”
“Hillary says she supports statehood for DC”
“Hillary Clinton wants you to know what she thinks about animals”
“Hillary Clinton launches campaign team for DC primary”
“Hillary Clinton: ‘Trump’s economic plans: if he wins, you lose”
“The conservative media’s obsession with Hillary Clinton’s coughing”
“Where Democratic voters don’t like either Hillary Clinton OR Bernie Sanders”
“If you want to buy Hillary Clinton’s old car, now’s your chance”
“Clinton pledges that no family pays more than 10 percent of income on child care”
“Clinton aide Cheryl Mills leaves FBI interview briefly after being asked about emails”
“For Clinton, the general election is about married women. Starting in swing state Virginia”
“Charles Koch suggests that another Clinton in the White House might be better than Trump or Cruz”
“Hillary Clinton has hot sauce in her bag (for health reasons)”
“Clinton’s wonky policies of fine-grained complexity contrast with rivals’ grandiose ideas”
“The village that helped Hillary Clinton move past Bill’s infidelity”
“Why is Hillary Clinton doing worse among whites now than in 2008? Racial attitudes.”
“Beyonce and Hillary Clinton, powerful women who’ve both made lemonade”
“Donald Trump’s chances against Hillary Clinton look far worse than Ted Cruz’s”
“Donald Trump’s ridiculous claim that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement”
Bezos, CEO of retail giant Amazon, a Democratic Party donor and the world’s 19th wealthiest man, purchased the Washington Post in 2013 for $250 million.
Coratti said Bezos – chief of both the Post and Amazon – didn’t specifically order the Post’s Trump probes, despite the Washington Examiner report stating, “[Woodward] said that Bezos has urged the Post to run as many stories on Trump and the other candidates so that voters can’t say they didn’t know about the eventual president.”
She said, “Jeff [Bezos] has nothing to do with the decision [to] publish a Trump book or the Trump reporting. Those decisions are made by our newsroom.”
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But Trump, possibly concerned that Bezos’ paper might publish pieces aimed at him, specifically accused the Seattle billionaire of buying the paper to increase his political influence.
“[Bezos] bought the Washington Post to have political influence,” Trump told supporters during a February rally in Fort Worth, Texas. “I gotta tell you, we have a different country than we used to have. He wanted political influence so that Amazon will benefit from it – that’s not right.”
Trump continued, “And believe me, if I become president, oh, do they have problems. They’re going to have such problems.”
Later in the same speech, Trump said, “When they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.”
Watch video of Trump’s statements on the mainstream media and Jeff Bezos:
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/washpo-explains-its-20-man-army-dishing-dirt-on-trump/#AHFSWk73miDMMiQA.99
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Full interview from Fox News:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4891453547001
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Paranoia strikes deep. It destroyed Nixon and it will destroy Trump, and the GOP, if he wins.
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But he's ok with foxnews.com carrying his water.
And people still defend this fool.
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Also:
Trump accuses Bezos of using the Washington Post to avoid taxes
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-jeff-bezos-washington-post-223148 (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-jeff-bezos-washington-post-223148)
Trump: Jeff Bezos Is Using WashPo as a ‘Tool for Political Power’
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-jeff-bezos-is-using-washpo-as-a-tool-for-political-power/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-jeff-bezos-is-using-washpo-as-a-tool-for-political-power/)
Word salad warning ahead:
Or, in the candidate’s own words
Yeah. It’s interesting that you say that, because every hour we’re getting calls from reporters from the Washington Post asking ridiculous questions. And I will tell you. This is owned as a toy by Jeff Bezos who controls Amazon. Amazon is getting away with murder tax-wise. He’s using the Washington Post for power. So that the politicians in Washington don’t tax Amazon like they should be taxed. He’s getting absolutely away — he’s worried about me and I think he said that to somebody — it was in some article — where he thinks I would go after him for anti-trust. Because he’s got a huge anti-trust problem because he’s controlling so much. Amazon is controlling so much of what they’re doing. And what they’ve done is he bought this paper for practically nothing. And he’s using that as a tool for political power against me and against other people. And, I’ll tell you what, we can’t let him get away with it. So he’s got about 20 — 25 — I just heard they’re taking these really bad stories — I mean, they, you know, wrong, I wouldn’t even say bad. They’re wrong. And in many cases they have no proper information. And they’re putting them together, they’re slopping them together. And they’re gonna do a book. And the book is gonna be all false stuff because the stories are so wrong. And the reporters — I mean, one after another — so what they’re doing is he’s using that as a political instrument to try and stop anti-trust, which he thinks I believe he’s anti-trust, in other words, what he’s got is a monopoly. And he wants to make sure I don’t get in. So, it’s one of those things. But I’ll tell you what. I’ll tell you what. What he’s doing’s wrong. And the people are being — the whole system is rigged. You see a case like that. The whole system is rigged. Whether it’s Hillary or whether it’s Bezos.
It is true that Amazon has a court case pending with the IRS and is also under scrutiny of the EU over how they organized their international tax structure in particular their valuation of intercompany agreements related to the operation they opened in Luxembourg and allegedly used to avoid paying US and EU taxes. I am not sure whether what Amazon has done is illegal or not, but remember that tax evasion is a crime, tax avoidance is not.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/18/revealed-project-goldcrest-amazon-avoid-huge-sums-tax (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/18/revealed-project-goldcrest-amazon-avoid-huge-sums-tax)
But also remember that Trump himself has said “I pay as little tax as possible”. No wonder he says he will not release his tax returns…..
Also Trump seems to not understand what anti-trust means or the meaning of a monopoly with respect to the separate issue of US corporate taxation of companies that operate internationally. Most companies that operate internationally structure their subsidiaries in such a way as to avoid double corporate taxation.
It sounds to me very much like a not so veiled threat from Trump to Bezos – “print anything about me in the WP that I don’t like and when I’m POTUS I’ll go after your company Amazon using the full force of the government and go after you for anti-trust”.
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I just posted a related article:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,206384.msg878467.html#msg878467 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,206384.msg878467.html#msg878467)
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There is a thing called Freedom of Speech ...
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Paranoia strikes deep. It destroyed Nixon and it will destroy Trump, and the GOP, if he wins.
Just because he is paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't all out to get him...
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Also:
Trump accuses Bezos of using the Washington Post to avoid taxes
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-jeff-bezos-washington-post-223148 (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-jeff-bezos-washington-post-223148)
Trump: Jeff Bezos Is Using WashPo as a ‘Tool for Political Power’
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-jeff-bezos-is-using-washpo-as-a-tool-for-political-power/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-jeff-bezos-is-using-washpo-as-a-tool-for-political-power/)
Word salad warning ahead:
It is true that Amazon has a court case pending with the IRS and is also under scrutiny of the EU over how they organized their international tax structure in particular their valuation of intercompany agreements related to the operation they opened in Luxembourg and allegedly used to avoid paying US and EU taxes. I am not sure whether what Amazon has done is illegal or not, but remember that tax evasion is a crime, tax avoidance is not.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/18/revealed-project-goldcrest-amazon-avoid-huge-sums-tax (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/18/revealed-project-goldcrest-amazon-avoid-huge-sums-tax)
But also remember that Trump himself has said “I pay as little tax as possible”. No wonder he says he will not release his tax returns…..
Also Trump seems to not understand what anti-trust means or the meaning of a monopoly with respect to the separate issue of US corporate taxation of companies that operate internationally. Most companies that operate internationally structure their subsidiaries in such a way as to avoid double corporate taxation.
It sounds to me very much like a not so veiled threat from Trump to Bezos – “print anything about me in the WP that I don’t like and when I’m POTUS I’ll go after your company Amazon using the full force of the government and go after you for anti-trust”.
So many words and not a complete sentence nor a coherent thought anywhere...
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Fits nicely with his ideas to" Open up" libel laws.
I was on record (at TOS) of being willing to stand by and see if Trump would/could leave off the crazy talk and personal vendettas and bully boy tactics.
It is surely a vain hope.
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I am for using anti-trust to break up the globalist run, anti-American phoney press. When less then 6 CEOs control 90 percent of the media its not a free press - its an information control system.
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6
http://yournewswire.com/nearly-all-scientific-papers-controlled-by-same-six-corporations/
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?type=media
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I am for using anti-trust to break up the globalist run, anti-American phoney press. When less then 6 CEOs control 90 percent of the media its not a free press - its an information control system.
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6 (http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6)
http://yournewswire.com/nearly-all-scientific-papers-controlled-by-same-six-corporations/ (http://yournewswire.com/nearly-all-scientific-papers-controlled-by-same-six-corporations/)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?type=media (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?type=media)
So I take it you want the Government to tax companies like Amazon...
So I take it you hate the concept of the Freedom of the Press and Freedom of the Speech...
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....so that the politicians in Washington don't tax Amazon like they should be taxed....
I'm just going to leave that right there.
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I am for using anti-trust to break up the globalist run, anti-American phoney press. When less then 6 CEOs control 90 percent of the media its not a free press - its an information control system.....
Wow... thank you for providing a perfect example of the big government authoritarian thinking that has been infecting the Right that so many of us have been worried about. That really doesn't even need a response. That should send chills down the spine of any small government Conservative and Libertarian.
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I'm just going to leave that right there.
Why are all the Trumpdavidians worried? I'm sure the big-government loving presumptive narcississt-in-chief is squeaky clean < /sarcasm> 888what
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I am for using anti-trust to break up the globalist run, anti-American phoney press. When less then 6 CEOs control 90 percent of the media its not a free press - its an information control system.
Typical statist solution. The liberty solution is MORE speech; not attacking existing speech!
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So I take it you want the Government to tax companies like Amazon...
So I take it you hate the concept of the Freedom of the Press and Freedom of the Speech...
So I take it you want USSR type press to tell you what to think.
Do I want the companies taxed? No. I hold Business undergrads and know your little trap. I would like to see the Owner of Amazon personally have to pay the same tax rates as I do on all of his OWN wealth creation he has coming in.
We do not have freedom of the Press nor freedom of speech now. We have 6 mostly foreign CEOs setting the information filters for over 90 percent of American Media and Science publications and we do not have the free Expression of of religion, association etc, now.
I am a constitutionalist; I know that we do not have Freedom of the Press nor free speech now and its getting worse. One of the reasons is the Globalist controlled information oligopolies we have now.
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Wow... thank you for providing a perfect example of the big government authoritarian thinking that has been infecting the Right that so many of us have been worried about. That really doesn't even need a response. That should send chills down the spine of any small government Conservative and Libertarian.
So Free market competition of the press is Big Government now? We do not have a free press now. If we had them competing we would. 6 mostly foreign Globalist CEOS control it now, That's not a free press. Anti-Trust is how ATT was broken up, Shell was broken up, Its to create competition. Competition in the press will go a long way to obtaining small government. We do not have any effective competition in the press now Mostly the Alt media, but not in the MSM.
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Typical statist solution. The liberty solution is MORE speech; not attacking existing speech!
Sounds like Bernie would have been a fall back to Trump for Trumpdavidians if the big-government loving statist presumptive narcissist-in-chief hadn't won the nomination ****sheep****
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Anybody doubt the first thing Trump would do if elected is sic the IRS on Bezos?
And here I thought the GOP was opposed to using the IRS for political targeting.
Trumpkins are so funny.....and damned hypocritical.
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Anybody doubt the first thing Trump would do if elected is sic the IRS on Bezos?
And here I thought the GOP was opposed to using the IRS for political targeting.
Trumpkins are so funny.....and damned hypocritical.
Just as long as our guy is using the IRS it is OK.. Well not OK for me.
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Why does Donny have his panties in a bunch about the 20 investigative reporters? There is nothing to find, right? He said he doesn't ask God for forgiveness because he is perfect and never does anything that requires it.
Donny should welcome this investigation to show everyone how really awesome he is.
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I am for using anti-trust to break up the globalist run, anti-American phoney press. When less then 6 CEOs control 90 percent of the media its not a free press - its an information control system.
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6
http://yournewswire.com/nearly-all-scientific-papers-controlled-by-same-six-corporations/
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/guideDesc.asp?type=media
So how does this apply to Trump saying he wants to break up Amazon as a monopoly under anti-trust? Is Amazon.com a really a monopoly? Does owning the Washington Post make Bezos one of the 6 CEO’s controlling 90% of the media? Is Trump calling for the breakup of the 6 corporations in your first link, like say NewsCorp?
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When you can show he wants to break up Amazon get back to me. The issue was monopoly control of media. And Anti-trust was created for ensuring a competitive free market. Not one thing I saw said he was even concerned about the Amazon market place. It was about hiring 20 staff to create Trump attack pieces.
$neverTrump has powerful filters it seems to ensure they only hear and see what they want it to be not the truth.
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So Free market competition of the press is Big Government now? We do not have a free press now. If we had them competing we would. 6 mostly foreign Globalist CEOS control it now, That's not a free press. Anti-Trust is how ATT was broken up, Shell was broken up, Its to create competition. Competition in the press will go a long way to obtaining small government. We do not have any effective competition in the press now Mostly the Alt media, but not in the MSM.
Your original premise is flawed that we don't have a free-market already and that somehow, bureaucrats can be the solution to a non-existent problem.
Let's look at the original premise- 6 corporations control 90% of media. Of course, stories on that are written to rile people up but stepping back on the situation, that represents a more diverse and competitive market share than most major industries. 6 companies controlling 90% of a market is not a monopoly unless they engage in other forbidden practices.
Media is a more of competitive market than many other major industries: automotive (3 major companies controlling over 90% of market share), software (2 companies control almost 100%), telecom (4 companies controlling 90%+), Insurance (6 companies controlling 90% plus), banks (4 own 80% of home loan market for example), Food production/ag (1 company has 40% of market share alone, top 4 account for about 70%), pharmaceutical (3 companies control 70% of market), airlines (6 control 70% of market share, top 3 alone account for 50%).... and so on and so on...
So is there a problem with the current media ownership model that would fall under the guise of a monopoly or anti-trust issues?
Are there allegations of price fixing? Not that I'm aware of. Most media revenue comes through advertising and that is a highly competitive market.
Is entry to the market barred? It could be argued, especially in the age of new media, it is actually easier now to enter the media market than at any time before.
Is there any limit of information to the public? Again, it could be argued that in the age of new media, the diversity of opinion and news is greater now than ever before.
...and that brings up a major issue- New Media. Not calculated in that ownership is the explosion of new media as an alternative source, giving people almost free access to a diversity of thought and news from around the world, at an instant. If there were any anti-trust issues associated with the 6 major media owners, the free market itself solved the issue with new media.
So tell me again, what is the problem that we need more government and more bureaucrats to come to the rescue? Why do we need 'someone from the government who is here to help'?
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Oh and until $neverTrump examines the 3 urls I posted showing how we do not have a free press now and why - Please stop making ignorance based arguments to me. Its boring when the other side has no intention to seek truth just argue.
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Fits nicely with his ideas to" Open up" libel laws.
I was on record (at TOS) of being willing to stand by and see if Trump would/could leave off the crazy talk and personal vendettas and bully boy tactics.
It is surely a vain hope.
Why do I think that “opening up” the libel laws will not apply to Trump’s friend David Pecker and the National Enquirer?
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Your original premise is flawed that we don't have a free-market already and that somehow, bureaucrats can be the solution to a non-existent problem.
Let's look at the original premise- 6 corporations control 90% of media. Of course, stories on that are written to rile people up but stepping back on the situation, that represents a more diverse and competitive market share than most major industries. 6 companies controlling 90% of a market is not a monopoly unless they engage in other forbidden practices.
Media is a more of competitive market than many other major industries: automotive (3 major companies controlling over 90% of market share), software (2 companies control almost 100%), telecom (4 companies controlling 90%+), Insurance (6 companies controlling 90% plus), banks (4 own 80% of home loan market for example), Food production/ag (1 company has 40% of market share alone, top 4 account for about 70%), pharmaceutical (3 companies control 70% of market), airlines (6 control 70% of market share, top 3 alone account for 50%).... and so on and so on...
So is there a problem with the current media ownership model that would fall under the guise of a monopoly or anti-trust issues?
Are there allegations of price fixing? Not that I'm aware of. Most media revenue comes through advertising and that is a highly competitive market.
Is entry to the market barred? It could be argued, especially in the age of new media, it is actually easier now to enter the media market than at any time before.
Is there any limit of information to the public? Again, it could be argued that in the age of new media, the diversity of opinion and news is greater now than ever before.
...and that brings up a major issue- New Media. Not calculated in that ownership is the explosion of new media as an alternative source, giving people almost free access to a diversity of thought and news from around the world, at an instant. If there were any anti-trust issues associated with the 6 major media owners, the free market itself solved the issue with new media.
So tell me again, what is the problem that we need more government and more bureaucrats to come to the rescue? Why do we need 'someone from the government who is here to help'?
It is reality denial to say my premise is flawed. Why is it you get more information from overseas media and alt media then the MSM? Why is it that so much information is censored by the MSM, such as stories on mass vote fraud? etc. Why is it no matter what channel you turn on the news is almost exactly the same with the same wording nd talking points only adjusted for demographics. Remember asking why they were so focused on the Kardisains when there was real news going on? Remember how they refuse to call it Islamic Terrorism?? etc.
When Globalists control what you see hear and think and its uniform in its censorship and message you do not have a free press.
If you really cared about freedom of the press and free speech you would welcome a competitive market place of information. There is more freedom of the press here on this forum then there is on the Night time news casts.
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It is reality denial to say my premise is flawed. Why is it you get more information from overseas media and alt media then the MSM? Why is it that so much information is censored by the MSM, such as stories on mass vote fraud? etc. Why is it no matter what channel you turn on the news is almost exactly the same with the same wording nd talking points only adjusted for demographics. Remember asking why they were so focused on the Kardisains when there was real news going on? Remember how they refuse to call it Islamic Terrorism?? etc.
When Globalists control what you see hear and think and its uniform in its censorship and message you do not have a free press.
If you really cared about freedom of the press and free speech you would welcome a competitive market place of information. There is more freedom of the press here on this forum then there is on the Night time news casts.
The fact we know about those things shows the flaw in your argument. The market is highly competitive, especially with new media. Just because some people choose to stick with a handful of content providers doesn't mean there isn't a large and diverse competition to those providers. That's just what people choose. The 'night time news casts' are part of a dying sector of a larger media and press scope. To judge the lack of diversity based on that small segment is like judging the lack of health food available by only looking at what McDonalds offers.
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When you can show he wants to break up Amazon get back to me. The issue was monopoly control of media. And Anti-trust was created for ensuring a competitive free market. Not one thing I saw said he was even concerned about the Amazon market place. It was about hiring 20 staff to create Trump attack pieces.
$neverTrump has powerful filters it seems to ensure they only hear and see what they want it to be not the truth.
Trump’s own words:
Amazon is getting away with murder tax-wise. He’s using the Washington Post for power. So that the politicians in Washington don’t tax Amazon like they should be taxed. He’s getting absolutely away — he’s worried about me and I think he said that to somebody — it was in some article — where he thinks I would go after him for anti-trust. Because he’s got a huge anti-trust problem because he’s controlling so much. Amazon is controlling so much of what they’re doing.
Trump is claiming that Bezos is using the Washington Post to attack Trump because he thinks Bezos is “allegedly” concerned that Trump will go after him (Amazon) for anti-trust and that Amazon “getting away with murder tax-wise”.
I know that it can be difficult to sift through the Trump word salad but it doesn’t take “powerful $neverTrump filters” to understand what Trump is saying here. He is not saying that the Washington Post is getting away with murder tax-wise or that the Washington Post is violating anti-trust, he is making that accusation against Amazon.
Again, show me how Amazon is a monopoly or how Bezos owning one single media outlet – The Washington Post constitutes a media monopoly? The Washington Post has no competition? Ownership of one media outlet constitutes “getting away with murder tax-wise”.
And FWIW, when Bezos purchased the Washington Post, there was an outcry by some Wapo staffers that Bezos’ more “libertarian” leanings would influence the paper more to the right. Remember that?
I would also note that Trump’s good friend David Pecker owns more media outlets than Bezos.
Oh and until $neverTrump examines the 3 urls I posted showing how we do not have a free press now and why - Please stop making ignorance based arguments to me. Its boring when the other side has no intention to seek truth just argue.
So having a discussion is “arguing” if it doesn’t fall in line with what you think? Great. Got it. I could go into dissecting the 3 urls you posted, especially the blogs like yournewswire.com and discoverthenetworks.org but I don’t think it would matter much.
I will also say that out of respect for the forum decorum here and being new, just like you, I’ve not used any negative adjectives or pejoratives to describe Trump supporters or called them names. The $neverTrump with dollar sign seems rather pejorative to me. Would you care to explain?
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Also:
Trump accuses Bezos of using the Washington Post to avoid taxes
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-jeff-bezos-washington-post-223148 (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-jeff-bezos-washington-post-223148)
Trump: Jeff Bezos Is Using WashPo as a ‘Tool for Political Power’
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-jeff-bezos-is-using-washpo-as-a-tool-for-political-power/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-jeff-bezos-is-using-washpo-as-a-tool-for-political-power/)
Word salad warning ahead:
It is true that Amazon has a court case pending with the IRS and is also under scrutiny of the EU over how they organized their international tax structure in particular their valuation of intercompany agreements related to the operation they opened in Luxembourg and allegedly used to avoid paying US and EU taxes. I am not sure whether what Amazon has done is illegal or not, but remember that tax evasion is a crime, tax avoidance is not.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/18/revealed-project-goldcrest-amazon-avoid-huge-sums-tax (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/18/revealed-project-goldcrest-amazon-avoid-huge-sums-tax)
But also remember that Trump himself has said “I pay as little tax as possible”. No wonder he says he will not release his tax returns…..
Also Trump seems to not understand what anti-trust means or the meaning of a monopoly with respect to the separate issue of US corporate taxation of companies that operate internationally. Most companies that operate internationally structure their subsidiaries in such a way as to avoid double corporate taxation.
It sounds to me very much like a not so veiled threat from Trump to Bezos – “print anything about me in the WP that I don’t like and when I’m POTUS I’ll go after your company Amazon using the full force of the government and go after you for anti-trust”.
Don't forget about Blue Orgin..
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The fact we know about those things shows the flaw in your argument. The market is highly competitive, especially with new media. Just because some people choose to stick with a handful of content providers doesn't mean there isn't a large and diverse competition to those providers. That's just what people choose. The 'night time news casts' are part of a dying sector of a larger media and press scope. To judge the lack of diversity based on that small segment is like judging the lack of health food available by only looking at what McDonalds offers.
Its competitive? Get back to me when the MSM calls Islamic terrorism what it is. Get back to me when They Show BLM in a negative light, Tell me about them apologizing over their lies with Zimmerman? Get it? There is no competition of message. That's not a free press when they all are on the same page pushing the same agenda and censoring the same stories.
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newspapers have been used that way since they were invented
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newspapers have been used that way since they were invented
Thank you.
The newspaper industry was originally dominated by two types of organizations: political parties, and advertising agencies hawking nostrums of dubious effectiveness. Even in small towns in the 19th century you could often see a Democratic/labor union-backed newspaper up against a Republican newspaper. They've NEVER been objective. It only was made to appear that way, especially now that most cities only have one newspaper.
As for your Big Six accusation: that only applies to television. Radio, for example, is going through a massive decentralization right now. The Big Six (except CBS, who has one foot out the door at this point) have abandoned the medium. The only one that's doing any sort of growing is Salem Media, a Christian/conservative company that is NOT part of the Big Six. Clear Channel, which controlled stations in countless markets, has downsized to the smaller, leaner but still struggling iHeartMedia.
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Why do I think that “opening up” the libel laws will not apply to Trump’s friend David Pecker and the National Enquirer?
Trumps personal pecker gnat running the Nat Eng surely can provide cover for the Orange ticturd.
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Thank you.
The newspaper industry was originally dominated by two types of organizations: political parties, and advertising agencies hawking nostrums of dubious effectiveness. Even in small towns in the 19th century you could often see a Democratic/labor union-backed newspaper up against a Republican newspaper. They've NEVER been objective. It only was made to appear that way, especially now that most cities only have one newspaper.
As for your Big Six accusation: that only applies to television. Radio, for example, is going through a massive decentralization right now. The Big Six (except CBS, who has one foot out the door at this point) have abandoned the medium. The only one that's doing any sort of growing is Salem Media, a Christian/conservative company that is NOT part of the Big Six. Clear Channel, which controlled stations in countless markets, has downsized to the smaller, leaner but still struggling iHeartMedia.
I posted just 3 links exposing how the Marxist Leftists took over journalism/media. One of them, the explore the networks one shows the print media capturing connections by them demonstrating why it is the same disinformation as the rest of the MSM. In 2012 it was 90 percent control of ALL US media.
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I posted just 3 links exposing how the Marxist Leftists took over journalism/media. One of them, the explore the networks one shows the print media capturing connections by them demonstrating why it is the same disinformation as the rest of the MSM. In 2012 it was 90 percent control of ALL US media.
First off, one of those links not only cites known quack Mike "Health Ranger" Adams, but uses a totally unrelated set of six organizations.
Second, another link has outdated information (specifically about Clear Channel, which as I already noted has begun dumping a lot of its stations). Clear Channel, by the way, is not one of the Big Six, is it?
Those Big Six companies not only compete against each other, but with other mediums. Facebook, Twitter, and Google each have their own issues—yet people willingly choose to still use them. Why? Because the general public sees value in them that it doesn't see in smaller sites.
Factor in all the companies and all the forms of media, and it's closer to about 20 companies, not 6.
If you want to talk collusion, that's another issue altogether, but a lot of that is driven by those companies trying to observe what they think the people will respond to hearing, and chasing those same nuggets of "news."
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Tell your bosses you failed with that spaghetti toss.
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Tell your bosses you failed with that spaghetti toss.
You don't know me that well, do you?
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But he's ok with foxnews.com carrying his water.
And people still defend this fool.
It's a disease with no known cure!
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"Amazon is getting away with murder, tax-wise."
So says the guy who thinks that his taxes are none of our business.
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So says the guy who thinks that his taxes are none of our business.
He also says that he works hard to pay a lower tax rate, and that the rich should pay more taxes, including himself. Whatever tax policy you want, you'll find it somewhere in that "best brain."
:thud: