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Title: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: mrclose on January 29, 2014, 03:53:41 am
Republican Texas Rep. Randy Weber tweeted from the House floor that President Obama is a “Socialistic dictator” while waiting for the State of the Union to begin.

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“On floor of house waitin on ‘Kommandant-In-Chef’… the Socialistic dictator who’s been feeding US a line or is it ‘A-Lying?’” Weber tweeted Tuesday night at 8:09 p.m., approximately four hours before Obama’s speech was set to begin.
  :silly:


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/28/congressman-calls-obama-the-socialistic-dictator-on-house-floor/#ixzz2rkuEtFjm
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 29, 2014, 04:03:06 am
Republican Texas Rep. Randy Weber tweeted from the House floor that President Obama is a “Socialistic dictator” while waiting for the State of the Union to begin.
  :silly:


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/28/congressman-calls-obama-the-socialistic-dictator-on-house-floor/#ixzz2rkuEtFjm

Randy Weber is a straight talking tell it like it is kind of guy! We need more like him!
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 29, 2014, 04:05:58 am
Randy Weber is a straight talking tell it like it is kind of guy! We need more like him!

Now that is something I'd liked to hear in the rebuttal.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: DCPatriot on January 29, 2014, 04:09:50 am
It's about damned time!   :beer:
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Atomic Cow on January 29, 2014, 04:18:07 am
Oh boy, this will be the story for the next month, just like "you lie."

Expect Weber to be publicly admonished by the House sooner or later.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Oceander on January 29, 2014, 04:19:35 am
Oh boy, this will be the story for the next month, just like "you lie."

Expect Weber to be publicly admonished by the House sooner or later.

no doubt
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 29, 2014, 04:21:22 am
Oh boy, this will be the story for the next month, just like "you lie."

Expect Weber to be publicly admonished by the House sooner or later.


So what - we need more speaking truth about this administration, keep bleep footing around the truth and this country is toast.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 29, 2014, 05:23:38 am
I'm sure that sort of trolling will play well in the congressman's district.  Nationally, it's just another example of an extremist GOP member picking on poor Barry.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 29, 2014, 05:37:01 am
Obama is a 'Socialist Dictator', or at least very much wants to be one. He has said so many times out of his own mouth, by his own words, he has said that he wants do be 'Dictator of America'.
 
This is no nuance, or context, or interpretation, he has said directly countless times that if he could be a Dictator, that is something he would do in a heartbeat. He's made no secret about it.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 29, 2014, 05:41:54 am
Obama is a 'Socialist Dictator', or at least very much wants to be one. He has said so many times out of his own mouth, by his own words, he has said that he wants do be 'Dictator of America'.
 
This is no nuance, or context, or interpretation, he has said directly countless times that if he could be a Dictator, that is something he would do in a heartbeat. He's made no secret about it.


Not saying I don't believe you, but can you provide quotes of Obama literally saying he wants to be "Dictator of America," or other just strong words.  I think I'd recall them if he did, and would be pushing the GOP to use those words in ads.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 29, 2014, 05:52:09 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElAJaC2mibQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElAJaC2mibQ)
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 29, 2014, 05:54:45 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62BH3DtYhv0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62BH3DtYhv0)
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 29, 2014, 06:00:42 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8J_lcHwkvc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8J_lcHwkvc)
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 29, 2014, 06:01:31 am
If this isn't what a dictator does, perhaps you can explain to me what is... unless you don't believe the Wallstreet Journal.......

http://theulstermanreport.com/2014/01/28/valerie-jarrett-orders-companies-to-start-hiring-or-else/

Valerie Jarrett Orders Companies To Start Hiring – Or Else…

by Ulsterman on January 28, 2014

Way underreported by the Mainstream Media was a recent phone call  de facto President Valerie Jarrett made personally to a number of large corporations days before Barack Obama’s State of the Union speech tonight.  The gist of that call was this – either you start hiring workers NOW, whether you need them or not, or the administration might just have to take another look at your business practices.  IRS anyone?  How about the SEC?  NSA?  FBI?  You name, we got it, so break out your wallet and make our employment numbers look better, OR ELSE.

VIA THE WALL STREET JOURNAL)

In recent weeks, senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett has reached out to chief executives seeking commitments that they won’t discriminate against the long-term unemployed in hiring practices. The White House has scheduled an event highlighting the initiative for Friday.”   LINK (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303277704579345163039263136?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories)

__________________________________

This is the White House scrambling to improve poll numbers and overall perception of the administration prior to the all important 2014 Midterms.  They know that if this Midterm Election goes as badly for them as current projections suggest, the Age of Obama agenda is done, and in fact, much of the damage already inflicted upon America can be pushed back.

Barack Obama’s investors don’t wish to see that happen, which explains why the most powerful figure in the Obama White House made an implied threat disguised as a personal call to business executives “reminding” them of their commitment to start hiring workers.  This reminder will then be followed by a White House event to publicize how effective the president is proving in getting America “moving again”.

Coercion, threats, lies and deception – it is the Obama way…
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 29, 2014, 06:17:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edij2CTWrx4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edij2CTWrx4)

As the judge points out, these extreme draconian extrajudicial 'laws' are being directed at 'terrorists' today, but once established, they could easily be directed at anyone tomorrow. Who was it who said Obama's rise to power resembles Hitler in very many ways?
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 29, 2014, 07:00:27 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElAJaC2mibQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElAJaC2mibQ)

Missed where he literally said he wanted to become a dictator. 
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 29, 2014, 07:00:58 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62BH3DtYhv0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62BH3DtYhv0)

Again, I missed where he called himself a dictator. 
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 29, 2014, 07:01:58 am
If this isn't what a dictator does, perhaps you can explain to me what is... unless you don't believe the Wallstreet Journal.......

http://theulstermanreport.com/2014/01/28/valerie-jarrett-orders-companies-to-start-hiring-or-else/


I'm not saying Obama isn't acting like a dictator, or that he doesn't want to be a dictator.  What I want is where is the soundbite in which he says he wants to be a dictator that can be easily sold to the LIVs.  I don't see it in any of the videos or quotes posted.

This place has a lower IQ than TOS at times.  Using the Ulsterman Report isn't going to fly with LIVs, either, even if it's 100% true.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 29, 2014, 08:30:51 am
I'm not saying Obama isn't acting like a dictator, or that he doesn't want to be a dictator.  What I want is where is the soundbite in which he says he wants to be a dictator that can be easily sold to the LIVs.  I don't see it in any of the videos or quotes posted.

This place has a lower IQ than TOS at times.  Using the Ulsterman Report isn't going to fly with LIVs, either, even if it's 100% true.


And you are so superior? 

IF you would have read the article this is a WALLSTREET JOURNAL article......... Ulsterman reposted it like we do articles on this site.   So...... according to the WallStreet Journal Valerie Jarrett - Obama's puppet master - told major corporations they will either play ball with this admin and do what they demand or the administration is going to sic the IRS, SEC, and whoever else they can come up with on them to make their lives miserable or even destroy their business.

IF you are looking for Obama to say he is a dictator you are not going to get that -  but actions speak louder than words and when he tells people I wish I was a dictator and then he turns around and says either congress is going to do what I tell them or I will do it without them by executive action. When you have a president who unilaterally re-writes laws in the Oval Office, a president who unilaterially decides what federal laws he will enforce and which laws he will not enforce - when his oath of office says he swears to uphold our laws,  and a president who uses the IRS and justice department to target people who have said something about him he doesn't like....... and turns his union thugs loose to target his enemies then I don't know what you want to call him.. Fascist definitely comes to mind...

Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on January 29, 2014, 08:36:52 am
I'm not saying Obama isn't acting like a dictator, or that he doesn't want to be a dictator.  What I want is where is the soundbite in which he says he wants to be a dictator that can be easily sold to the LIVs.  I don't see it in any of the videos or quotes posted.

This place has a lower IQ than TOS at times.  Using the Ulsterman Report isn't going to fly with LIVs, either, even if it's 100% true.

These yahoos are trying to convince you Obama is a socialist.  as if you needed convincing.  They will also explain what legitimate rape is if you ask.

I know it sometimes seems like you are talking to a brick wall.  I'm reading your posts and I think you are MUST READ briefingroom.  Thanx for taking the slings and arrows of your lessers.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 29, 2014, 09:58:12 am
These yahoos are trying to convince you Obama is a socialist.  as if you needed convincing.  They will also explain what legitimate rape is if you ask.

I know it sometimes seems like you are talking to a brick wall.  I'm reading your posts and I think you are MUST READ briefingroom.  Thanx for taking the slings and arrows of your lessers.

I can't stand Obama.  I know he wants to be a dictator, and to demonize those of us against him.  All I want are actual things that can be used against him in a political battle, and not soundbites from some Rep who has a secure seat.  This congressman from Texas is no different to me than a far-left pol from a safe district calling Bush "Hitler" and saying he wants to be a dictator who is trampling on the Constitution via the Patriotic Act.  It's a political ploy used to secure votes, and to rile up others to lead to infighting. 
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 29, 2014, 10:00:11 am

And you are so superior? 

IF you would have read the article this is a WALLSTREET JOURNAL article......... Ulsterman reposted it like we do articles on this site.   So...... according to the WallStreet Journal Valerie Jarrett - Obama's puppet master - told major corporations they will either play ball with this admin and do what they demand or the administration is going to sic the IRS, SEC, and whoever else they can come up with on them to make their lives miserable or even destroy their business.

IF you are looking for Obama to say he is a dictator you are not going to get that -  but actions speak louder than words and when he tells people I wish I was a dictator and then he turns around and says either congress is going to do what I tell them or I will do it without them by executive action. When you have a president who unilaterally re-writes laws in the Oval Office, a president who unilaterially decides what federal laws he will enforce and which laws he will not enforce - when his oath of office says he swears to uphold our laws,  and a president who uses the IRS and justice department to target people who have said something about him he doesn't like....... and turns his union thugs loose to target his enemies then I don't know what you want to call him.. Fascist definitely comes to mind...

That's not at all the point of my posts.  I'm with you on how we view Obama.   :whistle:

Calling Obama a dictator, when he hasn't claimed to be one, is a loser strategy.  Let him defeat himself, without flanking him to the extreme side of his own actions.  I realize that it's difficult for extremists anywhere to just be quiet and let their opponent lose on their own, though.   Obama's actions say dictator, but that is too much for the LIVs to understand.  Let Obama fail on his own, without giving him an out by people calling him names.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 29, 2014, 10:01:41 am
Anybody to the left of Rand Paul is now considered an Obama supporter here by TPTB.

This is different than TOS ... how, exactly?
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 29, 2014, 01:47:51 pm
Obama's relentless and open disdain for Congress, the Constitution, the American people, and the 'rule of law', has shown very clearly where he stands politically and what he would do to 'fundementally change America' if he could.
 
Your stand is just as childish as those you impune. Your request is a little silly. Of course Barack 'spread the wealth around' Obama has never been quoted saying "I want to be a Socialist Dictator" in public. And even if he did say it at some fund raiser somewhere, it would never be reported by the MSM. And even if it was accidentally reported, it would be scrubbed from the net in no time. That is just how things work today in America.
 
After all the things Obama has said and done, you respond with, "I want to hear where he said, I want to be Dictator." While this is a legitimate point, and I understand your point, it is simultaneously absurd. If I showed you an example of Obama saying, "I want to have sex with men." your response would be, Tell me where he said he wants to be a 'homosexual'. He didn't say he wants to be homosexual, he just said he wants to have sex with men. That's different.
 
As far as the rest of your critique of the people on this site, I can read between the lines that you are saying we should show more support for John 'Soros buddy' McCain, and his pals. Or maybe we should show more support for Boehner after his tirade against the Tea Party followed by his appearance on Leno where he implied that the Tea Party and by extension the Republican Party is responsible for everything that is wrong with Congress. (I'm just glad he didn't cry this time. seriously)
 
These are of course Liberal/Democrat talking points, as is quoting 'legitimate rape' every time you get upset. That is straight out of DU and MSNBC.
 
Republicans cannot continue by playing patty-cake with Democrats/MSM who want to destroy them. It sounds to me like you and Once-ler have a lot in common with Boehner and many other soft Republicans. I, on the other hand, believe in a strong and bold Republican Party. And yes, I like Mr. Paul and Cruz very much. If that make me an extremist, then I am.
 
BTW, I respect your point. While you are being a little pedantic, you have caused me to think twice before speaking in bombastic terms. So, it winds up being a good thing.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 29, 2014, 03:02:02 pm
That's not at all the point of my posts.  I'm with you on how we view Obama.   :whistle:

Calling Obama a dictator, when he hasn't claimed to be one, is a loser strategy.  Let him defeat himself, without flanking him to the extreme side of his own actions.  I realize that it's difficult for extremists anywhere to just be quiet and let their opponent lose on their own, though.   Obama's actions say dictator, but that is too much for the LIVs to understand.  Let Obama fail on his own, without giving him an out by people calling him names.

You are so full of sheite that your eyes are turning brown!

Calling a dictator a dictator is simply speaking the TRUTH and that is NEVER a losing strategy! I wish to live to see a lot more of it!!
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: happyg on January 29, 2014, 03:13:08 pm
You are so full of sheite that your eyes are turning brown!

Calling a dictator a dictator is simply speaking the TRUTH and that is NEVER a losing strategy! I wish to live to see a lot more of it!!

 :amen: If we just sit on our hands and don't say anything, including Cruz, etal, the people will wonder why they weren't warned.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Relic on January 29, 2014, 03:24:51 pm
Anybody to the left of Rand Paul is now considered an Obama supporter here by TPTB.

This is different than TOS ... how, exactly?

It is different, and here's why.

Back in the GWB days, TOS was full of free trade types who played the conservative purity game. I can't tell you how many times I was told to go back to the DU because I didn't favor wholesale movement of jobs to China, or some other similar issue. Those people were the right equivalent of the dogmatic leftists that we deride here.

What you see here, now is the unraveling of the GOP as the left with their fully compliant media beat conservatism and capitalism into the ground. There is a lot of anxiety and frustration. There are those that believe that supporting anyone who calls himself/herself Republican is the answer. Then there are those that don't see a dimes worth of difference between the establishment GOP and Democrats. We have no leadership, and very little hope of moving the country back to the right. That anxiety plays out here. It's a vent, it's a safety valve.

You and I aren't far apart in how we see things. What is starting to chap my behind is the posters who come in, hurl insults, tell everyone who doesn't agree with them they're stupid, sophomoric and just plain lacking sense. My anxiety level is as high as anyone's. While I don't let this anxiety affect my daily life, (that I'm aware of), I express it here. However, if someone were to be as insulting as those posters are, to my face, I'm not sure the result would be good for either of us.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: DCPatriot on January 29, 2014, 03:36:46 pm
Yeah?


THERE IS a difference between the current Democratic leadership and the Republican Party.

And you can bet your bippie that the Democrat Party also has a "Silent, Moral Majority", that still puts Baseball, Apple Pie and Chevrolet before Redistribution of Wealth and demonizing producers.

....just wait until the mid-terms.   Because if the Democrats control all three branches again, Matt Drudge's suggestion to "have an exit plan" will come to fruition.

In fact, it's not even controlling the House and Senate.   It's the fragility of life....of the members of the Supreme Court.

Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 29, 2014, 03:57:08 pm
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Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: EC on January 29, 2014, 04:55:33 pm
It is different, and here's why.

Back in the GWB days, TOS was full of free trade types who played the conservative purity game. I can't tell you how many times I was told to go back to the DU because I didn't favor wholesale movement of jobs to China, or some other similar issue. Those people were the right equivalent of the dogmatic leftists that we deride here.

What you see here, now is the unraveling of the GOP as the left with their fully compliant media beat conservatism and capitalism into the ground. There is a lot of anxiety and frustration. There are those that believe that supporting anyone who calls himself/herself Republican is the answer. Then there are those that don't see a dimes worth of difference between the establishment GOP and Democrats. We have no leadership, and very little hope of moving the country back to the right. That anxiety plays out here. It's a vent, it's a safety valve.

You and I aren't far apart in how we see things. What is starting to chap my behind is the posters who come in, hurl insults, tell everyone who doesn't agree with them they're stupid, sophomoric and just plain lacking sense. My anxiety level is as high as anyone's. While I don't let this anxiety affect my daily life, (that I'm aware of), I express it here. However, if someone were to be as insulting as those posters are, to my face, I'm not sure the result would be good for either of us.

 goopo

Well said.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: mountaineer on January 29, 2014, 05:38:30 pm
And you can bet your bippie that the Democrat Party also has a "Silent, Moral Majority", that still puts Baseball, Apple Pie and Chevrolet before Redistribution of Wealth and demonizing producers.
And that's why W.Va., with voter registration of at least 2:1 in favor of Dems (more like 4:1 or better in some counties), still has chosen the GOP presidential candidate since 2000 and has elected Republicans as two of its three congressional representatives.

But we're all yahoos, dontcha know.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 12:35:25 am
Anybody to the left of Rand Paul is now considered an Obama supporter here by TPTB.

This is different than TOS ... how, exactly?

Actually Rand Paul is a libertarian-conservative - which is pretty much where I am politically.  Andrew Wilkow has coined a term I like a lot: "Limitarian" as in government get out of the way and leave us the heck alone and let the country right itself without so much interference... of course this will never happen because both parties get off on the power they glean from picking the winners and losers in this country.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 12:42:35 am
Perhaps the people who do not agree this admin has morphed into dangerous tyranical territory could tell us what exactly you do call someone who uses the NSA and IRS to spy on and control their perceived domestic enemies.  Who threatens news-people who speak out against them, who is now reported to not only be threatening major corporations to either start hiring or else and is not reported to be issuing threats to Newscorp to get in line or else.   If this isn't dangerous territory then tell us what is?  Because when you control the media the courts (packing the DC court), Homeland Security and have pretty much stripped all opposition out of the military while arming local police departments with military grade equipment - when exactly SHOULD we become concerned?  AND tell us why we should support the GOP leadership watching this take place and are complicit in this by their very silence.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 01:07:03 am
and there is this, too...  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,126979.0.html

along with reports the admin has told News corp to play ball or else.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: EC on January 30, 2014, 01:14:39 am
and there is this, too...  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,126979.0.html

along with reports the admin has told News corp to play ball or else.

 :pop41:

Anyone want some? This will be interesting.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 01:23:39 am
Under Article 2, section 3 of the Constitution the President "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed"  it does not say the president gets to decide what laws he WANTS to faithfully execute or that he gets to go around congress to make his own laws (like immigration laws because that mean ole congress won't vote for what he wants).

What we have at the very least is an Imperial President with no regard for co-equal branches of government and it may not many here, but I find it alarming... and it is even more alarming that Boehner is rolling over and not using his own bully pulpit to speak out against this usurping of power.   
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 01:26:05 am
I'm still wondering what some far-right House Rep's words about Obama being a "dictator" matter nationally.  What did it accomplish? 

I don't think Rap even knows what she's arguing at this point.  I've admitted that Obama is acting like a dictator.  Some House Rep from a safe seat throwing some red meat to his voting base isn't really that big of a deal, and I still don't know what it was supposed to accomplish, coming from such a partisan member of congress.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 01:27:49 am
Under Article 2, section 3 of the Constitution the President "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed"  it does not say the president gets to decide what laws he WANTS to faithfully execute or that he gets to go around congress to make his own laws (like immigration laws because that mean ole congress won't vote for what he wants).

What we have at the very least is an Imperial President with no regard for co-equal branches of government and it may not many here, but I find it alarming... and it is even more alarming that Boehner is rolling over and not using his own bully pulpit to speak out against this usurping of power.

Boehner has spoken about it repeatedly.  You've been provided links to it.  Here is another one from yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/

Quote
House Speaker John Boehner issued a stern warning to President Obama ahead of Tuesday night's State of the Union address: "We have a Constitution. We abide by it. If he tries to ignore it, he's going to run into a brick wall."

The House speaker was addressing concerns that Obama is preparing to bypass Congress this year with more executive actions. Advisers for days have signaled that Obama will promote that approach in his State of the Union address -- and will use his "pen" and his "phone" in 2014 to achieve the results he wants.

What else would you like him to do?  Frog-march Obama out of the White House via citizen's arrest?  Boehner can call Obama out all he wants, but if the populace doesn't care, which they don't, what other tact is there to take?
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: EC on January 30, 2014, 01:31:18 am
Under Article 2, section 3 of the Constitution the President "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed"  it does not say the president gets to decide what laws he WANTS to faithfully execute or that he gets to go around congress to make his own laws (like immigration laws because that mean ole congress won't vote for what he wants).

What we have at the very least is an Imperial President with no regard for co-equal branches of government and it may not many here, but I find it alarming... and it is even more alarming that Boehner is rolling over and not using his own bully pulpit to speak out against this usurping of power.

You know your history. It has happened before. It will happen again.

It seems to be inevitable. Hope it isn't, and this time there is something new in the mix. Instant information, for those who want it.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 01:32:36 am
Boehner has spoken about it repeatedly.  You've been provided links to it.  Here is another one from yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/

What else would you like him to do?  Frog-march Obama out of the White House via citizen's arrest?  Boehner can call Obama out all he wants, but if the populace doesn't care, which they don't, what other tact is there to take?

Boehner warns and that is as far as he EVER goes. Remember when we learned about the IRS he ran out to the camera and said "someone is going to jail over this" and then retired back to his wine and cigarettes in the back room. Where was his outrage when Holder had a Democrat crony do a fake one day investigation and announced case solved, nothing to see here, move along.

Where was Boehner over NSA???

Where was Boehner on Benghazi?  Why when 75% of congress have signed a letter wanting a select committee will he not name one or even reply to them??? 
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 01:39:15 am
Boehner warns and that is as far as he EVER goes. Remember when we learned about the IRS he ran out to the camera and said "someone is going to jail over this" and then retired back to his wine and cigarettes in the back room. Where was his outrage when Holder had a Democrat crony do a fake one day investigation and announced case solved, nothing to see here, move along.

Where was Boehner over NSA???

Where was Boehner on Benghazi?  Why when 75% of congress have signed a letter wanting a select committee will he not name one or even reply to them???

This isn't about Benghazi or NSA, but as I recall, there were several hearings on both matters.  I would like you to tell me exactly what Boehner should do.  He used his bully pulpit by speaking out against Obama's excessive EOs, as you asked him to do when you instead said he "rolled over."  I shined the light on that fib by you, so now you change the goalposts. 

I'm sick of all talk no action, too, but I read a lot of that same stuff from posters on this board.  A lot of whining and criticizing, some of which certainly is well-deserved, yet very few realistic solutions. 
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 02:48:39 am
Did you watch Boehner on Leno?  He trashed his own party. Contrast to Te Cruz on CBS Sunday where he went hard on Obama.  Remember how when Bush was President Pelosi went out daily to trash talk Bush?   If Boehner is not driving his failures into the news  how do you expect LIV's to know half or more of what O said last night were lies.  Do you think Boehner and Cantor pushing amnesty will help us take the senate in November?  I don't.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Fishrrman on January 30, 2014, 02:58:43 am
Carling wrote:
[[ Calling Obama a dictator, when he hasn't claimed to be one, is a loser strategy. ]]

Obama is an erstwhile dictator of sorts. Perhaps not yet the real thing, but the colors of authoritarianism run in his veins.

Valerie Jarrett is the REAL dictator of the administration, who calls the shots behind the scenes.

Methinks if O had his way, he'd just as soon be playing golf or getting high with that Love guy...  :)
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Fishrrman on January 30, 2014, 03:05:55 am
DC Patriot writes:
[[ THERE IS a difference between the current Democratic leadership and the Republican Party ]]

From what I've seen of the Pubbies lately, the "R" that appears after the names of Republican Congressmen and Senators seems to stand mostly for "retreat".

Patriot continues:
[[ ....just wait until the mid-terms. ]]

Want to see just how quickly they can throw their chances over the cliff?
If they don't stand up against amnesty, it's pretty much over for them.
Right now, things ain't lookin' good.

I would gladly be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 30, 2014, 03:14:44 am
I would like you to tell me exactly what Boehner should do.  He used his bully pulpit by speaking out against Obama's excessive EOs
 
Negative, bucko, he used his bully pulpit to trash the Tea Party which happen to be his fellow Repulicans, whether he likes it or not.
 
Has anyone ever heard Boehner say anything at all, one single thing, that could be possibly be construed in some far out way as being negative toward OBAMA? or the DEMOCRATS?
 
NO!
 
He spends all his time attacking the Tea Party and his fellow Republicans, as does Reid, Pelosi, the MSM, and Obama.
 
Nothing personal against the guy, he is simply playing for the wrong team. He plays for the other team and he needs to join with THEM, and leave us alone.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:17:42 am
Did you watch Boehner on Leno?  He trashed his own party. Contrast to Te Cruz on CBS Sunday where he went hard on Obama.  Remember how when Bush was President Pelosi went out daily to trash talk Bush?   If Boehner is not driving his failures into the news  how do you expect LIV's to know half or more of what O said last night were lies.  Do you think Boehner and Cantor pushing amnesty will help us take the senate in November?  I don't.

Wait, so you're saying that there are no TEA Party types who criticize Boehner?

I agree with you 100% on the immigration stuff, though.  I have not a clue what they're thinking, but they don't have a chance in hell of getting it passed.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:20:42 am

 
Negative, bucko, he used his bully pulpit to trash the Tea Party which happen to be his fellow Repulicans, whether he likes it or not.
 
Has anyone ever heard Boehner say anything at all, one single thing, that could be possibly be construed in some far out way as being negative toward OBAMA? or the DEMOCRATS?
 


Yeah, I just linked it a few posts ago.  He said it yesterday

Read much?  Or, is it willful ignorance?
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 30, 2014, 03:22:25 am
So, you justify bad behavior with bad behavior.
 
"Well, Johnny did it too! Why are you picking on meeeee?"
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:22:38 am
I guess what I find perplexing is how Boehner gets consistently bashed from the far right, yet when he says something back, suddenly the far right becomes aggrieved.

I don't even like Boehner, but I find humor in those who freak out about him getting upset when he fights back.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 30, 2014, 03:23:51 am
Alright, I'll check it out. It would surprise me, but I'm game.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:29:45 am
So, you justify bad behavior with bad behavior.
 
"Well, Johnny did it too! Why are you picking on meeeee?"

I'm not justifying anything.  What would you expect the man to do, though?  I wonder how many emails a day he gets that say something clever like "Boner Sux," and such.  I guess people just need things to complain about?   :shrug:
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: happyg on January 30, 2014, 03:32:17 am
I believe this is the article you referred to. Boehner said it BEFORE the SOTU. What he said after, differs.

Quote
House Speaker John Boehner issued a stern warning to President Obama ahead of Tuesday night's State of the Union address: "We have a Constitution. We abide by it. If he tries to ignore it, he's going to run into a brick wall."

snip...
Quote
Boehner, speaking later to reporters, said Obama likely has the authority to raise the wage for federal contractors. He downplayed the impact the move would have. "Let's understand something: this affects not one current contract, it only affects future contracts with the federal government. And so I think the question is, how many people, Mr. President will this executive action actually help? I suspect the answer is somewhere close to zero," he said.

But Boehner reminded the president not to overstep his bounds as he weighs other executive actions.

"House Republicans will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing the laws -- as he took an oath to do," Boehner said. "Now I think dealing with federal contracts and the minimum wage, he probably has the authority to do that but we're going to watch very closely because there's a Constitution that we all take an oath to, including him."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/)
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 30, 2014, 03:32:20 am
"House Republicans will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing the laws -- as he took an oath to do,"
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/)
 
Is this it? This is what you are talking about? The stern warning "We will continue to look closely at....". That is the justification that Boehner is on the ball.
 
WHY HASN'T HE BEEN "LOOKING CLOSELY AT"...FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS? And so what if he 'looks closely at'? Who cares? So what? What is he going to do?
 
I'll tell you....
 
Absolutely Nothing.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:34:20 am
"House Republicans will continue to look closely at whether the president is faithfully executing the laws -- as he took an oath to do,"
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/28/have-constitution-boehner-warns-obama-on-exec-orders/)
 
Is this it? This is what you are talking about? The stern warning "We will continue to look closely at....". That is the justification that Boehner is on the ball.
 
WHY HASN'T HE BEEN "LOOKING CLOSELY AT"...FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS? And so what if he 'looks closely at'? Who cares? So what? What is he going to do?
 
I'll tell you....
 
Absolutely Nothing.

Exactly.  What do you expect him to do?
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 30, 2014, 03:37:45 am
Exactly.  What do you expect him to do?

Name a select committee to look into Benghazi for starters! And after that is done another to look into the IRS scandal! Etc Etc.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:40:15 am
Name a select committee to look into Benghazi for starters! And after that is done another to look into the IRS scandal! Etc Etc.

A select committee is a waste of time.  It's findings will be dismissed as partisan and political. 
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 30, 2014, 03:40:35 am
Exactly.  What do you expect him to do?

Touche' man. You have accidentally won the arguement. What do I expect him to do?
 
Nothing. Absolutely nothing, that's what I expect from Boehner, except maybe to trash more Republicans and call it the Republican's (Tea Party) fault.
 
What do I think should be done? Well you would have to ask Paul and Cruz about that.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:41:24 am

Touche' man. You have accidentally won the arguement. What do I expect him to do?
 
Nothing. Absoltely nothing, except maybe trash more Republicans and call it the Republican's (Tea Party) fault.
 
What do I think should be done? Well you would have to ask Paul and Cruz about that.

What have Cruz and Paul done to stop Obama?  Also, I "won the argument" when you called me "bucko."  Bigun says I have "sheite for brains," as well.  When you have to resort to childish insults, the debate is lost.  I don't like Boehner.  I've stated this numerous times.  I don't know what else to tell you.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 30, 2014, 03:42:55 am
A select committee is a waste of time.  It's findings will be dismissed as partisan and political.

So you say! I beg to differ very strongly!

Whatever the inside the beltway crowd says there will remain facts and evidence!

Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 03:45:32 am
A select committee is a waste of time.  It's findings will be dismissed as partisan and political.

This is where you are wrong.  Go back in history. Do you know what finally brought Nixon down?  A Select Committee.   I am going out on a limb and presuming you are aware of exactly how a select committee differs from these dog and pony shows we see every few months with Issa?   

I am also going out on a limb and assuming you are aware 75% of the GOP house (more than just TP members) have written at least twice to Boehner to please name a select committee for Benghazi.   They are as confused as "some" of us here on why they do not even receive an answer from Boehner - which begs the question. Why? What is Boehner helping Obama cover up?
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 30, 2014, 03:46:12 am
What have Cruz and Paul done to stop Obama?  Also, I "won the argument" when you called me "bucko."  Bigun says I have "sheite for brains," as well.  When you have to resort to childish insults, the debate is lost.  I don't like Boehner.  I've stated this numerous times.  I don't know what else to tell you.

I know that, I know where you are and that you are a good person. Bucko was a term of endearment. If we can't argue as friends, then what do we have?
 
That is just how I talk. It was nothing pointed specifically at you.
 
Take it easy. We are all on the same side.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:46:47 am
So you say! I beg to differ very strongly!

Really?  A select committee filled with GOP House members isn't going to be viewed as partisan?

There have already been 5 committees investigating Benghazi, yet this next one is going to blow the public away? 

Let's be realistic here.  Focus on stopping the future amnesty, and not dwelling on the past right now.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: DCPatriot on January 30, 2014, 03:47:44 am
I believe that given Obama has effectively overhauled the military leadership, that most current high level politicians are cowered into silence and acceptance.

That's why we need FRESH new blood energized with pi$$ and vinegar.

That said, I think it's already too late.  Citizenship for 20 million new democrats sure dampens the spirit.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Carling on January 30, 2014, 03:47:51 am

I know that, I know where you are and that you are a good person. Bucko was a term of endearment. If we can't argue as friends, then what do we have?
 
That is just how I talk. It was nothing pointed specifically at you.
 
Take it easy. We are all on the same side.

My flame suit was on, because I tend to run a bit astray from the GOPBR mainstream thought patterns.  Bucko is fine.  "S**t for brains" is dumb.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 30, 2014, 03:52:10 am
Really?  A select committee filled with GOP House members isn't going to be viewed as partisan?

There have already been 5 committees investigating Benghazi, yet this next one is going to blow the public away? 

Let's be realistic here.  Focus on stopping the future amnesty, and not dwelling on the past right now.

As has already been pointed out to you by others, select committees operate under a VERY different set of rules than do standing committees and that is a game changer! Which Boehner well knows and the reason he refuses to appoint them!
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: 240B on January 30, 2014, 03:52:16 am
It is time for some online poker, a couple o' shots of moonshine, and some sleep. Then I wake up, go to work, come home, watch TV, go to sleep....and then do it all over again.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 30, 2014, 03:54:48 am
My flame suit was on, because I tend to run a bit astray from the GOPBR mainstream thought patterns.  Bucko is fine.  "S**t for brains" is dumb.

I never said that you had sheite for brains! I said that you were so full of sheite on the issue currently under discussion that your eyes were turning brown! NOT the same thing! Not by a long shot!
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 03:59:15 am
The crime (IMO) is this is going on two years..........

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/12/05/select-committee-on-benghazi-precedent-exists/


Select Committee on Benghazi: Precedent Exists

Morgan Lorraine Roach

December 5, 2012 at 1:30 pm

In the aftermath of the September 11 attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, the Obama Administration announced efforts to investigate the facts behind the attack and the state of U.S. security at overseas diplomatic facilities.

While the reports, undertaken by the State Department’s Accountability and Review Board (ARB) and inspector general, have yet to be released, an additional investigation by Congress via a select or special committee could shed light on many unanswered questions.

In Congress, the House of Representatives and Senate have select, special, and joint committees that direct their attention to specific issues, conduct oversight, and investigate fraud, waste, and abuse of power (e.g., the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence). Joint committees are bicameral (e.g., the Joint Committee on Taxation). These committees were enacted by a congressional resolution and are permanent. However, select committees can also serve as temporary forums for investigating emerging issues that do not fall under existing standing committee jurisdictions or overlap jurisdictional boundaries.

The most notable select committees include the Senate’s Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities (also known as “the Watergate Committee”) and the joint Congressional Committee Investigating the Iran–Contra Affair. In 1973, in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, a resolution introduced by the late Senator Ted Kennedy (D–MA) passed unanimously in the Senate to form a select committee to investigate President Richard Nixon’s participation in the break-in at the Democratic National Committee offices. In 1987, the House and Senate formed a joint select committee to investigate President Ronald Reagan’s involvement in the sale of arms to Iran.

However, in neither case was there a loss of American life or a direct assault on U.S. security. A more relevant precedent for the establishment of a select committee is the 1946 Joint Congressional Committee on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor Attack. Following the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, the committee was established by a joint congressional resolution to investigate the facts and circumstances leading up to and following the attack. The committee’s final report further identifies its responsibility:

   
Quote
To find lessons to avoid pitfalls in the future, to evolve constructive suggestions for the protection of our national security, and to determine whether there were failures in our own military and naval establishments which in any measure may have contributed to the extent and intensity of the disaster.
This is not intended to equate the terrorist attack in Libya with the Japanese assault (considered an “act of war”) on Pearl Harbor; it is intended merely to demonstrate that there is precedent for Congress establishing a special committee to investigate a violation of U.S. territorial integrity.

In the case of the attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Congress has held briefings, hearings, and floated countless letters between Administration officials and members. Yet, as Senator Lindsey Graham (R–SC) acknowledged last month, the risk of stove-piping emerges as conflicting accounts muddle the investigatory process.

Because the Benghazi attack covers multiple congressional committee jurisdictions, the establishment of a joint select committee presents an opportunity for a proactive and coordinated approach by Congress.

Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 30, 2014, 04:06:04 am
The crime (IMO) is this is going on two years..........

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/12/05/select-committee-on-benghazi-precedent-exists/


Select Committee on Benghazi: Precedent Exists

Morgan Lorraine Roach

December 5, 2012 at 1:30 pm

In the aftermath of the September 11 attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, the Obama Administration announced efforts to investigate the facts behind the attack and the state of U.S. security at overseas diplomatic facilities.

While the reports, undertaken by the State Department’s Accountability and Review Board (ARB) and inspector general, have yet to be released, an additional investigation by Congress via a select or special committee could shed light on many unanswered questions.

In Congress, the House of Representatives and Senate have select, special, and joint committees that direct their attention to specific issues, conduct oversight, and investigate fraud, waste, and abuse of power (e.g., the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence). Joint committees are bicameral (e.g., the Joint Committee on Taxation). These committees were enacted by a congressional resolution and are permanent. However, select committees can also serve as temporary forums for investigating emerging issues that do not fall under existing standing committee jurisdictions or overlap jurisdictional boundaries.

The most notable select committees include the Senate’s Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities (also known as “the Watergate Committee”) and the joint Congressional Committee Investigating the Iran–Contra Affair. In 1973, in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, a resolution introduced by the late Senator Ted Kennedy (D–MA) passed unanimously in the Senate to form a select committee to investigate President Richard Nixon’s participation in the break-in at the Democratic National Committee offices. In 1987, the House and Senate formed a joint select committee to investigate President Ronald Reagan’s involvement in the sale of arms to Iran.

However, in neither case was there a loss of American life or a direct assault on U.S. security. A more relevant precedent for the establishment of a select committee is the 1946 Joint Congressional Committee on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor Attack. Following the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, the committee was established by a joint congressional resolution to investigate the facts and circumstances leading up to and following the attack. The committee’s final report further identifies its responsibility:

    This is not intended to equate the terrorist attack in Libya with the Japanese assault (considered an “act of war”) on Pearl Harbor; it is intended merely to demonstrate that there is precedent for Congress establishing a special committee to investigate a violation of U.S. territorial integrity.

In the case of the attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Congress has held briefings, hearings, and floated countless letters between Administration officials and members. Yet, as Senator Lindsey Graham (R–SC) acknowledged last month, the risk of stove-piping emerges as conflicting accounts muddle the investigatory process.

Because the Benghazi attack covers multiple congressional committee jurisdictions, the establishment of a joint select committee presents an opportunity for a proactive and coordinated approach by Congress.


 :hands:  :beer:
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 04:13:10 am
People who were old enough to remember the Watergate era and those born after Watergate don't know or remember going into the hearings Nixon had very high ratings and they stayed high - at first - but as more and more came out and then Woodward and Bernstein started to reveal what Deep Throat told them his polling numbers fell and fell and fell and he was more than a lame duck left with no alternative but resign... something I cheered when it finally happened - but just like Benghazi it didn't happen over night - it seemed to go on forever until the Democrats AND Republicans agreed on a Select Committee.  I'm convinced without the select committee Nixon would have ridden this thing until he was out of office.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: happyg on January 30, 2014, 04:22:40 am
I remember it like you, Rap. I believed Nixon until he wouldn't release the tapes, and then 14 minutes or so were missing. I knew then. I was heart-broken, but then, became mad as hell, and wanted him gone to get it over with. Looking back, what Nixon did is normal by today's standards.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 30, 2014, 04:24:45 am
I remember it like you, Rap. I believed Nixon until he wouldn't release the tapes, and then 14 minutes or so were missing. I knew then. I was heart-broken, but then, became mad as hell, and wanted him gone to get it over with. Looking back, what Nixon did is normal by today's standards.

What was done in the Nixon era would look like a Sunday School picnic in comparison with the goings on of this administration I'm afraid!
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: happyg on January 30, 2014, 04:30:58 am
What was done in the Nixon era would look like a Sunday School picnic in comparison with the goings on of this administration I'm afraid!

Obama had and has one scandal after another, though the MSM doesn't call them scandals. If they were honest, Obama would have been long gone. He's a world-wide embarrassment. So is our media.
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 04:36:31 am
“Think of the press as a great keyboard
on which the government can play.”
― Joseph Goebbels

“That propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda’s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success.”
― Joseph Goebbels


“Success is the important thing. Propaganda is not a matter for average minds, but rather a matter for practitioners. It is not supposed to be lovely or theoretically correct. I do not care if I give wonderful, aesthetically elegant speeches, or speak so that women cry. The point of a political speech is to persuade people of what we think right. I speak differently in the provinces than I do in Berlin, and when I speak in Bayreuth, I say different things than I say in the Pharus Hall. That is a matter of practice, not of theory. We do not want to be a movement of a few straw brains, but rather a movement that can conquer the broad masses. Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths.”
― Joseph Goebbels



“We shall go down in history as the greatest statesmen of all time,or as the greatest criminals”
― Joseph Goebbels




“What does Christianity mean today? National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel.”
― Joseph Goebbels


and...........


 
    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

― Joseph Goebbels




Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Bigun on January 30, 2014, 02:42:42 pm
“Think of the press as a great keyboard
on which the government can play.”
― Joseph Goebbels

“That propaganda is good which leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result. It is not propaganda’s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success.”
― Joseph Goebbels


“Success is the important thing. Propaganda is not a matter for average minds, but rather a matter for practitioners. It is not supposed to be lovely or theoretically correct. I do not care if I give wonderful, aesthetically elegant speeches, or speak so that women cry. The point of a political speech is to persuade people of what we think right. I speak differently in the provinces than I do in Berlin, and when I speak in Bayreuth, I say different things than I say in the Pharus Hall. That is a matter of practice, not of theory. We do not want to be a movement of a few straw brains, but rather a movement that can conquer the broad masses. Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths.”
― Joseph Goebbels



“We shall go down in history as the greatest statesmen of all time,or as the greatest criminals”
― Joseph Goebbels




“What does Christianity mean today? National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel.”
― Joseph Goebbels


and...........


 
    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

― Joseph Goebbels

and Joseph Gobbels learned the trade at the feet of Woodrow Wilson's propaganda minister Dr. Edward Bernays!

http://www.criticalthink.info/webindex/bernays.htm
Title: Re: Congressman calls Obama ‘the Socialistic dictator’ on House floor
Post by: Rapunzel on January 30, 2014, 08:33:23 pm
and Joseph Gobbels learned the trade at the feet of Woodrow Wilson's propaganda minister Dr. Edward Bernays!

http://www.criticalthink.info/webindex/bernays.htm

Absolutely correct!  Thanks for the reminder.  Possibly our worst president ever - Woodrow Wilson and who do we have to thank for his presidency - John McCain's favorite - Teddy Roosevelt.

Speaking of which - here is a book for Gazoo to add to her reading list:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595553517?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1595553517&linkCode=xm2&tag=lewrockwell

Theodore and Woodrow: How Two American Presidents Destroyed Constitutional Freedom Hardcover – November 13, 2012

and an interesting tidbit in the book you will appreciate - Bigun

snip........

Before the 16th amendment (legalizing income tax) the federal government got 40% of its revenue from taxes on alcohol. The 16th amendment paved the way for the 18th, and the 17th sealed it by removing the check and balance of the State's representatives, leaving it to the masses to decide (reform minded progressives), with women rewarded with the 19th for being such supporters of Prohibition with their votes at the state level. But we all know Prohibition (which was at the hub of this first push at progressive minded reform) was an utter failure, leading to a bloom in criminalization and a destruction of family values (sound familiar?).