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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: 240B on September 24, 2017, 06:13:59 pm
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By The Associated Press
39 minutes ago
NEW YORK (AP) — The Latest on the sports world reacting to President Donald Trump’s remarks about pro football (all times Eastern): 1 p.m.
NFL players used the national anthem to show their defiance to President Donald Trump’s criticism, with at least 100 players kneeling or sitting in protest and one team staying in the locker room.
Most teams in the early afternoon games locked arms in solidarity. At least three team owners joined their players.
More than 100 players sat or knelt, the form of protest started last season by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick. Kaepernick is now a free agent, and supporters believe teams have avoided signing him because of his protest.
The Pittsburgh Steelers remained in the locker room as the national anthem played before their game with the Chicago Bears. Coach Mike Tomlin stood by himself on the sideline.
https://www.apnews.com/dc7ba43160d049eca3a0460d093ad8e1/The-Latest:-At-least-100-NFL-players-kneel-or-sit-in-protest
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Exactly as predicted, this has now become an anti-Trump issue. Right on cue.
Trump has successfully taken it over.
Now we are all free to forget about 'Pig' cops, and all those poor little oppressed innocent Black men, who never do anything wrong, of course.
I wonder how Kaepernick feels about Trump stealing his protest. LOL! BLM must be pissed.
Whether or not Trump was trying to do this or not (he had to know this would happen), it is now just another anti-Trump thing like you can see everyday on MSNBC and CNN, and all the rest.
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Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva (spelling) came out and stood for the anthem, he served in Afghanistan.
I see in one of the games, they showed maybe how some kids were going to come out at half time; the kneelers certainly are a poor example for the kids.
If 100 players kneeled, that's got to be about half at least. I read one team locked arms and stood. That's a bit better; not sure how to read that.
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11:45 a.m.
A handful of Miami Dolphins players are wearing black T-shirts supporting free agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick during pregame warm-ups.
The shirts have “#IMWITHKAP” written in bold white lettering on the front.
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Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva (spelling) came out and stood for the anthem, he served in Afghanistan.
I see in one of the games, they showed maybe how some kids were going to come out at half time; the kneelers certainly are a poor example for the kids.
If 100 players kneeled, that's got to be about half at least. I read one team locked arms and stood. That's a bit better; not sure how to read that.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,282641.0.html
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Yeah, I'm sure all those Cubans in Miami will appreciate the Dolphins supporting that Che lover.
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Let me state upfront, I do not watch football and haven't for many years. That said, I just don't get it! If I insult my boss on company time, I would be fired. If I insult a customer, I get fired. If I bad mouth the company publicly, I get fired. This is not, or shouldn't be, political. It is a simple employee/employer issue. I know that is naive but, it just astounds me that so many are saying it is a 1st A issue but it isn't! They can say/do what they wish. But, the employer should be able to distribute consequences. Again, I don't get it.
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11:45 a.m.
A handful of Miami Dolphins players are wearing black T-shirts supporting free agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick during pregame warm-ups.
The shirts have “#IMWITHKAP” written in bold white lettering on the front.
However, if their shirts said, "IMWITHJESUS" or "SUPPORTURPOLICE", the players would have been fined. It is clear that the leadership of professional football has decided to side full force with the Leftist, Antifa, BLM, anti-America, anti-Trump, anti-Police, anti-Christian, crowd. And the strangest part of the whole thing is, most Leftist do not watch football at all. The only thing this will accomplish is to drive away their base just like ESPN has done and is still doing.
Next on the agenda, the American Flag will be banned in the parking lot of all stadiums. No more flying the flag while you are tailgating. And the rumor is, the NFL are currently trying to book some Antifa mob, or a BLM mob, to do a half-time show.
The vast majority of these wacko groups they have decided to side with don't watch NASCAR and they don't watch football. Oh well, if they want to go down with the ship then more power to them. It doesn't affect me.
It is kind of fun to watch this play out, from afar that is. I wouldn't be involved in any part of the football industry today. It is just going to get more and more crazy, and will absolutely lead to violence eventually.
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Let me state upfront, I do not watch football and haven't for many years. That said, I just don't get it! If I insult my boss on company time, I would be fired. If I insult a customer, I get fired. If I bad mouth the company publicly, I get fired. This is not, or shouldn't be, political. It is a simple employee/employer issue. I know that is naive but, it just astounds me that so many are saying it is a 1st A issue but it isn't! They can say/do what they wish. But, the employer should be able to distribute consequences. Again, I don't get it.
@threadbender Unfortunately, an employer never dumps his/her moneymaker. And the players are the moneymakers.
To have an impact on this "situation", the fans have to affect the employer's bottom line.
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Average <******************>(NFL) player currently makes $2 million per year. Stadiums are filled by white people.
Every $dollar lost from attendance and advertising is almost all profit.
Eventually somebody will need to say uncle. They simply cannot afford to pay players for games not attended or watched.
I vow to keep doing my part.
Mod note: Yesterday you were up against the line with that, and after some debate we left it alone. Today it's over the line, and I suggest you knock it off.
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@threadbender Unfortunately, an employer never dumps his/her moneymaker. And the players are the moneymakers.
To have an impact on this "situation", the fans have to affect the employer's bottom line.
They wear the laundry, anyone can wear the laundry and the fans will cheer for them, as long as they wear the "right" laundry.
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A handful of Miami Dolphins players are wearing black T-shirts supporting free agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick during pregame warm-ups.
The shirts have “#IMWITHKAP” written in bold white lettering on the front.
Karma, Bitches! They lost to the frickin' Jets.
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This is stupid. First, I despise their anti-patriotism. It is vile, selfish, arrogant, and a bunch of other things. But let them make fools of themselves and the rest of us can disrespect it. They are overpaid narcissists who might even be suffering from brain damage from all that football. So hate our country. I'll think you are a jerk and not want you to win your game. The end. Why is this political?
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If the BLM ghetto thugs want to play their separatist and supremacy game, then go ahead. Ignore them, boycott them, ridicule them, shun them. Their supporters can go back to their hood and live in squalor forever, and die when the FedGov runs out of money to foot their welfare.
We've had immigrants of all stripes flooding in here for a generation now, the Jackson-Sharpton-BLM grifter crowd is no longer even a blip on the radar to me anymore. Get with the melting pot or get off the stage.
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To have an impact on this "situation", the fans have to affect the employer's bottom line.
Amen. Besides the obvious - not buying tickets to NFL (or NBA games, but who can afford them?) - we should not buy any of the NFL or team-licensed merchandise. Don't get your child or grandchild that Antonio Brown jersey he's been wanting for Christmas. Don't buy a Patriots ballcap.
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This is stupid. First, I despise their anti-patriotism. It is vile, selfish, arrogant, and a bunch of other things. But let them make fools of themselves and the rest of us can disrespect it. They are overpaid narcissists who might even be suffering from brain damage from all that football. So hate our country. I'll think you are a jerk and not want you to win your game. The end. Why is this political?
I've got a feeling they're about to learn the meaning of 'Shut up and sing'.
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Steelers' Alejandro Villanueva (spelling) came out and stood for the anthem, he served in Afghanistan.
I see in one of the games, they showed maybe how some kids were going to come out at half time; the kneelers certainly are a poor example for the kids.
If 100 players kneeled, that's got to be about half at least. I read one team locked arms and stood. That's a bit better; not sure how to read that.
Texans lock arms during national anthem http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-lock-arms-during-national-anthem-12224656.php (http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-lock-arms-during-national-anthem-12224656.php)
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Texans lock arms during national anthem http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-lock-arms-during-national-anthem-12224656.php (http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-lock-arms-during-national-anthem-12224656.php)
I don't know what to make of that either. While standing is preferable to kneeling, it's difficult to place one's hand on one's heart with arms locked. There's still some disrespect for the flag.
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I saw a photo of one player kneeling during the anthem - with his hand over his heart. Mixed signals!
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I don't know what to make of that either. While standing is preferable to kneeling, it's difficult to place one's hand on one's heart with arms locked. There's still some disrespect for the flag.
Trump: 'Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable'
http://abcnews.go.com/US/nfl-players-blast-trump-kneeling-players-fired/story?id=50037845 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/nfl-players-blast-trump-kneeling-players-fired/story?id=50037845)
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According to Shaun King on Twitter, : A player from the Cowboys just made it clear that they've all gotten the message that taking a knee with put them "on the shit list".
So far my "Boys are the only team to not have displayed any form of protest pre-game so far.
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You want to take a knee?
©Stanislaus Drew 8/24/17
Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. If you don't know where that is, just Google it from the sidelines. Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn. Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience. Then take a knee.
Then, take one at the beach in Normandy where man after American man stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces...the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire.
Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. from Khe San to Saigon...Anywhere will do. Americans died in all those jungles.There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented When they came home, they were protested as well..and spit on for reasons only cowards know.
Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat..Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress...Your number won't be printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but there won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your own.
There's a lot of places to take a knee. Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. They represent the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty.
While you're on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken...but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains...every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest.
No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans...just American men and women...delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us...blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee."
You haven't an inkling what it took to get you where you are...but your "protest" is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is retired...
If you really feel the need to take a knee, come with me to church on Sunday and we'll both kneel before Almighty God. We'll thank him for preserving this country for as long as He has. We'll beg forgiveness for our ingratitude for all He has provided us. We'll appeal to Him for understanding and wisdom. We'll pray for liberty and justice for all...because He is the one who provides those things.
But there will be no protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the brave. It goes like this...
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1032855832
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Trump: 'Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable'
http://abcnews.go.com/US/nfl-players-blast-trump-kneeling-players-fired/story?id=50037845 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/nfl-players-blast-trump-kneeling-players-fired/story?id=50037845)
What to make of that.
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What to make of that.
Ummmm. Trump trying to recover from stepping on his d***?
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This is stupid. First, I despise their anti-patriotism. It is vile, selfish, arrogant, and a bunch of other things. But let them make fools of themselves and the rest of us can disrespect it. They are overpaid narcissists who might even be suffering from brain damage from all that football. So hate our country. I'll think you are a jerk and not want you to win your game. The end. Why is this political?
I've read today that not until President Obama inked a deal with the NFL with MILLIONS of $$$, did the the team members stand on the sideline during the National Anthem. That was in 2009.
Prior to that, they were stretching or doing their football prep.
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The NFL has jumped the shark.
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Average <******************>(NFL) player currently makes $2 million per year. Stadiums are filled by white people.
Every $dollar lost from attendance and advertising is almost all profit.
Eventually somebody will need to say uncle. They simply cannot afford to pay players for games not attended or watched.
I vow to keep doing my part.
Mod note: Yesterday you were up against the line with that, and after some debate we left it alone. Today it's over the line, and I suggest you knock it off.
By censoring my free speech, which is not in anyway disparaging, you move it more in the direction of what I stated.
What I stated is still true.
https://www.google.com/search?q=blacks+in+nfl+by+year&ie=&oe=
2014 NFL 68% black
https://theundefeated.com/features/the-nfls-racial-divide/
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By censoring my free speech, which is not in anyway disparaging, you move it more in the direction of what I stated.
What I stated is still true.
https://www.google.com/search?q=blacks+in+nfl+by+year&ie=&oe=
2014 NFL 68% black
https://theundefeated.com/features/the-nfls-racial-divide/
Why even bring race into it?
Stadiums are filled with people who pay extra taxes to get the thing built and then pay for a ticket to get in to see people who make a lot more than they do play a ball game. I'm sorry, but I don't get that so much, anyway, much less shelling out for OLP NFL merchandise. But, to each their own.
If people want to watch the overpaid insult their country, well, that's up to them.
It's still America. Just don't look for my face in the stands.
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For the record this is my site so you really don't have free speech...
I defended your choice of the N word yesterday thinking it was just a slip not knowing it was part of your vocabulary....I caught a lot of hell for it too..a mistake I won't allow again.
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By censoring my free speech, which is not in anyway disparaging, you move it more in the direction of what I stated.
What I stated is still true.
https://www.google.com/search?q=blacks+in+nfl+by+year&ie=&oe=
2014 NFL 68% black
https://theundefeated.com/features/the-nfls-racial-divide/
Leave it alone @truth_seeker it's not the hill to die on, especially in 2017.
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Ummmm. Trump trying to recover from stepping on his d***?
Again???
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Again???
:laugh:
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Leave it alone @truth_seeker it's not the hill to die on, especially in 2017.
Suggest you MYOGDB! Myst has it covered. *****rollingeyes*****
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Suggest you MYOGDB! Myst has it covered. *****rollingeyes*****
Thank you for the suggestion @DCPatriot
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Thank you for the suggestion @DCPatriot
De nada. ^-^
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I've read today that not until President Obama inked a deal with the NFL with MILLIONS of $$$, did the the team members stand on the sideline during the National Anthem. That was in 2009.
Prior to that, they were stretching or doing their football prep.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2017/09/24/draft-n2385792
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2017/09/24/draft-n2385792
:beer:
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4 p.m.
Meghan Linsey finished singing the national anthem before the Seattle Seahawks game at the Tennessee Titans, and then the runner-up in “The Voice” took a knee as she finished. So did the guitarist accompanying her.
At least 130 players around the NFL sat or knelt during the anthems in the early games. The Seahawks and Titans didn’t come on the field until after Linsey finished singing. A handful of players stood outside the tunnel.
Earlier in Detroit, singer Rico Lavelle dropped to his right knee, bowed his head and raised his right fist wrapped around the microphone while finishing up his rendition of the national anthem before the Lions-Falcons game.
Reading this update, truly chapped my fanny. The nerve!
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Ummmm. Trump trying to recover from stepping on his d***?
Yup.
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I've read today that not until President Obama inked a deal with the NFL with MILLIONS of $$$, did the the team members stand on the sideline during the National Anthem. That was in 2009.
Prior to that, they were stretching or doing their football prep.
Anyone who went to games or can do a youtube search can see that's not true.
It wasn't required then, but most lined up anyway.
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Well, that was fun. All the NFL brouhaha served as a distraction from what, I wonder?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFhborYfWsY
Listen to Brandon Tatum unload on the NFL players... priceless!
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Had to look up who Brandon Tatum was. Thought he was an athlete.
He's right., but I doubt the spoiled brats will listen.
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For the record this is my site so you really don't have free speech...
I defended your choice of the N word yesterday thinking it was just a slip not knowing it was part of your vocabulary....I caught a lot of hell for it too..a mistake I won't allow again.
Makes me wonder about the racists... 100 players took the knee. According to Google there are 1600 players. I saw that 70% of the NFL is black, meaning that probably close to 1000 black players didn't take the knee. Are they "n-words" too?
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Suggest you MYOGDB! Myst has it covered. *****rollingeyes*****
And yet here you are...
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No sure where Tip Sheet got their info...but the games I've watched prior to 2009 the players were standing for the Anthem.
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LIZ COVFEFE MAGA
Standing on the sidelines during the anthem is a rule in the @NFL rulebook. NFL selectively enforces their "rules"!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKiQCCQUMAAXBAi.jpg)
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"Should" is not "must."
Wow, am I getting tired of this subject. Anything else happening in the world?
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OTOH......
32 teams times 40 man roster = 1280 players
< than liberal news outlets could have reported this as :
UP TO 1180 PLAYERS CHOOSE TO NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN UN-PATRIOTIC PROTEST
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I've read today that not until President Obama inked a deal with the NFL with MILLIONS of $$$, did the the team members stand on the sideline during the National Anthem. That was in 2009.
Prior to that, they were stretching or doing their football prep.
Go to any other sporting event, on the other hand, and the participants are pretty much always out for the anthem and invocation (do they even do invocations in the NFL?).
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Anyway, did anyone else notice how quickly everyone forgot to be offended by the name of that football team in Washington (and I don't mean the Seahawks)?
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Anyway, did anyone else notice how quickly everyone forgot to be offended by the name of that football team in Washington (and I don't mean the Seahawks)?
Well it wasn't these guys....
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/files/2013/11/Navajo.jpg&w=1484)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2013/11/25/redskins-honor-members-of-the-navajo-code-talker-association/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2013/11/25/redskins-honor-members-of-the-navajo-code-talker-association/)
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Well it wasn't these guys....
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/files/2013/11/Navajo.jpg&w=1484)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2013/11/25/redskins-honor-members-of-the-navajo-code-talker-association/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2013/11/25/redskins-honor-members-of-the-navajo-code-talker-association/)
Is this pic current?
That's RGIII's #10 in the background on the fan's jersey. (although it's a red jersey and not burgundy)
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Is this pic current?
That's RGIII's #10 in the background on the fan's jersey. (although it's a red jersey and not burgundy)
No fooling fans. It is from 2013 when the team honored the Code Talkers.
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No fooling fans. It is from 2013 when the team honored the Code Talkers.
:laugh:
I was thinking it was the Falcon's stadium...but was too lazy to look up who wore #10.
Would be surprised if any Skins' fans are still wearing it today. :beer:
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Makes me wonder about the racists... 100 players took the knee. According to Google there are 1600 players. I saw that 70% of the NFL is black, meaning that probably close to 1000 black players didn't take the knee. Are they "n-words" too?
Every team was not playing Sunday.
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Anyway, did anyone else notice how quickly everyone forgot to be offended by the name of that football team in Washington (and I don't mean the Seahawks)?
Pretty soon they will be going after the "Washington", because he was a slave owner.
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OTOH......
32 teams times 40 man roster = 1280 players
< than liberal news outlets could have reported this as :
UP TO 1180 PLAYERS CHOOSE TO NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN UN-PATRIOTIC PROTEST
The headline now says over 200. It was 100 originally, but not all games had been played.
The article says "The league has 1,696 players on active rosters."
Also, so far as I could tell, they were referring to only those who knelt. IMO, locking arms or doing anything but acting respectfully like a proper American is unpatriotic.
What disgusts me is why if they're pickled off at the president they feel the need to disrespect the nation to get their point across. Would it kill them to save their emotions for the post game show, tweeter, etc? A-holes.
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Some teams chose instead of a public protest (kneeling or sitting) to stay in the locker room until after the anthem, which is what the Seahawks, Titans, Steelers, and some other teams did Sunday. I think I would prefer the locker room option vs. the pathetic public protest. What our mom's called the "if you cant say anything nice don't say anything at all" option.
Up until 2009 the teams remained in the locker room until the anthem. Maybe they should just return to that and make it required across the NFL. That would at least end this silliness.
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Up until 2009 the teams players remained in had the option of remaining in the locker room until [after] the anthem.
@NavyCanDo
If you look at footage of games from back then, you'll see players standing respectfully on the sidelines. Those of us who attended games can recall that, too.
For example, skip ahead to 1:02 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi-cuPKeEwg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi-cuPKeEwg
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...Up until 2009 the teams remained in the locker room until the anthem. Maybe they should just return to that and make it required across the NFL. That would at least end this silliness.
I don't believe that is true. Here is a video from 2008 showing players on the field during the anthem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0kvlJQQRI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0kvlJQQRI)
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2006 again (Skip to 0:27):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvO1TpVlbw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvO1TpVlbw8
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Up until 2009 the teams remained in the locker room until the anthem. Maybe they should just return to that and make it required across the NFL. That would at least end this silliness.
No they didn't. I can't tell you how many NFL games I've watched where they were on the sidelines for the anthem. They had to be because they immediately got ready for kickoff.
The NFL tightly scripts these games and fines teams if certain things don't happen within a certain amount of time.
At one point the fine for an NFL team was $17K per second a half time show ran over during a game.
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I don't believe that is true. Here is a video from 2008 showing players on the field during the anthem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0kvlJQQRI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0kvlJQQRI)
Sounds like I passed on fake news seen on Facebook. You guys are corrrect, players were on the field prior to 2009.
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Sounds like I passed on fake news seen on Facebook. You guys are corrrect, players were on the field prior to 2009.
No worries...happens to all of us at some point.