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World News / Re: Royal Happenings
« Last post by catfish1957 on Today at 08:22:18 pm »
History is full of Actions have Consequences examples.....

When the royal grift as dried up, Harry and family's descendants will be scrapping for bread crumbs like the rest of us "dirty Americans". 

I an guessing his Father's funeral will be his last offical event with the Royal Family. 
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Classic Rock Album of the Day- Led Zeppelin- In Through the Out Door (1979)  ****

Kind of mixed emotions today with this review.  This one completes the LZ discography, and of course was the last studio effort by one of the all time greats.  I had previously panned (wrong word-  maybe docked)  the band for a lot of the provocatives toward the experimental.  There is no doubt that under Led Zeppelin standards, Presence was an utter disaster, and since the band had such a short time left, is a travesty of waste of vinyl of what could be, in terms of their standing among the all time greats.

Well, LZ did it again with their 8th and final effort, In Through the Out Door.  But instead of making the experimental feel forced, and funky, the band almost  hit a Home Run.  The eccentricites of this album though not mainstream Zep, did a great job of cutting a notch in the fabric rock, that LZ was not a bit a one dimensional hard rock/blues behemoth.  This album is a lot of ways is even more off the rails than Presence, but without it sounding almost like an off-cranked genre parody.  What many fail to realize that even in a lot of this genre bending, is not only a band that exceeds the stuff they are emulating, it is an exercise....wait a better word is "lesson" of what happens when you gather a group of talent that is so good at their craft they can send "smack" to the industry, and say....   7 great.....   now it is time for us have a good time showing off a bit.

A lot of rock pundits have claimed that Page's influences and efforts were minimized on this LP.  I really think that it more was an industry trend of adding synth to the equation.  Example?  This is about the same time that Rush did the same.  And Yes, too from a volume perspective. No, LZ was not Prog, but '70's sternum rattling 4/4 rock and roll had changed in deference to New Wave influences. Yeah, that sucked...  I know.

With all the accolades, this is still not a perfect album, like most of their discography of their first 4. There also is not what I would call an epic Classic Rock standard song that lives in perpetual greatness.  Back in '79 when I first  unwrapped this LP, I was at first in the same opionion I had with Presence.  More stuff that was not what made the band great.  But unlike Presence, this one gradually grew on me, with the realization that this had some really innovative undercurrents that not as much as that the 1970's were dead, the album was a testament an event of branching out from the base rock/blues into somewhat of alter-ego of a band that rightfully called themselves the best.   Funny...  I always wondered if the band would have taken this direction if had known this was their last.

Not that history as treated post Physical Graffitti LZ well.  To a great majority of the hard core fans, the band had drifted off to a narrow dark corridor of experimentation, and fear that the critics would call them stale and dated.  I'll grant that as accurate representation for Prescience, but with a deep enough thoughtful listen, you can tell that there is a lot going on behind the mic and amps here.  And I think a lot of it kind of self manifested in some of the better later solo work from Plant, and Page with his time with the Firm.  Was it commercialization based?  Was it rebranding?  Was it an effort to expand fan base?  Sadly, with Bonham's and Led Zeppelin's death in 1980.....  We will never know.

Fun Fact:  John Paul Jones has credits on 6 of the 7 songs.  Impact on quality? From my POV, yes and no.  Seems we got the best and worst of the 3rd wheel of the Led Zep song writing locomotive.

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In the Evening-  Zep starts the show with one of their better latter career efforts.  Eastern influenced instrumental breaks out into an all hell breaking lose rocking number.  I love how the understated synth on this one is a great add, than a distraction.  There are even parts that this thing almost breaks into a 3 part melodic bluezy mash.  Classic Zep. 2

Southbound Suarez- Barrel Roll rocker, I guess the intent was right.  But again, not a reason I plunked $6.99 on the record counter in 1979.  Not a bad tune, by any means, but more is expected from Zeppelin.  Searing solo does help save some, but by this time we again realize that 1971 was a heck of a long time ago.  6

Fool In the Rain-  Originally I hated this song. Talk about ultimate rock parody.  The greatest hard rock band of all time had declined into a latin salsa band.  BUT..  after a few thousand more listens, you come to realize that the musical chops on this one is genius.  The slow genre morphing and phasing of the tune is unique.  And if you listen closer, from a musical difficulty point, this is pretty complex.  Ane when the whistle sounds?  Besides a "WTF" and again a few thousand listens, you realize that this is Zeppelin at thier utter most Avante Garde. Can you imagine Page playing this in 1970?  That's growth folks. 1

Hot Dog- Another barrel house almost country effort.  Again not bad, but ....  Oh and bonus points for using dungarees in a song.    :silly: 5

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Carouselambra- Awesome use of synth and guitar.  So strange to hear Page's licks support a synth line.  Song had a great degree of complexity within the simple repeptive riffs that strike the listener. This is also the one on the LP that has some of Bonham's best drum work.  Low key, but fine way to allow the main strengths of the band (drum/ax solos) outifght provide a foundation, for the ridiculously silly and repetitive synth rolls.   The mid song transition into a standard rock/blues rolling thunder  does a nice job of contrast.  Then listening to it as an exercise of dueling synth?  11 minutes well spent.  3

All of My Love-  The hit, and most recognizable one of an album that has faded from view.  Very mainstream from LZ standards, and enough hooks to lure the listener.  Song also has maybe what may be the only pure synth solo in the band's career.  Song in a lot of ways is kind of a cumulative sum of the entire intent of the LP.  Synth, Wierd, and absent Page.  4

I'm Gonna Crawl-  Hate to say, but this one song may be the worst songs in Led Zeppelin's history.  Everyone knows that Page had to have one obligatory hard bluez number.  This one has no sound of inspiration, and the cringe-worthy added synth almost makes it a joke.  Contrast this with "Since I have Been Loving You" to amaze you that this is the same band.  It's a crime that one of the greatest rock bands of all time ended their career with this one, but it is, what it is.  7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRkTo3WbMMQ
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I must have missed it. What position did Trump offer Cruz in his administration?

You miss a lot of stuff.  I'll be okay with keeping you up to speed on this election, but tutoring classes on past elections are closed.   88devil
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World News / Re: Royal Happenings
« Last post by libertybele on Today at 08:08:45 pm »
Somehow I just don't feel sorry for Harry.  He made the decision to marry Markle the gold digger and he went along with airing their dirty laundry because his poor wench felt that she was being mistreated and they both painted the Royal family as racist.  She played the race card and failed.

They now reside in CA and IIRC Harry has applied for U.S. citizenship. He snubbed the family, gave up his royal duties, so why does he think he's now entitled to any 'title'? His children are the ones who got the raw end of the deal. It was his choice though.
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I believe his best bet for a VP would be .....

Thanks for sharing @libertybele   But, since you've clearly promised not to vote for Donald Trump under any circumstances, why are you insinuating yourself into the discussion?
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World News / Re: WATCH!! Dr. Phil interviews Bibi
« Last post by Right_in_Virginia on Today at 07:57:39 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

First, it's the 2-state solution that's doing the same thing over and over and over.

Huh?  Are you claiming Palestine is a free and independent nation state? @AllThatJazzZ You might want to alert the UN!   :laugh:

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Annihilating Hamas down to the last cockroach is new. Unfortunately, Bibi and the nation of Israel have the entire world on their backs as they attempt to achieve this. 

Even though it means annihilating all of Gaza?
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Must be a slow news day.  :laugh:

I believe his best bet for a VP would be Winsome Sears. She's conservative, well-spoken and she's Black.  I think she'd make one heck of a President as well. Only problem is she was born in Jamaica.

I liked Noem, but the whole shooting Lassie incident is going to haunt her.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/05/10/poll-suggests-proposed-florida-abortion-amendment-enough-support-pass/

Poll Suggests Proposed Florida Abortion Amendment Has Enough Support to Pass
5/09/2024
by Katherine Hamilton

Florida voters could narrowly pass an amendment enshrining the right to abortion in the state constitution in November.

A survey by the Florida Chamber of Commerce found that 61 percent of likely Florida voters say they support the abortion amendment, above the 60 percent support needed to pass the measure. However, the results are within the survey’s ±4 percent margin of error. The poll found that 29 percent of respondents oppose the amendment, and 10 percent are undecided.

The Florida Chamber of Commerce poll follows two other polls showing the abortion amendment falling short of the support needed to pass.

A poll released in mid-April by Florida Atlantic University (FAU) found that 49 percent of Florida voters plan to vote yes on the abortion measure, called Amendment 4. Nineteen percent oppose the measure, while 32 percent are unsure how they will vote.

An Emerson College Polling survey also released in April found that 42 percent of Florida voters intend to vote for the amendment, while 25 percent plan to vote no and 32 percent are “unsure.”

The Florida Chamber’s poll also found that fewer than six in ten (58 percent) of respondents plan to vote in support of an amendment that would legalize recreational marijuana — also within the survey’s margin of error. The Florida Chamber of Commerce poll was conducted between April 28 and May 7 by Cherry Communications with 609 likely voters.

More at URL above...

Poster's comment:
Could Florida actually end up with one of the more liberal abortion policies in the country?
One that is "enshrined" right into the state constitution?

Once again, blame it on "Dobbs" -- the gift that keeps on giving -- for THE LEFT, that is.

15 years from now, looking back, rational observers will conclude that "the right to life" was actually BETTER-PROTECTED under Roe, than it will have become under Dobbs...
(please comment to how I'm wrong)
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Cruz chose staying in the Senate the first time @libertybele and will most likely again in Trump's 2nd term.

I must have missed it. What position did Trump offer Cruz in his administration? 
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