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Title: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: 240B on September 05, 2017, 03:21:28 pm

The Washington Times
By Andrea Noble and Stephen Dinan
Tuesday, September 5, 2017


Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Tuesday that an Obama-era program granting young adult illegal immigrants tentative legal status in the United States is illegal and will be phased out over the course of six months.


The Trump administration opted to phase out the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program to give Congress time to pass legislation that could offer a permanent solution for young illegal immigrants, who were brought to the U.S. as children and have grown up here.


“The executive branch, through DACA, deliberately sought to achieve what the legislative branch specifically refused to authorize on multiple occasions,” Mr. Sessions said Tuesday at the Justice Department. “Such an open ended circumvention of immigration laws was an unconstitutional exercise of authority by the Executive Branch.”


Mr. Sessions said Department of Homeland Security Acting Secretary Elaine Duke opted recessed the program and to wind down the program over a six month period.


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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/5/trump-phase-out-dreamers-program/
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: skeeter on September 05, 2017, 03:28:31 pm
Sessions gave a very good account of his decision.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: 240B on September 05, 2017, 03:37:16 pm
The worst part is yet to come. Obama has vowed to post a strongly worded post on Facebook!
So, we all have to hold our breath for that!


*yawn*
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: austingirl on September 05, 2017, 03:38:47 pm
DACA, DACA, DACA dominated the news all weekend. I had to turn the sound down with Tom Perez out shrieking his opposition this morning.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Oceander on September 05, 2017, 03:38:47 pm
This is one of the most adult actions to come out of the Trump administration, bar none.  It stops an arguably unconstitutional executive action but gives Congress plenty of time to protect the people the executive order was supposed to protect. 

Congratulations, Mr. Trump, on letting the adults have a say in something. 
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: 240B on September 05, 2017, 03:57:28 pm
Congratulations, Mr. Trump, on letting the adults have a say in something.


I'm not convinced that there are any real 'adults' in Washington D.C. They all tend to behave like petty children.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 05, 2017, 04:00:31 pm
This is one of the most adult actions to come out of the Trump administration, bar none.  It stops an arguably unconstitutional executive action but gives Congress plenty of time to protect the people the executive order was supposed to protect. 

Congratulations, Mr. Trump, on letting the adults have a say in something.

Pretty smart move. Ball is now in Congress' court. If they do nothing, then all the media sob stories will be on them.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: austingirl on September 05, 2017, 07:00:50 pm
"Spontaneous: walk outs in Denver and Phoenix (maybe more) as those without critical thinking skills demonstrate why they are dimocraps.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: kidd on September 05, 2017, 07:06:40 pm
DACA was an illegal act.

It was an extreme Executive branch over-reach.
It nullified existing law that was passed by Congress.
But DACA was not passed by Congress. Dictator Obama put it into action without any Legislative approval.
Obama exceeded his authority.

As for illegal immigrants who are "children" (under the age of 38), they were not going to be deported in the next six months anyway. There is always room for compassion and patience, and Trump has made it clear that removal of illegal immigrant gang members is a priority anyway.

DACA should have been declared illegal and immediately eliminated without a grace period.
Now Trump has put undue pressure on Congressional Republicans - who will lose public support no matter how they support this junk.

A comprehensive approach to illegal immigration is needed (and was promised by Trump).
Wall, anchor babies, returning illegal immigrants to their country of origin ... it all needs coordination

Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: kidd on September 05, 2017, 07:41:12 pm
Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA) released the following statement in response to the Trump Administration's decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program:

“When President Obama unilaterally created DACA, he unlawfully overstepped his executive authority and only put a temporary band-aid on a problem which prolonged uncertainty for many children brought here through no fault of their own. The Administration’s decision today puts the onus on Congress to address this challenge in the right way: for the long-haul, with respect for our nation’s laws, a desire to enhance the integrity of our borders, and a sense of compassion for those who were brought here in their childhood years ago and wish to stay as productive members of our communities. I’m eager to get to work on a permanent fix and call on Democrats and Republicans alike to immediately put political posturing aside and let this be a catalyst to achieve long-overdue reforms in this important area of concern.”
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 02:24:06 am
Phase it out?  He tweeted that he wants it legalized.

Does anybody really think Trump wants an end to DACA?  He met with "Dreamers" in 2013 and told them their arguments convinced him.

It's another dramatic Trump announcement followed by backpedaling.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Wingnut on September 06, 2017, 02:26:36 am
Phase it out?  He tweeted that he wants it legalized.

Does anybody really think Trump wants an end to DACA?  He met with "Dreamers" in 2013 and told them their arguments convinced him.

It's another dramatic Trump announcement followed by backpedaling.

You are talking shit.   Let it go.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 02:30:48 am
You are talking shit.   Let it go.

@Wingnut

The hell I will.  If you only want to hear fan noise, pass me by.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Wingnut on September 06, 2017, 02:32:07 am
@Wingnut

The hell I will.  If you only want to hear fan noise, pass me by.

When you are talking like a dumb ass I will call you on it.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 02:34:07 am
When you are talking like a dumb ass I will call you on it.


@Wingnut

If that ever happens, fine.  I'm still waiting.

Here's your pompoms.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Wingnut on September 06, 2017, 02:35:52 am


@Wingnut

If that ever happens, fine.  I'm still waiting.

Here's your pompoms.

Send them to Congress.  The ball is in their court.   
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: mystery-ak on September 06, 2017, 02:47:47 am

Normally I wait for a post report but since no one is filing one I'll interject here to say enough already Wings.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 02:48:37 am
Send them to Congress.  The ball is in their court.

Right, and let them know you're bluffing if they punt.  First rule of the art of the deal!

Face it, this is the immigration version of the AHCA.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 02:51:39 am
Come on Wings....enough

@mystery-ak, that's okay.  I can take his crusty butt on any day.  Compared to my father in law, Wingy's a Pretty Pony.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 02:53:11 am
Normally I wait for a post report but since no one is filing one I'll interject here to say enough already Wings.

Crap, I was just warming up...
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: mystery-ak on September 06, 2017, 02:53:39 am
@mystery-ak, that's okay.  I can take his crusty butt on any day.  Compared to my father in law, Wingy's a Pretty Pony.

LOL...okie dokie.....she springed you Wings...
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 02:54:29 am
LOL...okie dokie.....she springed you Wings...

Lol
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: RoosGirl on September 06, 2017, 02:56:53 am
The worst part is yet to come. Obama has vowed to post a strongly worded post on Facebook!
So, we all have to hold our breath for that!


*yawn*

Then there will be another TrumpTwitterTirade for us to point at and laugh.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 03:00:05 am
Then there will be another TrumpTwitterTirade for us to point at and laugh.

@RoosGirl

What a stupid time to be alive...
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: RoosGirl on September 06, 2017, 03:02:11 am
@RoosGirl

What a stupid time to be alive...

I've always thought of myself as just being of average intelligence.  There is the small consolation that I'm finding out I was wrong about that and there are a whole bunch of people dumber than I am.  Even people who have (supposedly) made a lot more money than I have.

@CatherineofAragon
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Elderberry on September 06, 2017, 03:05:13 am
@RoosGirl

What a stupid time to be alive...

Life's too short. Forget him. Do what you like!
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 03:11:07 am
I've always thought of myself as just being of average intelligence.  There is the small consolation that I'm finding out I was wrong about that and there are a whole bunch of people dumber than I am.  Even people who have (supposedly) made a lot more money than I have.

@CatherineofAragon

@RoosGirl

Probably one of the most shocking lessons I ever learned was that some on our side could fall for the same things that sucker Dem voters in.

I guess it was arrogance to think otherwise, but...
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Wingnut on September 06, 2017, 03:12:04 am
LOL...okie dokie.....she springed you Wings...

*Yawn*
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 03:14:21 am
Life's too short. Forget him. Do what you like!

@Elderberry

Who, Trump?  Can't forget someone who isn't in your head to begin with.  I'm just posting a bit.   ^-^
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 03:17:28 am
*Yawn*

@Wingnut



You can thank me some other time, after your momma teaches you some manners.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Wingnut on September 06, 2017, 03:19:12 am
@Wingnut



You can thank me some other time, after your momma teaches you some manners.

You need a good spanking sometimes.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Elderberry on September 06, 2017, 03:19:43 am
@Elderberry

Who, Trump?  Can't forget someone who isn't in your head to begin with.  I'm just posting a bit.   ^-^

That's the spirit I want to see 0052
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 03:35:03 am
That's the spirit I want to see 0052

@Elderberry

I have this uncomfortable feeling you're on the verge of calling me "princess", and it's squicking me out.
Title: Re: Trump to phase out Dreamers program
Post by: Silver Pines on September 06, 2017, 03:37:33 am
You need a good spanking sometimes.

@Wingnut

You're outta luck, aren't ya.