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Title: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: mystery-ak on November 04, 2017, 02:02:14 pm
Former President George H.W. Bush says he is not too excited about "blowhard" President Trump and confirmed in a new book that he voted for Hillary Clinton.

“I don’t like him,” Bush, 93, says in the book, according to a review by The New York Times. “I don’t know much about him, but I know he’s a blowhard. And I’m not too excited about him being a leader.”

In the book, titled “The Last Republicans,” the 41st president also revealed that he voted for Trump’s Democrat rival Clinton in the 2016 White House race.

The new book, by author Mark K. Undegrove, consists mostly of interviews about look back at the Republican Party over the past few decades and explores the connection between the elder Bush and his son, former President George W. Bush.

more
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/04/george-h-w-bush-calls-trump-blowhard-in-new-book-dont-like-him.html
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Bigun on November 04, 2017, 02:04:32 pm
Well Sir!  Having closely observed how you did things in your last "campaign" for office, I don't much like you either!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: dfwgator on November 04, 2017, 02:04:40 pm
Because he whupped Jebbie.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: mountaineer on November 04, 2017, 02:12:11 pm
I can try to get past an unpleasant personality when the future of the nation is at stake. Hillary's policies and her personality were noxious. How disappointing that GHWB overlooked that.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: dfwgator on November 04, 2017, 02:15:57 pm
(http://multifiles.pressherald.com/uploads/sites/4/2016/09/1067236_654727-Bush_Clinton.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: massadvj on November 04, 2017, 02:16:40 pm
The Bushes keep their mouth shut in the face of the most vicious vitriol from the left, but are quick to criticize Trump because he offends their country club sensibilities.  It's high time they all got off the stage, along with the Clintons.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Bigun on November 04, 2017, 02:16:52 pm
Because he whupped Jebbie.

Absolutely!  That and he appears not to be toeing the globalist line!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: libertybele on November 04, 2017, 02:17:44 pm
Seriously?? This made Foxnews headlines?  Bush Sr., is a blowhard and a LIAR ... yep ... read my lips... no new taxes... He's been in Hillary's basket of deplorables for quite some time.  I have news for ya Sr., I don't like you. To publicly announce your disdain for a current sitting president shows how despicable you really are and the fact that several women have come forward letting us know that you can't keep your hands on your own pants makes you a disgusting human being.

George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'

Former President George H.W. Bush says he is not too excited about "blowhard" President Trump and confirmed in a new book that he voted for Hillary Clinton.

“I don’t like him,” Bush, 93, says in the book, according to a review by The New York Times. “I don’t know much about him, but I know he’s a blowhard. And I’m not too excited about him being a leader.”

In the book, titled “The Last Republicans,” the 41st president also revealed that he voted for Trump’s Democrat rival Clinton in the 2016 White House race......

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/04/george-h-w-bush-calls-trump-blowhard-in-new-book-dont-like-him.html
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 04, 2017, 02:19:53 pm
I think this is part when someone comes in and says "Wish Ronnie never picked him".
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 04, 2017, 02:21:46 pm
Quote
(http://thepeoplescube.com/images/various_uploads/Bush_Speaks_Against_Trump.jpg)
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/doctors-baffled-as-mute-man-speaks-after-8-years-of-silence-t19780.html

I know, different Bush but I thought this was funny.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: dfwgator on November 04, 2017, 02:28:59 pm
Doesn't he have some women to grope?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Mod2 on November 04, 2017, 02:29:56 pm
Merged two threads.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: endicom on November 04, 2017, 02:53:47 pm
The Bushes keep their mouth shut in the face of the most vicious vitriol from the left, but are quick to criticize Trump because he offends their country club sensibilities.


That's it in a nutshell. They show little sign of understanding the lives of those below their station.


Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: endicom on November 04, 2017, 02:59:17 pm
I know, different Bush but I thought this was funny.


No, he's in there too. Says he voted NOTA. He's been blabbing about white supremacy and immigration and such. He is not in touch with the realities of the majority of Americans.


Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: austingirl on November 04, 2017, 03:11:56 pm
All the Bushes are one-world elitists. I don't like them, either.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 04, 2017, 04:12:09 pm
When are these people ever going to start aiming their weapons down range?  I know the media's doing their best to play up intra-party strife, but Bush's latest isn't a media fabrication, he really thinks this stuff.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 04, 2017, 04:26:37 pm
Thus bolstering the fact that the Bushes are dead to me now.  All of em.  To actually admit to having voted for a commie hag like Hillary just further shows his ignorance.  It runs in the family.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: DCPatriot on November 04, 2017, 04:26:59 pm
(http://i.imgflip.com/1b60y3.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: truth_seeker on November 04, 2017, 05:49:56 pm
Read my lips. No new taxes.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Oceander on November 04, 2017, 06:07:53 pm
That’s what happens when the party of stupid becomes the party of really stupid and runs an epic disaster like Trump as president.
Title: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 04, 2017, 06:16:21 pm
George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'

2 hours ago  FOX News — FoxNews.com

Former President George H.W. Bush says he is not too excited about "blowhard" President Trump and confirmed in a new book that he voted for Hillary Clinton.

“I don’t like him,” Bush, 93, says in the book, according to a review by The New York Times. “I don’t know much about him, but I know he’s a blowhard. And I’m not too excited about him being a leader.”

In the book, titled “The Last Republicans,” the 41st president also revealed that he voted for Trump’s Democrat rival Clinton in the 2016 White House race.

The new book, by author Mark K. Undegrove, consists mostly of interviews looking back at the Republican Party over the past few decades and explores the connection between the elder Bush and his son, former President George W. Bush.


http://start.att.net/news/read/article/fox_news-george_hw_bush_calls_trump_a_blowhard_in_new_book-rfoxnews

I guess he isn't too old to write books and grope women.  Exposing why I ended up not liking the Bush family very much.  The fact that they are full on amnesty globalists.  Good friends of the low life Clintons.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 04, 2017, 06:20:31 pm
George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'

2 hours ago  FOX News — FoxNews.com

Former President George H.W. Bush says he is not too excited about "blowhard" President Trump and confirmed in a new book that he voted for Hillary Clinton.

“I don’t like him,” Bush, 93, says in the book, according to a review by The New York Times. “I don’t know much about him, but I know he’s a blowhard. And I’m not too excited about him being a leader.”

In the book, titled “The Last Republicans,” the 41st president also revealed that he voted for Trump’s Democrat rival Clinton in the 2016 White House race.

The new book, by author Mark K. Undegrove, consists mostly of interviews looking back at the Republican Party over the past few decades and explores the connection between the elder Bush and his son, former President George W. Bush.


http://start.att.net/news/read/article/fox_news-george_hw_bush_calls_trump_a_blowhard_in_new_book-rfoxnews

I guess he isn't too old to write books and grope women.  Exposing why I ended up not liking the Bush family very much.  The fact that they are full on amnesty globalists.  Good friends of the low life Clintons.

I still love both Bush presidents.  But Daddy Bush seems to be harder to quiet down than Trump.  Someone pried that statement out of him for publicity.

He doesn't say anything that nasty or untrue about Trump.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 04, 2017, 06:30:24 pm
I still love both Bush presidents.  But Daddy Bush seems to be harder to quiet down than Trump.  Someone pried that statement out of him for publicity.

He doesn't say anything that nasty or untrue about Trump.

I understand you now.  Its about worship not reality.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTbuJwXCYAEQ4kT.jpg:large)

(https://cdn.someecards.com/posts/george-w-bush-hillary-clinton-photo-twitter-IO1.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on November 04, 2017, 06:30:43 pm
I still love both Bush presidents.  But Daddy Bush seems to be harder to quiet down than Trump. Someone pried that statement out of him for publicity.

He doesn't say anything that nasty or untrue about Trump.

I believe it's due to his age. My dad is the same age as GHW and they both seem to say whatever pops into their head.  I read an article today (can't find it now) saying that comes with age.  I guess that's my problem too. 
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: mystery-ak on November 04, 2017, 06:34:21 pm
Both of them need to keep their mouth shut.....I would feel differently if they had been this vocal about Obama but it seems everything he did was okay.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 04, 2017, 06:35:48 pm
Active thread here with lots of discussion:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,289573.0.html


@Machiavelli
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 04, 2017, 06:38:57 pm
The Bushes keep their mouth shut in the face of the most vicious vitriol from the left, but are quick to criticize Trump because he offends their country club sensibilities.  It's high time they all got off the stage, along with the Clintons.

 :thumbsup2: :thumbsup2: :thumbsup2:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 04, 2017, 06:49:50 pm
(https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2016/02/Screenshot-2016-02-16-at-12.41.47-PM.png)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 04, 2017, 06:58:13 pm
I understand you now.  Its about worship not reality.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTbuJwXCYAEQ4kT.jpg:large)

(https://cdn.someecards.com/posts/george-w-bush-hillary-clinton-photo-twitter-IO1.jpg)

If only you did.  Hah.  What did I say that indicated worship to you?  I said I liked them.

Also it infuriates me that they have become such easy targets on TBR.  Everyone criticized them for not speaking and now people are criticizing them for a book with a few quotes dug out that show how old GHWB is.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 04, 2017, 07:00:30 pm
Both of them need to keep their mouth shut.....I would feel differently if they had been this vocal about Obama but it seems everything he did was okay.

Thank you for moving my thread.  I didn't realize there already was one.

Good point.  I don't remember criticism of Obama either. 
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 04, 2017, 07:02:06 pm
All the Bushes are one-world elitists. I don't like them, either.

Me either.  You are right the goal is one world.  Makes me wonder about the wars.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: mystery-ak on November 04, 2017, 07:04:59 pm
http://nypost.com/2017/11/04/white-house-slams-bushes-for-iraq-war-after-blowhard-dig/
White House slams Bushes for Iraq War after ‘blowhard’ dig
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 04, 2017, 07:30:18 pm
   That had been rumoured before, the hellary Vote thing, maybe it was Barbara or Laura, but now what littler respect I had left for GHWB has dissipated. 
   Another sad reminder that as I slip further and further into my twilight years, I'm apt to say or do really stupid $hit.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 04, 2017, 07:35:53 pm
   That had been rumoured before, the hellary Vote thing, maybe it was Barbara or Laura, but now what littler respect I had left for GHWB has dissipated. 
   Another sad reminder that as I slip further and further into my twilight years, I'm apt to say or do really stupid $hit.

Actually, if that is a recent picture in your avatar, I think you look very good. Don't be so humble.

@corbe
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 04, 2017, 07:40:43 pm
   That's the woman I chase in my Dreams @TomSea, never catch her but it's probably best, she'd just take my furniture and cars,  again.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 04, 2017, 07:51:55 pm
Every single ex-President voted against Donny. That makes Trump an even better President than I thought.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 04, 2017, 08:16:18 pm
It's pretty well documented, the Bushes do not like Cruz either.  Or at least, Dubya:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-reportedly-ted-cruz-dont-guy/story?id=34604244

Stories are going around, that both Bush 41 and 43 have just come out with books negative on Trump.

It's their dynasty, the GOP shouldn't be for the Bushes, the Democratic party should not be for the Clintons and Obamas. Heaven help us!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 04, 2017, 08:19:31 pm
It's pretty well documented, the Bushes do not like Cruz either.

Jeb was such a failure.  I think that was established very early on that people did not want another Bush.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 04, 2017, 08:28:59 pm
Jeb was such a failure.  I think that was established very early on that people did not want another Bush.

Jeb could never have gotten the nomination and it wasn't just the legacy thing.

But I think the Bushes have been remarkably silent about Trump.  He was utterly vicious to the whole family when he was running and he no hesitation to lie about them.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: libertybele on November 04, 2017, 08:39:57 pm
I still love both Bush presidents.  But Daddy Bush seems to be harder to quiet down than Trump.  Someone pried that statement out of him for publicity.

He doesn't say anything that nasty or untrue about Trump.

You are of course entitled to your opinion.  That fact remains that Bush Sr. was instrumental in the Uranium one deal, that turned into a full blown scandal with the Clintons. The fact remains that it was Bush Sr., who drafted NAFTA and was then signed into law by Clinton.    The fact still remains that had he declined to allow our troops to go all the way into Bagdhad as Powell advised him to during the first Gulf War ... perhaps if he had the attack on 9-11 may have never happened. 

With all that being said where was his "opinion" on Secy Clinton in Benghazi and the loss of 4 dead Americans?  Where was his "opinion" on Bammy?  He remained silent until now.  He's opening his mouth because Trump ended the control of the Bush dynasty by easily defeating Jeb! and he could very well bring down the Clinton dynasty as well.  The control of the Bush/Clinton dynasty has been unraveled...though their corruption is still embedded in our government.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: truth_seeker on November 04, 2017, 08:45:20 pm

I believe it would be fair to postulate the entire Bush family does not like Reagan, Goldwater, the Tea Party, Pat Buchanan or Trump.

OTOH they like most democrats. They are probably the single biggest creators of the modern Swamp, from the GOP side.

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 04, 2017, 08:53:04 pm


You can post all the pictures you want, Frank, but don't forget there was a time when Presidents were collegial.  Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him.

Everybody doesn't have to be mean as a snake to be president.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 04, 2017, 08:54:03 pm
I believe it would be fair to postulate the entire Bush family does not like Reagan, Goldwater, the Tea Party, Pat Buchanan or Trump.

OTOH they like most democrats. They are probably the single biggest creators of the modern Swamp, from the GOP side.

That is a singularly idiotic thing to say.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 04, 2017, 08:59:22 pm
You are of course entitled to your opinion.  That fact remains that Bush Sr. was instrumental in the Uranium one deal, that turned into a full blown scandal with the Clintons. The fact remains that it was Bush Sr., who drafted NAFTA and was then signed into law by Clinton.    The fact still remains that had he declined to allow our troops to go all the way into Bagdhad as Powell advised him to during the first Gulf War ... perhaps if he had the attack on 9-11 may have never happened. 

With all that being said where was his "opinion" on Secy Clinton in Benghazi and the loss of 4 dead Americans?  Where was his "opinion" on Bammy?  He remained silent until now.  He's opening his mouth because Trump ended the control of the Bush dynasty by easily defeating Jeb! and he could very well bring down the Clinton dynasty as well.  The control of the Bush/Clinton dynasty has been unraveled...though their corruption is still embedded in our government.

Bush pumped the American people on war following 9/11.  We were on board to take out the terrorists and Saddam.

Had the American people more fully understood Islam and its wars who knows if he would have had such wide support.  But Clintons and the U.N. had also failed miserably giving fuel to the fire.

Failed sanctions, no fly zones and U.N oil for food corruption.

https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/170-sanctions/41952.html

I think we were suckered.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on November 04, 2017, 09:00:03 pm
Thank you 'Deaf, Dumb, and Blind so long as it was Obama', Bush Junior, too, for 2 wars on 2 fronts you never had any intention of winning.

Might have upset the Saudi Royals if they thought you were serious.

http://reason.com/archives/2009/01/26/bush-was-a-big-government-disa

(https://yospace-cds1.reuters.com/u/resize~ad1~1200/0/f/~image_jpeg~9999-1/1/m/5/p/x/c/aehb/reuters04?videoId=114565740)

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 04, 2017, 09:14:32 pm
That fact remains that Bush Sr. was instrumental in the Uranium one deal, that turned into a full blown scandal with the Clintons.

Not finding a story about that.  Link?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 04, 2017, 09:17:26 pm
You can post all the pictures you want, Frank, but don't forget there was a time when Presidents were collegial.  Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him.

Everybody doesn't have to be mean as a snake to be president.

If I have a choice between having a swell guy and a nice speaker who sets policy in place to destroy the country and a foul mouthed, combative jerk President who does his damnedest to remove regulations and expand freedom, I'll take the jerk any day of the week.

I have a hell of a lot more respect for Donny than either of the two POS Bush clowns. I actually have more respect for Carter over the Bush's because he was just a dumb eff who didn't have a clue. The Bush's knew exactly what they were doing. Tehy even brag that in this retarded interview.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 04, 2017, 09:20:29 pm
That is a singularly idiotic thing to say.

I don't know if you were alive for the '80 GOP Primary, but Bush despised Reagan. Remember the Left's rallying cry all through the 80's about "Voodoo Economics"? That was a Bush line in one of the Primarie debates. Bush was a nasty little shit who thought he was owed that election.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: catfish1957 on November 04, 2017, 09:29:27 pm
GHWB.... 

I voted for you 4 times '80,'84,'88,92.

Can't you keep your trap shut at the end of your senile life?

Every article, I see, I seem to like him less.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: aligncare on November 04, 2017, 09:30:50 pm
If I have a choice between having a swell guy and a nice speaker who sets policy in place to destroy the country and a foul mouthed, combative jerk President who does his damnedest to remove regulations and expand freedom, I'll take the jerk any day of the week.

I have a hell of a lot more respect for Donny than either of the two POS Bush clowns. I actually have more respect for Carter over the Bush's because he was just a dumb eff who didn't have a clue. The Bush's knew exactly what they were doing. Tehy even brag that in this retarded interview.

I think Trump had the exact right tone and attitude going up against the swamp. Were he just another mealy mouthed republican politician he would have been eaten alive by the swamp creatures.

I hope he never changes.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 04, 2017, 09:35:01 pm
I think Trump had the exact right tone and attitude going up against the swamp. Were he just another mealy mouthed republican politician he would have been eaten alive by the swamp creatures.

I hope he never changes.

Oh could never go there.  Trump is still a liberal President with a liberal family.  He also is friends with the Clintons.  Supported Obama...............  Has his daughter and son in law practically running him.


modified to show how Trumps tweet about Newtown supporting President Obama and gun control.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-supported-obama-sandy-hook-massacre-response-calling-gun-control-675369


Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 04, 2017, 09:37:30 pm
Oh could never go there.  Trump is still a liberal President with a liberal family.

Can you point to policies and regulations the Donny put in place that back that claim Bush voter?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: DiogenesLamp on November 04, 2017, 09:38:15 pm
Both of them need to keep their mouth shut.....I would feel differently if they had been this vocal about Obama but it seems everything he did was okay.


Exactly how I feel.  Obama was a case of "Speak now, or forever hold your peace." 


I think they have a lot of gall opening their mouths after Obama.  They can go to H3ll.   
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 04, 2017, 09:42:05 pm
I think Trump had the exact right tone and attitude going up against the swamp. Were he just another mealy mouthed republican politician he would have been eaten alive by the swamp creatures.

I hope he never changes.

(Confidentially, I agree with you.  I hope he doesn't change either.)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 04, 2017, 10:18:27 pm
Can you point to policies and regulations the Donny put in place that back that claim Bush voter?

DACA

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-policies-liberals-like-2017-2/#a-possible-deal-on-daca-7
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 04, 2017, 10:32:33 pm
(Confidentially, I agree with you.  I hope he doesn't change either.)

The law of unintended consequences.  The Bushes should never have let this book be published ... BUT it has succeeded in driving some of the 'on the wall' people into the arms of Donald Trump.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 04, 2017, 10:41:54 pm
DACA is not a done deal yet, I know one candidate want to give out massive green cards and expand the H1B1 visa program and legal residency to illegals. I'm sure if that had been contemplated, folks would say that pleases the liberals too.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 04, 2017, 10:45:40 pm
The law of unintended consequences.  The Bushes should never have let this book be published ... BUT it has succeeded in driving some of the 'on the wall' people into the arms of Donald Trump.

The Bushes are not interested in sowing harmony in the Party, they are only interested in extending their Dynasty within it.  They have no understanding they are driving people to Trump, the thought never entered their collective head.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Silver Pines on November 04, 2017, 11:26:20 pm
Bush is right, and I don't think many here would objectively deny it.  Trump is a blowhard.

But Bush is a groper, and he was one before he went senile and ended up in a wheelchair, so he can't cast stones. 

Politicians aren't role models.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Silver Pines on November 04, 2017, 11:31:21 pm
You can post all the pictures you want, Frank, but don't forget there was a time when Presidents were collegial.  Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him.

Everybody doesn't have to be mean as a snake to be president.

@Emjay

The friendship between Reagan and O'Neill is a myth. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/336185/good-ol-tip (https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/336185/good-ol-tip)

He and O’Neill had some friendly moments: particularly when O’Neill visited Reagan in the hospital after the latter had been shot.

 But look: O’Neill was a nasty piece of work, who constantly slandered and defamed Reagan as a hater of the poor, a warmonger, and an idiot. O’Neill may not have been a warmonger, but he was as ugly a class warrior as we’ve ever had. He was one of the most partisan men who ever lived. To borrow language from another politician, Nixon, shall we flick the scab off the wound?

I heard O’Neill say something a million times: Reagan may have started out poor, sure, but then he started making big money in Hollywood, and resented the taxes taken out of his checks. Plus, he had not “grown” in office, but had clung to the same stupid beliefs he arrived in Washington with.

 Said O’Neill, “He has no concern, no regard, no care for the little man of America, and I understand that: Because of his lifestyle, he never meets those people.” Reagan, according to O’Neill, was “callous,” “a real Ebenezer Scrooge,” “a cheerleader for selfishness.” His administration, said O’Neill, had “made a target of the politically weak, the poor, the working people.” Reagan’s policies were just “one big Christmas party for the rich.”

....Here is O’Neill in 1984: “The evil is in the White House at the present time. And that evil is a man who has no care and no concern for the working class of America and the future generations of America, and who likes to ride a horse. He’s cold. He’s mean. He’s got ice water for blood.”

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 05, 2017, 01:14:27 am
The Bushes are not interested in sowing harmony in the Party, they are only interested in extending their Dynasty within it.  They have no understanding they are driving people to Trump, the thought never entered their collective head.

I said it was 'unintended', didn't I.

I don't think either of the Bushes want to extend their dynasty.  They both left the presidency with class and dignity.

I think Jeb may have been Barbara's favorite and it is rumored that she wished he'd been elected instead of George.

All this Bush hate is hindsight.  We all thought they were doing the right thing at the time and so did they.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 05, 2017, 01:32:47 am
Both of them need to keep their mouth shut.....I would feel differently if they had been this vocal about Obama but it seems everything he did was okay.

Total respect, Mystery.  But THIS vocal?  A bit of a stretch.  This is a few words taken out of a full-length book.  I don't think either Bush has been extremely vocal.  Muted criticism is more like it.

And lashing out at Obama immediately paints one as a racist.  The left has seen to that.

I'm constantly on threads where people are decrying the loss of decency and virtue in society so ..

Instead of class and comity, we now prefer crass and bombastic?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Fishrrman on November 05, 2017, 01:43:03 am
Emjay wrote:
"Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him."

Not so.
O'Neill pretended to be friendly for the sake of appearances, but the truth is he hated Reagan's guts.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Fishrrman on November 05, 2017, 01:44:36 am
Frank Cannon wrote:
"If I have a choice between having a swell guy and a nice speaker who sets policy in place to destroy the country and a foul mouthed, combative jerk President who does his damnedest to remove regulations and expand freedom, I'll take the jerk any day of the week."

Best post of the thread, Frank.

Others set 'em up, but you come along and knock 'em down!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 05, 2017, 01:46:42 am
Emjay wrote:
"Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him."

Not so.
O'Neill pretended to be friendly for the sake of appearances, but the truth is he hated Reagan's guts.

Oh, I know that, Fish.  I'm just saying they maintained the appearance of comity.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 05, 2017, 01:49:14 am
Frank Cannon wrote:
"If I have a choice between having a swell guy and a nice speaker who sets policy in place to destroy the country and a foul mouthed, combative jerk President who does his damnedest to remove regulations and expand freedom, I'll take the jerk any day of the week."

Best post of the thread, Frank.

Others set 'em up, but you come along and knock 'em down!

I don't know who the 'swell guy and nice speaker' Frank has in mind.

But everybody knows I've been a Trump supporter ever since he won.

That does not mean I've lost my mind.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 05, 2017, 01:58:36 am
Every single ex-President voted against Donny. That makes Trump an even better President than I thought.

Of course the Bush family would because they are busy promoting migration.

http://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/north-american-century/benefits-of-immigration-outweigh-costs.html
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on November 05, 2017, 02:02:58 am
You can post all the pictures you want, Frank, but don't forget there was a time when Presidents were collegial.  Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him.

Everybody doesn't have to be mean as a snake to be president.

Emjay, I'm afraid that was another place and time.

Today's Dems are meaner and dirtier and much quicker to bite than those of RWR's day.

They've had it all going their way since Reagan and it's emboldened them considerably.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 02:15:26 am
If only you did.  Hah.  What did I say that indicated worship to you?  I said I liked them.

Also it infuriates me that they have become such easy targets on TBR.  Everyone criticized them for not speaking and now people are criticizing them for a book with a few quotes dug out that show how old GHWB is.

Um.... old man Bush admitted (freely, it wasn't tortured out of him) to having voted for Hillary Effing Clinton.   And that doesn't bother you?   Not even a little?   I'm sure as hell not willing to chalk up his recent voting record admission to senility.... considering how badly he ALSO let us down during his first and only term in office.... when he was much younger.   It's a pattern.  One that I see clearly "now".   Just sayin.....

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Fantom on November 05, 2017, 02:29:55 am


We are talking about the old man with dementia right. Not Dumbya.... his kid, not much better in my view nowdays.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: libertybele on November 05, 2017, 03:56:30 am
Not finding a story about that.  Link?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-complicit-not-just

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 04:01:32 am
DACA

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-policies-liberals-like-2017-2/#a-possible-deal-on-daca-7

So rumors of deals now are the same a signing the Patriot act, enacting the TSA and gutting ICE. Nice try Bushy.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 05, 2017, 04:13:59 am
Um.... old man Bush admitted (freely, it wasn't tortured out of him) to having voted for Hillary Effing Clinton.   And that doesn't bother you?   Not even a little?   I'm sure as hell not willing to chalk up his recent voting record admission to senility.... considering how badly he ALSO let us down during his first and only term in office.... when he was much younger.   It's a pattern.  One that I see clearly "now".   Just sayin.....


I wish he hadn't done that, but let's face it.  A lot of our merry band of brothers here voted for Hillary.

Maybe not literally, but by sanctimoniously refusing to vote for Trump and voting for some obscure third or fourth party candidate, they were voting for Hillary.

I've read many, many posts to that effect, especially shortly after the election.

It's died down now because Trump has been a good president but it happened.

And, yes, I do cut 93-year-olds some slack.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 04:24:50 am

I wish he hadn't done that, but let's face it.  A lot of our merry band of brothers here voted for Hillary.

Maybe not literally, but by sanctimoniously refusing to vote for Trump and voting for some obscure third or fourth party candidate, they were voting for Hillary.

I've read many, many posts to that effect, especially shortly after the election.

It's died down now because Trump has been a good president but it happened.

And, yes, I do cut 93-year-olds some slack.

What a load of shit, coming from the woman who on election night was wishing for Hillary to win instead of Trump. 
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 04:30:55 am
What a load of shit, coming from the woman who on election night was wishing for Hillary to win instead of Trump.

Oh shit. Here we go. I better get a beer and a sandwich for this one.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 04:36:38 am
Oh shit. Here we go. I better get a beer and a sandwich for this one.

I'm so glad you're entertained by my straightening out nonsense.  Some of us don't take kindly to some of that bullshit being unloaded that is intended to impugn the integrity of other members.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 04:48:14 am
I'm so glad you're entertained by my straightening out nonsense.  Some of us don't take kindly to some of that bullshit being unloaded that is intended to impugn the integrity of other members.


You go sister. Just cracked my beer.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 04:53:59 am

You go sister. Just cracked my beer.

I have a suggestion for what you can do with the bottle, you don't even need to wait until it's empty.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 04:56:55 am
I have a suggestion for what you can do with the bottle, you don't even need to wait until it's empty.

Use a coaster?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 04:58:28 am
Use a coaster?

That too.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 05:10:19 am
That too.

Well good. I thought you were telling me something far more different.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: DCPatriot on November 05, 2017, 12:31:59 pm
Judy Michigan Mom Retweeted
#ExNFLFan‏ @RESET_2017

Jeb Bush's campaign manager, Kim Fritts, is also the CEO of Uranium One AND the Podesta Group.
Drain this sewer now!

http://twitter.com/GeorgWebb/status/925673388877733889 (http://twitter.com/GeorgWebb/status/925673388877733889)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on November 05, 2017, 01:05:25 pm
Every single ex-President voted against Donny. That makes Trump an even better President than I thought.

Wait a minute.  Are you trying to say dead people vote Democrap?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Silver Pines on November 05, 2017, 01:12:45 pm

I wish he hadn't done that, but let's face it.  A lot of our merry band of brothers here voted for Hillary.

Maybe not literally, but by sanctimoniously refusing to vote for Trump and voting for some obscure third or fourth party candidate, they were voting for Hillary.

I've read many, many posts to that effect, especially shortly after the election.

It's died down now because Trump has been a good president but it happened.

And, yes, I do cut 93-year-olds some slack.

@Emjay

Nah, you just fangirl over your favorite politicians, that's all.  They can do no wrong.  No different from the hardcore Trump worshippers.

As for voting for Hillary, it's impossible to figuratively do so.  You literally do it, or not at all.  That part of your post is one of the dumbest things I've read here.

The rest of it is pure, oozing hypocrisy and projection.  It's been shown, in stark black and white, that you were the only one entertaining the idea of casting a vote for her. 

So just sit down.

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Bigun on November 05, 2017, 01:50:05 pm

I wish he hadn't done that, but let's face it.  A lot of our merry band of brothers here voted for Hillary.

Maybe not literally, but by sanctimoniously refusing to vote for Trump and voting for some obscure third or fourth party candidate, they were voting for Hillary.

I've read many, many posts to that effect, especially shortly after the election.

It's died down now because Trump has been a good president but it happened.

And, yes, I do cut 93-year-olds some slack.

BS!  100% USDA Choice!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: DCPatriot on November 05, 2017, 02:04:40 pm
@Emjay

Nah, you just fangirl over your favorite politicians, that's all.  They can do no wrong.  No different from the hardcore Trump worshippers.

As for voting for Hillary, it's impossible to figuratively do so.  You literally do it, or not at all.  That part of your post is one of the dumbest things I've read here.

The rest of it is pure, oozing hypocrisy and projection.  It's been shown, in stark black and white, that you were the only one entertaining the idea of casting a vote for her. 

So just sit down.

She's not wrong at all, @CatherineofAragon

And all the mandates of owners and/or moderators to the contrary (to keep any semblance of peace on the threads) won't change that fact.

@Emjay has MORE than 'acquitted' herself, since last Nov 8th in her postings defending and/or praising the President. 

YOU, OTOH??

Am outraged that you're able to get away with viciously attacking/insulting her person (and loyal Trump supporters)...in your typical haughty fashion.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Bigun on November 05, 2017, 02:13:38 pm
She's not wrong at all, @CatherineofAragon

And all the mandates of owners and/or moderators to the contrary (to keep any semblance of peace on the threads) won't change that fact.

@Emjay has MORE than 'acquitted' herself, since last Nov 8th in her postings defending and/or praising the President. 

YOU, OTOH??

Am outraged that you're able to get away with viciously attacking/insulting her person (and loyal Trump supporters)...in your typical haughty fashion.

And YOU are STILL FOS!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: DCPatriot on November 05, 2017, 02:23:10 pm
And YOU are STILL FOS!

  :blank:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 02:30:03 pm

I wish he hadn't done that, but let's face it.  A lot of our merry band of brothers here voted for Hillary.

Maybe not literally, but by sanctimoniously refusing to vote for Trump and voting for some obscure third or fourth party candidate, they were voting for Hillary.

I've read many, many posts to that effect, especially shortly after the election.

It's died down now because Trump has been a good president but it happened.

And, yes, I do cut 93-year-olds some slack.


Bullshit.   I voted 3rd party too..... so now you're attempting to say that "I" voted for Hillary too?

Absolute bullshit.   And.... if I HAD voted for the wretch.... I sure as hell wouldn't be bragging about it or admitting it afterwards.  That would show just how far left I really was.....just as it exposes old man Bush.  Your attempt to defend Herbert has failed.  Miserably.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 02:33:02 pm
She's not wrong at all, @CatherineofAragon

And all the mandates of owners and/or moderators to the contrary (to keep any semblance of peace on the threads) won't change that fact.

@Emjay has MORE than 'acquitted' herself, since last Nov 8th in her postings defending and/or praising the President. 

YOU, OTOH??

Am outraged that you're able to get away with viciously attacking/insulting her person (and loyal Trump supporters)...in your typical haughty fashion.

The irony here is no doubt lost on you.... that you are defending Emjay.... who is defending Bush.... who is attacking Trump.   You just can't make this chit up.   :silly:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Bigun on November 05, 2017, 02:33:30 pm

Bullshit.   I voted 3rd party too..... so now you're attempting to say that "I" voted for Hillary too?

Absolute bullshit.   And.... if I HAD voted for the wretch.... I sure as hell wouldn't be bragging about it or admitting it afterwards.  That would show just how far left I really was.....just as it exposes old man Bush.  Your attempt to defend Herbert has failed.  Miserably.

I don't understand why it is SO damned important for some here to sell this FALSE meme!  My voting for someone other than Trump was NOT, and never will be, a vote FOR Hillary! 

Continuing to push that crap at this point is insanity!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 02:36:33 pm
I don't understand why it is SO damned important for some here to sell this FALSE meme!  My voting for someone other than Trump was NOT, and never will be, a vote FOR Hillary! 

Continuing to push that crap at this point is insanity!

It is also illogical, nonsensical and downright dishonest....lol.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Silver Pines on November 05, 2017, 02:40:07 pm
She's not wrong at all, @CatherineofAragon

And all the mandates of owners and/or moderators to the contrary (to keep any semblance of peace on the threads) won't change that fact.

@Emjay has MORE than 'acquitted' herself, since last Nov 8th in her postings defending and/or praising the President. 

YOU, OTOH??

Am outraged that you're able to get away with viciously attacking/insulting her person (and loyal Trump supporters)...in your typical haughty fashion.

@DCPatriot

Stifle your outrage and get back to me if I ever refer to her as a bitch.  Okay?  (I personally don't view it as an insult, but most would, objectively).

I didn't name anyone in my post---just made note of the fact that there are hardcore Trump worshippers.  I wasn't even necessarily referring to this forum.  So why are you yelping?   :laugh:

I won't get into the obvious problematic issue of loyalty to politicians/government employees/public servants.


Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on November 05, 2017, 02:49:04 pm
I don't understand why it is SO damned important for some here to sell this FALSE meme!  My voting for someone other than Trump was NOT, and never will be, a vote FOR Hillary! 

Continuing to push that crap at this point is insanity!

I voted for Castle, which means I voted for both Trump and HRC, because I didn't vote for Stein.

Math is hard.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 05, 2017, 03:03:34 pm
Very proud I voted for Trump, I didn't abandon social conservative issues, 2nd amendment rights, etc. and we take a victory lap on this and anything else that improves.  We have saved the nation. The last 3 presidents caused a mess on foreign policy like with North Korea. Oh, yes, voting to preserve ideological purity, that's really impressive.

Mods are going to close this, it's gotten too negative.

DCPatriot is correct.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: ConstitutionRose on November 05, 2017, 03:04:30 pm
I don't know why this is even in the news, much less a topic of discussion.  The family should keep the elder President Bush away from reporters and strangers for obvious reasons. 

Trump is a blow hard.  Some people like that about him.  Pretending Trump is something other than what he is makes no sense.  He certainly doesn't pretend to be something other than himself. 

I think the tendency to fasten onto small, meaningless things is a distraction from the important issues.  The press sure does love pitching this stuff out there there and watching the feeding frenzy.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 05, 2017, 03:08:19 pm
I don't know why this is even in the news, much less a topic of discussion.  The family should keep the elder President Bush away from reporters and strangers for obvious reasons. 

Trump is a blow hard.  Some people like that about him.  Pretending Trump is something other than what he is makes no sense.  He certainly doesn't pretend to be something other than himself. 

I think the tendency to fasten onto small, meaningless things is a distraction from the important issues.  The press sure does love pitching this stuff out there there and watching the feeding frenzy.

Well, in this case, Bush wrote a book.

I guess being a blowhard is better than being a blowsoft.    :silly:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 05, 2017, 03:18:35 pm
She's not wrong at all, @CatherineofAragon

And all the mandates of owners and/or moderators to the contrary (to keep any semblance of peace on the threads) won't change that fact.

@Emjay has MORE than 'acquitted' herself, since last Nov 8th in her postings defending and/or praising the President. 

YOU, OTOH??

Am outraged that you're able to get away with viciously attacking/insulting her person (and loyal Trump supporters)...in your typical haughty fashion.

QFT.

In the end, we need to respect everyone's opinion. That's important. Senator Cotton was saying that about one of those Republican Senators like Susan Collins. How he deeply disagreed with her position on the Healthcare bill but still respected the opinion.

 888high58888
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 03:23:55 pm
She's not wrong at all, @CatherineofAragon

And all the mandates of owners and/or moderators to the contrary (to keep any semblance of peace on the threads) won't change that fact.

@Emjay has MORE than 'acquitted' herself, since last Nov 8th in her postings defending and/or praising the President. 

YOU, OTOH??

bAm outraged that you're able to get away with viciously attacking/insulting her person (and loyal Trump supporters)...in your typical haughty fashion.

Why?  Because you want to be the only one able to get away with it? 
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Sanguine on November 05, 2017, 03:48:57 pm
QFT.

In the end, we need to respect everyone's opinion. That's important. Senator Cotton was saying that about one of those Republican Senators like Susan Collins. How he deeply disagreed with her position on the Healthcare bill but still respected the opinion.

 888high58888

Sorry, Tom, but respect is earned.  Some opinions just aren't worthy of respect.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Mod1 on November 05, 2017, 03:49:48 pm
Good morning all.  Lively conversation.  Keep it clean and above the belt.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 05, 2017, 04:03:30 pm

I wish he hadn't done that, but let's face it.  A lot of our merry band of brothers here voted for Hillary.

Maybe not literally, but by sanctimoniously refusing to vote for Trump and voting for some obscure third or fourth party candidate, they were voting for Hillary.

I've read many, many posts to that effect, especially shortly after the election.

It's died down now because Trump has been a good president but it happened.

And, yes, I do cut 93-year-olds some slack.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdhkE_gch_s5Nkb_rI62CRuxn4J915xh-fZEHMS9f1RunNwRhTbg)

Have to work hard to stay up there

I am proud I didn't vote for either.  For once in my voting life I stuck to my principles.  I voted for Romney and McCain even though I had to choke the vote out.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Emjay on November 05, 2017, 04:13:02 pm
I really struck a never here, apparently.  I think I had one defender.  Sweet.

When I said that people who were driven to insanity because a 93 year old man voted for Hillary were being hypocrites because dozens of people here gave Hillary at least one-half vote by either not voting or voting for a third party loser it kinda hit home, didn't it?

Well, jump on me all you want.  Have fun.  But I won't see it.  I'm going to church.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 04:13:22 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdhkE_gch_s5Nkb_rI62CRuxn4J915xh-fZEHMS9f1RunNwRhTbg)

Have to work hard to stay up there

I am proud I didn't vote for either.  For once in my voting life I stuck to my principles.  I voted for Romney and McCain even though I had to choke the vote out.

Speaking of choke.... over the years....

I have had to choke on the FACT that I actually voted for that ahole McCain.

Never (and I do mean never).... again.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 04:14:27 pm
I really struck a never here, apparently.  I think I had one defender.  Sweet.

When I said that people who were driven to insanity because a 93 year old man voted for Hillary were being hypocrites because dozens of people here gave Hillary at least one-half vote by either not voting or voting for a third party loser it kinda hit home, didn't it?

Well, jump on me all you want.  Have fun.  But I won't see it. I'm going to church.

VERY wise decision on your part!    :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 05, 2017, 04:17:50 pm
Speaking of choke.... over the years....

I have had to choke on the FACT that I actually voted for that ahole McCain.

Never (and I do mean never).... again.

me either.  I would rather not vote than vote for someone that makes me choke.  That is where I was at this election.  Just had to say no.  It was about morals.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 05, 2017, 04:18:39 pm
Proud to have voted for Trump, people like Ben Shapiro and indeed Michael Medved, who speak about defending life are nothing but big phonies to me because they were anti-Trumpers and would have continued us on the road Obama put us on.  They talk the talk but don't do the walk, now, they can do nothing but try and pounce on any perceived weakness they see in Trump.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 04:20:20 pm
I really struck a never here, apparently.  I think I had one defender.  Sweet.

When I said that people who were driven to insanity because a 93 year old man voted for Hillary were being hypocrites because dozens of people here gave Hillary at least one-half vote by either not voting or voting for a third party loser it kinda hit home, didn't it?

Well, jump on me all you want.  Have fun.  But I won't see it.  I'm going to church.

Says the woman who wished Hillary would win *and* didn't vote.  So much funny I don't know which to laugh at first.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Concerned on November 05, 2017, 04:26:43 pm
I had thought that Trump’s words and actions might make me come to regret my write-in vote.  I had hoped that Trump would bring a fresh, creative perspective to legislative negotiations and compromise (e.g., ObamaCare repeal and replace).    I had hoped that he would cherish and respect the office of the Presidency, grow into the office, and drop the childish name-calling, petty bickering, and personal attacks.  I had hoped that he would be a stand-up leader of the Republican Party, and be someone the party could unify around.  Instead, I have no regrets about my write-in vote and believe he really is simply the “blowhard” that Bush labeled him as.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 04:30:51 pm
Proud to have voted for Trump, people like Ben Shapiro and indeed Michael Medved, who speak about defending life are nothing but big phonies to me because they were anti-Trumpers and would have continued us on the road Obama put us on.  They talk the talk but don't do the walk, now, they can do nothing but try and pounce on any perceived weakness they see in Trump.

You mean.... kinda like Bush Sr. is doing or has done in his "book".... which is being defended by certain folks that you apparently agree with here in this very same thread?

Irony. 
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 04:33:05 pm
   I'm not posting with all these Mods swarming around, It would be an incredible boring Sunday if I get kicked in the butt this early.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 04:33:12 pm
Says the woman who wished Hillary would win *and* didn't vote.  So much funny I don't know which to laugh at first.

Accusing those of us that did not vote for Trump of having, in effect, voted for Hillary is mere projection on her part, IMO.   She is accusing us of what she, herself, did and apparently feels guilty about.   That's my take on it.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 04:34:18 pm
   I'm not posting with all these Mods swarming around, It would be an incredible boring Sunday if I get kicked in the butt this early.

Ah hell, livealittle.  Go fer it.  It's Sunday.

You can always go to church 'after'....lololol!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 04:37:02 pm
Accusing those of us that did not vote for Trump of having, in effect, voted for Hillary is mere projection on her part, IMO.   She is accusing us of what she, herself, did and apparently feels guilty about.   That's my take on it.

Maybe, but I think it's just trolling.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Mod2 on November 05, 2017, 04:40:27 pm
Hi all, it's me, Mod2.  I thought we'd straightened this crapola out about calling people who did not vote for Trump "Hillary voters."  Water under the bridge and all that.

One more time:  There are no Hillary voters here.  Stop calling them that and people will stop defending themselves from that personal attack.

More to the point:  Mod1 is nice, I am not.  If we don't drop this unpleasant aspect of the Trump Wars I'm locking this damned thread, and I may or may not unlock it later.

Thanks for your attention.
Mod2
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: catfish1957 on November 05, 2017, 04:46:12 pm
nder the bridge and all that.

One more time:  There are no Hillary voters here.  Stop calling them that and people will stop defending themselves from that personal attack.



Thank you.  A resident Mother Superior's modus operandi .....  and she uses this tactic routinely, and typically without repercussions.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Silver Pines on November 05, 2017, 04:47:33 pm

@TomSea

Quote
In the end, we need to respect everyone's opinion. That's important.

Yes, like whom they vote for.  Without mewling about ideological purity.

I can't quite make out whether you forget what you post as soon as it leaves your keyboard, or if you just don't understand what you're saying.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Silver Pines on November 05, 2017, 04:54:53 pm
Proud to have voted for Trump, people like Ben Shapiro and indeed Michael Medved, who speak about defending life are nothing but big phonies to me because they were anti-Trumpers and would have continued us on the road Obama put us on.  They talk the talk but don't do the walk, now, they can do nothing but try and pounce on any perceived weakness they see in Trump.

@TomSea

"in the end, we have to respect everyone's opinion.  That's important."

-----some guy
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 04:57:38 pm
@TomSea

"in the end, we have to respect everyone's opinion.  That's important."

-----some guy

I actually do respect everyone's opinion.   But I also respect my right to question their opinion when they are dead wrong and stuckonstupid.

 :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 04:59:19 pm
   As someone mentioned up thread, Trump's in Good Company GHWB thinks this guy is a 'blowhard' too.

(https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Screen-Shot-2015-03-26-at-1.39.39-PM.png)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: bigheadfred on November 05, 2017, 04:59:21 pm
Hi all, it's me, Mod2.  I thought we'd straightened this crapola out about calling people who did not vote for Trump "Hillary voters."  Water under the bridge and all that.

One more time:  There are no Hillary voters here.  Stop calling them that and people will stop defending themselves from that personal attack.

More to the point:  Mod1 is nice, I am not.  If we don't drop this unpleasant aspect of the Trump Wars I'm locking this damned thread, and I may or may not unlock it later.

Thanks for your attention.
Mod2

Here I was all proud of the fact that since I voted third party I voted for POTUS three times and now people are saying that isn't true. Pretty disheartening.

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: truth_seeker on November 05, 2017, 05:02:08 pm
Soon after voting for Ross Perot in 1992, I sobered up, had a "what did I do?" revelation, noticed Bush and Perot NOT in office, and began a process of maturing politically.

Since then the GOP has run Dole, McCain and Romney--all lost. But I voted for them, and would do so again.

The democrats love when "conservatives" split their votes. They chuckle over the "virtue signaling," moral protestations, etc.

Trump is doing most of the conservative governance, that conservatives have said they wanted over the previous election cycles.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 05:03:48 pm
    Your a slacker @bigheadfred some democraps in Illinois voted 5 times and they were dead.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 05, 2017, 05:05:47 pm
Here I was all proud of the fact that since I voted third party I voted for POTUS three times and now people are saying that isn't true. Pretty disheartening.

Be of good cheer, Fred:  No matter what happens we can't blame you for it.   :laugh:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 05:07:20 pm
Soon after voting for Ross Perot in 1992, I sobered up, had a "what did I do?" revelation, noticed Bush and Perot NOT in office, and began a process of maturing politically.

Since then the GOP has run Dole, McCain and Romney--all lost. But I voted for them, and would do so again.

The democrats love when "conservatives" split their votes. They chuckle over the "virtue signaling," moral protestations, etc.

Trump is doing most of the conservative governance, that conservatives have said they wanted over the previous election cycles.

That said.... even though I don't agree with everything Trump says and does (still)....  I would probably vote for him in 2020 .....

IF something dire doesn't happen, IF he doesn't lurch left and IF things continue to improve (economy, jobs, national defense, etc.) under his policies.  I would be, in effect, voting against the radical left.... which is what I have always done. 

But as far as voting in future for another squish... or worse, another RINO traitor like McCain....

not just no, but HELL NO.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: endicom on November 05, 2017, 05:07:52 pm
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Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: bigheadfred on November 05, 2017, 05:10:16 pm
    Your a slacker @bigheadfred some democraps in Illinois voted 5 times and they were dead.

It is ok. I don't think I could count being a more effective voter as one of life's little joys if I was dead.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: DCPatriot on November 05, 2017, 05:10:34 pm
That said.... even though I don't agree with everything Trump says and does (still)....  I would probably vote for him in 2020 .....

IF something dire doesn't happen, IF he doesn't lurch left and IF things continue to improve (economy, jobs, national defense, etc.) under his policies.  I would be, in effect, voting against the radical left.... which is what I have always done. 

But as far as voting in future for another squish... or worse, another RINO traitor like McCain....

not just no, but HELL NO.

An interesting poll question...

How many members here would go on record as saying they will vote for President Trump in 2020?    


:bolt:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: XenaLee on November 05, 2017, 05:12:34 pm
An interesting poll question...

How many members here would go on record as saying they will vote for President Trump in 2020?    


:bolt:

You would have to include all of those "IFs" in the poll for me to participate.  Just sayin....
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: bigheadfred on November 05, 2017, 05:13:07 pm
An interesting poll question...

How many members here would go on record as saying they will vote for President Trump in 2020?    


:bolt:

Does HE have to be alive to get my vote????
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 05, 2017, 05:14:50 pm
Does HE have to be alive to get my vote????

I'm more concerned you are alive, Fred.  I don't want you voting Dem five times.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 05:19:48 pm
   I can categorically affirm that I will vote for Trump in 2020 (if he runs) ONLY if the democrap has a chance to get Texas's 39 Electoral Votes, otherwise:

                                THE POT PARTY

(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/85000/Willie-Nelson-has-Cannabis-Delirium-85173.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: bigheadfred on November 05, 2017, 05:32:24 pm
I'm more concerned you are alive, Fred.  I don't want you voting Dem five times.

I promise to stay out of Illinois. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 05:34:34 pm
An interesting poll question...

How many members here would go on record as saying they will vote for President Trump in 2020?    


:bolt:

Me.....unless he divorces Melania. Then I'm out.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 05, 2017, 05:34:38 pm
Soon after voting for Ross Perot in 1992, I sobered up, had a "what did I do?" revelation, noticed Bush and Perot NOT in office, and began a process of maturing politically.

Since then the GOP has run Dole, McCain and Romney--all lost. But I voted for them, and would do so again.

The democrats love when "conservatives" split their votes. They chuckle over the "virtue signaling," moral protestations, etc.

Trump is doing most of the conservative governance, that conservatives have said they wanted over the previous election cycles.

The thing about splitting votes is that this election split the Democratic votes also.  Many voted for Trump.  Lots of Conservatives had a problem because Trump and his family have been liberal.  This article is an excellent look at who voted for Trump and why.

Can the Republican Party Keep Trump Democrats?

 Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442347/donald-trumps-election-win-white-democratic-voters-went-republican

by Henry Olsen November 21, 2016 4:00 AM

The voters Trump picked up do not fit neatly into any of the GOP’s pre-Trump factions. The victory of Donald Trump surprised virtually all political observers. Many since have focused on Trump’s record-high 39 percent margin among whites without a college degree. Few have focused on what this means: Trump — and the Republican party — owe the presidency to millions of whites who have largely voted Democratic for years. The implications of that for the future of the Republican party are immense.

Trump’s appeal to white non-college-educated Democrats and independents is clear with even a cursory glance at the election map. Take closely balanced Michigan, which Trump leads as of this writing by 12,000 votes. He carried the state by winning all but eight counties, including historically Democratic places such as Saginaw, Bay, and Gogebic counties. A Republican has not carried the first two since Ronald Reagan in 1984. Gogebic, a 92 percent white county on Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, hasn’t voted for the GOP since 1972.

The pattern is identical in other midwestern states that Trump won narrowly. He carried Wisconsin largely because he won ten white, historically Democratic counties in the southwestern part of the state that even Gore and Kerry won in their races against George W. Bush. Most of these counties had not been carried by the GOP nominee since George H. W. Bush in 1988 or Reagan in 1984; Republicans had not won Pepin and Kenosha since 1972. Trump swept Iowa by winning virtually every eastern county, places that had voted Democratic in every election since 1988. Pennsylvania’s Luzerne County last went Republican in 1988, while Ohio’s Trumbull County had been Democratic since 1972.

These voters do not fit neatly into any of the GOP’s pre-Trump factions. If they were motivated by social conservatism, they would have backed George W. Bush. If tax cuts were important to them, they could have backed any of the GOP’s last four nominees. But Chamber of Commerce Republicans can’t count on their support either. These voters are workers, not bosses, and they view corporate-centric policies with a very jaundiced eye.

Continue:

 Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442347/donald-trumps-election-win-white-democratic-voters-went-republican
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: bilo on November 05, 2017, 06:33:25 pm
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdhkE_gch_s5Nkb_rI62CRuxn4J915xh-fZEHMS9f1RunNwRhTbg)

Have to work hard to stay up there

I am proud I didn't vote for either.  For once in my voting life I stuck to my principles.  I voted for Romney and McCain even though I had to choke the vote out.

I also didn't vote for either. Although, Pres. Trump has been more consistent than I thought he would be in trying to keep his campaign promises. As of now I would vote for him if he runs in 2020.

As for the Bush's it's pretty irritating that they are comfortable coming out and criticizing Pres. Trump but were nowhere to be found as obama exacerbated all the racial and class tensions in this country. One thing that can be said for Pres. Trump is he sure does get the establishment "patrician class" to reveal itself. 
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: bilo on November 05, 2017, 06:35:48 pm
Speaking of choke.... over the years....

I have had to choke on the FACT that I actually voted for that ahole McCain.

Never (and I do mean never).... again.

All we can hope for is that he just goes quietly into the night.

He won't though and I would bet that if he can kill tax reform before his demise he will. What a jerk.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Bigun on November 05, 2017, 07:28:29 pm
That said.... even though I don't agree with everything Trump says and does (still)....  I would probably vote for him in 2020 .....

IF something dire doesn't happen, IF he doesn't lurch left and IF things continue to improve (economy, jobs, national defense, etc.) under his policies.  I would be, in effect, voting against the radical left.... which is what I have always done. 

But as far as voting in future for another squish... or worse, another RINO traitor like McCain....

not just no, but HELL NO.

I have said it already many times but will repeat it again here. I did not vote for Trump in 2016 based on the evidence before me at the time but if he keeps doing as he has done since becoming president I surely will vote for him in 2020 if he still wants the job and I'm still around!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: catfish1957 on November 05, 2017, 07:40:43 pm
I am holding out hope that a strong conservative primaries Trump in 2020.

If Trump gets the nomination, he'll get my vote.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 08:09:06 pm
I am holding out hope that a strong conservative primaries Trump in 2020.

If Trump gets the nomination, he'll get my vote.

   I don't believe there will be a Strong Conservative to challenge him from within the ranks of His GOP, unfortunately it has been ruled out by a 'no floor vote allowed' in 2016.  It will certainly be a CF in 2020 and quite entertaining. 
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Silver Pines on November 05, 2017, 08:19:53 pm
An interesting poll question...

How many members here would go on record as saying they will vote for President Trump in 2020?    


:bolt:

@DCPatriot

Why?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 08:22:59 pm
I am holding out hope that a strong conservative primaries Trump in 2020.

If Trump gets the nomination, he'll get my vote.

LOL. Who's this "Strong Conservative" that is going to Primary a sitting President?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: catfish1957 on November 05, 2017, 08:35:46 pm
LOL. Who's this "Strong Conservative" that is going to Primary a sitting President?

We have almost 3 years to find out.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 08:39:36 pm
We have almost 3 years to find out.

Actually no we don't. If you are going to take on the king you had better be getting your ass in gear now. All the right wing money is flowing fast and hard into Trumps CREEP coffers as we speak.

BTW can you name a couple of these folks that you think are good for this move that are not no name losers that have no name recognition? I can't think of any.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: libertybele on November 05, 2017, 08:40:47 pm
Assuming that Trump runs for re-election and no one any better runs against him, I'll vote for him.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 08:48:05 pm
Actually no we don't. If you are going to take on the king you had better be getting your ass in gear now. All the right wing money is flowing fast and hard into Trumps CREEP coffers as we speak.

BTW can you name a couple of these folks that you think are good for this move that are not no name losers that have no name recognition? I can't think of any.

Finally, you admit he's a creep.  I knew you would come around to my way of thinking.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: truth_seeker on November 05, 2017, 08:50:24 pm
Assuming that Trump runs for re-election and no one any better runs against him, I'll vote for him.

I do NOT think it is likely to find anybody "better" by any rational metric.

A rational metric is success and better policy positions. Trump got himself to the front in the primaries, won and then won the general against an established democrat powerhouse.

If he runs he is the favorite. And nobody on the horizon--NOBODY has the chops to beat him.

Mainstream political operatives (Cruz, Rubio, JebBush, and others in the GOP) would likely not bother to "primary" the sitting GOP Potus, since that action might well have more downside than upside.

The predictable vanity 3rd party cranks of course would, to no avail but possible throwing the election to the opposition like Perot possibly did.

But it is after all called the "stupid party," and nothing would surprise me.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 08:51:24 pm
Finally, you admit he's a creep.  I knew you would come around to my way of thinking.

Creeps are people too you bigot.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 09:01:06 pm
Creeps are people too you bigot.

I'm not a bigot.  I have creep friends too.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 09:07:55 pm
I'm not a bigot.  I have creep friends too.

   To that I can attest @RoosGirl
   You've been my buddy since ya got here and though I am not as creepy as @Frank Cannon, I can have my moments.
   Your biting wit and humour make my sides ache more often than not, it could be my Liver though.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 09:09:28 pm
   To that I can attest @RoosGirl
   You've been my buddy since ya got here and though I am not as creepy as @Frank Cannon, I can have my moments.
   Your biting wit and humour make my sides ache more often than not, it could be my Liver though.

Save your breath. She isn't into chicks so your smooth lines are going nowhere.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: bigheadfred on November 05, 2017, 09:13:50 pm
   To that I can attest @RoosGirl
   You've been my buddy since ya got here and though I am not as creepy as @Frank Cannon, I can have my moments.
   Your biting wit and humour make my sides ache more often than not, it could be my Liver though.

I'm going with the bite marks.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 09:15:50 pm
   To that I can attest @RoosGirl
   You've been my buddy since ya got here and though I am not as creepy as @Frank Cannon, I can have my moments.
   Your biting wit and humour make my sides ache more often than not, it could be my Liver though.

I do bite.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 09:25:07 pm
I do bite.

Literally or figuratively?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 09:25:10 pm
   
I do bite.

    That's another thing I love about you @RoosGirl
   

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 09:27:36 pm
Literally or figuratively?

Transliterally
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 09:38:05 pm
Transliterally

Indubitably
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 09:42:02 pm
Indubitably

You just have to get the last word in don't you.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 09:47:40 pm
You just have to get the last word in don't you.

That's not true.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 10:41:35 pm
   Personally, @RoosGirl  I have already reported his new Avatar to the mods as an affront to NTer's everywhere and if he doesn't change it I'm out of here.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: aligncare on November 05, 2017, 10:42:51 pm

I won’t vote to re-elect Trump because his critics have persuaded me I’ve been wrong about him the whole time. He is nothing but a New York liberal. 

:silly:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 10:43:53 pm
   Personally, @RoosGirl  I have already reported his new Avatar to the mods as an affront to NTer's everywhere and if he doesn't change it I'm out of here.

Whoever you are talking about let me know. Whatever this mystery poster is using for an avatar, I'm using it too.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 05, 2017, 10:47:20 pm
Whoever you are talking about let me know. Whatever this mystery poster is using for an avatar, I'm using it too.

Me three! I haven't been reported to the Mods in almost a week....
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 10:51:02 pm
   Guilty as Charged @aligncare, in my defense being a 'NY Liberal' doesn't necessarily damn you to hell forever but the first 18 months are non negotiable.


   He's my President too, ya know and I do want him to succeed.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 10:57:33 pm
   Every time I look at your new Avatar @Frank Cannon I know your calling us Nt'ers~Drama Queens, it doesn't take a brain scientist to figure this $hit out. It's a trigger and it's highly upsetting and if less people had me on Ignore they would see how you're always making other Briefers Cry.

 :smokin:
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 11:04:02 pm
   Every time I look at your new Avatar @Frank Cannon I know your calling us Nt'ers~Drama Queens, it doesn't take a brain scientist to figure this $hit out. It's a trigger and it's highly upsetting and if less people had me on Ignore they would see how you're always making other Briefers Cry.

 :smokin:

Madonna Voguing is a trigger for you? Thanks for the tip Jackson....

(https://media.giphy.com/media/ITCCpRnznRhFC/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 11:10:03 pm
    Sorry @Frank Cannon I didn't know that was Madonna, I thought it was a clutching pearls thing.


    I paid the rent why are you still in my head?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 05, 2017, 11:12:00 pm
   Every time I look at your new Avatar @Frank Cannon I know your calling us Nt'ers~Drama Queens, it doesn't take a brain scientist to figure this $hit out. It's a trigger and it's highly upsetting and if less people had me on Ignore they would see how you're always making other Briefers Cry.

 :smokin:

I didn't get it but you could be right.  I just thought Frank was dreaming.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 11:15:01 pm
I didn't get it but you could be right.  I just thought Frank was dreaming.

Jesus Christ. Another one who isn't familiar with the biggest pop star in the last 40 years and her smash hit?

People. Get out of the house once in a while and look around at what is going on. It might surprise you.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 11:18:50 pm
Jesus Christ. Another one who isn't familiar with the biggest pop star in the last 40 years and her smash hit?

People. Get out of the house once in a while and look around at what is going on. It might surprise you.

    Actually Frank it scares the $hit out of me, I prefer to stay in and argue with Briefers, including you, current actuarial tables prove I'm on the right course.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 05, 2017, 11:19:24 pm
Jesus Christ. Another one who isn't familiar with the biggest pop star in the last 40 years and her smash hit?

People. Get out of the house once in a while and look around at what is going on. It might surprise you.

What is 'Vogueing'?  I know what they advocate in Teen Vogue, so maybe I don't want to know about the adult version.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 05, 2017, 11:23:20 pm
Jesus Christ. Another one who isn't familiar with the biggest pop star in the last 40 years and her smash hit?

People. Get out of the house once in a while and look around at what is going on. It might surprise you.

Can't blame people for getting confused, Frank.  You show her as a hottie, and we keep seeing her as Skelator.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.74604.1325890307!/img/httpImage/gal-badday-madonna.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 05, 2017, 11:26:13 pm
   This is all I could find, spent the first 5 minutes on Granny's doing like a Virgin, entertaining with filters on or off.

(http://funnytweeter.com/cache/72511.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 05, 2017, 11:29:28 pm
Can't blame people for getting confused, Frank.  You show her as a hottie, and we keep seeing her as Skelator.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.74604.1325890307!/img/httpImage/gal-badday-madonna.jpg)

That looks like heavy drugs.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 05, 2017, 11:33:49 pm
What is 'Vogueing'?  I know what they advocate in Teen Vogue, so maybe I don't want to know about the adult version.

I had a suspicion you were in the over 60 crowd here. Now I have my proof.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: bigheadfred on November 05, 2017, 11:44:39 pm
I had a suspicion you were in the over 60 crowd here. Now I have my proof.

uh huh

Truth be known it is the cultural appropriation from the 20's flapper craze.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 06, 2017, 12:07:25 am
I had a suspicion you were in the over 60 crowd here. Now I have my proof.

No way.  I am young and groovy.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 06, 2017, 12:31:31 am
No way.  I am young and groovy.

Well then the only way you wouldn't know what Voguing was and claim to be young is if you are the evilest of evils....

A Millennial!

(http://libertyviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/millennial.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 06, 2017, 12:40:54 am
Well then the only way you wouldn't know what Voguing was and claim to be young is if you are the evilest of evils....

A Millennial!

(http://libertyviral.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/millennial.jpg)

Jeez, when you're such a bleep you actually dress up like one.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 06, 2017, 12:42:43 am
Jeez, when you're such a bleep you actually dress up like one.

I have no context not knowing what is under the "bleep" to respond.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 06, 2017, 12:45:37 am
I have no context not knowing what is under the "bleep" to respond.

I think you know.  You're just trying to get me to say p***y, but I'm not going to.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 06, 2017, 12:56:30 am
I think you know.  You're just trying to get me to say p***y, but I'm not going to.

"Party" hasn't been banned here. No need to mask that type of talk....yet.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 06, 2017, 01:04:14 am
"Party" hasn't been banned here. No need to mask that type of talk....yet.

As I suspected; you have confirmed that you have absolutely no familiarity with the word I really meant.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 06, 2017, 01:10:19 am
   You can use that 'P' word here @RoosGirl (just don't spell it out) and remove all references of Trump and grabbing, you'll be ok.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 06, 2017, 01:13:31 am
As I suspected; you have confirmed that you have absolutely no familiarity with the word I really meant.

Jeepers. I think you are right Mrs. RoosGirl. My mother says I shouldn't listen to "loose women" anyway so it's just as well.

(http://www.litb.com/eddiesmal.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 06, 2017, 01:34:30 am
Jeepers. I think you are right Mrs. RoosGirl. My mother says I shouldn't listen to "loose women" anyway so it's just as well.

(http://www.litb.com/eddiesmal.jpg)

Run!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dnoelSnVRXo/Tn_cEvROGtI/AAAAAAAAABE/5LcVMr4PZqA/s1600/90603-050-8043E12B.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 06, 2017, 01:50:42 am
   Stop it with the erogenous pics @RoosGirl I'm trying to get some balance back in my Life.

(http://rogeronimo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Masturbation1.jpg)

   Edited to add:  This is an 'Open Thread' at this juncture, we are allowed to 'cut up', right?
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: RoosGirl on November 06, 2017, 02:04:06 am
   Stop it with the erogenous pics @RoosGirl I'm trying to get some balance back in my Life.

(http://rogeronimo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Masturbation1.jpg)

   Edited to add:  This is an 'Open Thread' at this juncture, we are allowed to 'cut up', right?

I see you're a righty.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: corbe on November 06, 2017, 02:26:00 am
   @RoosGirl
   
Quote
I see you're a righty.
That would certainly explain a lot, You up tight Conservative Women are just to much for my dumb azz, I gave up and took the easy way out long ago, I sleep with the stupid lefties, I'm not looking for intelligent political discord or salvation, I just want to get laid.

                      I've always found this chick to be Indubiously HOT!

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f2/42/eb/f242eb6bb2989e3831429a1364e6995e.jpg)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Frank Cannon on November 06, 2017, 02:50:00 am
Run!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dnoelSnVRXo/Tn_cEvROGtI/AAAAAAAAABE/5LcVMr4PZqA/s1600/90603-050-8043E12B.jpg)

I would run to that in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: libertybele on November 06, 2017, 03:15:35 am
Back on topic:

Bush Sr., is only adding fuel to the political fire that's going on in this country. Shame on him! Absolutely shame on him!!
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: TomSea on November 06, 2017, 06:39:36 am
Dubya riled a lot of people with what looked like what was going to be a large amnesty program and people melted the phone lines in protests. Don't give me that we supported him fully back a decade ago.
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: Suppressed on November 06, 2017, 05:25:52 pm
GHWB is evidently a vandal, too...

(https://i.redditmedia.com/vu8GIvzolV_UWTnY0q90lr78rnfIG4QGf6e_oAy6LQQ.jpg?w=500&s=1ce23faed3fb15dae3635dd88ab3997b)
Title: Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
Post by: aligncare on November 06, 2017, 08:39:40 pm
   @RoosGirl
   That would certainly explain a lot, You up tight Conservative Women are just to much for my dumb azz, I gave up and took the easy way out long ago, I sleep with the stupid lefties, I'm not looking for intelligent political discord or salvation, I just want to get laid.

                      I've always found this chick to be Indubiously HOT!

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f2/42/eb/f242eb6bb2989e3831429a1364e6995e.jpg)

Look closer, I think it’s a dude. Or maybe transitioning?