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Title: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: happyg on June 12, 2013, 09:15:53 pm

In an interview with the South China Morning Post on Wednesday, National Security Administration leaker Edward Snowden, 29, claimed that the NSA Prism program has collected data from numerous civilian sources in China.

According to the Post, Snowden alleged that the Prism program, which collects information on users of numerous technological services such as Google, Facebook and Twitter, targeted universities, businesses and public officials throughout mainland China and Hong Kong.

If Snowden is to be believed, the NSA has conducted more than 61,000 hacking operations throughout the world, and hundreds in China.

Apparently begun in 2009, the surveillance did not target Chinese military organizations, according to “unverified documents” in Snowden’s possession, as the Post characterized them.

The interview, carried out from an undisclosed location in Hong Kong, helps fill out the picture that Snowden’s allegations have painted in recent days of the NSA’s massive cyber-espionage programs. Since Glenn Greenwald of The Guardian first broke the story of the NSA’s collection of phone records from Verizon on June 6, a fierce debate has taken place within the U.S. and abroad over the conflict between security and privacy in technology.

Snowden also addressed those in America who ridiculed his choice of Hong Kong as a safe haven: “People who think I made a mistake in picking HK as a location misunderstand my intentions. I am not here to hide from justice, I am here to reveal criminality,” he said.

Hiding or not, Snowden also expressed his “faith in HK’s rule of law,” and his intention to fight U.S. efforts to prosecute him in a court of law. Experts have commented that though Hong Kong has traditionally co-operated with the U.S. in matters of extradition, the process will likely be drawn out.

Several nations have offered Snowden asylum should he seek it, most notably Russia on Tuesday. Russia’s dismal record on freedom of the press and civil liberties makes this a curious offer, and Snowden would only comment that “I am glad there are governments that refuse to be intimidated by great power.”

If true, Snowden’s claims make for an awkwardly timed revelation given President Barack Obama’s meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping over the weekend in California. Over the course of a two day retreat, the two reportedly discussed economic relations, North Korea, and China’s chronic cyber-theft of U.S. industrial secrets.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/12/snowden-nsa-hacking-has-been-china-since-2009/

Title: Re: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: Rapunzel on June 12, 2013, 09:40:27 pm
All he has to do is step over into China, they do not necessarily extradite.
Title: Re: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: PzLdr on June 13, 2013, 04:12:35 am
All you 'Snowden for Hero of the Year' folks still think he's the best thing since night baseball? :nono: :nono: :nono:
Title: Re: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: Rapunzel on June 13, 2013, 04:24:45 am
All you 'Snowden for Hero of the Year' folks still think he's the best thing since night baseball? :nono: :nono: :nono:

Don't you think China already knew this?  They have been hacking us since before that - clear back to Clinton.
Title: Re: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: Atomic Cow on June 13, 2013, 04:25:21 am
I'd be stunned if we weren't hacking China.
Title: Re: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: Rapunzel on June 13, 2013, 04:29:03 am
I guess my attitude about this is I am sick of our government treating us all like we are children.  In this day and age everyone is spying on everyone (internationally)...... what I do not accept is them spying on our email, facebook, google, yahoo, sprint, verizon, etc., and no I don't want them reading my mail, either - though these days most of it is junk mail.....   it is bad enough we have cameras following us everywhere we go, they have GPS embeded in our new cars, and now in NJ is you get in even a fender bender they collect your cell phone from you....... it really is enough to make a person want to move to a Pacific island.......
Title: Re: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: raml on June 13, 2013, 07:03:39 am
My son and his wife live in Hong Kong wonder if the government is spying on them. I suppose so if they spy on us living in the states I imagine they really keep and eye on my son even though he was an officer in the Navy at one time.
Title: Re: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: PzLdr on June 13, 2013, 08:03:29 am
Don't you think China already knew this?  They have been hacking us since before that - clear back to Clinton.

Most likely. But confirmation from an inside source corroborates what they know, and depending on the detail, might cause the Chinese to change any codes in use, and to tighten security. And Snowden may run to the Chinese to avoid arrest and prosecution, which could lead to extensive de-briefings and more damage. Bear in mind that one of the main reasons we were able to beat the Japs was the refusal of the Japanese Navy to believe we could crack and read their Naval Codes.  :smokin:
Title: Re: Snowden: NSA has been hacking China since 2009
Post by: EC on June 13, 2013, 08:37:43 am
Wish I didn't have such a suspicious mind.

Snowden can, quite easily step into China. He has an obvious and well publicized reason for doing so.

Handy way to get someone on the inside, isn't it?