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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: mystery-ak on August 08, 2019, 12:38:39 pm

Title: Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son owni
Post by: mystery-ak on August 08, 2019, 12:38:39 pm
Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son owning an AK-47

    Patrick Crusius' mother contacted police before the El Paso shooting because she was concerned about an 'AK' style assault rifle that he owned
    She was told that because he was 21, he was legally allowed to purchase a gun
    His mother didn't identify herself or her son during the call and police did not ask for any other information before the call finished 
    Crusius has been charged with capital murder in state court for the massacre, which killed 22 people and injured more than two dozen

By Associated Press and Leah Mcdonald For Dailymail.com

Published: 21:34 EDT, 7 August 2019 | Updated: 08:32 EDT, 8 August 2019


An attorney for the family of the man charged in the El Paso Walmart shooting rampage says the man's mother contacted police weeks before the rampage out of concern that her son had a rifle.

Attorney Chris Ayres told CNN that the call was made to police in Allen, a Dallas suburb, by the mother of Patrick Crusius, 21.   

He and fellow attorney R. Jack Ayres also said the mother didn't identify herself or her son in the call.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7335661/The-Latest-Lawyer-says-try-prevent-death-penalty.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7335661/The-Latest-Lawyer-says-try-prevent-death-penalty.html)
Title: Re: Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son
Post by: thackney on August 08, 2019, 12:57:23 pm
mother didn't identify herself or her son in the call

Very bizarre, without know who, what did she expect the police to do?
Title: Re: Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son
Post by: austingirl on August 08, 2019, 02:04:01 pm
Apparently the mother expressed concern about an inanimate object, not her son's behavior when she called. See how red flags can be abused?

@EdJames @Bigun

Chris Ayres, an attorney for Crusius' family, told The Associated Press the suspect's mother contacted the Allen Police Department regarding misgivings she had about a rifle Crusius had.

Ayres told CBS News there was "absolutely no fear of violence nor any belief of an intent to do harm" that led her to contact authorities.
The gunman's actions, his family told The Wall Street Journal, "were apparently influenced and informed by people we do not know, and from ideas and beliefs we do not accept or condone."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/el-paso-gunman-mom-called-police-rifle-son-owed (https://www.foxnews.com/us/el-paso-gunman-mom-called-police-rifle-son-owed)
Title: Re: Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son
Post by: verga on August 08, 2019, 03:25:27 pm
I am more convinced than ever that we do not need additional laws on the books.
Title: Re: Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son
Post by: austingirl on August 08, 2019, 03:58:47 pm
Quote from: verga on August 08, 2019, 03:25:27 pm
I am more convinced than ever that we do not need additional laws on the books.

@verga

Absolutely. People will report gun ownership, not behavior.
Title: Re: Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son
Post by: EdJames on August 08, 2019, 04:16:55 pm
Quote from: austingirl on August 08, 2019, 02:04:01 pm
Apparently the mother expressed concern about an inanimate object, not her son's behavior when she called. See how red flags can be abused?

@EdJames @Bigun

Chris Ayres, an attorney for Crusius' family, told The Associated Press the suspect's mother contacted the Allen Police Department regarding misgivings she had about a rifle Crusius had.

Ayres told CBS News there was "absolutely no fear of violence nor any belief of an intent to do harm" that led her to contact authorities.
The gunman's actions, his family told The Wall Street Journal, "were apparently influenced and informed by people we do not know, and from ideas and beliefs we do not accept or condone."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/el-paso-gunman-mom-called-police-rifle-son-owed (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/us/el-paso-gunman-mom-called-police-rifle-son-owed)

And there you have it...
Title: Re: Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son
Post by: Fishrrman on August 08, 2019, 10:45:19 pm
"His mother didn't identify herself or her son during the call and police did not ask for any other information before the call finished"

They almost certainly had the number via caller ID.
They could have followed up... if they thought doing so was warranted.

But I tend to give the police a pass on this one.

Just saying that her son "had a rifle" is "not enough" in and of itself.
She would have had to alert them to some kind of specific behavior that she observed, or something he had told her.
Title: Re: Mother of El Paso shooter called cops BEFORE the massacre because she was worried about her son
Post by: mountaineer on August 08, 2019, 10:51:09 pm
She raised this child, didn't she? If, by 21, he wasn't "mature" enough to possess a gun, sounds like the parents failed.

Hey, remember when 21 year olds scaled the cliffs of Pointe du Hoc?  :thud: