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Title: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: mystery-ak on September 23, 2018, 01:48:14 pm
Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
By Mike Lillis and Scott Wong - 09/23/18 06:00 AM EDT

House Democrats increasingly see the controversy swirling around Brett Kavanaugh as a political boon just weeks ahead of the midterm elections — a saga they think will energize female voters already put off by President Trump and threatening to bring their frustrations to the polls.

“Beware of the wrath of women scorned, Mr. President and Majority Leader [Mitch] McConnell,” said Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.). “It will be your party’s downfall.”

Senate Republicans are pressing for a confirmation vote on Kavanaugh, Trump’s nominee for the Supreme Court, despite Christine Blasey Ford’s allegations that he sexually assaulted her when both were teenagers decades ago. Kavanaugh has fiercely denied the allegations.

In the #MeToo era, Democrats think the Kavanaugh controversy poses a huge political risk to Republicans.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/407863-dems-see-kavanaugh-saga-as-playing-to-their-advantage
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Victoria33 on September 23, 2018, 08:09:49 pm
@mystery-ak

The general public who are not political junkies, will hear on TV -  "Sex attack - Republican Kavanaugh Supreme Court", and vote straight ticket "Democrat" on the November voting machine.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 23, 2018, 08:12:42 pm
@mystery-ak

The general public who are not political junkies, will hear on TV -  "Sex attack - Republican Kavanaugh Supreme Court", and vote straight ticket "Democrat" on the November voting machine.

Hopefully her testimony will be public and they will tape it.  I am thinking that the tough questions would make great political ad.  Put a couple tough questions like what were you doing at a drinking party in a bedroom with a boy making out?  Then throw in some absurd things liberals have said...........
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: mystery-ak on September 23, 2018, 08:16:30 pm

CNN
@CNN
CNN’s Jake Tapper: “Doesn’t Kavanaugh have the same presumption of innocence as anyone else in America?”

Sen. Mazie Hirono: “I put his denial in the context of everything that I know about him in terms of how he approaches his cases”
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 23, 2018, 08:18:40 pm
CNN
@CNN
CNN’s Jake Tapper: “Doesn’t Kavanaugh have the same presumption of innocence as anyone else in America?”

Sen. Mazie Hirono: “I put his denial in the context of everything that I know about him in terms of how he approaches his cases”

Good for Jake Tapper.  Some times that fake media can be true.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: skeeter on September 23, 2018, 08:42:13 pm
People will hear ‘high school party with booze 36 years ago, no evidence’ and think ‘gee sounds like me’ and roll their eyes.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on September 23, 2018, 08:43:05 pm
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Wired Sources‏
@WiredSources 

JUST IN: Sources say Democrats are increasingly concerned Dr Ford's allegations won't sound credible, after all four witnesses, including lifelong friend, debunk allegation

7:17 AM - 23 Sep 2018

https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1043866915117174784
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Chosen Daughter on September 23, 2018, 08:45:57 pm
People will hear ‘high school party with booze 36 years ago, no evidence’ and think ‘gee sounds like me’ and roll their eyes.

Exactly.  This makes the Democrats look stupid.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: jpsb on September 23, 2018, 08:49:10 pm
The Rs should cancel her testimony, ask for an FBI investigation and continue confirmation hearing in
Oct. Dr Ford is lying, do not allow the Rats to turn her into a victim. The victim in all this is
Kavanaugh. This is a teaching moment if played correctly.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: dfwgator on September 23, 2018, 08:53:17 pm
Well with how stupid people are in this country these days, they may be right.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 23, 2018, 08:56:11 pm
CNN
@CNN
CNN’s Jake Tapper: “Doesn’t Kavanaugh have the same presumption of innocence as anyone else in America?”

Sen. Mazie Hirono: “I put his denial in the context of everything that I know about him in terms of how he approaches his cases”
Mazie Hirono < Maxine Waters I don't know which one to hate more.  The dialogue this season has been brilliant.  Must see TV.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: mrclose on September 23, 2018, 09:00:52 pm
The Rs should cancel her testimony, ask for an FBI investigation and continue confirmation hearing in
Oct. Dr Ford is lying, do not allow the Rats to turn her into a victim. The victim in all this is
Kavanaugh. This is a teaching moment if played correctly.

UH, How does an active investigation by the FIBBIES pf a potential Supreme Court Judge help in the confirmation hearings?? 22222frying pan
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: libertybele on September 23, 2018, 09:24:50 pm
Let her have her day in court.  She needs to have some type of evidence that proves he is guilty.  Otherwise, time to move on and take a vote.  At this point, I highly doubt he will get the votes needed anyways.  This is nothing more than a waste of time.

If I were Trump I'd be looking at someone extremely conservative.  But, will the DEMS play out this same scenario?
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: TomSea on September 23, 2018, 09:27:58 pm
I'll stick to what I've said for 5 days, he will be confirmed.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 23, 2018, 09:34:55 pm
If I were Trump I'd be looking at someone extremely conservative.  But, will the DEMS play out this same scenario?

Not sure if you're recommending a replacement to Kavanaugh, but Trump has already endorsed Constitutionalist Judge Roy Moore for another position.  Presumably he could be vetted quickly.

Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: musiclady on September 23, 2018, 09:38:13 pm
Well with how stupid people are in this country these days, they may be right.

That was my first thought.

They know how stupid and ill-informed Americans are these days, and they're counting on it.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: musiclady on September 23, 2018, 09:39:39 pm
Hopefully her testimony will be public and they will tape it.  I am thinking that the tough questions would make great political ad.  Put a couple tough questions like what were you doing at a drinking party in a bedroom with a boy making out?  Then throw in some absurd things liberals have said...........

At the age of 15.  And didn't report it.  And didn't even tell anyone about it.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Sanguine on September 23, 2018, 09:50:08 pm
At the age of 15.  And didn't report it.  And didn't even tell anyone about it.   **nononono*

That's the only credible part of her story so far.  A 15 year old who was where she wasn't supposed to be doing what she wasn't supposed to be doing and drinking what she wasn't supposed to be drinking and something fairly minor happened and she got away with no ill consequences - I doubt she would tell her mom or dad.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 23, 2018, 10:00:12 pm
That's the only credible part of her story so far.  A 15 year old who was where she wasn't supposed to be doing what she wasn't supposed to be doing and drinking what she wasn't supposed to be drinking and something fairly minor happened and she got away with no ill consequences - I doubt she would tell her mom or dad.
She was emotionally scarred when she found out boys found her attractive.  My first girlfriend fantasied I was going to strangle her at a party, when I cautioned her not to moan so loudly as we dry humped.  She felt dirty.  I recognized that girls thought differently when I bragged to all my guy friends, and she stopped talking to me.  I got over it because I felt great.  I don't think that girl told her parents we spent our time grinding against each other.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: dfwgator on September 23, 2018, 10:01:23 pm
People will hear ‘high school party with booze 36 years ago, no evidence’ and think ‘gee sounds like me’ and roll their eyes.

(http://i.imgur.com/vcQx8kt.jpg)
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: goodwithagun on September 23, 2018, 10:04:49 pm
Oh, please! These allegations are sinking faster than a Kennedy Oldsmobile.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on September 23, 2018, 10:06:55 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/vcQx8kt.jpg)
I choked on my bong when I saw the Kenyan.  too funny.
Title: Re: Dems see Kavanaugh saga as playing to their advantage
Post by: berdie on September 24, 2018, 01:38:06 am
That's the only credible part of her story so far.  A 15 year old who was where she wasn't supposed to be doing what she wasn't supposed to be doing and drinking what she wasn't supposed to be drinking and something fairly minor happened and she got away with no ill consequences - I doubt she would tell her mom or dad.



I can't agree more...If this accusation stands I'm getting out my yearbook
it doesn't matter if I was at the party or not.

What a travesty.